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Title: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 24 Sep 2015, 13:43
Ok this is the rumpus room but if this is TOO damn stupid just delete it! :D But when an update/install or whatever has that progressbar and it says 100% complete but you still must wait. That's what really grinds my gears! (Yeah family guy reference there) Maybe I should keep this thread to have a new grind every week!!!! Anyone with me? Check in for next weeks complaints!!!! :D
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 24 Sep 2015, 14:23
Or where it gets to 90% really fast then crawls to the end! It should be a consistent speed throughout! And the "time left" always fluctuates or is completely wrong!
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: Mandle on 24 Sep 2015, 15:19
And the "time left" always fluctuates or is completely wrong!

I always picture a talk-show host saying:

"Do we have time for the clip before the commercial break? We do? Oh wait, my producer is telling me we don't. (CLIP STARTS) Well it looks like we do...(CLIP GETS YANKED)...Apparently we don't so we'll see you back here right after these wor...(COMMERCIAL BREAK STARTS)"
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: Mouth for war on 24 Sep 2015, 16:32
Yeah! I hate being lied to! if it is 100% done so be done, don't be playing with my feelings like that!!!! How can I be sure of anything in life if I can't trust an installer/updater progressbar? :D
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: AnasAbdin on 24 Sep 2015, 17:17
Well if it's any compensation, the 5yo in me still laughs at the 69% (laugh)
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: Mouth for war on 24 Sep 2015, 17:51
It IS a little consolation but still! haha :D
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: ManicMatt on 25 Sep 2015, 22:20
This thread name needs to be changed to "what grinds your gears?"

How about status downloadinh bars that say "5 hours left" and keeps changing its mind. Uh.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 13 Nov 2015, 22:40
I got a new one...People who drives away so god damn slow from a red light when it turns green, resulting in me having to stop for another red light. That seriously pisses me off more than old people who takes forever to finish shopping in the food store when they dig after money for the clerk and in the middle of it must tell a boring, f*****g story about their dirty mutt(often a poodle) who keeps barking outside thinking it's a badass rabid mutant even though you could easily whack it to the moon with a rolled up newspaper!!!! Yeah that's what grinds my gears this evening :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: LindaBelle on 06 Jan 2016, 13:08
Let the developers see how they should show the loading line! :) :=
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on 06 Jan 2016, 16:12
People don't jumping out of my way whenever I'm driving on the footpath at high speeds, resulting in me seriously injuring and/or killing them!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stromvin on 06 Jan 2016, 17:01
well for installations and updates time is indeed relative. To a Point where it goes backwards. I called this Windows time once, until i discovered steam...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 15 Jan 2016, 14:03
In Pixar's "Cars" movies...

WHY DO THE CARS HAVE DOORS?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 15 Jan 2016, 14:45
I enjoyed the The Force Awakens (having finally got to see it), but... big finale is to destroy a weapon inside what looks like a Death Star (albeit a bigger version) - AGAIN?!?!?  I mean, really?  Could they not have thought of something else?

There was a lot I liked about the movie, but it did all just feel a little too derivative.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 15 Jan 2016, 15:15
I enjoyed the The Force Awakens (having finally got to see it), but... big finale is to destroy a weapon inside what looks like a Death Star (albeit a bigger version) - AGAIN?!?!?  I mean, really?  Could they not have thought of something else?

There was a lot I liked about the movie, but it did all just feel a little too derivative.

SPOILERS:
Yeah, that was annoying...But I felt it was more a subplot in a movie that had 3-4 other plots going on at the same time...All of which I greatly enjoyed so I could overlook the obvious "HEY WE ARE STAR WARS AGAIN!!! NOT THAT OTHER SHITE THAT YOU GOT BORED BY IN THE LAST THREE MOVIES!" callout to the fans...

(Let's not even mention the fact that they were attacking a HUGE target like an acre wide over and over to detonate the thing...There wasn't even the suspense of the "impossible shot" that needed a pilot wielding the force to pull it off...Maybe next time just a big red button saying "DO NOT PUSH THE BUTTON!!!"?! One little "easter egg"? I did notice during the attack was that they call in "Red 4 & Red 6" like as if "Red 5" is a revered and retired number kinda like "42" in American baseball...Nice touch I thought...)

I thought they should have gone a step further and have had the attack FAIL (the "target" was a decoy) and the "Death Star" fully charge and wipe out the rebels' outpost...

And screw General Organa...She should have known better to get herself in the same situation twice and expect the same happy outcome...

So...the next movie would be just the last few remaining Jedi, without any rebel support, trying to bring down the entire "First Order" ...cough..."Empire"....all on their own...

Now...wouldn't THAT be a much more exciting story?!

I honestly felt NOTHING when that thing blew up...BUT the rest of the movie was awesome!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 15 Jan 2016, 17:39
The whole thing just seemed like an homage to the original trilogy, almost every scene! Still very enjoyable though.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 19 Jan 2016, 08:04
I enjoyed the The Force Awakens (having finally got to see it), but... big finale is to destroy a weapon inside what looks like a Death Star (albeit a bigger version) - AGAIN?!?!?  I mean, really?  Could they not have thought of something else?

There was a lot I liked about the movie, but it did all just feel a little too derivative.

SPOILERS:
Yeah, that was annoying...But I felt it was more a subplot in a movie that had 3-4 other plots going on at the same time...All of which I greatly enjoyed so I could overlook the obvious "HEY WE ARE STAR WARS AGAIN!!! NOT THAT OTHER SHITE THAT YOU GOT BORED BY IN THE LAST THREE MOVIES!" callout to the fans...

(Let's not even mention the fact that they were attacking a HUGE target like an acre wide over and over to detonate the thing...There wasn't even the suspense of the "impossible shot" that needed a pilot wielding the force to pull it off...Maybe next time just a big red button saying "DO NOT PUSH THE BUTTON!!!"?! One little "easter egg"? I did notice during the attack was that they call in "Red 4 & Red 6" like as if "Red 5" is a revered and retired number kinda like "42" in American baseball...Nice touch I thought...)

I thought they should have gone a step further and have had the attack FAIL (the "target" was a decoy) and the "Death Star" fully charge and wipe out the rebels' outpost...

And screw General Organa...She should have known better to get herself in the same situation twice and expect the same happy outcome...

So...the next movie would be just the last few remaining Jedi, without any rebel support, trying to bring down the entire "First Order" ...cough..."Empire"....all on their own...

Now...wouldn't THAT be a much more exciting story?!

I honestly felt NOTHING when that thing blew up...BUT the rest of the movie was awesome!
Don't you mean only an acre wide. I mean that thing was the size of a planet with it's own atmosphere and they destroyed it with a few shots from a couple of TIE fighters aiming at... what exactly?

That said, I thought the film was cracking. I can't call myself a Star Wars fan to be honest but EpVII certainly satisfied my film going needs.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 19 Jan 2016, 18:44
SPOILERS:
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Don't you mean only an acre wide. I mean that thing was the size of a planet with it's own atmosphere and they destroyed it with a few shots from a couple of TIE fighters aiming at... what exactly?
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I know I was way too concentrated in making sure my bladder didn't explode (needed to visit the toilet for about the last hour of the movie (roll) )... but wasn't that what Han and Chewie were doing? Placing explosives to blow the "core"(?)??? Wasn't that the blew the planet, not the tie-fighters?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 20 Jan 2016, 17:46
Over the last few years I've noticed in every film or TV show, and I mean EVERY SINGLE BLOODY ONE! Whenever a character hits his head or an explosion occurs, all sound becomes muddy and they play a high pitched ringing sound. It makes me cringe and cover my ears, can't stand it!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 21 Jan 2016, 10:35
One thing that really grinds my gears is...you are in the shop and have a sweet tooth like out of this world...you start taking your favourites from the "take whatever you want then we wheigh and you pay"-section. There is one type of candy that co sists of puffed rice covered in chocolate....so i scoop up a lot...just to realise when i come home....it's god damn chocolate covered raisins. Raisins...the retarded,inbred cousin of the tasty grape. How the hell can you make something so disgusting from a grape?!?! Anyway...that ruins my day completely and that people, is what grinds my gears!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Erenan on 22 Jan 2016, 18:02
It grinds my gears when people dislike raisins.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on 23 Jan 2016, 02:35
It grinds my gears when people dislike people disliking raisins.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 26 Jan 2016, 10:02
+1 selmiak :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 26 Jan 2016, 10:34
When once great series like Star Wars and Star Trek are made into action films so that the bubblegum that sticks to your shoe can follow along.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 26 Jan 2016, 11:01
Bill
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 31 Jan 2016, 11:48
How about when you pay for a DVD or cinema ticket, then they force you to watch a video on how piracy is evil and supports terrorism. I'm obviously not supporting piracy when I've PAID for the pissing thing!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: miguel on 31 Jan 2016, 12:00
People that do not close doors after they leave a room when they had to open it to get in.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: JamesGoblin on 03 Feb 2016, 05:05
Games without Goblins race really grind my gears.

For Jebus sake, this is 21st century!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 04 Feb 2016, 06:20
How about when you pay for a DVD or cinema ticket, then they force you to watch a video on how piracy is evil and supports terrorism. I'm obviously not supporting piracy when I've PAID for the pissing thing!

Well, to be fair: You could potentially be watching a pirated copy of the DVD including the "No piracy" video, and theoretically the video could make you feel guilty and you might stop watching...

What I really HATE on DVDs that I have bought is the ones that will not let me skip the ads for other movies at the start and go straight to the menu. I can understand if it's a rental, but if I shelled out the money to buy the damn thing why should I be forced to watch the ads?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 04 Feb 2016, 09:35
Well, to be fair: You could potentially be watching a pirated copy of the DVD including the "No piracy" video, and theoretically the video could make you feel guilty and you might stop watching...

No ripper would leave that video in.

I really hate DRM on games for the same reason: It treats the customer like a criminal, and most of the time ensures that the pirate gets a better product.

Steam games for instance always need to be updated after installation, if you're lucky enough to be able to even install the game from the disc you bought and not have to download the whole thing. Where I live the download for the forced updates have sometimes cost me more than the game did.

GTAV is the worst offender here. Every time I've wanted to drop in and play for a bit there was at least a 500MB forced update (sometimes two), which more often than not was a multiplayer map I would never see. You can't even play it without an internet connection, for no good reason. It finally screwed me over enough that I decided to install the pirated version, and you know what? I've been having a blast in GTAV lately.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 06 Mar 2016, 22:26
This didn't grind my gears as much as gave me an irritated chuckle:

From today's news:

Quote
The former President first announced last August that a deadly form of skin cancer, melanoma, which was first found in his liver, had spread to his brain. Carter initially said he thought he had only weeks to live when he first learned of the diagnosis. He left his fate "in the hands of God, whom I worship."

Carter was treated via surgery, radiation and a relatively new form of immunotherapy.

Somebody call the pope! IT'S A MIRACLE OF DIVINE INTERVENTION!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 09 Mar 2016, 10:08
It grinds my gears when movies end with the hero, being a hero, tries to save the villain, only for the villain to try to back-stab the hero immediately after so that the hero is forced to kill the villain anyway, rendering the whole scene pointless. So, instead of showing how good and compassionate the hero is, the writers just ended up with the moral of the story that you shouldn't forgive your enemies, and that showing any kind of mercy is a stupid thing to do that will only backfire. (wtf)

And all those writers apparently thought that this was a way better and more original end than I don't know, have the hero defeat the bad guy in a fair fight? The hero openly admitting that the bad guy is evil and must be put down? Have the villain genuinely repent?
No, the antagonist pulling a gun on his rescuer while he's being rescued is way, way more clever!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 09 Mar 2016, 17:01
It grinds my gears when movies end with the hero, being a hero, tries to save the villain, only for the villain to try to back-stab the hero immediately after

Toy Story 3 pulled it off though
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 09 Mar 2016, 17:43
Toy Story 3 pulled it off though
Yes, a few movies did manage to do this in a good way that didn't feel like an obvious cliché. I think tropes are to movies what pig-guts are to hot dogs, and integral part for the structure, but you shouldn't constantly remind the consumer of their presence.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 24 Jul 2016, 12:12
When you're out driving. Someone comes up behind you and stays there. Just a few inches/centimeters behind you so if you suddenly had to stop, you'd probably get a free whiplash as well. You slow down so they can drive past you but nooo. They also slow down instead.. Oooohhhhh how it grinds my gears :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 24 Jul 2016, 12:21
It's called tailgating and they are doing it on purpose. Usually accompanied by a german luxury car or an suv. Since everything these people do in their lives is about seeking attention, the best thing you can do is to ignore them. This little man BS is pretty much the extent of their abilities.

I really hate it when I microwave something for many minutes, have to wait a minute for the plate to cool down enough to touch it, I sit down to eat and get a mouthful of cold food.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 24 Jul 2016, 13:27
I really hate it when I microwave something for many minutes, have to wait a minute for the plate to cool down enough to touch it, I sit down to eat and get a mouthful of cold food.

That's because: You are suppose to use a MW plate and mix/move your food half way. (roll)

And on this subject, I really hate it when ppl can't operate or understand how a MW works!
I have colleagues that will put their food on top of mine because "we can just warm it at the same time!" Ack! We can't! Others can't figure out how to turn it on "How do I start this?"... Open the MW when it's running, realizing it's occupied and then either remove my food out (and when I complain say "Oh, but it wasn't running!" Yes it was!) or just close the door again, but not press the start button so it'll continue warming my food. And then we have one with just a round button to set the timer... some just get them rotate it all the way round (60 minutes), out they're food in... take it out after a minute or two... close the door and let the thing work the next 58 minutes empty. 8-0 I swear they going to burn the house down one day!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 24 Jul 2016, 13:59
That microwave thing yeah!!! The tailgaiting...well it has usually been older people doing it actually...not those who think they are cool and funny. No matter who, it still is a major annoyance :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 24 Jul 2016, 14:09
People who step of the escalator and then decide to stand still, despite the fact there is a MOVING STAIRCASE FULL OF PEOPLE COMING UP BEHING YOU, OLD FARTS!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 25 Jul 2016, 10:27
When you're about to cross the road and see a car coming. So you wait for them to pass but they instead take a turn, and you're just cursing to yourself "use your bloody indicators! They're for pedestrians too you idiot!". >:(
And then of course the car straight behind them doesn't want to turn, so you have to wait a bit longer for that car to pass as well. And then there's another car. And another.
In short, I wish there were traffic lights at that crossroads.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 25 Jul 2016, 15:47
The media is grinding my gears at the moment with all the panic-mongering (read: click-baiting) over how Pokemon GO is making the streets so unsafe for everyone.

Even my wife/friends are tsk-tsking when they hear each new incident, and they just roll their eyes when I point out that people were ALWAYS looking at their phones when walking/driving: It's just that incidents/accidents involving these mundane phone abuses are not newsworthy unless the person happened to be playing Pokemon GO.

And their eyes glaze over when I say "Hey, at least Pokemon GO makes them look around at their environment a bit...Unlike Candy Crush/Angry Birds/etc etc..."

Phew...I feel so much better now with that off my chest!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: SinSin on 29 Jul 2016, 17:23
My children when they don't listen for the 1000000th time Grind my gears !!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 31 Jul 2016, 15:20
My children when they don't listen for the 1000000th time Grind my gears !!

I just got back from a 5 day summer camp with kids and I soooooo hear your gear grinding syncing with mine...

My conclusion:

The current exchange rate between actual personal experience and adult-given advice is exactly at a 1 to 1000000 ratio for all new humans on planet Earth...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 03 Aug 2016, 16:05
It grinds my gears when I promise myself I will work on game dev of unfinished projects during my summer break and then I download Civ 2 for the 20th time and play it constantly for 3 days...

It really is the smack addiction...Once you've mainlined Civ 2 there is no going back...It waits for years, like a stealthy ninja monkey on your back, and then it strikes again!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on 03 Aug 2016, 20:46
Civ is such a timesink! And there is a civ6 coming out in october, so you're safe until then... somehow...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 04 Aug 2016, 00:58
Civ is such a timesink! And there is a civ6 coming out in october, so you're safe until then... somehow...

I've tried Civ 3 & 4 but, even though they looked better, I always found the gameplay of 2 to be much better. It just seems they were adding stuff that made the game more complicated but didn't really add anything much of worth to the gameplay (like those stupid leaders and armies...urgh)... So yeah, I've always gone back to 2.

I will be interested to take a look at 6 though...see where they've gone with it...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 04 Aug 2016, 10:30
Civ is such a timesink! And there is a civ6 coming out in october, so you're safe until then... somehow...
Wait, another one already? 8-0
Didn't they release civ5 only a few years ago?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 04 Aug 2016, 10:39
Ohh Mandle...Mandle............Mandle. That is a serious offense!!!! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on 12 Aug 2016, 18:21
Here's a petty pet peeve: "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" is fine as a general expression of fed-up-ness, but it's wrong as a quote from the movie Network. It should be "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Andail on 12 Aug 2016, 19:25
While Civ 2 is arguably the instalment I've spent the most time on, it did have some weaknesses that annoyed me, for instance how so many other civs would constantly be angry with you and gang up on you as soon as you grew somewhat powerful (while they treated rivalling computer civs with utter respect when they grew bigger).

It's extremely hard designing a good A.I for games like Civ, because you have to kind of compensate for the player being able to constantly save and load. That's why they're given rule-changing advantages (like how they can suddenly produce 15 tanks the round after you declare, when previously they had none). For this reason, it'd be better not to give the player any savegames at all; then they'd be forced to play carefully and think through all diplomatic actions.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 12 Aug 2016, 19:41
Oh oh people who say should of or would of p####s me off big time. SHOULD HAVE and WOULD HAVE....god damn it :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: straydogstrut on 12 Aug 2016, 20:35
People who step of the escalator and then decide to stand still, despite the fact there is a MOVING STAIRCASE FULL OF PEOPLE COMING UP BEHING YOU, OLD FARTS!
That's why in London you stand on the right, walk on the left. I thought it was silly when I first moved here; now I realise it's such a time saver.

What grinds my gears is when people use the extra s after an apostrophe on words ending in s when showing possession. I know there's more than one opinion on its use, including whether to use it after only common nouns or proper nouns, so some of you will disagree with me, but when your primary school teacher crosses out your entire homework for using apostrophes everywhere that leaves a mark..

For me it will always be Bridget Jones' Diary
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on 12 Aug 2016, 23:42
People who step of the escalator and then decide to stand still, despite the fact there is a MOVING STAIRCASE FULL OF PEOPLE COMING UP BEHING YOU, OLD FARTS!
That's why in London you stand on the right, walk on the left. I thought it was silly when I first moved here; now I realise it's such a time saver.

What grinds my gears is when people use the extra s after an apostrophe on words ending in s when showing possession. I know there's more than one opinion on its use, including whether to use it after only common nouns or proper nouns, so some of you will disagree with me, but when your primary school teacher crosses out your entire homework for using apostrophes everywhere that leaves a mark..
For me it will always be Bridget Jones' Diary

Bridget Jones's Diary
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on 13 Aug 2016, 06:01

Bridget Jones's Diary


Bridget Jones's's Diary
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 13 Aug 2016, 11:18
Bridget Jones's's Diary

Bridget Jones's's's Diary
Ok, this is starting to sound a bit like someone with a lisp now.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on 13 Aug 2016, 13:03
Bridget Jones's's Diary

Bridget Jones's's's Diary
Ok, this is starting to sound a bit like someone with a lisp now.

Bridget Jones's's's Diary's Secrets
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 14 Aug 2016, 17:26
It really annoys me that whenever someone complains about something, someone sooner or later will say
"And what about the starving children in Africa?", or something similar.

Say a restaurant serves you an under-cooked, inedible meal and expect you to pay for it.
"The starving children in Africa would be very happy for that food, you know."

Your favorite TV-show or movie gets replaced by an awful reboot?
Why nag about that when there are starving children in Africa?

You can barely survive on your wage and are struggling to make ends meet?
It's still more than the kids starving to death in Africa have.

If you actually ask these people to actually donate something to charity, or even just name one country in Africa however, it's not really that important or urgent anymore. (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 15 Aug 2016, 02:28
Blondbraid...

Don't you know that other kids are starving in Japan?

:-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on 15 Aug 2016, 16:37
A personal favorite of mine was a friend's father that (loosely translated) used to say:

"Shame on you! Meanwhile there are children in Africa that go to bed barefoot"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 15 Aug 2016, 17:21
Blondbraid...

Don't you know that other kids are starving in Japan?

