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Title: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: AGA on 04 Jan 2018, 22:28
So it's early in the new year, which means it's Mittens (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/wiki/Mittens) planning time!

Given our usual 'every third year in America' tradition, 2018 is another America year.  For some reason Boston has jumped out at me as being a good idea, and when I mentioned it on the Discord chat channel, people seemed in favour.  There should be plenty of interesting things to see and do (https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g60745-Activities-Boston_Massachusetts.html), and the whole historical bent (https://www.trolleytours.com/boston/historic-sites) seems nice.  It looks possible to rent places of various enough sizes and prices (https://www.vrbo.com/vacation-rentals/usa/massachusetts/greater-boston) to house however many people attend.

So, who's interested?


We booked this place: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/6741599!  15-22 September.

Confirmed Attendees
AGA
Disco
Esseb
Grundislav
Jess
Layabout
Layabout's +1
MillsJROSS
MillsJROSS's +1
m0rph84 [no bed required]
Privateer Puddin'
scotch
Snarky
Tamara
= 13 [14]

Interested Parties
Dave Gilbert
noavana [maybe]
Pesty [no bed required]
tzachs [maybe]
= 1 [5]
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on 05 Jan 2018, 01:17
Yep!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Grundislav on 05 Jan 2018, 02:17
I'd definitely go if it was in Boston. It's a cool city and close enough to make travel cheap!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Snarky on 05 Jan 2018, 05:21
Absolutely!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Layabout on 05 Jan 2018, 05:36
Count me interested. I would love to visit Boston.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Esseb on 05 Jan 2018, 10:06
I'm interested!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Grundislav on 05 Jan 2018, 15:52
Add a +1 for me, as Jess is also interested.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Dave Gilbert on 05 Jan 2018, 19:05
Yes yes yes. Love Boston. Count me in.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: tzachs on 06 Jan 2018, 01:52
Ooh, we're definitely interested, but I'm guessing it's going to be problematic coming with a (very demanding) 2 year old? Was there ever a precedent of somebody bringing a kid? And how did it go? If not, maybe we'll do a weekend there and come visit.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: cat on 06 Jan 2018, 09:46
Boston sounds awesome, but with a baby, we will not be able to come. I don't think Mittens is for kids and I'd have been pretty pissed had people brought their kids to the Mittens I attended.
However, I was thinking about organising a Mittens with kids (Kiddens (laugh) ) next year in Europe.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 06 Jan 2018, 12:46
Yeah, unfortunately I don't think kids at Mittens would really work...  I think the only way it could work is if the parents stayed somewhere else (hotel / own rental), and met up during the day with the main group.  I really can't see a young child fitting in with all the noise, drinking and late nights that are known to happen at Mittens!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Snarky on 06 Jan 2018, 13:17
I think it would be a shame if all the Mittens regulars who are having kids have to stop coming, though, or if we had to segregate it completely into parents vs. non-parents meetups.

As people grow older, the nature of Mittens changes as well. And really, I don't think there was really anything about Mittens Iceland that was particularly non-kids-appropriate (depending on how parents feel about the penis museum). If there's a concern that having children around would cramp our style, maybe we could alternate every other year? Or get two separate places nearby each other. Or overlap it so that part of the time is with kids, parts all together and parts without. I think there are ways to make it work.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: tzachs on 06 Jan 2018, 20:23
I think the only way it could work is if the parents stayed somewhere else (hotel / own rental), and met up during the day with the main group.

Right, I guess this is what we might do then (and we'll come just for the weekend probably).
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Disco on 09 Jan 2018, 02:17
Why not? :D Looking forward to crossing a new state off my travel map!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: yamipanda on 13 Jan 2018, 10:31
Interested. :)
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Layabout on 18 Jan 2018, 10:29
I will have a plus 1 and an idea on dates people are thinking would help as we need to get an idea of flight costs from Australia. :)
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 18 Jan 2018, 11:09
It has been suggested quite a few times that we might have Mittens a bit later. Tamara and I have a very busy summer planned, so that would actually be preferable to us. What do people think about the second weekend of September, for instance? Flights also seem to be cheaper than the summer peak for the majority of us who live in the northern hemisphere (sorry, Ryan!).
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Grundislav on 18 Jan 2018, 16:56
Post-summer is fine, just make sure it's in September or October, any later and it gets pretty damn cold in Boston...
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Layabout on 18 Jan 2018, 22:57
Post-summer is fine, just make sure it's in September or October, any later and it gets pretty damn cold in Boston...
At least in September and October I get a chance to wear my jackets. We get two weeks of winter in Australia!
I'm OK with mid to late September. Flights are what they are - I'll just have to look out for some sweet deals. ;)
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on 19 Jan 2018, 15:10
September should be ok.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Snarky on 19 Jan 2018, 15:47
Yeah, I think that should be Ok. I spent a summer in Boston once, and in July it topped out at 33°C and 100% humidity, so waiting for a cooler month may not be a bad idea.