:-D
A personal favorite of mine was a friend's father that (loosely translated) used to say:

"Shame on you! Meanwhile there are children in Africa that go to bed barefoot"
Yeah, the "Others have it worse" argument is an old one, and it isn't limited to African kids. Some old people also invoke the "You don't understand how much worse it was when I was your age!" card.

However, I once saw a pretty hilarious rebuttal to that:

Kid: I don't like this bread!
Grumpy old person: When I was your age, I would have been happy to get such bread.
Kid: This bread was probably fresh back then.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 15 Aug 2016, 17:30
Some old people also invoke the "You don't understand how much worse it was when I was your age!" card.

That reminds me of something that grinds my gears. Everyone thinks that everyone older than them is dumber because they're old and aren't in touch with what's new, and everyone thinks that everyone younger than them is dumb, because they're young and never experienced these things that you take for granted, back when they were new.
And as a result, we've got everyone saying how things were better in their day, and perpetuating myths that our ancestors were dumb for thinking the world was flat.

People who are younger than you aren't dumb. People who are older than you aren't dumb. You aren't dumb. Things just change!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on 15 Aug 2016, 19:12
"Shame on you! Meanwhile there are children in Africa that go to bed barefoot"
Yeah, the "Others have it worse" argument is an old one, and it isn't limited to African kids. Some old people also invoke the "You don't understand how much worse it was when I was your age!" card.

The thing about this is that most people go to bed barefoot, but it does look like a classic "you don't know how good you have it" phrase.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 15 Aug 2016, 21:21
I give to Save the Children every month, does that mean I'm allowed to use the Africa line? :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 16 Aug 2016, 01:25
Blondbraid...

Don't you know that other kids are starving in Japan?

:-D

Actually...I was just quoting Weird Al...

I guess I should have added "Eat It!"...

(Selfie-quote FTW!)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 17 Aug 2016, 16:07
Along the same lines, the whole 'First world problems' thing is starting to get old.
It was funny when it was just a meme and a way of reminding ourselves to maybe not take certain problems so seriously when we should be thankful for our privileges. But now you can't express any kind of frustration without someone going 'first world problems, first world problems'

What's worse is that we now say it ourselves, almost apologetically. "Grrr, the internet's packed in and I can't watch Better Call Saul... I know, first world problems and all that, silly me, ha ha"

No. Don't apologise. You worked hard to afford your broadband and Netflix. Damn right you should be able to say "grrr" when you can't watch Better Call Saul.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 17 Aug 2016, 17:16
"First world problems"? That's definitely a first for me.... always heard of "third world problems" myself... (roll)(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on 17 Aug 2016, 23:46
Along the same lines, the whole 'First world problems' thing is starting to get old.

Annoyed at Internet meme. #FWP
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 17 Aug 2016, 23:59
Annoyed at Internet meme. #FWP

(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 18 Aug 2016, 10:54
Now that I think about it, isn't everything on this thread a first world problem?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 19 Aug 2016, 13:20
Yeah a first world problem is still a problem god damn it :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 19 Aug 2016, 15:21
EXTREME CONTENT WARNING:
I so hate it when I have to walk barefoot from the dumped porta-potty where I live in the garbage mountains of my island home, while stepping on rusty hypodermic needles, just to get a bucket of water for myself and my six AIDS-orphaned siblings, only to find out weeks later that the water was infected with The Fiery Serpent, and now I have to wind the worms out of the skin ulcers on my baby sister for weeks on end around a little stick...

Yeah, yeah, I know: Third World Problems right?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 19 Aug 2016, 17:16
I hate it when people act childish and start deleting their posts! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on 19 Aug 2016, 19:08
I hate it when people act childish and start deleting their posts! >:(

It grinds my gears (and makes me quite sad) when age forgets how youth thinks!
(http://i.imgur.com/GMv8dQ4.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 19 Aug 2016, 20:38
Are you implying I'm old? 8-0

Deleting ones post is like a 3 year old making a fit or a child saying "if I can't have that, so can't you!" (my 4 year old says it all the time!). So yeah, it's childish act.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Amélie on 22 Aug 2016, 00:23
[ :( ]
[tramples on LEGO sets (https://s10.postimg.io/7uutni3rd/amy_vales2.png)]
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 22 Aug 2016, 18:53
LOL (laugh) (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 24 Aug 2016, 14:53
IT GRINDS MY GEARS WHEN:

I go back to try and complete an AGS project from months ago and I fix all the problems, only to break everything, and then I have to revert to an earlier version where things worked pretty much, and then have to remember how I "fixed" everything, and then I break several things, and then...

I realise that all my gear grinding is totally my own fault for not being more organised in the first place...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 24 Aug 2016, 14:57
I hate it when I'm really close to the completion of a big project, really REALLY REALLY close, almost there, close enough to touch it, and then somehow... I'm not quite as nearly there as I thought I was. >:( 8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 24 Aug 2016, 16:57
I hate it when I'm really close to the completion of a big project, really REALLY REALLY close, almost there, close enough to touch it, and then somehow... I'm not quite as nearly there as I thought I was. >:( 8-0

+1 I feel your pain. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 24 Aug 2016, 18:48
IT GRINDS MY GEARS WHEN:

I go back to try and complete an AGS project from months ago and I fix all the problems, only to break everything, and then I have to revert to an earlier version where things worked pretty much, and then have to remember how I "fixed" everything, and then I break several things, and then...

I realise that all my gear grinding is totally my own fault for not being more organised in the first place...
Wow, I've definitely been there.
Thankfully I've got a good memory, and can usually recall what I fixed and how I fixed everything. But there's always that niggling doubt in the back of my mind that I've forgotten something, and there's a rare bug just lurking about.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on 24 Aug 2016, 19:10
IT GRINDS MY GEARS WHEN:

I go back to try and complete an AGS project from months ago and I fix all the problems, only to break everything, and then I have to revert to an earlier version where things worked pretty much, and then have to remember how I "fixed" everything, and then I break several things, and then...

I realise that all my gear grinding is totally my own fault for not being more organised in the first place...

This is why you should always comment. Whatever you do and as soon as you do, comment out everything. Explicitly state why and how you did something. Do this even if you're working alone. You'll only thank yourself later for doing this. Spending extra 5 minutes on commenting earlier will save you, say, 20 minutes of "reverting & remembering" later.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Crimson Wizard on 24 Aug 2016, 19:27
IT GRINDS MY GEARS WHEN:

I go back to try and complete an AGS project from months ago and I fix all the problems, only to break everything, and then I have to revert to an earlier version where things worked pretty much, and then have to remember how I "fixed" everything, and then I break several things, and then...

I realise that all my gear grinding is totally my own fault for not being more organised in the first place...
Wow, I've definitely been there.
Thankfully I've got a good memory, and can usually recall what I fixed and how I fixed everything. But there's always that niggling doubt in the back of my mind that I've forgotten something, and there's a rare bug just lurking about.


Two words: VERSION CONTROL (https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Getting-Started-About-Version-Controll).
I mean, come on, people are using these for decades now.

An example of my AGS module's demo game under the source control: https://bitbucket.org/ivan-mogilko/ags-script-demos/commits/all

An example of how your script changes look under source control: https://bitbucket.org/ivan-mogilko/ags-script-demos/commits/a53ee0fbdb827c7380a61af82cb9cf4d0141477e
(yes, it would certainly benefit from comments too, but I was too lazy that day :))


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 24 Aug 2016, 23:45
The embarrassing truth is that I did put comments on everything saying what it does...I just screwed up how it does it...

Cheers for that as well CW...I'll check it out...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 25 Aug 2016, 11:13
When a game you looked forward to for a long time ends up sucking. Money spent on crap. That really grinds my gears. :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 25 Aug 2016, 12:47
When a game you looked forward to for a long time ends up sucking. Money spent on crap. That really grinds my gears. :-D

No Man's Sky?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 25 Aug 2016, 12:49
When a game you looked forward to for a long time ends up

... not getting released.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: NickyNyce on 25 Aug 2016, 13:02
When you finally think it's time to try and make another game, sit at your computer, open your paint program, stare at the screen for 5 minutes and then say "I must be out of my mind" shut everything off and wonder how in the world I did it the last time.

Repeat this process every 2 weeks.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 25 Aug 2016, 13:31
Not getting released...yeah that is a serious offense! And nicky i know exactly how you feel...i have 3 different projects and none will probably get finished. I hope my iso rpg will make it to the finishing line though but somehow I doubt it. I started a Jimmy the troublemaker sequel 3 times...so...yeah.. :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 29 Aug 2016, 17:05
It grinds my gears knowing that there are countless unemployed but talented artists out there, yet Rob Liefield somehow got rich and famous drawing things like this:
(http://www.fanboy-confidential.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/anatomy.jpg)
(http://www.fanboy-confidential.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/faces.eg_.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 29 Aug 2016, 18:09
It grinds my gears knowing that there are countless unemployed but talented artists out there, yet Rob Liefield somehow got rich and famous drawing things like this:

While I'll admit that some of that stuff is pretty horrible (I cannot at all parse how that Captain America picture is supposed to even...) : The dude probably delivers the material on time to meet the schedule(s) of the comic(s) he is working on and might not even be liking a lot of his finished works...

But in a fast commercial market like comics: An artist who can meet deadlines is more valuable than one who MUST correct their work to perfection before submitting it...

Sure...he will never be a legendary artist (Da Vinci couldn't work on anything to completion to meet his own satisfaction for shit)...But he is a working artist who gets his stuff out there...That deserves a bit of respect...

That being said: Yeah, it grinds my gears also that a lot of more talented artists can probably do the same, but just don't have the same connections...

They just have to work on getting them...It's a painful fact of the world we live in...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 29 Aug 2016, 18:39
There are comic artists out there that are much worse.
I can't remember his name, but there's one guy who traces all of his work. He constantly traces his own work, which was usually traced from porn films. No joke.
I can't for the life of me remember his name though. ???
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 29 Aug 2016, 19:02
There are comic artists out there that are much worse.
I can't remember his name, but there's one guy who traces all of his work. He constantly traces his own work, which was usually traced from porn films. No joke.
I can't for the life of me remember his name though. ???
Gerg Land by any chance? (roll)
(http://www.craveonline.com/images/stories/2011/2012/August/Comics/land628.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 29 Aug 2016, 21:43
Gerg Land by any chance? (roll)
Based on those images, it looks like it. (nod)

I remember reading a huge argument between two people, about how one thought it was acceptable and the other didn't.
It was an entertaining read.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: nihilyst on 31 Aug 2016, 15:43
It grinds my gears that in Chrome, I cannot go to the last page with backspace anymore. It was so convenient, and ALT + left cursor isn't.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 01 Sep 2016, 01:22
What grinds my gears is crap like this CNN article. (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/31/europe/seti-signal-hd-164595-not-alien-civilization/index.html)

Seriously?! What's with all the unwanted and unfunny "humour" in this "science" piece?!

Is CNN accepting articles from high 16-year-olds now?!

(And, yeah, I know CNN is a crap news channel. I only go there for news because they have the resources to get breaking news stories up fast.)

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 01 Sep 2016, 20:46
How about spending a ton of money taking your family to the theme park, 60% of the time queuing for rides, then find out you have to pay for parking to escape the place!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: NickyNyce on 01 Sep 2016, 21:22
I now hate CNN. They are lying pieces of crap that edit and cut videos to tell their own stories. They promote hate and violence and for some reason love to hate on law enforcement. To hell with CNN!

https://youtu.be/OAEy5yjX4S8

This one really takes the cake. Instead of saying shame on this girl for the things she's saying, they make her out to be some promoter of peace.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 02 Sep 2016, 00:01
What grinds my gears is crap like this CNN article. (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/31/europe/seti-signal-hd-164595-not-alien-civilization/index.html)

Seriously?! What's with all the unwanted and unfunny "humour" in this "science" piece?!

Is CNN accepting articles from high 16-year-olds now?!

(And, yeah, I know CNN is a crap news channel. I only go there for news because they have the resources to get breaking news stories up fast.)


I was actually surprised that he didn't add  (Not Kardashian) when it said Kardashev scale :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 02 Sep 2016, 00:19
I was actually surprised that he didn't add  (Not Kardashian) when it said Kardashev scale :D

You are SO right...Damn, the dude must have been off his game that day! :-D

He was probably shoved hot pizza in his mouth (I mean...WTF even was that joke?! And why did he think it worthy to become a running gag?! I suspect he actually had just burnt his mouth with hot pizza and pulled a Brick ("I love lamp") on us...More to the point I suppose is why are there even any gags, bad or good, running or otherwise...In a friggin' science piece that is not even about a slightly humourous topic?!)

And NickyNyce: I watched the relevant parts of that video and that is just simply despicable of CNN. I know their agenda to paint the police in a bad light and incite riots, because obviously riots sell news...But I thought it was just more slanted and not outright "Wag The Dog" type BS...

Anyways: I go to CNN only for the straight up facts, like a volcano errupted somewhere, and skip all the slanted political commentary. And that's because, like I mentioned before: CNN is fastest to break stories and show footage.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 02 Sep 2016, 00:27
Jokes has no place in science!!!! :D haha no but I agree, it was hard to take that serious.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 02 Sep 2016, 00:38
Is CNN accepting articles from high 16-year-olds now?!

According to his profile he "has been a writer, producer, field reporter and blogger for CNN since 2005." It doesn't say "failed stand-up" which I guess he edited out using his editing prowess.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 02 Sep 2016, 01:24
Jokes has no place in science!!!! :D haha no but I agree, it was hard to take that serious.

I wasn't meaning that science should be taken 100% seriously. I meant more that it's just such a weird choice to try and make this particular article into a comedy piece: Where's the comedic value in the underlying story? Is it that the scientists maybe got the origin of the signal wrong? That's the only thin premise for making it jokey that I can see, but his jokes aren't even about that!!! It's more like he was high and just making random connections and references for no reason...

And Stupot+: If this dude ever did a stand-up show I would SO want to see it just for the sheer awkwardness!!! That would be awesome!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 02 Sep 2016, 01:34
It's a bit like most of our first attempts at an AGS game where we think we need to put a funny gag in every interaction.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 02 Sep 2016, 03:56
It's a bit like most of our first attempts at an AGS game where we think we need to put a funny gag in every interaction.

EXACTLY!!! A very good example indeed!!!

I still remember the worst from my first game:

If you tried using the fish on the sun the character said: "No, that could cause nuclear fish-sun and I've heard that's very dangerous!"

And I was so proud of that gag at the time: Now I just think about it and gag...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on 02 Sep 2016, 06:40
What grinds my gears?

People who wear a big hat but produce nothing or very little (laugh)

In fact, anyone who wears a big hat but fails to deliver the goods (laugh)

People who promote very high-end yet end up with nothing (laugh)

When people don't take it as important/seriously as you (laugh)


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 02 Sep 2016, 11:32
Haha, nice one. Today I was surprised that CNN treats their readers as the morons they are.

I mean it's not important that they and others like them are providing nothing more than a PR service (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/07/24/wikileaks-emails-pro-clinton-cnn-political-commentator-pre-checked-op-ed-with-dnc/), or have no journalistic skill or integrity (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/18/image-syrian-boy-desert-un-refugees-tweet).

But this.  8-0

It grinds my gears that the mainstream media don't produce quality content like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6gEQLTHev0) for their wars any more.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 02 Sep 2016, 12:24
If you tried using the fish on the sun the character said: "No, that could cause nuclear fish-sun and I've heard that's very dangerous!"
:-\ I don't get it.

As for what grinds my gears. Well, like all of you. The abysmal nature of how the news is reported, and that it's always doom and gloom. Then again, I never look at the news anyway, so what does it matter to me.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 02 Sep 2016, 12:55
Ever heard of Nuclear Fission Danvzare?
I think it's a funny joke, one of those so bad it's good jokes. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 02 Sep 2016, 14:55
Ever heard of Nuclear Fission Danvzare?
I think it's a funny joke, one of those so bad it's good jokes. (laugh)
OH! 8-0
Now I get it!
I'ts a pun. I can't believe I didn't notice that. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 02 Sep 2016, 15:45
I think it's a funny joke, one of those so bad it's good jokes. (laugh)

Hahaha...thanks for that...The game is FULL of them if anyone wants to cringe a little more: Just look at everything, interact with everything, and use everything on everything!

It was my first AGS game, and it has no sound effects or music as I did not know how to do those back then...

I released it about two weeks after downloading AGS. It was a student project in my school where the kids drew the characters and backgrounds in a single lesson of 3 hours and then I made it in AGS even though I had NO idea what I was doing (I even saved a variable in a character's 1% transparancy value as I didn't know about global variables and couldn't understand the right place to put a local variable)

I remember being so entranced about how I could draw walkbehinds around trees that were just paper glued onto paper in real life, and yet make it look like the character was going behind them: And that's probably the moment I became an AGS addict...

I'm still quite proud of it however despite its many, many, MANY flaws and if anyone wants to check it out:

CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD MY FIRST BIG ADVENTURE (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/1728/)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AnasAbdin on 07 Sep 2016, 18:24
Probably those of you following me on twitter already saw it :P
What grinds my gears (in an adventure game) is when you forget to write down a randomly generated code in the beginning of a game that later near the end of the game you have to use it.

Space Quest XII
(http://i.imgur.com/NcztxrC.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 07 Sep 2016, 18:56
AHAHAAAAAAAHHHHh (laugh)(laugh)(laugh)(laugh) (nod)(nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on 08 Sep 2016, 09:06
People who say "The US is a republic, not a democracy." ONE DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE OTHER! THE US IS CLEARLY BOTH!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 08 Sep 2016, 13:21
People who say "The US is a republic, not a democracy." ONE DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE OTHER! THE US IS CLEARLY BOTH!
I thought to be a democracy, you needed a republic? ???
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on 08 Sep 2016, 14:37
Danzvare, Britain is a democracy but not a republic.

The only time a republic and a democracy should preclude each other, however, is in a game of Civ 2 :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: arj0n on 08 Sep 2016, 15:06
A true democracy does simply not exist.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 08 Sep 2016, 16:09
The only time a republic and a democracy should preclude each other, however, is in a game of Civ 2 :P

ARRRGGGHHHH!!! Don't mention that awesome game or I might start wasting my time playing it again!

Even though that I have figured out that all upping the difficulty level does is give the AI opponents resource boosts and impossible abilities to regrow city levels, and replace lost troops instantly...

I mean...seriously?! I hit a level 10 city with a nuke, which should set it back to level 5, but on the next turn it's level 7, and then gains a level every turn until it's back to level 10 three turns later???!!!

AND can also manage to restock Alpine Troops every single turn??? Their economy is unbreakable!!!

Fair enough I suppose, considering that the AI is pretty stupid and wouldn't be much of a challenge otherwise: They mass their ship fleets and hover around one of my cities that is a square inland and that they can never attack...

If this otherwise perfect game could be rereleased by a fan/hacker which fixed all the AI bugs, made the opponents smarter instead of just giving them impossible buffs per difficultly level, and fixed the travesty of air units not being able to overfly enemy units without attacking them...

It could be the greatest simulation game ever made...

/Grinding my gears on a decades-old game...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 08 Sep 2016, 16:28
If this otherwise perfect game could be rereleased by a fan/hacker which fixed all the AI bugs, made the opponents smarter instead of just giving them impossible buffs per difficultly level, and fixed the travesty of air units not being able to overfly enemy units without attacking them...

It could be the greatest simulation game ever made...
Isn't that what Freeciv is?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 08 Sep 2016, 22:13
It grinds my gears that animated movies still are considered dumb kiddie entertainment by the large masses.
Never mind that there are several good animated films out there which tackle difficult subjects in a more mature and artful way than most live-action movies,
the notion that animated is automatically kid-friendly have most likely made innocent kids suffer as well.

I have already read about traumatized kids being dragged out of theaters showing Sausage Party (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlzAJo16eww)... 8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 09 Sep 2016, 11:16
It grinds my gears that animated movies still are considered dumb kiddie entertainment by the large masses.
Never mind that there are several good animated films out there which tackle difficult subjects in a more mature and artful way than most live-action movies,
the notion that animated is automatically kid-friendly have most likely made innocent kids suffer as well.

I have already read about traumatized kids being dragged out of theaters showing Sausage Party (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlzAJo16eww)... 8-0
I can't agree with this enough!
That really grinds my gears as well. >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 09 Sep 2016, 19:18
well... Princese Mononoke was rated +6 (or all ages, can't remember anymore) in Portugal. I went to see in at the cinema with a friend, and there were several parents with small children... let's just say that after about 2 minutes into the movie, most (if not all) parents with small children left! 8-0

I think the ppl rating looked at it and said "Cartoon movie... it's for kids!"... but they never even saw 5 minutes of it! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 09 Sep 2016, 23:14
most (if not all) parents with small children left! 8-0

Of course! The Princess Mononoke movie is way too complex for little kids to be able to follow!

In much the same way, that Saving Private Ryan parody scene in Sausage Party would be totally wasted on them!

These are clearly NOT movies for kids!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 09 Sep 2016, 23:59
In case you haven't seen the movie... the first few minutes, involves a battle with swords... and lot's of arms, legs, heads and other body parts being sliced and flying through the air... including the blood. :-\ Am pretty sure if they had seen it, they would have realized that kids needed to be a bit older for this.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on 10 Sep 2016, 02:32
In case you haven't seen the movie... the first few minutes, involves a battle with swords... and lot's of arms, legs, heads and other body parts being sliced and flying through the air... including the blood. :-\ Am pretty sure if they had seen it, they would have realized that kids needed to be a bit older for this.

Love that sequence.  Wish I had seen that in cartoons as a child.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 10 Sep 2016, 02:37
In case you haven't seen the movie... the first few minutes, involves a battle with swords... and lot's of arms, legs, heads and other body parts being sliced and flying through the air... including the blood. :-\ Am pretty sure if they had seen it, they would have realized that kids needed to be a bit older for this.

I've seen it about 6-7 times...I know you meant the violence...I was just being droll...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 10 Sep 2016, 09:52
I remember watching Princess Mononoke. I can't remember how old I was. Probably around twelve. It was on TV in Japanese, and had subtitles.
I could barely follow the film (not because it was subtitled, I could read very well), so yeah, like Mandle says, way too complex of a plot for kids.

I think the ppl rating looked at it and said "Cartoon movie... it's for kids!"... but they never even saw 5 minutes of it! >:(
That annoys me so much. I mean, no one would look at South Park and say that!
And if you look at some really old cartoons, like the original Felix the Cat shorts, they're more adult themed than even South Park!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 10 Sep 2016, 11:32
And if you look at some really old cartoons, like the original Felix the Cat shorts, they're more adult themed than even South Park!
Yes, I do feel that cartoons were indeed much, much darker before, because the cinemas often used to show short cartoons before
the feature-length movie back in the day, and many of them were geared towards adults.

One of the darkest movies I've seen was a wartime propaganda film titled Education for death (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l14WDZCnz-w), made by none other than Walt Disney.
And people today say Frozen is "dark" because the protagonists parents die off-screen and another character lies about being a nice guy. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 11 Sep 2016, 12:40
I didn't know this until recently, but this change was probably brought on by the motion picture production code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code), which was instituted by hollywood on 1930. This resulted in a collection of "pre-code" films which addressed race relations, drug use and sexuality with a freedom we have been slowly re-acquiring in recent decades.

It grinds my gears that: Things which take so long to build are so easy to ruin.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 12 Sep 2016, 11:24
I get a bit annoyed at myself when I hear certain songs so awfully terrible (not even a so bad it's good song), and it sticks in your head and you catch yourself singing it!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on 12 Sep 2016, 13:03
I get a bit annoyed at myself when I hear certain songs so awfully terrible (not even a so bad it's good song), and it sticks in your head and you catch yourself singing it!

Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! :=
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 12 Sep 2016, 14:08
I get a bit annoyed at myself when I hear certain songs so awfully terrible (not even a so bad it's good song), and it sticks in your head and you catch yourself singing it!

Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! :=

I'm not sure though if "Let It Go" fits the description of a terrible song...I would say it's one of Disney's best (The Lion King still rules supreme for the songs though in my book)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 12 Sep 2016, 15:44
I didn't know this until recently, but this change was probably brought on by the motion picture production code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code), which was instituted by hollywood on 1930. This resulted in a collection of "pre-code" films which addressed race relations, drug use and sexuality with a freedom we have been slowly re-acquiring in recent decades.
I've read about the Hayes Code before, though I doubt that it's solely to blame since it applied to cartoons and live-action alike.
I'd say this also has a lot to do with media technology as well, since the introduction of daytime TV created a huge demand for family-friendly content, and the loosened restrictions of recent times goes hand in hand with internet becoming big and many people being able to share content without relying on studios and tv-companys.

I get a bit annoyed at myself when I hear certain songs so awfully terrible (not even a so bad it's good song), and it sticks in your head and you catch yourself singing it!

Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! :=

I'm not sure though if "Let It Go" fits the description of a terrible song...I would say it's one of Disney's best (The Lion King still rules supreme for the songs though in my book)
And speaking of cartoons, while I have to admit that I liked "Let it go", it grinds my gears that I still see stupid Frozen merchandise pushed in my face everywhere. People simply refuse to let it go!
It's not even a good movie! It has plotholes the size of China, the song the trolls sing is so awful it's even worse than vogon poetry and the animators didn't even bother to give the female characters different character models:
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/4763d808a457ab814b9631d02c4fc477/tumblr_inline_nri4px1Wlb1t9txgy_500.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 13 Sep 2016, 11:01
What grinds my gears is that Frozen got ridiculously popular, yet almost no one ever mentions Wreck-It Ralph, despite the latter being a much better film in my opinion. So much better in fact, that it's actually getting a sequel! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on 13 Sep 2016, 11:39
I've read about the Hayes Code before, though I doubt that it's solely to blame since it applied to cartoons and live-action alike.
I'd say this also has a lot to do with media technology as well, since the introduction of daytime TV created a huge demand for family-friendly content, and the loosened restrictions of recent times goes hand in hand with internet becoming big and many people being able to share content without relying on studios and tv-companys.

The death of cinematic cartoon shorts came about largely because a Supreme Court antitrust ruling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pictures,_Inc.) forced the separation of cinema chains from movie studios. In the old days, studios like Warner, MGM, Paramount, etc. owned the movie theaters and controlled the programming (so a particular cinema would show only films from a particular studio). The ruling meant they had to sell them off, and that there had to be an open market in deciding what each cinema would show. The court also started to enforce an earlier decision that it was illegal to "block-book" short films along with feature-length films (i.e. sell them as a package). This made them much harder to sell, since people didn't usually buy movie tickets for short films but for main features, so they were an obvious target for cinema chain cost-cutting (the movie business went into a major decline around this time). Within a few years they were all but gone.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on 13 Sep 2016, 11:47
What grinds my gears is that Frozen got ridiculously popular, yet almost no one ever mentions Wreck-It Ralph, despite the latter being a much better film in my opinion. So much better in fact, that it's actually getting a sequel! >:(

(http://i.marktplaats.com/00/s/NTc2WDEwMjQ=/z/PpYAAOSw6n5XrEBu/$_84.JPG)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 13 Sep 2016, 13:41
I thought Frozen was good, not necessarily outstanding.  It was phenomenally popular because it hit all the right social consciousness buttons at the right time.

Still haven't seen Wreck It Ralph (it's on my To Do list though!).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 13 Sep 2016, 16:27
Still haven't seen Wreck It Ralph (it's on my To Do list though!).

Even if the movie doesn't do it for you...the credits will!!! And the movie will, but the credits even WILLER!!!

I feel confident saying this in this particular forum, without any further spoilers...

(I cried while smiling during the credits, and wished I had seen the movie on the big screen)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 13 Sep 2016, 17:46
The death of cinematic cartoon shorts came about largely because a Supreme Court antitrust ruling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pictures,_Inc.) forced the separation of cinema chains from movie studios. In the old days, studios like Warner, MGM, Paramount, etc. owned the movie theaters and controlled the programming (so a particular cinema would show only films from a particular studio). The ruling meant they had to sell them off, and that there had to be an open market in deciding what each cinema would show. The court also started to enforce an earlier decision that it was illegal to "block-book" short films along with feature-length films (i.e. sell them as a package). This made them much harder to sell, since people didn't usually buy movie tickets for short films but for main features, so they were an obvious target for cinema chain cost-cutting (the movie business went into a major decline around this time). Within a few years they were all but gone.
Most interesting, thanks for the read! (nod)

I thought Frozen was good, not necessarily outstanding.  It was phenomenally popular because it hit all the right social consciousness buttons at the right time.
That is also something which baffles me, since I can't really think of anything that Frozen did that other Disney/Pixar movies haven't done before. Compared with previous Disney movies, such as this scene from Pocahontas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2av9SQsMIi8) or The hunchback from Notre Dame (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3NoDEu7kpg),
I think Frozen is very tame and doesn't take any big risks. Even Wreck it Ralph and Zootopia handled issues like fear of others and alienation much, much better than Frozen.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 13 Sep 2016, 20:07
I think any Pixar film is worth watching!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on 13 Sep 2016, 20:12
I think any Pixar film is worth watching!

I'll take your word for it, but I'm still not watching Cars 2 (or Cars)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 13 Sep 2016, 21:53
I don't think Frozen really did anything drastically new, it just appealed to the prevailing mood of a lot of people when it came out, and this coupled with a lot of publicity blew the hype well out of proportion.  But I agree, there was little / nothing genuinely "new" in it.

Speaking of Zootopia - which I also enjoyed - did anyone feel it seemed more about sexism than racism, despite there being many obvious opportunities to deal with racism?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on 13 Sep 2016, 23:09
I think you guys are overlooking some major elements of Frozen to say that there's nothing original in it. For example, that bit where one of the main characters goes pretty far down the road to become a villain, while the other tries to redeem her? You'll have to stretch quite a bit to find that in earlier Disney movies (Pinocchio and Lilo & Stitch probably come closest). The focus on sisterhood and rejection of Prince Charming are also firsts in a Disney movie, I believe.

My main beef with current Disney movies is simply that I wish they would go back to 2D animation, or at least animation with more of a 2D look. Ever since Tarzan and its Deep Canvas system, and then later with the Meander system used in "Paperman", they've had tools to do really nice painterly stuff that allows them to put hand-painted/drawn things into a 3D scene (though I didn't think "Feast" worked very well: basically just looked like cel-shaded 3D), but all feature movies have this cheap videogamey 3D look. I had hoped Moana would be 2D, since the Polynesian setting lends itself beautifully to more loosely painted backgrounds. Ah well.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 13 Sep 2016, 23:46
The focus on sisterhood and rejection of Prince Charming are also firsts in a Disney movie, I believe.

Okay, possibly being a tad unfair with earlier comments - as mentioned I did enjoy the movie, just didn't think about it too hard maybe!

The feisty heroine bit had certainly been done before in Mulan, but I guess she in a way had a "Prince Charming".  I haven't seen all of them.  Nothing beats The Jungle Book for me!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 14 Sep 2016, 01:17
I think half of the reason for Frozen's popularity at the box office was simply down to Let It Go. Which in my opinion is a very very good, almost perfect song (coming from someone who claims to hate Disney). It was just so damn overplayed people either went to watch the film because they were swept up in the hype (largely caused by the song) or they just thought going to see the film was the only option left other than suicide to try and get it out of their heads.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 14 Sep 2016, 09:56
It grinds my gears when "What grinds my gears" turns into a discussion about which movies are good :-D (joking)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 14 Sep 2016, 09:59
The focus on sisterhood and rejection of Prince Charming are also firsts in a Disney movie, I believe.

Okay, possibly being a tad unfair with earlier comments - as mentioned I did enjoy the movie, just didn't think about it too hard maybe!

The feisty heroine bit had certainly been done before in Mulan, but I guess she in a way had a "Prince Charming".  I haven't seen all of them.  Nothing beats The Jungle Book for me!
Lilo and Stitch did the sister dynamic before, and Brave was also about the relation between two female family members, albeit a mother and daughter.
Even the rejection of Prince Charming and critique of Love at first sight was done before in Enchanted (Just compare this clip to Elsa/Hans meeting!) (https://youtu.be/tDutMRSmKVE?t=195).

The only thing that Frozen did first for a Disney movie was making the identity of the villain a surprise, and even then it feels like an afterthought tacked on at the last minute.
In my opinion, Frozen is like Cars, but for girls.

My main beef with current Disney movies is simply that I wish they would go back to 2D animation, or at least animation with more of a 2D look. Ever since Tarzan and its Deep Canvas system, and then later with the Meander system used in "Paperman", they've had tools to do really nice painterly stuff that allows them to put hand-painted/drawn things into a 3D scene (though I didn't think "Feast" worked very well: basically just looked like cel-shaded 3D), but all feature movies have this cheap videogamey 3D look. I had hoped Moana would be 2D, since the Polynesian setting lends itself beautifully to more loosely painted backgrounds. Ah well.
Yes, it's a real shame you don't see many 2D movies being produced anymore, I remember growing up watching Disney and Don Bluth movies over and over again, I felt they looked like picture-books given life and they inspired me to draw things myself.
Most of the 3D movies just feel like they all look the same as well, there isn't really any big differences in style, only in budget and technology.

However, there is a good animated film of H.C Andersens tale The Snow Queen, made in Soviet Russia in 1957. It's 2D animated and stays pretty accurate to the original story as well.
Here is a link for the curious:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 14 Sep 2016, 10:54
Was "The Princess and the Frog" in 2009 the last 2D animated movie Disney did?  (That one was very good, but I can't remember any others since then.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: arj0n on 14 Sep 2016, 11:19
There were 6 more. Rremember Wreck-It Ralph? :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 14 Sep 2016, 13:29
There were 6 more. Rremember Wreck-It Ralph? :)

2D! :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 14 Sep 2016, 13:33
I can't really think of anything that Frozen did that other Disney/Pixar movies haven't done before.
It demonstrated that family love, is another form of love. That's all it did differently. And even I'll admit I enjoyed that. :-D

I'll take your word for it, but I'm still not watching Cars 2 (or Cars)
Speaking of Cars, I really wish that they would make a prequel Cars movie. I want to see a rusty Lightning McQueen trying to get his start as a racing car!
It's clearly hinted at in the first movie. I think it could actually make a decent movie.

Speaking of Zootopia - which I also enjoyed - did anyone feel it seemed more about sexism than racism, despite there being many obvious opportunities to deal with racism?
I enjoyed Zootopia too. Great film. Personally, I didn't feel as though it was a perfect analog for racism either. Especially with the predators which were not only the minority, but also the leaders and ones who get all the opportunities. And it seemed both predators and prey were equally speciesist to each other. So personally, I think they just wanted to create a realistic world of anthropomorphic animals.

Also, am I the only one who thinks "Let it go" should be sung as "Let it snow"?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on 14 Sep 2016, 15:24
Nothing beats The Jungle Book for me!

That's one of my least favorite Disney animated features! I hate how it completely ditches all the coolest bits from the Jungle Book stories, how it's all just a long sequence of "and then Mowgli runs into some other wacky characters", the utterly underwhelming ending (with Shere Khan just running away after a short squabble) and the lazy recycling of the same animation over and over within the film (particularly egregious with Kaa and the elephants).

Lilo and Stitch did the sister dynamic before, and Brave was also about the relation between two female family members, albeit a mother and daughter.
Even the rejection of Prince Charming and critique of Love at first sight was done before in Enchanted (Just compare this clip to Elsa/Hans meeting!) (https://youtu.be/tDutMRSmKVE?t=195).

True, Lilo & Stitch deals with sisterhood, but Lilo and Nani are much further apart in age, so it becomes something quite like a parent-child relationship. The Frozen version is pretty different.

There are definitely some parallels to Enchanted, but I don't count (mostly) live-action movies like that as part of the Disney animation canon.

Was "The Princess and the Frog" in 2009 the last 2D animated movie Disney did?  (That one was very good, but I can't remember any others since then.)

There was a Winnie the Pooh movie after that. It flew under the radar for some reason.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 14 Sep 2016, 16:10
That's one of my least favorite Disney animated features! I hate how it completely ditches all the coolest bits from the Jungle Book stories, how it's all just a long sequence of "and then Mowgli runs into some other wacky characters", the utterly underwhelming ending (with Shere Khan just running away after a short squabble) and the lazy recycling of the same animation over and over within the film (particularly egregious with Kaa and the elephants).

It's hard to rationalise sometimes why you love a movie that you have loved since you were a kid - also whether you have read the book before or after seeing the movie makes a big difference.  I've always loved Phil Harris' voicing, Louis Prima's singing, the songs in general and the personality clash of Baloo and Bagheera.  Perhaps not the best if you look at it analytically, but it will always have a special place in my heart.

There was a Winnie the Pooh movie after that. It flew under the radar for some reason.

Oh yeah forgot the Winne the Pooh movie.  I want to see that, although mainly because I know my kids will love it.  I've got the book of the movie which they enjoy having read to them, but it's basically recycling stuff from the old stories.  I seem to remember someone was tasked with creating new stories for the 100 Acre Wood gang, I wonder if any of those got made into animated films?


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 14 Sep 2016, 19:00
I think any Pixar film is worth watching!

I'll take your word for it, but I'm still not watching Cars 2 (or Cars)

Just remembered, stay away from Planes! That's the only Pixar film I thought was naff.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on 14 Sep 2016, 22:10
It's hard to rationalise sometimes why you love a movie that you have loved since you were a kid - also whether you have read the book before or after seeing the movie makes a big difference.  I've always loved Phil Harris' voicing, Louis Prima's singing, the songs in general and the personality clash of Baloo and Bagheera.  Perhaps not the best if you look at it analytically, but it will always have a special place in my heart.

Sure, and as far as I can tell it's pretty well regarded (as demonstrated by the live-action remake); my opinion is probably in the minority. The film does have some great songs, strong character design, fine animation and beautiful backgrounds.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 14 Sep 2016, 23:38
I think any Pixar film is worth watching!

I'll take your word for it, but I'm still not watching Cars 2 (or Cars)

Just remembered, stay away from Planes! That's the only Pixar film I thought was naff.

Planes is not actually a Pixar film:

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Although Planes (2013) is a spin-off of the Pixar Animation Studios film, Cars (2006) and its sequel Cars 2 (2011), it was not produced by Pixar Animation Studios. It was produced by the DisneyToon Studios production company, known mostly for making direct-to-video spin-offs and sequels of Walt Disney Animation Studios films. However, John Lasseter (writer and director of both Cars movies) served as an executive producer.

And: just to be relevant to the thread:

What grinds my gears is the entire "Cars" movies' universe...

Who built all the buildings? Why are all animals mechanical but all plants are normal? Why are there farmlands? (okay...maybe corn for bio-fuel...) Where do the cars come from? Why is there a child car in Cars 2? (this implies they are born and grow up)...Also, we meet some characters' parents in Cars 2...Why am I complaining about the logic of movies that were obviously aimed at selling toys to kids (ever seen a kid with Lightning MacQueen on their shirt?...Okay: ever seen a kid with Carl from "Up" on their shirt?)...So yeah: gears ground!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 15 Sep 2016, 10:42
Speaking of cars again. It really grinds my gears when a car is closing in on you at night and don't switch off the full headlight (not sure what the name for that is in english. Driving beam?) removes your vision completely!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 15 Sep 2016, 11:12
Speaking of cars some more, it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning, and some people don't put their headlights on when it's a dark and gloomy evening! >:(

I even suspect it might be the same backwards people.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: gameboy on 15 Sep 2016, 12:03
What really grinds my gears is that there are so many people who think it's perfectly okay to ding other car doors in parking lots. And even worse, park by feel. >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 15 Sep 2016, 12:45
Speaking of cars some more, it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning...
Are they Volvos, by any chance? I'm sure I'll be corrected but I heard Volvos always have their headlights in because they are from Sweden, where the sun don't shine.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 15 Sep 2016, 12:55
Speaking of cars some more, it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning...
Are they Volvos, by any chance? I'm sure I'll be corrected but I heard Volvos always have their headlights in because they are from Sweden, where the sun don't shine.

Yeah I learned to drive in a Volvo, and you couldn't turn the headlights off.  Same for Saab I think.  Can't remember if it was only Swedish cars though.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 15 Sep 2016, 14:50
the full headlight (not sure what the name for that is in english. Driving beam?)

High-beams
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 15 Sep 2016, 19:18
Well we do have sun here and volvo is no longer owned by swedes :-D but i totally understand your way of thinking haha
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 15 Sep 2016, 20:16
it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning,

Required by law in Denmark... ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 15 Sep 2016, 20:35
Well we do have sun here and volvo is no longer owned by swedes :-D but i totally understand your way of thinking haha

Well I did learn to drive 20 years ago... :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on 15 Sep 2016, 20:59
Speaking of cars again. It really grinds my gears when a car is closing in on you at night and don't switch off the full headlight (not sure what the name for that is in english. Driving beam?) removes your vision completely!
Speaking of cars some more, it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning...
Are they Volvos, by any chance? I'm sure I'll be corrected but I heard Volvos always have their headlights in because they are from Sweden, where the sun don't shine.