If anyone is keen, it would be nice to take a road trip around New England as well.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: scotch on 19 Jan 2018, 19:51
Definitely add me, I'll come almost certainly since I live a little outside of Boston. Really look forward to it!
Makes no difference to me, but yeah September is usually a decent bet in terms of weather, and it's also a bit cheaper for flights from Europe.
I might be able to bring a car or two, if people want to do anything off the T.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 19 Jan 2018, 22:43
Definitely add me, I'll come almost certainly since I live a little outside of Boston. Really look forward to it!
Makes no difference to me, but yeah September is usually a decent bet in terms of weather, and it's also a bit cheaper for flights from Europe.
I might be able to bring a car or two, if people want to do anything off the T.

What about the wife?  Would you be staying, or just commuting from home?
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: scotch on 19 Jan 2018, 23:37
I'd stay unless there is a space issue, but I'd only drag my wife (Kristin) along for trips/dinner rather than have her stay, due to vacation time issues.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Esseb on 20 Jan 2018, 11:07
September works for me too.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: arj0n on 20 Jan 2018, 14:00
Count me +1 (my GF) as interested
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Disco on 20 Jan 2018, 19:41
I am fine with September, but won’t be able to do the second week. Kayla and I visit our brother every year around the 7th to ~10th that month. Having it the first or third week would actually be really convenient for me (and my employer) by lumping time off in one go, if that works for the group at large of course.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 20 Jan 2018, 19:45
We can't do the first week, but the third is fine.  Weekend to weekend is of course always preferable for a Mittens, so does 15-22 September work for everyone?
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Andail on 21 Jan 2018, 20:18
Boston sounds great and I'd love to go, but the only feasible way for me to meet up would be if I took the entire family to Boston, stayed at a hotel and then visited you guys from there.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Esseb on 24 Jan 2018, 23:06
15-22 september works for me.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Monsieur OUXX on 25 Jan 2018, 16:32
Not possible for me (too far). However if there is some sort of European-based warmup or after-party, I'd be very interested. (roll)
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: MillsJROSS on 25 Jan 2018, 21:41
I'll have to think about this one. Count me (+1) as a maybe.

I'm fully ok with families being involved if it means we get to see more old friends.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Dave Gilbert on 26 Jan 2018, 23:25
That might be the same weekend as Boston FIG? (festival of indie games). The date of the event hasn't been released yet, but usually they have it the 2nd or 3rd Saturday of September. Could be a fun thing to go to.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Disco on 31 Jan 2018, 15:04
If anyone is keen, it would be nice to take a road trip around New England as well.

That would be grand! Of particular interest to me is Vermont/New Hampshire, but wouldn’t mind trying to visit all the states if time and itinerary allow.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Snarky on 31 Jan 2018, 15:55
Cool!

I'm in! I need to clear it with work, but we have freedom to schedule our vacations, and it shouldn't be a problem when it's fixed this far in advance.

Not possible for me (too far). However if there is some sort of European-based warmup or after-party, I'd be very interested. (roll)

If there is interest in a smaller-scale Euro-Mittens, we are (as I have sometimes mentioned) welcome to stay at my family's house in Southern Spain. It sleeps 7 people comfortably, and we could probably squeeze in another 2-4 at increasing inconvenience (sofas, etc.). It's quite far inland, an hour's drive from the nearest international airport, with nothing particularly interesting nearby, but it's a nice place to unwind.

(https://i.imgur.com/W5AHlnO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NyMBkma.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7EGrazI.jpg?1)
(Pictures taken last January; it's quite a lot drier in the summer)
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Layabout on 01 Feb 2018, 07:51
15 to 22 is good for me
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 02 Feb 2018, 16:59
Okay, so housing options...