To be clear, Volvos don't have always-on high-beams, because that would be insane.

Actually, what they have are always-on "daytime running lights", which have been mandatory in Sweden for almost 40 years (and for decades in the rest of the Nordic countries, as well as Canada), a rule that has recently been adopted all over Europe. It used to be that manufacturers could choose whether to add separate lamps or just always leave the low-beam lights on (which I guess some Volvos did?), but under the new rules it has to be a separate set of lamps.

And this is a good thing, because lights improve visibility and safety even in daytime, as long as they're not excessively bright.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 21 Sep 2016, 03:08
I know I was whinging about CNN earlier in the thread, but just now they gave me one of the best laughs I've had recently:

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(CNN) News that Angelina Jolie is filing for divorce from Brad Pitt is causing rumbles -- and not just on social media.
The US Geological Survey detected a small earthquake Tuesday near Los Angeles just minutes after news broke that the power couple were splitting up.

CNN has confirmed the two incidents are unrelated.

OMG classic!

But I should be posting something that grinds my gears so:

What grinds my gears is this awesome silly song songified from a popular youtuber's lets plays by Schmoyoho:



It grinds my gears that I can't stop singing it at random moments through the day...

I challenge anyone to listen to this song and NOT get it stuck in their head...Jesus, it's crainial superglue or something!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on 21 Sep 2016, 09:59
What grinds my gears is when people don't use the Oxford comma, also known as the serial comma.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 22 Sep 2016, 22:52
It grinds my gears that some people complain that the presence of female fighters or black people in medieval fantasy is "historically inaccurate" but will readily accept things like:

Horns on viking helmets

Everyone, including poor peasants, having good teeth

Warriors wearing their swords strapped to their backs instead of their belts

pumpkins, potatoes and tomatoes (native to the american continent)

Zombies, orcs and other creatures that have never been part of European folklore
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 03 Oct 2016, 01:42
This recent comment I found on a game in the AGS database grinds my gears:

(I'll refrain from mentioning names...)

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Just from the screenshots alone, I see this is a good game. May be a while till I decide to play it myself, but I know this'll be a hit with Quest for Glory fans--one might say this is kind of "Quest for Glory--The Dark Side edition".
2016-09-30 14:53:03 by

Really?! You commented on a game you have not even played?!

Are you high and/or trolling?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on 03 Oct 2016, 13:13
I hate it when people open new threads that shows they didn't care about glancing at the rules. I'm not talking details, I'm talking looking at a new thread and wonder why they bothered at all.

Quote from: Some asshole
I'm making a new project. It's super secret so I can't give any details or screenshots, but I would need:

An artist to do backgrounds and characters for free.
A musician to make some music.
A dev with lots of AGS experience.
A writer to help me with the dialogue and the details of the story.

It's an indie project, so all positions are not payed.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 05 Oct 2016, 20:29
Oh yeah CaesarCub that really grinds my gears too :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 05 Oct 2016, 20:45
That bothers me too! I think if you're going to make an indie game you either need to be the artist or programmer yourself. If you're not one of those then you best have the funds.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on 06 Oct 2016, 12:56
If you're going to make an indie game you either need to be the artist or programmer yourself. If you're not one of those then you best have the funds.

this is so quoteworthy!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on 06 Oct 2016, 13:32
That bothers me too! I think if you're going to make an indie game you either need to be the artist or programmer yourself. If you're not one of those then you best have the funds.

I actually don't get mad at a writer trying to make an adventure game (since adventure games are usually strongly story-driven), but they better have a story, good design documents, a chunk of the story done for real, and they won't get crazy mad if you turn them down after reading the stuff and deciding it's not to your liking.
I mean, if you can't draw or code, you can do a horribly coded with stick figures and boxes for graphics demo of the game to show people what a great idea you have.

The real issue to me is when they have "ideas" and "concepts" and you are given only a synopsis of the story, or get told you can see the actual stuff after you agreed to work in it, because their writing is so amazing you might steal it and make your own game.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 06 Oct 2016, 13:36
That bothers me too! I think if you're going to make an indie game you either need to be the artist or programmer yourself. If you're not one of those then you best have the funds.

My programming and artistic skills are pathetic, I concentrate on the bits I can actually be good at ie story, game design, voice acting, have also become handy at SFX.  What you say only applies if you are determined to be a solo dev.  Different skill sets are what teams are for!

Although... after reading CaesarCub's post maybe you're talking about something different altogether, someone who kind of dumps a very basic concept on you as if that was "designing" a game, which it clearly isn't. 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 06 Oct 2016, 14:17
This discussion reminds me about something the author Kalle Lind wrote about Walt Disney...
"Walt Disney was great at making animated movies. Except that he didn't make the animations. And he took the stories from old fairytales. Basically, he put his signature on the movies, but he had someone else design the signature for him.
So I don't know what Walt Disney actually did, but he was good at it."

In my opinion, choosing good artists and writers and being a good leader of a team as well as acting as a vision-bearer can also be very valuable skills.
However, there is a difference between working hard to manage a group project and just look for others to do all the hard work for you.

Another thing that grinds my gears: People who insist licorice counts as candy.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on 06 Oct 2016, 14:32
"Walt Disney was great at making animated movies. Except that he didn't make the animations. And he took the stories from old fairytales. Basically, he put his signature on the movies, but he had someone else design the signature for him.
So I don't know what Walt Disney actually did, but he was good at it."

In my opinion, choosing good artists and writers and being a good leader of a team as well as acting as a vision-bearer can also be very valuable skills.
However, there is a difference between working hard to manage a group project and just look for others to do all the hard work for you.

Well, Walt Disney was good at selling and getting money.
He acted scenes and sweet talked the producers to get the funding for Snow White.
And then he payed the people that worked at his studio.

There's a difference between a manager that says "We are making a Snow White point and click adventure, here's money."
And one that says "We are making a Snow White point and click adventure, I'm sure when we finish it we will get rich, but for now we all have to put some effort."

The second guy might actually be sincere and good at being a leader, but 9 out of 10 times, he just wants to be successful by making other people work for it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 06 Oct 2016, 14:48
It seems that you're talking about an individual who gathers people to do his / her bidding instead of someone who forms a genuine team.  If that's the case then I agree with you.  However most indie game teams are formed to pool various talents - if one person can do a good job at every single element of creating a game, they often go ahead and do it as a solo dev.  Not many people can do that.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on 06 Oct 2016, 15:05
It seems that you're talking about an individual who gathers people to do his / her bidding instead of someone who forms a genuine team.  If that's the case then I agree with you.  However most indie game teams are formed to pool various talents - if one person can do a good job at every single element of creating a game, they often go ahead and do it as a solo dev.  Not many people can do that.

Well, my original rant was about people that make posts that you know will be ignored. Like starting a Game in Progress thread with no real description or images, or a recruiting post that tells you nothing about the game in particular.
The example I gave did have a secondary layer of things that annoy me.
People that think that just an idea is enough to make others work for them since they already contributed or people that expect others to join their teams when there are no definitions on what they really want to do are some examples.

Good indie teams are made of people that that are good at different things working together to make something.
I don't expect someone to be a solo dev.
I usually go that way, and I know it sucks because it becomes unbearable the moment you try to make the scope of the project bigger.

On the latter posts I was mostly referring to people that pretend to be the creators of a project when they only have an idea or a concept, but nothing else to contribute (whether it's skills or money).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 06 Oct 2016, 15:17
Well, I agree with you there, CaesarCub.
You can see similar things on Kickstarter, with someone giving a super vague idea and then expect people to pour them money.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 06 Oct 2016, 15:18
Yup don't really disagree with any of that.  Some of the crowd-funding campaign pages you see are laughably bad.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 06 Oct 2016, 15:45
@Selmiak: Put it in your signature! ;)

@CaptainD: At least you know the basics, you've also built a good reputation in the community. A lot of these sort of posts tend to be made by people who just registered, or have no proof of their abilities.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 06 Oct 2016, 17:41
A lot of these sort of posts tend to be made by people who just registered, or have no proof of their abilities.

Ah, I see... should have realised that's what you were targeting.  I think sometimes it's more that people don't actually understand just how much work and talent goes into making a good game than deliberately "taking advantage" (although not always), but I see your point.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 21 Oct 2016, 19:56
Popup ads grind my gears, along with auto-play video commercials and animated GIF-banners.

I mean, who on earth has ever in the history of planet earth clicked on those things for any reason other
than frantically trying to close them down before those ungodly noises and flashing lights give them a seizure?

And did someone actually think that "I know exactly what will sell our generic product, people love flashing images and stolen sound effects ground into a hideous mess!"?

Because noisy and/or animated ads doesn't make me want to see what they are selling.
Noisy and/or animated ads make me want to see how fast I can hit Alt+F4 without breaking my keyboard.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on 21 Oct 2016, 20:09
Adblock? (https://adblockplus.org/)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 21 Oct 2016, 20:48
I remember when I first installed Adblock.
I was marathoning Game Theory, and I was just getting the same (terrible) advert over and over again. It was driving me CRAZY!!!
Then as I was reading the comment section, it turned out other people were having the same problem, and someone suggested Adblock. There were those that were saying that Adblock wouldn't be able to stop Youtube ads, but I gave it a shot, and guess what, it did stop those ads.

Not only that, but I think it has drastically reduced the number of viruses I've been picking up as well.

I highly HIGHLY recommend Adblock. Just remember to disable it on websites you want you to support. :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 21 Oct 2016, 21:11
Yes, thanks for the tip you both!
Adblock do block most of the worst offenders,
which just proves how useless those ads are.

Who thought such a thing was a good idea is an absolute mystery to me. ???

Speaking of brightly colored garbage, I don't know what grind my gears most,
free to play games with a ton of micro-transactions and terrible gameplay,
or the kind of people who actually spend real-life money on such things.

I saw micro-transactions on Candy Crush for up to 10 US dollars! Don't they know how much real, actual and edible candy you can get for that sum? (wtf)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 21 Oct 2016, 23:22
Who thought such a thing was a good idea is an absolute mystery to me. ???

Then you might be satisfied to know that I was just reading an article the other day about how the dude that invented popup ads has just recently apologized for doing so.

He said something like that he was young and it seemed like a good idea at the time. But that now it has gotten out of control and turned into a kind of virus in and of itself. He also said that he hopes one day people will be able to look back on popup ads as a weird and quaint artifact of the past and wonder wtf people were thinking.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 22 Oct 2016, 00:51
Amen!

I also installed AdBlock to stop the forced adds on youtube... the popups and all other crap, I had already stopped by using NoScript, Flash block and Stop Autoplay (yes, I'm paranoid! Also have the Self-Destruting cookies" add-on).... (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 22 Oct 2016, 01:26
What grinds my gears is on Twitter where pictures are addressed as pic.twitter.com but videos also appear under pic.twitter.com

I have my Twitter app to hide all media until I click them but sometimes, on a busy train, I click on a "picture" because it says pic.twitter.com... But noooOOOooo. A loud video starts playibg instead. I have even contacted Twitter with my ingenious idea of having videos under, say, vid.twitter.com instead. But I guess they were too busy to reply.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 22 Oct 2016, 09:14
I've read somewhere that Google is planning to give sites a lower rank in their search results if they have pop-up ads.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 22 Oct 2016, 16:26
I also installed AdBlock to stop the forced adds on youtube... the popups and all other crap, I had already stopped by using NoScript, Flash block and Stop Autoplay (yes, I'm paranoid! Also have the Self-Destruting cookies" add-on).... (roll)
*takes notes and prepares to install suggested add-ons*
I'm not paranoid either. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 27 Oct 2016, 18:20
It really grinds my gears when two legged animals throw their trash out the window.

It could be a bus or a porsche SUV, they still do it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 27 Oct 2016, 20:05
It really grinds my gears when two legged animals throw their trash out the window.

It could be a bus or a porsche SUV, they still do it.
Yeah, damn those ostriches that litter!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 27 Oct 2016, 21:00
You got it backwards (http://www.supernews.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Cllr-Shaheem-Sims.jpg).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on 27 Oct 2016, 22:17
Damn that litter that ostriches!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 28 Oct 2016, 15:32
Littering is terrible, I've never understood people who just throw away their garbage out in the open.
Cigarette smokers are the worst offenders, at least discarded candy wrappers never started a forest fire,
but chewing gum is pretty gross too. I just hate people who leave stains of gum on the street or smeared
under school benches. I mean, if there really aren't any nearby trashcans, just swallow the stupid gum.
Accidentally getting gum on my shoes makes me wish the 700$ fine they have in Singapore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_ban_in_Singapore) could be applied worldwide!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 28 Oct 2016, 18:48
It really grinds my gears when two legged animals throw their trash out the window.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 20 Nov 2016, 14:09
Ok i got one thing that grinds my gears. People who asks for help in a forum...edits their post with a "nevermind i figured it out" but doesn't bother to explain how they solved it!!! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 31 Dec 2016, 12:54
There's one thing that grinds my gears, and I thought it might be worth pointing out today.
This year is about to end, and many celebrate with fireworks. One problem however, is that
some people start way before midnight, and continue with the fireworks for hours afterwards too.
All the noise and racket is annoying for me, but an absolutely terrifying experience for all dogs
in the area, so I hope anyone reading this send a thought to the poor animals and wait until midnight
with the fireworks, and then don't keep at it for too long.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 31 Dec 2016, 14:39
Not only that...they insist on blasting off their rockets/crackers several days before and several weeks after new years eve as well. It grinds my gears too :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 31 Dec 2016, 14:43
+1
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 31 Dec 2016, 14:57
This year is about to end, and many celebrate with fireworks.

As if the world hasn't had enough explosions this year.

So yeah:

+1

(Thank god the only thing they do here in Japan is ring the temple bells at midnight)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on 31 Dec 2016, 17:19
Here, it has become a custom to do aerial firing on new year's eve. This is obviously not only illegal but also quite dangerous. Many people get injured and even get killed due to it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 31 Dec 2016, 17:50
What do you mean by "aerial firing?" 8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 31 Dec 2016, 19:51
There's one thing that grinds my gears, and I thought it might be worth pointing out today.
This year is about to end, and many celebrate with fireworks. One problem however, is that
some people start way before midnight, and continue with the fireworks for hours afterwards too.
All the noise and racket is annoying for me, but an absolutely terrifying experience for all dogs
in the area, so I hope anyone reading this send a thought to the poor animals and wait until midnight
with the fireworks, and then don't keep at it for too long.

The only time I've had that problem where I live was at the year 2000. And damn it, they went on for hours!
So while I've never had any dogs (I have had rabbits who enjoyed the fireworks) I do understand your pain, +1 all the way.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on 01 Jan 2017, 16:09
What do you mean by "aerial firing?" 8-0

In simple terms, aerial firing is referred to the dumb phenomenon of pointing your gun towards the sky (usually at an angle), and firing a few shots. Some go even far, and empty their whole magazine into the sky.

The Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire) explains this in a much better way, if you're interested.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 01 Jan 2017, 16:17
Oh... I got the mental image os ppl launching fireworks from planes or balloons... (roll)
Don't ppl know that bullets that go up will eventually come down, with potential deadly outcome if they hit someone? 8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on 02 Jan 2017, 06:36
Thanks to my absent-mindedness, I forgot to mention the key point that aerial firing is done to 'show' celebration (as the Wikipedia article rightly states).

According to the reports, a minor was killed, and 20 people were injured (http://www.dawn.com/news/1305794) this time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 10 Jan 2017, 16:29
How about when you see a game with beautiful pixel art, there's always one guy in the comments that says something along the lines of: "Pfft looks like a NES game, why doesn't the lazy developer make the effort to make some real graphics!".
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 10 Jan 2017, 18:01
How about when you see a game with beautiful pixel art, there's always one guy in the comments that says something along the lines of: "Pfft looks like a NES game, why doesn't the lazy developer make the effort to make some real graphics!".

On a similar note, people complaining that "indie games always have stupid cartoon-style graphics" despite the indie scene being home to a myriad vastly contrasting visual styles.

(And anyway what's wrong with stupid cartoon-style graphics exactly?! :grin: :tongue: :wink:)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 10 Jan 2017, 19:24
How about when you see a game with beautiful pixel art, there's always one guy in the comments that says something along the lines of: "Pfft looks like a NES game, why doesn't the lazy developer make the effort to make some real graphics!".
On a related note, they always call pixel art "8-bit graphics" even when that pixel art looks nothing like something you'd find on an 8-bit system, and isn't even remotely 8-bit in colour depth. 8-bit is not synonymous with pixel art! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 11 Jan 2017, 22:43
How about when you see a game with beautiful pixel art, there's always one guy in the comments that says something along the lines of: "Pfft looks like a NES game, why doesn't the lazy developer make the effort to make some real graphics!".

Yeah, a lot of people (probably mostly young'uns) don't understand that the style of the graphics and the tone of the game go hand-in-hand, and that a comedic game probably wouldn't work with the graphics style of "The Last Of Us".

I hear the same rubbish from non-gamer grownups when they see modern games with pixel art, and when I try to explain that it's done on purpose and the reasons for doing so they just roll their eyes and say "I don't care. It still looks bad."

It's like trying to explain Picasso to someone who says "It doesn't look real. A four-year-old could paint that. It's crap."... Best to just give up and not further grind your already ground-down gears...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 12 Jan 2017, 06:18
My eye has been twitching for a couple of hours now. And even when it's not twitching it's on some kind of contstant half-twitch. No amount of blinking, massaging or leaving it alone is having any effect. My gears are being well and truly ground.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 16 Feb 2017, 19:02
It grinds my gears that I only seem to remember important things or get good ideas when I'm using the bathroom/in bed and about to go to sleep/ in a hurry to catch the next train or otherwise busy and occupied.
Meanwhile, when I actually have time, my brain is completely empty.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on 16 Feb 2017, 19:09
Blondbraid;

keep a notepad on you at all times (even in the bath (laugh)).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 23 Mar 2017, 14:45
More like annoying than making me angry, Google thinks I'm a Muslim. There's always an advert for Muslim brides or some religious event. A few years ago Adeel was talking about Ramadan, so I googled it out of curiosity. Did it a few times when he mentioned stuff. I do have Ad-blocker, but only on my laptop.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on 24 Mar 2017, 00:19
More like annoying than making me angry, Google thinks I'm a Muslim. There's always an advert for Muslim brides or some religious event. A few years ago Adeel was talking about Ramadan, so I googled it out of curiosity. Did it a few times when he mentioned stuff. I do have Ad-blocker, but only on my laptop.
(laugh)(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on 24 Mar 2017, 00:31
Retro Wolf, I think you should embrace your newfound religious devotion.

Google thinks I'm retirement age. I get advertisements for arthritis, cancer, diabetes and liver spot treatments.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 24 Mar 2017, 01:16
I keep getting adverts for the company I bloody work for!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 24 Mar 2017, 11:21
I keep getting adverts for the company I bloody work for!

Does your company have anything for Twitchy Eye Sydrome?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Crimson Wizard on 24 Mar 2017, 11:24
I keep getting adverts for the company I bloody work for!
I was getting adverts for company my company has produced software for :).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 24 Mar 2017, 12:14
More like annoying than making me angry, Google thinks I'm a Muslim. There's always an advert for Muslim brides or some religious event. A few years ago Adeel was talking about Ramadan, so I googled it out of curiosity. Did it a few times when he mentioned stuff. I do have Ad-blocker, but only on my laptop.
I can relate, but for me it was adverts from dating sites for russian import wives... (wtf) I have no idea on how they made the connection -> reads a lot about videogames and spend way too much time on browsing TVtropes (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage) = I'm a middle-aged buissnessman looking for a russian girlfriend! ??? One other reason to use Ad block.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 24 Mar 2017, 12:33
I have no idea on how they made the connection -> reads a lot about videogames
That seems like a pretty cut and dry connection to me. Everyone knows that anyone who likes videogames is a lonely basement dwelling virgin. Who else would be a better candidate for a Russian girlfriend. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 24 Mar 2017, 13:03
That seems like a pretty cut and dry connection to me. Everyone knows that anyone who likes videogames is a lonely basement dwelling virgin. Who else would be a better candidate for a Russian girlfriend. (laugh)
Donald Trump? :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 24 Mar 2017, 15:17
/me wonders what are those "adverts" ppl talk about...  (wtf)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 24 Mar 2017, 15:36
/me wonders what are those "adverts" ppl talk about...  (wtf)

I was wondering the same...

Where can we see these google adverts?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Amélie on 24 Mar 2017, 16:28
Nothing, everything is fine
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 19 Apr 2017, 20:29
There's a functional door bell on my front door, when someone presses it I can hear it throughout the house. Half the people who come to my door give it a gentle knock so I have no idea they're there until they've been stood there ages.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 20 Apr 2017, 00:00
There's a functional door bell on my front door, when someone presses it I can hear it throughout the house. Half the people who come to my door give it a gentle knock so I have no idea they're there until they've been stood there ages.

You need a sign saying "RING THE DAMN BELL!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 21 Apr 2017, 17:56
I've been thinking of adding such a sign too lately, specially our postman doesn't seem to know how it works.  (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 21 Apr 2017, 23:22
I've been thinking of adding such a sign too lately, specially our postman doesn't seem to know how it works.  (wrong)

In what way does he misuse your doorbell?

Does he always ring twice? 8-)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 21 Apr 2017, 23:52
"The postman never rings once, much less twice"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 21 Apr 2017, 23:58
"The postman never rings once, much less twice"

(laugh) (laugh) (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 27 Apr 2017, 09:14
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Isabelle.
Isabelle who?
Isabelle really necessary when I can just knock?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 27 Apr 2017, 09:26
Time traveler!
Who's there?
Knock knock.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 27 Apr 2017, 09:26
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Isabelle.
Isabelle who?
Isabelle really necessary when I can just knock?

Yeah, knock-knock jokes really grind my gears too! :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 27 Apr 2017, 11:06
Knock knock
Who's there?
Mandle
Mandle who?
Mandle who really has his gears ground by knock knock jokes
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 03 May 2017, 22:25
It grinds my gears whenever people making games/comics/movies promoting a "strong female character"
and say "she's not like other girls, she's a strong independent woman" and then proceeds to use exactly the same cookie-cutter character we've all seen before,
who starts out being pointlessly rude only to have a change of heart and fall for the hero anyway, and despite being introduced as a strong fighter just ends up being
used as damsel in distress in the third act anyway. Seriously, these characters are so predictable they should be considered walking spoilers by now.
(http://i.imgur.com/jukoD4v.png)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on 04 May 2017, 08:58
It grinds my gears whenever people making games/comics/movies promoting a "strong female character"

You could stop right there if you wanted, because it shouldn't be exceptional to have one.

I like your analysis. I remember thinking this about Nina in the Secret Files games. She gives so much sass all game that she just seems like a rude person. There's a point in one game where she gives sass to a SWAT crew in her underwear. She's strong, independent, but she needs Max because... ? Also, they end up getting married, so she really is the archetype you're talking about.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 04 May 2017, 10:25
It grinds my gears whenever people making games/comics/movies promoting a "strong female character"

You could stop right there if you wanted, because it shouldn't be exceptional to have one.

I like your analysis. I remember thinking this about Nina in the Secret Files games. She gives so much sass all game that she just seems like a rude person. There's a point in one game where she gives sass to a SWAT crew in her underwear. She's strong, independent, but she needs Max because... ? Also, they end up getting married, so she really is the archetype you're talking about.
I think Nina is far from the worst example, but yeah, so many of her lines are pretty cringe-worthy, especially the jokes on housecleaning, they felt recycled from the 1950's.  (wrong)

While we're at the subject, it also bugs me when people claim that female action heroes are unrealistic because the average man is slightly larger and stronger than the average woman.
Aside from the existence of guns, bows, spears and naginatas rendering size a moot point, male action heroes defeat bigger and stronger foes all the time!
Like when Indiana Jones fights that huge, muscular guy (https://youtu.be/rvQEJH_6kzs?t=83), or when Indiana Jones fights that other huge, muscular guy (https://youtu.be/RR51CavZxbc?t=75).  (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 04 May 2017, 10:43
It grinds my gears whenever people making games/comics/movies promoting a "strong female character"

You could stop right there if you wanted, because it shouldn't be exceptional to have one.

Ugh, I couldn't agree more. That grinds my gears as well.

If you want to make a "strong female character", then you've already failed. If you want to make a female character but have no idea how to do it without making a boring cookie cutter character, just write a male character and swap the genders at the last minute. It worked for Ripley on Alien.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 21 May 2017, 18:01
Something that bothers me with a lot of sci-fi and fantasy stories is when they try to use magical beings as a metaphor for real-life oppressed minorities... ... and the oppressed ones in the story have superpowers.

The whole message of "they are harmless people who are just like us and don't deserve to be shunned and feared" falls apart when the large masses have a legitimate reason to fear them.

Case in point:

The mages in Dragon age, people with magic powers who are either locked up in towers away from the locals or hunted down by knights because they either risk becoming mad with power and practice blood magic, or possessed by demons and turned into monsters (and even kind and well-meaning mages risk being possessed against their will). The game treats this as a cruel injustice against the mages.

X-men, and several other Marvel superhero movies, where the government wants to register people with various super-powers, such as shooting laser-beams from their eyes, mind-controlling people and kill them just by touching them. According to the X-men movies, requiring people to register mutants with the ability to kill countless people with a mere thought is considered literally just as bad as Hitler (https://youtu.be/XBWYWWUvxF0?t=13).

And let's not forget almost every single movie about witches, where Salem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials) and the witch hunts are mentioned, but in the movie, witches are real and can do magic. All the people who were executed in the witch trials were innocent, because you can't kill people with magic spells in the real world, so it kind of grinds my gears when people make up stories about witch hunters hunting real and dangerous witches, and are totally justified in doing so.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 21 May 2017, 23:44
Fair points, but also to be fair to X-Men, Magneto is not as concerned with the registration law itself as he is with where he believes it will eventually lead, because of what he has experienced with the Nazis. And also: he is the "bad guy".

Totally agree with the witches point though. I was quite shocked at the incredible bad-taste of that Nicholas Cage movie. I expected the whole way through that he would find the witch and discover that she was an innocent victim. But nope, she was actually a powerful and evil witch. Horrible!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 22 May 2017, 11:21
And let's not forget almost every single movie about witches, where Salem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials) and the witch hunts are mentioned, but in the movie, witches are real and can do magic. All the people who were executed in the witch trials were innocent, because you can't kill people with magic spells in the real world, so it kind of grinds my gears when people make up stories about witch hunters hunting real and dangerous witches, and are totally justified in doing so.
Someone should see about making a witch movie where all of the witch trials killed innocent non-witches because the real witches were too smart to get themselves caught. (laugh)

But I digress. I fully agree with your point. Funnily enough, that type of thing has always annoyed me, yet I've never been able to pinpoint what it was about those groups that annoyed me. Now I know why.

Totally agree with the witches point though. I was quite shocked at the incredible bad-taste of that Nicholas Cage movie. I expected the whole way through that he would find the witch and discover that she was an innocent victim. But nope, she was actually a powerful and evil witch. Horrible!
Hey, I remember that film. I was thinking the exact same thing throughout it. That was the film with Robert Sheehan in it right?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 07 Jun 2017, 14:38
I just saw the new Wonder Woman movie, and while I liked most of the movie,
the costumes they went with for the amazons really grinds my gears.

This is an promotional image from the Wonder Woman movie:
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/e8d5036a6cb956cdea3c1b2c4db80aa6/tumblr_o4k920q2zu1u581b8o1_500.png)
And these are images for Game of War, a free to play strategy game mostly known for using B-list actresses in gaudy costumes to trick people into spending money on micro-transactions.
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/6d210f0b1e280abadf79f08b4debede2/tumblr_inline_o7anaggmsj1qaqvtr_500.png)(http://www.adweek.com/agencyspy/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2015/09/game-of-war.png)(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/15/18/2C598A4D00000578-0-image-a-3_1442337885145.jpg)

Why on earth do the the costumes on commercials for a free phone game look less tacky and better made than those in a 150 millon dollar blockbuster?!
Now don't get me wrong, I liked the story, acting and action in Wonder Woman, but the silly costumes made it really hard to feel immersed in the movie whenever the amazons were on screen.
I think costuming in movies in general is criminally underrated, and especially in sci-fi and fantasy. I think it makes up a larger part of world-building than people give it credit for,
and it always bugs me when movies that do everything else well fails in that department.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gilbert on 07 Jun 2017, 17:52
Never watched it (and any movies recently), but Wonder Woman is a super hero(ine) movie, right?
Isn't it a requirement that costumes in super hero movies have to be ridiculous and silly, whether worn by the titular super heros or some fantastic/supernatural/whatever-not-supposed-to-be-portraited-realistically tribes?
If it's just pure fantasy/"historical" like LOTR or 300 (or say game set in a straight forward fantasy world like the one you mentioned) it would be different IMO.
After all. It is Winder Woman, a friend(?) to another lunatic who loves to wear a pair of red panties outside a tight suit.

You know, no one would be stupid enough to make say a Punisher movie to have the hero wear a shirt without the iconic large skull on it... wait... nevermind...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 07 Jun 2017, 21:33
You make a good point, Gillbert, but my complaint isn't about realism as much as aesthetics,
and I think that the costumes look boring and cheap for being in a movie with a multimillion dollar budget.
If you aren't constrained by realism, why not go all out and do something interesting and dramatic rather
than just use leftover pieces of leather stapled together?

To use some examples, the armor of Thor and the other Norse gods in the Marvel movies weren't realistic either,
but they looked like there was thought and effort put into designing them, and I could say the same of the designs
for the characters on planet Krypton in Man of Steel or the characters in Lord of the Rings too.

I had trouble telling most of the amazons apart for much of the time, and nothing about them looked even vaguely Greek.
I also found the amazon costumes jarring in Wonder Woman since all the other costumes from the WW1 era were rather accurate and well done.
I guess this might count as minor spoilers, but:
The armor for Ares looked like a ridiculous knockoff of the guy on the Skyrim cover! Also, why did he have a Victorian-era mustache in Ancient Greece?
However, this is just my opinion, and taste is subjective. But does anyone think that the amazon costumes looked beautiful or memorable? :-\
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 22 Jun 2017, 00:00
It grinds my gears when reporters write as if for three-year-olds.

This gem from CNN:

"During the celestial event, the moon will pass between the sun and the Earth, appearing to block the sun for almost an hour and a half. You can replicate an eclipse by holding a flashlight and waving your hand slowly across it."

You can replicate being a moron by sitting in front of your computer at CNN and typing slowly on it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 30 Jun 2017, 13:59
What really grinds my gears is this quote from an article about The Escapists 2 "With this gameplay upgrade comes a new graphics style, making the jump from 8-bit NES style graphics to the 16-bit Super Nintendo age."
This quote grinds my gears, because anyone who has seen The Escapists 1 would know for an absolute fact, that it DID NOT HAVE 8-BIT NES GRAPHICS!!! I mean just one look at it, and you can see it uses the same style of sprites as half a dozen SNES games! Not to mention the colour depth! >:(

I'm sorry, but I'm really pulling my hair out over the stupidity in this quote.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 11 Aug 2017, 19:58
It grinds my gears when people try to insist that a rare steak would be objectively better than a well done steak.

Apart from the fact that you could make a list longer than the Star Wars intro crawl on all the diseases you can get from poorly cooked meat, taste is subjective, and just because some prefer their steak a little raw in the middle it doesn't mean that all do.

I'm especially cross with resturants that automatcally serve any meat that I order rare without asking first, and then act as if wanting a well done steak is some act of barbary, just because I find raw meat slightly nauseating.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 11 Oct 2017, 12:49
It grinds my gears when someone sings Incy Wincy Spider, and pronounces "Again" as "Ahgen".
It doesn't even rhyme when you pronounce it like that! "Rain" only rhymes with "Again" when you pronounce it properly. If you pronounce it as "Ahgen" then you should be rhyming it with "Ben" or "Then".
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 11 Oct 2017, 13:31
@Dan That used to wind me up too. In general conversation I say "a gen" and anyone who says "a gain" really grinds my gears. But, as you correctly point out. If you're trying to rhyme with "rain" then only a moron would use "a gen"

@Blondbraid I agree with that whole heartedly. I once worked in the kitchen of s pub and chef would've personally offended if anyone asked for a well-done steak or even a medium-rare. He died about 5 years ago. I'm only now just thinking there might have been a connection.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 12 Oct 2017, 11:06
@Dan That used to wind me up too. In general conversation I say "a gen" and anyone who says "a gain" really grinds my gears. But, as you correctly point out. If you're trying to rhyme with "rain" then only a moron would use "a gen"
I am so glad I'm not the only one. For a moment there, I thought I was alone in my pettiness. (laugh)

Just to clarify though, like you I pronounce "again" as "a gen" in general conversation.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 12 Oct 2017, 11:35
It grinds my gears when someone sings Incy Wincy Spider, and pronounces "Again" as "Ahgen".
It doesn't even rhyme when you pronounce it like that! "Rain" only rhymes with "Again" when you pronounce it properly. If you pronounce it as "Ahgen" then you should be rhyming it with "Ben" or "Then".

+1!!!

This topic would so go viral on FB. It's just exactly trivial and yet triggering enough!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 12 Oct 2017, 11:36
What grinds my gears are FB posts obviously designed to be exactly trivial and yet triggering enough to go viral.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 15 Oct 2017, 00:33
It grinds my gears when people pluralise 'LEGO' as 'LEGOs'. I realise that it's an acceptable form as enough people use it (although LEGO themselves don't like it) but I grew up with LEGO as an uncountable noun so the s sounds genuinely weird to me. If I want to count them I use 'pieces' or 'bricks'.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 15 Oct 2017, 01:25
+1
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on 15 Oct 2017, 02:52
It grinds my gears when people pluralise 'LEGO' as 'LEGOs'. I realise that it's an acceptable form as enough people use it (although LEGO themselves don't like it) but I grew up with LEGO as an uncountable noun so the s sounds genuinely weird to me. If I want to count them I use 'pieces' or 'bricks'.
Absolutely agree!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 22 Jan 2018, 00:43
Progress bars that race up to 99% and then stay stuck there for 20 minutes while the installation finishes.PLUS you don't know if it's still installing or just frozen up.

I mean seriously WTF?!

(We might have had this one before. I forget. But one of these is pissing me off right now and I had to vent!)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 22 Jan 2018, 01:00
Haha yeah that was the subject I began this thread with. I totally agree with that!!! :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on 22 Jan 2018, 01:26
I'm a coeliac, which means I can't have wheat or gluten.
And it REALLY grinds my gears that gluten-free food is 3 or 4 times the price, for a SMALLER portion of the gluten equivalent.  :angry:

It's not like I woke up, and thought 'Hey, I think I'll be coeliac today, and pay extortionate prices for things that normally cost a fraction of the price.'  :angry:


EDIT:  Even something simple, like a loaf of bread...
Standard 800g loaf - £1
Gluten-free 535g loaf - £2.50
Smaller loaf, more than double the price! 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 22 Jan 2018, 01:30
Haha yeah that was the subject I began this thread with. I totally agree with that!!! :D

Thought it sounded familiar...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on 22 Jan 2018, 11:50
I'm a coeliac, which means I can't have wheat or gluten.
And it REALLY grinds my gears that gluten-free food is 3 or 4 times the price, for a SMALLER portion of the gluten equivalent.  :angry:
Here the Region (Tuscany and others, but not all) gives to coeliac people monthly vouchers to get gluten-free food.

You can use them to get bread, pasta, etc. for free in drug-stores and in designated shops. My uncle (who is coeliac) saves a lot of money this way, because – as you say – gluten-free food is quite expensive.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 28 Jan 2018, 13:45
What really grinds my gears is those times you're hungry and you are given food you don't really like. You still eat a good size serving because you don't know when you're gonna eat the next time. And just because the food wasn't good you can bet your game making a$$ you're hungry again within the hour. If it was good food, the same size would have made you full for hours!!! And that folks is what grinds my gears :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: LameNick on 30 Jan 2018, 21:45
I’m so pissed off that I resorted to writing in this thread.
To everybody stopping by, listen.. listen!! I tell you that cryptocurrency miners are grinding my gears! In fact I feel pure, genuine, concentrated hatred towards them!
I’m in need of a new good quality monitor but I can just go wank myself for the foreseeable future as I won’t be able to get hold of a GPU, at least not without selling my kidneys.
Thanks for listening and please don’t mine.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 31 Jan 2018, 02:58
Thanks for listening and please don’t mine.

Are you talking about mining new coins or hacking and stealing existing ones?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: LameNick on 31 Jan 2018, 10:40
I mean mining new coins. I’m not a cryptocurrency expert but if I understand the principle of the mechanism well, coin mining refers to using the computing power at your disposal to help maintain the blockchain and execute transactions, which is then rewarded by adding more credit of that currency to your account.
Those calculations require GPUs and with the coin mining insanity going on lately there are no GPUs available, not beyond the shitiest ones that are also absolutely horribly prized.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on 06 Feb 2018, 00:12
What grinds my gears is when people on the bus ring the bell to get off LONG before they're anywhere near their stop.  :angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 07 Feb 2018, 10:06
What grinds my gears is when people on the bus ring the bell to get off LONG before they're anywhere near their stop.  :angry:
Why is that bad?
I thought it was a good idea to let the driver know well in advance that someone wants to get off at the next stop.
I don't do that though, I prefer to wait until the stop is actually in view (so I don't accidentally get the bus to stop at a stop that I don't want to get off at), but I do want to understand why that grinds your gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 07 Feb 2018, 10:48
I’m not a bus driver but if I were I think I’d appreciate as much notice as possible. As soon as I have completely passed the stop before the one I want, I press the button. That way there’s zero chance of any ambiguity.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 07 Feb 2018, 22:55
As soon as I have completely passed the stop before the one I want, I press the button.

Me too, but for me it's more than I enjoy pushing the button and hearing the "ding!"...

Mmmmmmm... feedback...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 14 Feb 2018, 00:57
A minor grind:

I watched Alien Covenant the other day and really enjoyed it. I was conflicted about watching it or not after what a complete disaster Prometheus was but decided that if my love for the Alien movies could survive Alien: Ressurection then it was pretty buttetproof.

Anyway, the movie was good IMO: It had an interesting story with some nice mystery elements to keep me interested. The characters were interesting enough, if a little hard to keep track of. David especially was amazing (he was the only thing I liked in Prometheus).

But two little things ground my gears just a bit:

* The neutrino storm at the start: The computer alerts Warren that a neutrino burst has been detected nearby and that it will hit the ship momentarily. It grinds my gears when sci-fi movies use stuff like this but can't get it right. Neutrinos travel at the speed of light. No information can travel faster than the speed of light. So how can the computer detect the burst before it hits the ship? It can't. For the same reason that we can't put a probe near the sun to warn us when a major solar emmission threatens our planet: The warning radioed to us by the probe and the radiation from the emmission would reach us at the same time. Actually the warning would reach us a few microseconds after the radiation if you take into account the time it takes for the probe's computers to process the detection and send the warning. Either way, the warning is useless.

* The CGI blood. There were a few really shocking scenes of violence which could have been damn effective if not for the fake-looking CGI blood. How hard would it have been to blow a few packs of fake blood IRL instead of using over-blobby, over-shiny CGI blood effects? Cheaper too!

Good film nonetheless. Best Alien film since 2 IMO...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 14 Feb 2018, 01:35
Ohh i agree. Movies ruined by crappy special effects is a real disappointment. Jaws is still the best shark movie around and people have had 40 years trying to beat it! I know people say how fake it looks etc but to me it still looks damn good when you think about how old it is
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on 14 Feb 2018, 05:19
Speaking of special effects, it definitely grinds my gears when younger generations talk down classic films because it isn't CGI. They have no idea the amount of work that went into such classics. 100's of man hours using physical props, robotics, miniature models, stunt work, etc. Where as now a days most of everything you see is CGI. Actors in front of blue/green screens. It's at the point that these young ones think CGI looks real and REAL looks fake, SMH!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 14 Feb 2018, 10:07
A lot of moviemakers today seem to think that if they cram as many special effects they can in a movie it will automatically be a good movie. Storytelling and character development? "Nah just look at these cool effects":-P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on 14 Feb 2018, 16:28
Jaws is still the best shark movie around and people have had 40 years trying to beat it!
Jaws is a classic, and a truly great film.  But 47 Meters Down is the best shark movie for my money.

:P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 15 Feb 2018, 13:44
Ah never saw that. Gonna look it up. Thanks :-)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 16 Feb 2018, 12:51
Alright time to unload all of the things that really REALLY grinds my gears.
I've actually brought up a few of these things on other threads, but I think it's about time I just vented.
So I want everyone to just imagine that everything below is in block capitals.

I really hate it when people call a game 8-bit just because it has pixel art. The game clearly isn't using 256 colours, nor is it imitating an 8-bit console of any kind (not even of the fictional kind), yet they insist on calling it 8-bit!
What's worse, these games usually look closer to a 16-bit console game.