There are quite a lot of options, in a variety of locations and styles.  A few choices below:

LinkBedsTotal CostCost Each
https://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p417583vb12$4,028.00$335.67
https://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p475575312$7,769.50$647.46
https://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1186801vb15$5,306.00$353.73
https://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p856496216$8,042.04$502.63
https://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1186801vb20$6,148.00$307.40

Just some ideas, please feel free to suggest anywhere else you see that might be suitable.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 09 Feb 2018, 22:15
We're running out of options rapidly, as places are booking up.  What about this place: https://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p492936vb?  It sleeps 16, seems well equipped, and the ocean location could be great!  Around an hour's drive or public transport from Boston.  It's about $400 per person, but the larger, cheaper places are running out!

If we can agree on a place quickly, I'll make the booking ASAP.  Everyone please respond to confirm if this place would be good, from 15-22 September.  If people don't at least respond with a yes or a no, I'll have to assume you're no longer interested.


http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=55673.msg636580840#msg636580840
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Dave Gilbert on 09 Feb 2018, 22:29
My only issue with that place is that it's marketed as being "away from it all", which tells me that it's not near the actual city? I can find an address on the site so I can't say for sure.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 09 Feb 2018, 22:32
There's a map.  As I said, it's around an hour's drive, same by public transport, from Boston.  That's pretty standard for Mittens, I think.  We're usually a medium journey from the nearest big city, and it's never been a problem before!

Hull / Nantasket Beach, since I know you know Boston.  Here's (https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Beach+Ave,+Hull,+MA+02045,+USA/@42.2840016,-70.8723859,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x89e365e18ca6cf71:0x1693c6d422a9b8bb!2sHull,+MA,+USA!3b1!8m2!3d42.3020647!4d-70.9078346!3m4!1s0x89e3665798efdc6b:0x704b94702c1d073a!8m2!3d42.2840016!4d-70.8701972?hl=en) a Google Maps link to the exactish location.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Pesty on 09 Feb 2018, 22:36
Hello my friends woah nelly what year is it? Anyway hi, I would like to go to mittens and see all you good good kids! AGA knows this I've just been too busy to post it Official-like, so here I am posting it Official-like!

This place looks super cool! It's probably not TOO "away from it all", though its definitely worth checking to see how far it is from the city!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 09 Feb 2018, 22:39
Nevermind, that house is taken!  Owner apparently doesn't update the calendar.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 09 Feb 2018, 22:49
Okay, this place also looks nice: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/17364158?location=Boston%2C%20MA&adults=16&children=0&infants=0&guests=16&check_in=2018-09-15&check_out=2018-09-22&s=Zc-bWzqM / https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Prospect+St,+Peabody,+MA+01960,+USA/@42.5413464,-70.9527657,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e313b5ec9b769b:0xaa3062c898067f9e!8m2!3d42.5413464!4d-70.950577?hl=en.  Around $300 per person, huge place that can house loads of people.  Again, around an hour from Boston.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: scotch on 10 Feb 2018, 00:42
I'm ok with wherever. I do think the Hull area ones seemed doable, good value, and the beach would have been cool. Ferry and rail are both options there. Central Boston sucks for driving and parking, so if people wanted to get in I would drive/uber them to the T/rail and go from there. I'd guess about 40-50 min for either option.

The Peabody one looks cool for size and obviously price! Salem nearby is kind of a fun day out. Probably pushing it for travel time though, since it's not near any good stations. I'll have a look about to see if anything stands out... a lot is disappearing.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Dave Gilbert on 10 Feb 2018, 00:57
I'm fine either way!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on 10 Feb 2018, 01:03
Latest place looks good! Didn't realise places would be booked this far out
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: scotch on 10 Feb 2018, 01:29
Oh yeah, places book out like crazy towards fall. I have stuff booked for November already.

As for the stuff north of the city, I like this one:
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/6741599?location=Boston%2C%20MA&adults=15&check_in=2018-09-15&check_out=2018-09-22&s=ApQCnsvR

Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4250597,-70.9115384,3a,75y,73.77h,88.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3d0M7coCdXzmp0aCWK6RRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

It's vast, near the sea, and it's 30 minutes and $9 per person from Boston center on Uber, also close to Salem and also has a lot of bathrooms which is a plus.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on 10 Feb 2018, 01:35
Didn't realise the last one was a bit hotely (millennial, just went straight for the pictures :=) so scotch's suggestion looks good, but just to note the owner lives in the basement and no loud conversations after 10PM

Anyway, places are running out so everyone feedback!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: m0rph84 on 10 Feb 2018, 04:32
Count me in!
I live in Boston! September is a great month, fall foliage is amazing here.