It grinds my gears how much people hate mismatched pixels. Ok, I get it, you all hate mismatched pixels. But can you accept for just one second that there are some people out there that think they look nice! And that some people use mismatched pixels out of artistic freedom and not out of an incompetent inability to use pixels "properly".
Mismatched pixels aren't even a new thing, a very good example are all of the games that used the Midway MCR-III. The sprites were all twice as detailed as the backgrounds. I admit, mismatched pixels were extremely rare until about ten years ago though.

It grinds my gears that everyone actually seems to believe that kids these days would only recognise a floppy disk as a save icon. I have never encountered any kid who thought that. If they recognise a save icon, then they recognise a floppy disk. And I'm willing to bet there are just as many old people who don't know what a floppy disk is, as there are kids who don't recognise one.
That's not to say that kids know all outdated tech. Show any kid an 8-Track and you'll always be met with confusion. But floppy disks are as embedded in culture as vinyl records (at least for now).

Which brings me onto my next thing. It grinds my gears when people say we live in a time when everyone has the shortest attention spans ever. Really? REALLY!?!
Then how do you explain Minecraft's continual relevance. If that was true, people would have moved on from that game in 2012. It's 2018 and people are still playing it like mad!
And nowadays people get so invested in a show, they marathon through it all in a single sitting!
If anything, we had a shorter attention span in the past. Remember flitting between arcade games back when they were popular?

Finally, the most recent thing that's been grinding my gears.
People have been constantly saying that Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice is lighting in a bottle. That until someone else manages to replicate its success on what many consider to be a shoe-string budget, that it's nothing more than a one time occurrence.
Except I can list 100s of games which have basically done the same thing. But of course no one will listen to that list, since they'll find irrelevant and petty reasons as to why those games don't count. Despite the fact that the only thing that does count is whether a successful game came out of such a small budget!

Ah... that feels so much better. :-D
I've been holding that all in for waaaaaaaay too long.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on 16 Feb 2018, 12:56
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan d.... breathe! (laugh)(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: BadLuckBurt on 23 Feb 2018, 15:22
Finished Tumbleweed Park last night and I don't care for the ending one bit. It's hollow, insulting and very, very cheap. Ron Gilbert is probably laughing his ass off but wth was he thinking. If he puts out another adventure game, I'll pass and stick to his 'classic' stuff.

Comparing this game to Technobabylon which I finished a few months ago, I'll be sure to recommend TB to anyone who wants to try a modern adventure game.

On a technical level, TP feels under-executed and / or underutilized. I love the backgrounds, top-notch work there from Mark Ferrari (I actually learnt about the game from watching his GDC video) but then there's the 'lighting' that sometimes shows up over characters but most of the time it just doesn't. Missed chance there in my opinion, same with non-working mirrors (in this age, really?). I really don't see why they would have visual effects in one scene but then in the next, it's as flat the character shading. Overall it just feels very inconsistent, they could've done a lot more interactivity, the CPU power is more than there these days and GPUs are probably left wondering what they should do after finishing rendering a frame in 1ms.

The story wasn't that engaging but it was interesting enough for me to want to see where it would take me, entered the factory with high expectations to only be greeted by one of the biggest disappointments I've had in a game. They have the gall to poke fun at the notorious Sierra deaths talking about how their method 'takes more effort but in the end it pays off', I had more fun following proper procedure in Police Quest and pumping the Death Angel full of lead than I had with this crap ending. If I ever play through TP again, Dolores is gonna push the button on that device for sure.
guess Sierra was right about BOOM! after all


I have always enjoyed both Sierra and LucasArts games and shit-talking your long-gone competition after all this time just feels freaking childish to me. They both did it back in the days but that was a back-and-forth thing, Epic did the same thing with Duke Nukem but it was always friendly jabs (doomed space marine, not being afraid of no quake), this felt a lot more malicious. Sierra games these days would probably just auto-save and give you the death animations, allowing you to rewind immediately.

I hardly ever make posts like these but TP definitely rubbed me the wrong way and I'd be more than happy to point out on the Ransome doll where it touched me :~(



Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 24 Feb 2018, 02:51
Wow it really must've been a horrible ending then XD
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: BadLuckBurt on 24 Feb 2018, 09:24
Wow it really must've been a horrible ending then XD

It was for me :D Just glad there's plenty of games with good endings to offset this monstrosity :P

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 25 Feb 2018, 11:37
Remember the old days. A black screen and "Thank you for playing" talk about putting energy into that ending :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: BadLuckBurt on 26 Feb 2018, 20:33
Remember the old days. A black screen and "Thank you for playing" talk about putting energy into that ending :-D

At least they had an excuse back then :D

Playing QFG4: Shadows of Darkness now, always loved that ending and John Rhys-Davies as narrator works so well
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 01 Mar 2018, 01:16
Ghost 'n' goblins ending: You must play through the game again..yeah because that game was soooo easy to beat the first time. Maybe I suck but that was one of the hardest games ever IMO :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 01 Mar 2018, 12:19
Maybe I suck but that was one of the hardest games ever IMO :-D
If you completed that game, trust me, you don't suck.
People say that Dark Souls is hard, but compared to Ghost 'n' Goblins, Dark Souls is incredibly easy.
Actually, Dark Souls is easy when compared to a lot of games. It's actually just an easy game. But I digress. Ghosts 'n' Goblins is an impossibly difficult game. I don't think I've ever gotten past the second level, let alone completed it once.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 01 Mar 2018, 14:13
Well cheating helped me ;-D what grinds my gears like hell right now is how the people i've employed says no the same or a few days before they're supposed to begin after accepting the job grrrrr
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 01 Mar 2018, 22:42
what grinds my gears like hell right now is how the people i've employed says no the same or a few days before they're supposed to begin after accepting the job grrrrr

Trust me, it's even worse when they quit right after they've finished the training.

Had a guy pull that on us and then he came in and asked where his pay was. We told him "You expect to get paid for getting trained?! You should be paying us!"

He'd broken his contract anyway by quitting without notice in which case the contract says the appropriate amount will be deducted from final payment, which was more than what he'd "earned" anyway, but it was more satisfying to say it that way.

Slight compensation for the ground gears hearing him slam the door on his way out... (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 02 Mar 2018, 00:34
Yeah that will be even worse. We have that policy too. They will only get paid for their 10 day training if they decide to continue. Best one was today. I had clearly told her how the training will be and so on...and she "misunderstood our communication" and the way she tried to sound smart with "I understand that you understood it like that" really got my blood boiling. I just thought to myself "Ooooh try to sound clever ONE more time and I will rip you to shreds you @§#-*" :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 02 Mar 2018, 03:39
she tried to sound smart with "I understand that you understood it like that"

Probably not a keeper... ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 02 Mar 2018, 08:52
Haha indeed. Oh well there will be some real ice cream enthusiasts sooner or later. How can you turn down a job where a big bonus is that you can eat as much ice cream you want for free?!?! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: BadLuckBurt on 03 Mar 2018, 12:39
Ghost 'n' goblins ending: You must play through the game again..yeah because that game was soooo easy to beat the first time. Maybe I suck but that was one of the hardest games ever IMO :-D

Oh man, blast from the past. Now I have to go and play that. Been ages since I tried, don't think I ever finished it. Wish me luck (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 03 Mar 2018, 13:45
How can you turn down a job where a big bonus is that you can eat as much ice cream you want for free?!?! :-D

I'm really interested in how that works...

Is there literally enough ice cream in the headquarter freezer that nobody could possibly run out, and/or are the boots-on-the-ground salesmen just able to write off as much product as they like and sign it off as having eaten themselves?

In the latter case I can see some leeway for scams being viable...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 03 Mar 2018, 20:46
Well I can withdraw from our big freezer and write it off as "staff ice cream" and at the office there's a store sized freezer where I put that stuff and there it's an open bar haha. They can not take stuff from their trucks. They must do an inventory every week so I will know if something goes missing. My boss will not accept me removing crazy amounts from the freezer of course but I can always take something. The best is to remove broken goods we can't sell or stuff that is about to expire. I can say that during the 2 years I've been there, that staff freezer was never empty :D My boss is a great guy though, he even allowed (Al Lowe d for us game nerds :D ) the guy I replaced to come whenever he wants to pick up free ice cream. That was a very generous parting gift I must say :) So...I control how much the foot soldiers can get
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 03 Mar 2018, 20:49
Quote
Oh man, blast from the past. Now I have to go and play that. Been ages since I tried, don't think I ever finished it. Wish me luck (laugh)


i'm too old to even try that game now. My blood pressure would go through the roof!!! :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 04 Mar 2018, 00:53
My boss is a great guy though, he even allowed the guy I replaced to come whenever he wants to pick up free ice cream. That was a very generous parting gift I must say :)

Almost as good as a flying glass elevator and the keys to the chocolate factory...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 08 Mar 2018, 02:02
What grinds my gears is websites with flash games for kids but they insist on putting the icons that link to other pages on the site RIGHT NEXT TO the game window. Kids don't have perfect mouse control and a miss-click of a matter of a few pixels sends them to another page without any warning or check-box and all progress in the game is lost.

Also: painting games where they expect the kid to be able to click pixel-perfect on areas that are like 2 pixels wide. And often the ERASE-ALL icon is either ON the painting area or a few pixels away from it and OF COURSE has no warning or check-box if miss-clicked. It just instantly erases all work done so far and is NOT undoable...

GRRRRR... and I'm talking about professional sites like Disney, Nickelodeon, BBC-Kids, PBS-Kids...etc

Don't these people EVER test their games with actual kids?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on 08 Mar 2018, 09:21
Kids don't have perfect mouse control
"Kids", right... (roll) Come on, admit that you are still sore after losing your record at that Frozen game! ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 08 Mar 2018, 09:52
Kids don't have perfect mouse control
"Kids", right... (roll) Come on, admit that you are still sore after losing your record at that Frozen game! ;)

Hahaha.... revenge is best served cold!

How's it taste? (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on 09 Mar 2018, 08:41
(laugh)
Well, it it was too good an opportunity to miss. ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Buckethead on 09 Mar 2018, 08:51

You had me at:
What grinds my gears is websites with flash games...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on 05 Apr 2018, 08:08
When people have programming issues and post "every time I do X, it does Y". DUH.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 15 Apr 2018, 00:37
What grinds my gears is when an old mate comes over to Japan after a long while and we go out with them as a group and at some inevitable point, usually sooner than later, someone says "Let's go to karaoke!".

This means the next 4-5 hours just sitting around while everyone sings pretty much the same songs they always do. I mean, it's fun enough, but what I'm really there for is to catch up with my mate which is impossible in karaoke.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 15 Apr 2018, 05:10
@Mandle Just last week a mate of mine came over to Japan with his fiancée and we went out for dinner and drinks. At first we were considering karaoke but we ended up just going to a rooftop bar and talking. I like karaoke but, for the same reasons you mention, I was glad we didn’t do that.

Mind you, it is a guaranteed way to get a private table in Shinjuku on a Saturday night.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: ClickClickClick on 18 Apr 2018, 02:01
One of the NON-REBINDABLE hotkeys in OBS (a screen streaming/recording software) is Ctrl-F. What could possibly go wrong with that... And what does it do? It squashes your source into a small box. Which you then only notice after the fact. Argh.

Best thing about it: It WAS rebindable a few versions back. Progress, ladies and gentlemen! Someone thought it was a good idea to force it on the users.

/rant
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 24 Apr 2018, 20:45
What grinds my gears: You're finally gonna get your first good paycheck in quite some time...and at the same time...the f*****g bill for the car tax is sent,  375$ gone immediately. GRRRRRR it's way too high IMO :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 25 Apr 2018, 01:21
What grinds my gears: You're finally gonna get your first good paycheck in quite some time...and at the same time...the f*****g bill for the car tax is sent,  375$ gone immediately. GRRRRRR it's way too high IMO :D

Same thing happens to me all the time here but it's the city tax.

As soon as I start to get a bit ahead with my savings the friggin' city tax shows up and wipes it out.

And then usually at the same time the people from NHK (the national TV station) show up asking me for money when I don't even freakin' watch NHK and I also pay for cable TV which includes NHK and they wonder why I tell them to get lost.

Seeing as I get my NHK channel through my cable package it would be simpler to just block it when I don't pay the door-to-door beggers but it's the law here that everyone must have access to NHK because it's supposed to be indestructible in the event of a major catastrophe. Of course the real reason is that if it were an option to not pay then 50% of people would just do without it and the government would lose money. So why not just tack it on to another tax then instead of sending poor slobs door-to-door to mostly hostile receptions from the people they disturb. They even show up sometimes at like 7-8PM when people are eating dinner/relaxing after work. Because if these people didn't have this stupid job the unrealistically low unemployment rate would go up. The Japanese government hires ridiculous numbers of people for jobs that could be handled by a fraction these days just to keep unemployment down and this is paid for out of, guess what, our freakin' taxes!

In Australia I went to get my driver's licence renewed. It took 15 minutes from in the door until finished, including the eye-test and photograph. There were only like 7-8 staff in the whole office. Everything is handled by computer so you don't even need to fill out a form on paper. A greeter meets you at the door with a tablet where they input your needs and give you your number. There were about 6 numbers ahead of mine so I figured like a 30 minute to an hour wait but the numbers ticked down like one per minute and then I was called to the desk where all my data was already on the worker's screen.

Same experience at another government office but it was only 10 minutes there start to finish.

In Japan there are like 20-30 people working in any government office branch. You have to fill out the same bloody form every time you go in, then line up to hand in the form, then get your number and then wait for usually 1-2 hours until called while they go over the same information on the form that should already be in their system. No face-to-face worker has a computer at their station. They are still working directly off the paper forms you hand in and any other info on you they physically get from their massive banks of filing cabinets. You can always see staff in the back constantly filing and retrieving papers. Then there is a row of people on computers entering the data anyway. Then you are told to wait for like 6 weeks until your request is processed, after which time you must physically go back in to the office, get another number, and wait yet again until finally the whole thing is done.

Another amazing thing about this process is that I'm sure I fill in certain sections on the form differently every time I do them because the field description is so vague like "Length Of Stay". To this day I have no idea if that means the total time I have been in Japan, the time since I last filled out the form, or how much time I have wasted in their offices. This and many other sections like "Gross Worth Of Company" etc. I just fill in with random numbers and have never been asked about which shows they don't even look at and/or don't even care about these sections. Are they just in there so that the form fills an A4 size paper?!

Of course the only place where this isn't true and your business is handled quickly, painlessly, and digitally is, guess where? Yup: The friggin' tax office when you come in to pay. Funny isn't it that when it's them getting money from me everything moves along smoothly!

Now that I'm starting to sound like this guy:
I'll just finish with:

BLAH!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 25 Apr 2018, 10:02
Ohhh government procedures...how I love them XD Haha I was thinking the same thing just a little while ago. When I need something from  an office there's a 2 month waiting time. When they want something I should've done it yesterday
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 25 Apr 2018, 13:01
Ohhh government procedures...how I love them XD Haha I was thinking the same thing just a little while ago. When I need something from  an office there's a 2 month waiting time. When they want something I should've done it yesterday

...and there's only a bleedin' lizard in the bidet, and half the rooms are double-booked...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 25 Apr 2018, 14:46
Haha yeah and don't even dare to suggest to them to step out of the box and update the routines they've had since the 70's :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 26 Apr 2018, 22:18
Oh and we can add a dentist bill now too....GAH!!!! POOR AGAIN!!!!!!! XD
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on 10 Jun 2018, 21:06
People who plead poverty and say they struggle to get by and yet have numerous cats and dogs...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 10 Jun 2018, 23:53
People who plead poverty and say they struggle to get by and yet have numerous cats and dogs...

Ah, but are they the same cats and dogs week-to-week? (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 15 Jun 2018, 09:35
What grind my gears is the behavior of many people on Facebook.

A friend of mine started off a funny incident story with the phrase "Oh my Golliwogs!".

Somebody posted what the word "Golliwogs" "actually means": That it is a racist slur in the UK and should not be used.

I posted that it doesn't "actually mean" that and only means that when used in that context otherwise it refers to a childrens' doll or a delicious chocolate biscuit. I went on to say that because of over-sensitivity and out-of-control PC ideals that pretty soon we are not going to be able to use any word without offending someone or other.

This person accused me of a passive-agressive attack on them when they were just trying to "warn a friend about a term that could offend some people", and told me to "deal with your issues, dude!"

I wanted to ask them: if it is true that the word "Golliwog" is so taboo in the UK then what have they renamed the dolls to? Oh, wait, they haven't renamed them because the word is only offensive when used as a racist slur against a black person. (And even then I suspect that this slur is so archaic that anyone using it in 2018 would probably get laughed at. This isn't "Love Thy Neighbor".)

I never got to reply though because my friend deleted the whole post to avoid further conflict.

Fair enough.

BUT THEN she posts another thing saying that she will be more careful to look up the full meaning of words before posting in the future so as to avoid insulting anyone.

She won't, but that's not what grinds my gears. She is bowing down to this SJW (who is white of course), conceding their ridiculous point, and walking away still thinking that it is words and not the context they are used in that are in the wrong.

The dumbing-down of our moral responses into knee-jerk reactions to trigger words with no concern to the context in which they are used.

THIS GRINDS MY GEARS!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: ManicMatt on 15 Jun 2018, 11:21
It is my understanding that if someone was called a golliwog, they are referring to the dolls, which is unacceptable. The dolls themselves are considered to be racist by most people these days, and I only ever see them in places like Cornwall in small shops. They haven't changed the name because the dolls are generally considered taboo in the first place. So the word in itself as far as I'm aware isn't racist, hence why I have been typing it, it's the name of those dolls.

I haven't heard the word in any other context, in my experience, so I would be confused by someone saying "Oh my golliwogs", and take it to be as random as saying "oh my Rice Crispies!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 15 Jun 2018, 11:47
I’m pretty much in agreement that this culture of getting offended by everything is reaching critical levels of insanity these days. And my gears have been ground plenty of times for this reason. That said, the term Golliwog is a difficult one. Yes it is the name of the dolls but it has been used as a slur in the UK for many years and I even remember being gently advised to be careful using that word even when I was a kid, so it’s not a recent SJW-era thing.

But yeah, this person posting on your friend’s wall is just a busy-body.

I’m by no means a “lefty liberal snowflake”. I do tend to side (for want ofvs better word) with those people more, though. But I’m not there yet. It’s funny. I used to tell such terrible racist and everything-ist jokes and justify it by saying it was an appreciation of the joke, the wordplay, rather than racism. These days I still like a risky gag but I’m far less likely to tell those jokes than I once was. I think that means I’ve grown.

But there are still a lot of things I will laugh at that some extreme PC brigadiers would delete me for. Progress is slow and I think it’s good that some people are keeping a check on what is okay or not okay to say. But there has to be some wriggle-room. Using the word ‘Gollywog’ as an exclamation of surprise, is something that those people shouldn’t get really upset about.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 15 Jun 2018, 13:55
I would be confused by someone saying "Oh my golliwogs", and take it to be as random as saying "oh my Rice Crispies!"

Using the word ‘Gollywog’ as an exclamation of surprise, is something that those people shouldn’t get really upset about.

I'm pretty sure she meant it as a play on "Oh my golly gosh" and I thought it was really quite cute and funny and (after it was called out) obviously not at all in any context that could make it a racist slur.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: LameNick on 16 Jun 2018, 01:25
Frankly this moronic wave of constant effort to rummage through the media and internet and seep through every word trying to figure out the worst possible interpretation regardless of context is really getting on mi nerves. 
There are plenty of things I hear daily that evoke painful thoughts and memories in me, but it never occurred to me to take offense and blame the source, unless actually their true intent was malicious.  And the possibility that someone could potentially be a sack of shit full of hatred with retarded discriminatory convictions shouldn’t be a reason to bully everyone who isn’t scared enough to filter every word through the latest strict SJ protocol. People should be on the save side when giving out gun permits not when deciding whether someone should be allowed to express themselves.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on 16 Jun 2018, 03:24
I'm offended by this thread!   

Haha, sorry, I couldn't resist ;)   

I do agree though it has gotten quite ridiculous this day in age. It's summer time enough with the "snowflakes", oops, better be careful or I might offend someone, smh!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 16 Jun 2018, 23:34
From what I've seen, Golliwog dolls do look like racist caricatures and blackface/minstrel type of designs that aren't acceptable today and I can clearly see why many people would find them offensive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golliwog

While there are some pretty dumb arguments made around different words or images or cultural appropriation, insults like "SJW" and "snowflake" has also been used to dismiss real bullying and legitimate grievances.
To me, avoiding slurs never felt like a sacrifice, and requests asking for people to take others into consideration in any public space are there to make people feel safe and welcome.
Why would it be any worse than being asked to keep quiet in a library or leave leave a bus seat free for the elderly and disabled?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 17 Jun 2018, 00:32
It’s so hard to keep up with, though. People seems to be constantly finding new things to be offended by and it’s getting unreasonable. Of course anything racist is bound to be unacceptable, but then you get things like this: (https://twitter.com/weismanjake/status/993697668315529216?s=21)
Quote from: “Twitter Guy”
One of the best ways to hurt an artistic person is to wait until right after they finish a long project and then ask them "so what's next?"

...and all the back-patting twitter hugs from everyone in the replies who have just realised that it offends them too, while all secretly wishing they had been the first one to have thought of this new angle, this new way to acquire twitter hugs.

Absolutely moronic. I even got blocked by someone because of that thread.

So no, giving up your seat for an elderly lady is not a problem. But when you wake up every morning and find that actually, now the done thing is to not use a seat in the first place, just in case an old lady needs one.... okay, so i’ll Stand... but now apparently old ladies don’t like seeing people standing because it reminds them of their lack of agility and they get upset. So now we have to use a seperate carriage. Before you know it, just mentioning trains will trigger all the old people, but more than that it will trigger everybody else as well because we all want to get offended on everyone else’s behalf.

I will happily avoid racial slurs and I am in solidarity with everyone of all genders and sexual preferences. But there is a point where I will defend my right to ask an artist whose work admire “what’s next?” And I will shout the word TRAIN in your face whenever the above hypothetical scenario occurs.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 17 Jun 2018, 03:45
Wow, Stu. I'm reading that feed and, those people attacking you in there are just... I have no other word but... WOW!

Also: you are now officially a hero of mine for this:

Quote
Stuart Forbes @StuartForbes
May 10

I dabble in creative attempts, but no I guess I can’t presume to call myself an artist. I’ve clearly demonstrated that I lack the imagination to turn a simple question into a beautiful work of abstract expressionism.

(laugh)(laugh)(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 17 Jun 2018, 03:56
Yeah, that’s when she blocked me. Haha.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 17 Jun 2018, 04:03
Yeah, that’s when she blocked me. Haha.

Hahahahaha! I would have had to have said at least "touche"...

...before blocking you.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 17 Jun 2018, 10:09
I don't see how the twitter example has anything to do with political correctness, and extremely sensitive artists are by no means a new phenomenon. As long as there have been art, there have been artists interpreting everything that isn't immediate praise as bullying, and others, often with artistic aspirations themselves, jump on because it means no one can criticize what they like either. I think this is more about artists with inflated egos and fandoms rather than any form of pc-culture.

I think it's worth remembering that whenever you think that pc-culture is stupid, the opposing side will do something even stupider. For example, in Sweden there's a treat made of butter, cacao, sugar and oatmeal rolled into a ball that's nowadays called chocolate-ball (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havregrynskugle), but in the 1950's they used to call it n-word ball. When this was changed for obvious reasons, lots of old people complained about the name change, but most people today do prefer the name that actually describe what the chocolate balls taste like and does't imply that the balls were created by castrating a black man.

Likewise, when several people wanted to expand the Swedish language by introducing a third, gender neutral pronoun, lots of people protested and put up tons of ridiculous straw-man arguments about "shall we be forced to burn all the old books with the old pronouns in them" and "kids won't be allowed to be girls and boys anymore", none of which ever happened when the third pronoun became popular. People in Sweden didn't stop using he or she as pronouns, most people simply discovered that having a gender-neutral pronoun is a good option to have for situations when you want to adress both men and women at the same time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 19 Jun 2018, 13:58
On the one hand, I completely understand why that person posted what Golliwog meant. The person seemed to be trying to be helpful, but their response to you was completely out of order. It was THAT person who was being passive-aggressive, you were simply correcting them.
I've actually heard people complain to me about the word crackers being offensive, as that's what black people call white people in America. But that won't stop me from using the word, because A: that's what we call those things we pull apart at Christmas, and B: what else am I supposed to call people who crack games?

She is bowing down to this SJW (who is white of course)
It grinds my gears when people use the word SJW. People use it too much to dismiss others. I've heard people who certainty are NOT an SJW being called an SJW, just because they say things that other people disagree with. The world is starting to become overrun with SJWJWs who call everyone SJWs!
These are the same people who claim everything is becoming offensive, and I hate it when people are easily offended about other people apparently being easily offended! And Facebook is full of people who are trying to find every excuse to be offended about easily offended people!
What's worse, is that I've not seen a single person notice this meta trend! :~(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 19 Jun 2018, 14:48
There's too damn much pc now in the world and it makes me sick. We will have generations who will be afraid of everything. I read about a woman who wanted to ban that book/story...which one is it. The sleeping beauty? The one where she wakes up by a kiss from a prince. The woman thought that the message frpm that story is that it's ok to take advantage of passed out women...come on...really?!? I am so sick of that stuff. People who do bad stuff will do it no matter what book you ban.

Oh and the fact that people still refer to each other by colour is just stupid...some people act like we're not even the same species...who gives a crap if a cat is white or black or whatever? It's still a cat. Even though cat's don't have different culture like humans, we are still all humans. Racism is stupid. It's actually not that difficult to just tolerate each other but many people won't even try it. No it's better to immediately hate someone because we are different. I will never understand why we can't just leave each other in peace instead of in pieces. That my good people, is what grinds my gears :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 19 Jun 2018, 16:57
It grinds my gears when people use the word SJW. People use it too much to dismiss others. I've heard people who certainty are NOT an SJW being called an SJW, just because they say things that other people disagree with. The world is starting to become overrun with SJWJWs who call everyone SJWs!
These are the same people who claim everything is becoming offensive, and I hate it when people are easily offended about other people apparently being easily offended! And Facebook is full of people who are trying to find every excuse to be offended about easily offended people!
What's worse, is that I've not seen a single person notice this meta trend! :~(
I couldn't agree more! SJW is so broadly applied that it's practically a meaningless term.

There's too damn much pc now in the world and it makes me sick. We will have generations who will be afraid of everything. I read about a woman who wanted to ban that book/story...which one is it. The sleeping beauty? The one where she wakes up by a kiss from a prince. The woman thought that the message frpm that story is that it's ok to take advantage of passed out women...come on...really?!? I am so sick of that stuff. People who do bad stuff will do it no matter what book you ban.
Unless that woman is a high up political leader with a huge following, I don't see how she could possibly ban that book, and I don't think random opinions of a random person alone will never be a threat to free speech.

Many complain about too much political correctness, but the opposite is far worse, because when racist and sexist jokes are commonly accepted, racists and misogynists will feel that their views are justified and some of them will feel emboldened to act on their views. I have seen so many fandoms and communities that could have been great be ruined by bullying, girls being automatically harassed and threatened just because they are girls and anyone who isn't white gets barraged with racist slurs. This is one of the few communities I've found where I actually feel welcome enough to share my thoughts and my work without risking being bullied and harassed, and this is also why I am wary of comments complaining about pc culture going to far, because I have seen too many others use such words as an excuse for advocating threats and harassment directed towards queer people, women, people of color or anyone that is part of a minority.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 19 Jun 2018, 18:49
I just know that the person behind the labels and colours is what matters the most to me. Nice and respectful people are always welcome in my life.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 19 Jun 2018, 22:09
It's lamentable that competitive trash talk in a competitive environment becomes harassment when someone of feminine sensibilities is thrown into the mix.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 19 Jun 2018, 22:38
It's lamentable that competitive trash talk in a competitive environment becomes harassment when someone of feminine sensibilities is thrown into the mix.
This is what I meant when I say I'm weary of complaints about pc culture. Most women can tell the difference between harassment and mere trash talk, and not all men feel comfortable hearing racist or homophobic slurs, and it's tiresome to see people dismissed as oversensitive when they have legitimate grievances. I know plenty of women who have not only faced severe harassment and bullying, but also stalking, rape threats and threats of severe violence, and many men who have faced homophobic insults and similar threats just for standing up to women or speaking up against racist comments. It might be easy for somebody who have never experienced any such threats to dismiss it as mere words, but people who are born as women, as LGBTQ or as an ethnic minority have been made to learn early on that they risk facing violence just for who they are, that others like them have become victims of horrible crimes for letting their guard down, and there is too often little in the way of telling if a bigoted joke is just going to stay a joke or if if the person behind it have something more sinister in mind. So while to some, it's just mean jokes, to others it's a stark reminder that there are people out there who sees them as less than human.

And if it's anything else that grinds my gears, it's that what used to be a fun thread about everyday annoyances has devolved into a sad discussion on "SJWs".
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 19 Jun 2018, 23:13
Oh, the harassment is real in many cases. Not the physical kind which pretty much never happens, but real verbal harassment. The nail that sticks out gets hammered.

It's a bunch of guys trying to shoot each other in the head, and the culture is pretty much at the level of discussing the unbelievable size of Nemo's mom's rear end. In comes Sally the friendly explorer, saying "hey, guys" in a squeaky and irrationally optimistic voice. Its as if a lamb walks into the lion's den. There's a moment of silence and then all hell breaks loose. What used to be namecalling from everyone to everyone else immediately turns into same from everyone to the new person, because they don't fit in. It's an ancient ritual. The new member is tested to see if they can measure up to the group. But Sally doesn't know this, cannot know this.

So yes it's lamentable that these guys can't put themselves in Sally's shoes. Now they feel that they have lost their forum for the discussion of the frankly distressing geological scale of Nemo's mom's butt, just because of Sally. They leave this community to find another that might be less censored and probably even more crass, and Sally is left alone trying to open a dialogue with the nazis in a WW2 game. And no one is happy.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 20 Jun 2018, 03:13
It really grinds my gears when every work day in a week is a beautiful sunny day (because I can't fully enjoy it) and every day off is bleak and rainy (because then I'll just stay home).

It also grinds my gears when every work day in a week is bleak and rainy (because I have to go out in it) and every day off is a beautiful sunny day (because then I have no excuse to just stay home).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on 20 Jun 2018, 03:33
It really grinds my gears when every work day in a week is a beautiful sunny day (because I can't fully enjoy it) and every day off is bleak and rainy (because then I'll just stay home).

It also grinds my gears when every work day in a week is bleak and rainy (because I have to go out in it) and every day off is a beautiful sunny day (because then I have no excuse to just stay home).

Haha, so very true my friend, so very true!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 20 Jun 2018, 13:50
A game maker's best friend is rain :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 20 Jun 2018, 16:15
A game maker's best friend is rain :-D
This is why Sweden has such a strong game industry. :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 20 Jun 2018, 18:08
Jag håller med dig ;-D (I agree with you)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 21 Jun 2018, 10:39
How about slow loading GUIs on anything like phones, consoles, computers, it's just a few pictures and some text! It's as if we're constantly kept in a state of crapiness!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on 21 Jun 2018, 10:59
61 pages and still no one has solved the riddle.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on 21 Jun 2018, 11:10
What grinds my gears, is when shops only have 1 till open when there's a big queue, and keep the other 10 tills closed.  :angry:
What's the point in having multiple tills, when they don't get used?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 21 Jun 2018, 12:25
What grinds my gears, is when shops only have 1 till open when there's a big queue, and keep the other 10 tills closed.  :angry:
What's the point in having multiple tills, when they don't get used?
It's because they're understaffed, and the staff are struggling just to keep the shelves stocked and the prices up to date.
Although I have to agree with you. What IS the point of having multiple tills if they never get used? If you don't intend to ever hire more than ten people, don't have ten tills! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: ManicMatt on 21 Jun 2018, 13:30
These companies want you to use the self service, so they can hire less people, which is exactly what has happened. I guess having more tills is useful for breakdowns and Christmas time when they hire temps, but I absolutely refuse to use self service, and in the case of some shops I've been in where NO tills were open, I made the on hand staff member scan everything through, and if they start trying to teach me how to use it I'd tell them not to bother.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 21 Jun 2018, 16:17
It grinds the hell out of my gears as well and also when you only have 1 or 2 items you need to buy and the person in front of you has their whole damn cart full of stuff and won't even consider to let you go before them. I always do that myself if I have a lot of stuff
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on 21 Jun 2018, 20:21
Man, I sooo agree with this. Reason I despise going to Wal-mart. 20 tills and on a regular basis maybe 3 are open so you are usually forced to use the self check-out and of course as Mouth of war said you have to wait on inconsiderate people with a full or multiple full carts while you just want to check-out your 1 or 2 items, grrr!!!:angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 21 Jun 2018, 21:10
Yeah, sometimes I ask if I can go ahead because "I'm in a hurry" usually it's ok. Sometimes it's totally to your advantage to look like a criminal :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 21 Jun 2018, 21:16
Every time I use a self service checkout, something goes wrong and a member of staff has to fix it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 21 Jun 2018, 22:24
I never liked self-service checkouts, I always end up paranoid that I'll forget to scan something and they'll think I'm trying to shoplift, plus I've always detested self-service as a concept, it's just a lazy way for the greedy cheapskates who run the place to cut corners while pretending to be more modern and effective.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on 22 Jun 2018, 02:59
Also what really grinds my gears is when something is blocking your lane, a car pulled over by the police or broke down on the curb, so you kindly put on your blinker to change to the other lane when everyone behind you does the same and darts around you not allowing you to therefore having to stop and wait for the inconsiderate people to finally clear the way so you can finally change lanes. SMDH!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 22 Jun 2018, 09:35
Oh don't even get me started on traffic stuff. Not much can piss me off faster than morons in traffic, people who don't keep their distance, those who must drive past you when the 2 lane road is just about to turn into 1 lane. People who always drive a lot slower than the speed limit on streets where you can't drive padt them. Those who just step on it at an intersection so that you must hit the brakes or smash into them. Sometimes I would like to have a keyboard inside and everything I type would appear on a screen in the back window...oh that would be so great :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 22 Jun 2018, 11:34
Every morning here in Japan I see cars racing through the red light at the same intersection so long after the lights have changed that they are dodging pedestrians already walking out onto the crossing. One time I even pulled back a schoolboy by the shoulder who they wouldn't have seen over their bonnet in time.

I have spoken to police I see on the street to report this intersection and advise that they put a patrolman there from 8AM every morning until 10AM. But this never happens.

Meanwhile my wife and I get stopped and handed a warning ticket for riding our bicycles side-by-side on a country road with absolutely no traffic as far as the eye can see.

Gives me such a warm fuzzy feeling every time I pay my city taxes.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dayowlron on 22 Jun 2018, 12:40
I hate the ones that drive 80 mph to get in front of you then slow down to 50 mph.
There is also a place where 2 lanes meet up with the other 3 lanes from the right then just up ahead about 100 feet the right lane exits and its an exit i have to use to get to work. So i have about 100 feet to move over 2 lanes and there is always someone in the far right that doesnt want to exit so they choose then to move over so any opening in the traffic they take. They had at least a few miles to get in the correct lane while i have 100 feet to move over 2 lanes. (hope i explained this well enough)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 22 Jun 2018, 19:45
Every time I use a self service checkout, something goes wrong and a member of staff has to fix it.
You ever had it give you the wrong change? Or none at all?
I've seen that happen TWICE!
Once to my mother, and once to my father. Both times the staff had terrible manners, thinking they were just out to steal.
Both completely different stores as wells.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on 22 Jun 2018, 21:17
These companies want you to use the self service, so they can hire less people, which is exactly what has happened. I guess having more tills is useful for breakdowns and Christmas time when they hire temps, but I absolutely refuse to use self service, and in the case of some shops I've been in where NO tills were open, I made the on hand staff member scan everything through, and if they start trying to teach me how to use it I'd tell them not to bother.
I prefer self check-out actually.  I can handle my own items.  I just hate long lines.
Oh don't even get me started on traffic stuff. Not much can piss me off faster than morons in traffic
Same here!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 22 Jun 2018, 23:10
Self-checkout machines grind my gears too. I know the it’s become a bit cliché to joke about ‘unexpected item in the bagging area’ but when the only item in the bagging area is a frigging bag you know something is wrong with this technology. I much prefer a human cashier to serve me... and I don’t even like people.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 22 Jun 2018, 23:12
I much prefer a human cashier to serve me... and I don’t even like people.

Also you live in a country where cashiers almost never deviate from the script.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 22 Jun 2018, 23:33
I much prefer a human cashier to serve me... and I don’t even like people.

Also you live in a country where cashiers almost never deviate from the script.
oh god yeah. Don’t get me started on the cashiers here. They’ll ask a question and then don’t even listen to my answer before moving onto the next step of the transaction. Or they’ll tell me the total price of the shopping before I’ve had a chance to tell them I want to buy a coffee and pay some bills when I’m clearly waving a handful of utility bills and looking at the coffee menu going ’ummmm’

I’ve worked in a corner shop, for six years. I know it can get repetitive but damn me Japan does repetition very very well. It’s how they learn everything in school. It’s why they can listen to the same peice of music, or even the same 10-second jingle over and over and over again all day long. I would go mental if I worked in “Bicu bicu bicu Bic Camera”
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 23 Jun 2018, 00:02
I would go mental if I worked in “Bicu bicu bicu Bic Camera”

Hahahaha! Yeah, and how about the electronic chimes noise whenever someone enters or leaves a convenience store? At rush hour, like 8AM-9AM that thing just keeps going and going as if some AGS game dev set the audio to play on repeat by mistake.

Even as a customer in there for 5 minutes max I feel like finding the speaker and ripping it out of the wall!!!

I guess maybe it's like a bad smell. If you're constantly in it you just stop noticing?

Another thing about those in-store jingles: Why do they even have them?! Why are they using their advertising jingle in their store that I'm already in?!

Also, it cracks me up when I go to the supermarket and they are playing the Indiana Jones theme at high volume as their Musak!

I made up some lyrics that I sing along to it, much to my wife's shame:

"O-KAIMONO!...BOKEN-DA!...O-KAIMONO!...SU-BA-RASHIKU!...O-KAIMONO!...BOKEN-DAAA!...O-KAIMONO! KAIMONO! KAIMONO-DAZE!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 23 Jun 2018, 19:29
How about Windows 10 reverting settings every time it updates! Some games are impossible to play if the laptop's trackpad is disabled when a keyboard key is pressed. You can't do the old WASD and mouse! I keep having to switch it off! WHY?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on 23 Jun 2018, 20:50
How about Windows 10 reverting settings every time it updates! Some games are impossible to play if the laptop's trackpad is disabled when a keyboard key is pressed. You can't do the old WASD and mouse! I keep having to switch it off! WHY?!
Budget cuts. Low quality programming.

Or maybe it resets telemetry settings too?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 24 Jun 2018, 10:34
Because they want you to use the product the way they want it to work! Don't be so independent! :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 27 Jun 2018, 14:55
Maybe I'm sensitive now but what really grinds my gears is when someone has written a really long post in a forum (that can also grind my gears if the point they want to make could've been done in the last 2 sentences or so) and people must quote the entire post only to say "I totally agree" not even adding something to the post...ooooh how it grinds my gears. :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 27 Jun 2018, 15:48
Maybe I'm sensitive now but what really grinds my gears is when someone has written a really long post in a forum (that can also grind my gears if the point they want to make could've been done in the last 2 sentences or so) and people must quote the entire post only to say "I totally agree" not even adding something to the post...ooooh how it grinds my gears. :-D
I totally agree
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 27 Jun 2018, 17:28
Maybe I'm sensitive now but what really grinds my gears is when someone has written a really long post in a forum (that can also grind my gears if the point they want to make could've been done in the last 2 sentences or so) and people must quote the entire post only to say "I totally agree" not even adding something to the post...ooooh how it grinds my gears. :-D
I totally agree

I disagree
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 27 Jun 2018, 18:22
Haha I knew that was gonna happen when I wrote that. "Someone WILL quote this" it was a short post though so nothing to worry about :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on 28 Jun 2018, 11:31
Haha I knew that was gonna happen when I wrote that. "Someone WILL quote this" it was a short post though so nothing to worry about :D

I see what you did there and kind of agree!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 29 Jun 2018, 15:13
It grinds my gears when I have to endure "creative" DVD menus in order to watch a movie.
You'd think not making the default text white and the text on the option you've chosen highlighted in pale yellow would be an easy thing to do, but I've seen it in far too many menus, alongside nearly unreadable fonts and blaring music looping in an annoying 15 second loop repeating endlessly until you've found the right language option. And far too many DVD also have irritating animations swishing by whenever you pick an option.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 29 Jun 2018, 16:12
It grinds my gears when I have to endure "creative" DVD menus in order to watch a movie.
You'd think not making the default text white and the text on the option you've chosen highlighted in pale yellow would be an easy thing to do, but I've seen it in far too many menus, alongside nearly unreadable fonts and blaring music looping in an annoying 15 second loop repeating endlessly until you've found the right language option. And far too many DVD also have irritating animations swishing by whenever you pick an option.

OHHHH!!! THIS SOOOOO GRINDS MY GEARS AS WELL!!!

Isn't it just amazing when you have a menu with two text options and two colors for the text except you don't know which color means "activate" and which means "ignore" until you try some trial and error?

It's also as wonderful as a big pile of #%$* when the menu cutscenes actually SPOIL major scenes in the movie you are just about to FRIGGIN' WATCH!!!

Also: Don't you just love it when a DVD that you paid money for has an unskipable trailer section at the start?!

I can understand this on rental DVDs but I would think that part of the price I just paid to buy the damn thing would include the right to just skip the advertising, right?!

I even own a few DVDs that were thoughtful enough to include an unskipable trailer for... THIS DVD'S MOVIE!!! The only way to skip is to fast forward, so I gotta close my eyes for the time that I'm guessing it takes to get past the spoilers in the trailer.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 03 Jul 2018, 10:44
I don’t know if ‘Grinds my gears’ is the right place for this. Maybe we need a ‘what makes me sick’ thread.

I don’t get why people post and share abuse videos on Facebook. Usually they’re accompanied by captions like ‘this is sick, please share’. But my question is what good does sharing it do other than to upset people who follow you on Facebook? People who share these things do so because they rightly find it disturbing and must feel like it’s helping somehow. But how?

I consider myself quite difficult to offend. I can stomach some pretty graphic stuff. But some things are just beyond sick and I find it so weird that otherwise normal intelligent people might think that it’s somehow necessary to share something so horrific to their friends, some of whom may be extremely sensitive to certain types of abuse or violence.

I’m posting this because a friend of mine posted a video which just appeared on my timeline unsolicited and started autoplaying. I’ll describe it in spoiler tags below but it almost brought me to tears moments before I was about to teach a kids class.

Basically it’s a video of a mother brutally whacking her small baby with a pillow.

The only good thing to come out of the fact that I nearly cried and felt sick to my stomach is that I guess it means I’m not a psychopath.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 03 Jul 2018, 11:29
@Stupot :~( Jesus, I would ask that person why they thought I would want to see such a thing.

And ahhhhhhhh, Facebook... That's a whole Grinds My Gears thread in itself right there.

I have been on social media of one kind or another basically since I got the internet in 1998 or so...

And I have ended up quitting all of them. Which is why, when Facebook came along, I didn't even consider joining until I needed it as a means to stay in touch with friends in other countries easily. For this purpose it is awesome!

But then, of course, I got curious and started reading and then commenting on other people's posts. I should have known this was a mistake after having seen what always ends up happening with social media over and over again.

And, as usual, it devolved into a stress-creating pattern for me where I would see friends sharing the stupidest and most obviously made-up videos and such. When I try to show them that this information, which they seem to be basing their real-life worldview on, is fake, and even provide proof that it has been debunked and even that believing it can cause real harm, I am often met with either an angry response from someone defending the rubbish, or a comment like "So, it's fake? So what? Why do you want to spoil the fun for everyone else?"

I mean, are we really in a world where real and fake don't matter anymore as long as it's something to believe in?!

I'm talking about really stupid stuff like "sun-eating": The belief that if you stare at the sun for a certain amount of time each day you will eventually not need to eat food anymore because your eyes will absorb all the nutrients from sunlight that your body needs.

I saw a friend share a video about this and say they were going to give it a try.

I posted telling them that all they are going to end up doing is damaging their eyesight, potentially forever. And, OMG, so many angry responses telling me that just because I didn't understand it doesn't mean it's not true and that I should "open my mind" instead of just rejecting new possibilities.

The friend in question eventually deleted the post and I talked them out of trying this dangerous idea. Who are the trolls making these videos with the obvious end-goal being to hurt stupid people's eyesight?!

Another one was a video encouraging people to go out and wander in the forest and encounter wild animals like bears as a life-changing and uplifting experience.

I posted for people to please remember that wild animals might have their own agendas other than becoming an uplifting experience for human beings.

I still sometimes get likes for that post, which actually gives me a little bit of hope but... seriously... GRIIIIIIND...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on 03 Jul 2018, 13:31
I haven’t come across Sun-eating yet but that is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. I wonder if that was invented by Trump supporters to explain why he looked directly at the eclipse that time.

One thing that gets me is that there are genuine flat-Earth believers out there. If it wasn’t so scary it would be fascinating. It’s not the fact that they think the Earth might be flat that gets me. It’s the fact that they seem to genuinely believe it without any sense of irony or tongue-in-cheekness. I really struggle to believe that there’s not some part of them who’s just going along with it for a bit of fun.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on 04 Jul 2018, 03:45
And what about all these ridiculous "challenges" that keep popping up?! Our youth is just brainwashed. They will try anything for attention even if it can be fatal! Hoping their video will go "viral" SMH! :angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 04 Jul 2018, 04:35
And what about all these ridiculous "challenges" that keep popping up?! Our youth is just brainwashed. They will try anything for attention even if it can be fatal! Hoping their video will go "viral" SMH! :angry:

I think though that these "challenges" have always existed for teenagers and have pretty much always been dangerous. Of course in the old days they spread slower and weren't as visible as now, but existed nonetheless.

A popular one where I lived was sneaking onto the local army base land while they were doing drills, sometimes live-fire drills. I must admit I went along on one of these adventures with friends. Not during live-fire practice though. It was a red-team/blue-team capture-the-flag kind of drill. We ended up "captured" by the red-team and "held hostage" for about 30 minutes so we couldn't give away their position. It was pretty cool though. The army dudes were nice and even let us try out their rations packs, which were awful! Even the chocolate was pretty bad. Then they let us go, making sure we left the area. Didn't turn us in for trespassing or anything. So we got lucky. But imagine if they had been a bunch of assholes or gung-ho nuts. Older kids used to sneak in behind the mounds they were firing live ammo at and hide there for kicks, which could obviously end really bad.

So yeah, I think most kids always did these kind of things as stupid challenges, it's just that now they spread fast on social media so everyone is doing the same ones instead of it being different per locality.

Kids will be kids...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 04 Jul 2018, 16:18
This pretty much settles it! I'm from another planet and nobody told me! (wtf)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 04 Jul 2018, 17:41
This pretty much settles it! I'm from another planet and nobody told me! (wtf)

8-0 Oh, usually the people doing these stupid challenges are male... I guess we think it will impress you females... But you don't even notice... Human reproduction is a genuine miracle!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 04 Jul 2018, 18:41
LOL
Notice? I never heard of such idiocy before internet! (roll)

PS - And most of my good friends from childhood were males! As I was never much interested in "girl games/play time"... (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 05 Jul 2018, 09:36
LOL
Notice? I never heard of such idiocy before internet! (roll)

PS - And most of my good friends from childhood were males! As I was never much interested in "girl games/play time"... (roll)
I always figured guys did that sort of things to impress other guys, trying to prove who's the toughest etcetera. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 05 Jul 2018, 12:44
I always figured guys did that sort of things to impress other guys, trying to prove who's the toughest etcetera. (roll)

Yeah that too. But I guess the most alpha-male of the group does attract some girls' attentions so a bit of both probably.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on 27 Jul 2018, 15:30
What grinds my gears is dogs on those extendable leads, getting in everyone's way and tripping everyone up.  :angry:
Normal leads give owners much more control over their dogs.

Also, I saw a woman on the bus today with her 2 dogs, and each dog was lying on a seat, so that other people had to stand.  :angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on 27 Jul 2018, 15:37
Well,

some owners treat their pets as humans... I don't like dogs in the house...they should be cared for outside.

And on the bus seats would be a no no...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: ManicMatt on 27 Jul 2018, 16:35
some owners treat their pets as humans... I don't like dogs in the house...they should be cared for outside.

There's a big difference between treating a pet like a human, and letting it be inside a house! Especially how hot it is where I am, a dog would just die in this heat. :(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 27 Jul 2018, 16:40
What grinds my gears is dogs on those extendable leads, getting in everyone's way and tripping everyone up.

But without them we wouldn't have had the first puzzle in the Blackwell series!

(I remember Dave Gilbert mentioning what an absolute pain coding that puzzle was so that the leash behaved just right.. (laugh) )
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on 08 Aug 2018, 19:52
Super Market Frozen Pizza Toppings Distribution.

So I pop the oven on in preparation to scoff down a tasty pizza. Just before the oven gets to temperature I take the super market frozen pizza out of the fridge and introduce it to the pizza baking tray. Often then not at this point I am in shock at the sheer incompetence of the pizza company's ability to distribute the toppings evenly on the surface of the pizza. The very companie's that clearly state their product is best cooked frozen.

So out with my stake knife and tea spoon, and with a combination of both, some dexterity and a lot of brute force I embark on spending at least 5 mins hacking my way through the completely solidly frozen pile of toppings. It's either that or wait for the pizza to thaw somewhat that often results in a sub-par tasting pizza. Yes they really do taste much better when put into the oven frozen.

Mind you its not all frozen pizza companies that seem to have no control whatsoever in the placement of toppings, yet, surprisingly it seems to most happen with the larger, internationally recognized brands.

Its as if somewhere along their production line, the pizza base arrives by conveyor at a person (or chimp) whos only sole job it is is to place the toppings on the base of the pizza. Of course all this person's focus is on clock-out time, so instead of taking even the most primitive care to place the toppings in some basic fair and even distribution, they grab a fist of mozzarella, swing their arm over to the pizza base and simply open their first over it, repeat with other toppings and off this horrific mess goes  to be fossilized through deep freezing.

But wait, you would think these large companies would have machines to place the various toppings, surely automating the process will result in a consistent even distribution of toppings, perhaps so if they bothered to calibrate their machines to start doing so.

I say...

(https://i.imgur.com/I7CokwQ.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on 09 Aug 2018, 08:59
I think they thaw a little and shift during transport.  But either way, it has always ground my gears as well...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 09 Aug 2018, 10:41
I think they thaw a little and shift during transport.  But either way, it has always ground my gears as well...

I doubt that... They would be stored flat and therefore any bump in the road wouldn't do much. Also, frozen goods are usually not allowed to thaw majorly at any point during transport by existing companies.

By which I mean: Any company that lets its frozen goods thaw out to a major degree before reaching the consumer probably doesn't exist anymore.

I'd say the original post is spot on saying that the initial prep is at fault.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on 09 Aug 2018, 10:48
You should have seen/tasted the UK's first commercial frozen pizza's....

Beyond words... YUK springs to mind with the taste of cardboard...(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on 09 Aug 2018, 20:39
I actually had a nice frozen pizza just last sunday... for once in my live it was good and properly balanced. (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 09 Aug 2018, 22:15
You should have seen/tasted the UK's first commercial frozen pizza's....

Beyond words... YUK springs to mind with the taste of cardboard...(laugh)
From my travels in Scotland, I've found most of the UK's food in general to be kind of greasy and not having much taste. :-\

Still though, there's no excuse for uneven pizza toppings. The most annoying part for me is when the shredded cheese is spread out so that it's all over the edges, giving you no way of eating the pizza without getting your hands dirty,
or in worst case scenario drip down over the crust and down into the oven.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on 10 Aug 2018, 09:07
I think they thaw a little and shift during transport.  But either way, it has always ground my gears as well...

I doubt that... They would be stored flat and therefore any bump in the road wouldn't do much. Also, frozen goods are usually not allowed to thaw majorly at any point during transport by existing companies.

By which I mean: Any company that lets its frozen goods thaw out to a major degree before reaching the consumer probably doesn't exist anymore.

I'd say the original post is spot on saying that the initial prep is at fault.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 10 Aug 2018, 10:15
Uff frozen pizza is almost heretic IMO. It's always better to do it yourself but I understand there's not the time for it. I don't know how it is where you guys live but here, if you don't want to make the bread yourself you can simply buy just the bread from a pizzeria then you go home and put whatever toppings you'd like...I prefer doing it from scratch dough (yes pun intended) :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 10 Aug 2018, 10:32
I prefer doing it from scratch dough

This just ground my gears!!! ;-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on 10 Aug 2018, 14:08
Oh pizza real shame that I made you upset with this. Yeah that's right I can say even worse!!! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 14 Aug 2018, 13:52
Here's something that grinds my gears.
You get a game that a lot of people recommend. You play it a bit, but you find it incredibly boring and tedious. All of the recommendations seemed to have neglected to mention that the feature they hyped on about, is actually a tiny aspect of the game, and that the whole game is a boring slog with plenty of questionable design decisions. You complain about the game, BUT because the game is known among its fanbase for being "difficult", everyone reacts by saying that all you need to do is "git gud".

The game wasn't even difficult! It was just boring!
I've played difficult games! I've even enjoyed games that are so difficult that I can barely make any sort of progress in them, let alone complete them! The reason I dislike this game isn't because it's difficult! It's because it was CRAP! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 14 Aug 2018, 18:38
@Danvzare
I agree, it reminds me of when people say stuff like "You totally have to watch this show! Sure, it starts off really bad, but after the first two seasons it gets good!". I used to be less picky with what games I played and what books I read and so on when I was a teenager, but at some point you will realize that your time isn't infinite, and time spent watching a bad show or playing a bad game is time wasted that you could have spent watching something actually good, and I'm done wasting my free time on something mediocre just in the hopes that it could potentially turn good in the future. I have a personal rule, that if a piece of entertainment fails to give me any intrigue, entertainment or any other good reason to keep watching within the first 15 minutes, I'm done with it, and I've never regretted having that rule.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on 15 Aug 2018, 11:02
Another thing that grinds my gears.
The fact that review scores go from 7 to 10 (or 70 to 100).
Apparently, anything less then a 7, is the equivalent of getting a 0.

Maybe it's just me, but 7 seems like a pretty good number. If 5 is average, and 6 is above average, than 7 must be pretty good. But nope. According to reviewers it goes like this:
7 - Bad
8 - Good
9 or 10 - Great
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 15 Aug 2018, 12:05
Continuing with this ratings convo:

It really grinds my gears that Finding Dory has something like a 94% rating on Rotten Tomatoes (and about an 85% viewer rating) when it was just as much an insult to the original movie as Cars II was to Cars I...Worse actually because the original Cars was only alright, but Finding Nemo was one of the greatest modern animated films.

I know I'm probably late to the party here but I only watched Finding Dory yesterday for the first time and ...wow ... It was crap!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on 16 Aug 2018, 05:29
Continuing with this ratings convo:

It really grinds my gears that Finding Dory has something like a 94% rating on Rotten Tomatoes (and about an 85% viewer rating) when it was just as much an insult to the original movie as Cars II was to Cars I...Worse actually because the original Cars was only alright, but Finding Nemo was one of the greatest modern animated films.

I know I'm probably late to the party here but I only watched Finding Dory yesterday for the first time and ...wow ... It was crap!

Haha, funny that you mention that. Finding Nemo is one of my fav. animated films since The Lion King. I've had Finding Dory on my "to watch list" for the past 2 years, every time I think about wanting to watch it I always have something else I want to watch instead. Seems that has been a good thing, lol!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 16 Aug 2018, 08:54
Haha, funny that you mention that. Finding Nemo is one of my fav. animated films since The Lion King. I've had Finding Dory on my "to watch list" for the past 2 years, every time I think about wanting to watch it I always have something else I want to watch instead. Seems that has been a good thing, lol!

I'd be interested to hear your opinion if you ever do watch it. Of course, when I say it was crap, I mean crap for a Pixar film: It was visually lovely, it was funny a few times, but I feel it was really aiming mostly at the kiddies and selling a bunch of new character merch to them.

For example: there is absolutely NO reason for Nemo to come along on the mission and it actually makes Marlin look like a very irresponsible parent for bringing him along. If we accept that they probably live in The Great Barrier Reef a journey to California is potentially much more dangerous than the trip to Sydney (even though the actual journey only takes like 3 minutes of film time... hahaha... yeah... pretty dumb). Nemo is obviously only in the movie because the kids expect him to be. He has no reason to be there and his presence changes the story in no way, except he is quite nasty and obnoxious to Marlin at times just to give him lines to speak I guess.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on 16 Aug 2018, 13:06
If anyone asks me to rate something I use: buy, borrow, avoid.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on 17 Aug 2018, 22:31
@Mandle: If I do watch it, which I eventually will, I'll let you know my thoughts.

OK, stupid Captchas grind my gears to no end!!!! Yes I'm a damn human, stop making me type in nonsense words and click on stupid pictures >:(>:(>:(

(https://i.imgur.com/Gl4SN5d.gif)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 18 Aug 2018, 03:00
I actually enjoy the reality-check now and then to prove to myself that I'm a human.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dayowlron on 19 Aug 2018, 21:26
josiah, I saw that animation quite a while back. Thought it was funny that the very last scene looks like a limp penis laying on the desk.

OK something that grinds my gears.
First I need to start with my wife is in a wheel chair. We have a van that has a ramp that comes down on the right side, so we need a parking space that has open area or no parking area on the right side. places have handicap area just for vans like this, but most places we go there seems to always be someone parking in them. They do have handicap plates so it is legal, but I wonder how much they are really handicap. I wouldnt be surprised if some of their handicaps are sleep apnea or something. ANYWAYS, I have to block some people in so I can get the wife in or out of the van and then park in a regular spot. the thing is I go into the establishment/store and everyone in there has no problem walking around. I think the government just hands out handicap placards to anyone who asks for one. I would be ok if they have trouble walking long distances but when there is a parking space almost as close as the handicap parking and they don't have trouble getting in and out of the car then why take it from those who really need it. Anyways that is something that grinds my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AnasAbdin on 19 Aug 2018, 21:48
dayowlron I can totally relate. My father is on a wheelchair as well. Sometimes I find parked cars with no handicap card or anything. I once saw a guy leaving the facility I was taking my dad to, I talked to him about the handicapped spot, he actually said that since I (as a driver) am not handicapped then I shouldn't park there too :-\ literally left me speechless.

Typical bimbo responses: "It'll only be a minute." "Oh I didn't notice the sign." "What are the chances someone might need it?"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on 19 Aug 2018, 23:41
@Dayowlron, haha, very true!

I completely agree with the handicap parking deal. That crap has always pissed me off! Makes me want to keep a sledgehammer handy and crack kneecaps, then they really WILL be handicap!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dayowlron on 20 Aug 2018, 02:07
I just go if they aren't physically handicapped then they must be mentally handicapped, but still pisses me off.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on 20 Aug 2018, 05:58
josiah, I saw that animation quite a while back. Thought it was funny that the very last scene looks like a limp penis laying on the desk.
I don't usually see that much blood around a limp penis.  Am I doing something wrong?

I just go if they aren't physically handicapped then they must be mentally handicapped, but still pisses me off.
That's always my reaction, too!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on 20 Aug 2018, 22:49
When it comes to handicap parking, there are people with neurological disorders that leave no visible mark but still cause great pain when they move,
and to those people I can imagine having a slightly shorter walk to the shop would make a great difference even if they aren't confined to
a wheelchair. But if they don't have any handicap card or anything else in the car I don't see any excuse.

I think that to the sort of otherwise healthy people who park in handicap spaces, their mindset is that since handicapped people are a minority,
to them a minority means rare -> unlikely to meet one today -> might as well not exist. It's the same sort of pervasive thinking that makes
people skip seatbelts just because the majority of cars don't crash when people drive them.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dayowlron on 21 Aug 2018, 03:17
You know even though most places the handicap places are closer to the door, there is a few where the handicap spots are actually farther away. not that they are the farthest parking spots but that there is some parking spots that are closer to the door than the handicap spots. I dont mind that at all cause it is not the distance to walk to the door that bothers me, but that I need at least 6 feet or more to the right of the van to lower the ramp and wheel her out. I can understand that if they have some condition where walking is painful then they do have a right to a handicap spot. I just feel that there is so many that just get it cause of some injury that may have completely healed and they just keep the placard or they get one for a elderly parent and then use it when the parent is not with them.
As far as people parking in the spots that don't have a placard or handicap plates the fines can get really high so you don't see that much here. depending on the state and the judge it could range from $250 to $750.
Anyways I have spoken my peace about it so I will get off my soapbox.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on 21 Aug 2018, 10:09
they get one for a elderly parent and then use it when the parent is not with them.

I know someone who still does that even though her father, who the handicapped plate was for, died like 7-8 years ago. And this person even brags about getting away with it.