Never went to a Mittens before. How the housing works? I have an apartment here so I can return home at night.
Is this doable? The problem is that I have a wife and a 1-month-old baby that will be around 9-month-old in September...
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Snarky on 10 Feb 2018, 07:18
Okay, this place also looks nice: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/17364158?location=Boston%2C%20MA&adults=16&children=0&infants=0&guests=16&check_in=2018-09-15&check_out=2018-09-22&s=Zc-bWzqM / https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Prospect+St,+Peabody,+MA+01960,+USA/@42.5413464,-70.9527657,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e313b5ec9b769b:0xaa3062c898067f9e!8m2!3d42.5413464!4d-70.950577?hl=en.  Around $300 per person, huge place that can house loads of people.  Again, around an hour from Boston.

Hmmm... it sleeps up to 45, so as Puddin' says it will be a bit hotely. Looks nice otherwise, though note "Quiet Hours 10:30PM - 6:30AM"

scotch's suggestion looks good, but just to note the owner lives in the basement and no loud conversations after 10PM

I thought you were joking!
That sounds non-ideal.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Esseb on 10 Feb 2018, 13:00
I’m basically fine with any house, if it’s difficult to find available houses it might be inefficient to get everyone’s approval. I trust AGA to find a suitable place.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 10 Feb 2018, 13:34
Unfortunately we're seriously running out of valid options.  Both those options have their plus sides and their negatives, but I'm not sure we can afford to be fussy anymore.  We really need to book something today.  As Esseb says, if it comes to it I might be forced to just pick a place and book.

To make it easier though, here's a summary of the two current options:

The Wheatland (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/17364158?adults=16&children=0&infants=0&guests=16&location=Boston%2C%20MA&check_in=2018-09-15&check_out=2018-09-22&s=Zc-bWzqM)Large spacious 6 bedroom house (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/6741599?location=Boston%2C%20MA&adults=16&check_in=2018-09-15&check_out=2018-09-22&s=ApQCnsvR&guests=16)
16-45 people
Up to 22 separate beds
Up to 5 unshared rooms (only one bed)
$5925.55 total / $370.35 each
Not suitable for under 2s
Around 1hr from Boston by car and public transport
Potentially a shared space, if other people book at the same time as us
Quiet Hours 10:30PM - 6:30AM
Clean up after yourselves in common areas
Please note that personal items cannot be left in the common areas
16 people
10 separate beds
4 unshared rooms (only one bed)
30 minutes' drive from Boston, but public transport is barely available
$6197.40 total / $387.34 each
No food in any of the bedrooms
No loud music
No loud conversations or music after 10pm
Owner lives on site, but with separate entrance

Overall I'd say the second option is more like a traditional Mittens house, while the first is more like staying in a B&B.  The main downside is the lack of noise after 22:00, and need for a car/Uber, but I think we can probably cope better with that than the other place's rules.  It's not like loud noises are much of a Mittens thing, and we can always go upstairs into one of the bedrooms if we really need to make more noise!  According to scotch, who lives locally, it's also better situated for Boston and the local history.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: Snarky on 10 Feb 2018, 13:48
Personally I'd go with option 1, but I'm ok with either.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 10 Feb 2018, 13:52
Count me in!
I live in Boston! September is a great month, fall foliage is amazing here.

Never went to a Mittens before. How the housing works? I have an apartment here so I can return home at night.
Is this doable? The problem is that I have a wife and a 1-month-old baby that will be around 9-month-old in September...

The way it usually works is you pay your share, you stay at the chosen house for the week.  We hang out for the week, and do nerd stuff (not always AGS related).  Usually at least one day involves getting out of the house and seeing the local attractions/history.

However, I will warn you that both options we're looking at say no children under 2 are allowed on site (for safety reasons).  If you wanted, you could probably work out some way of doing it though.  You visit us during the day, then go home to your family at night, or you stay with us and visit them every day or two.  Whatever you feel comfortable with!  Of course if you didn't sleep at the house you wouldn't need to pay a full share of the costs.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 10 Feb 2018, 14:25
Oh btw, if you look at the photos of the second place there's a huge attic we could easily use for later night drinking, game playing, noise making.  There's very little chance the owner would be able to hear us from his basement apartment.  To me, that basically removes my main concern...
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 discussion - Boston???
Post by: AGA on 10 Feb 2018, 14:41
Okay, I've booked Large spacious 6 bedroom house (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/6741599?location=Boston%2C%20MA&adults=16&check_in=2018-09-15&check_out=2018-09-22&s=ApQCnsvR&guests=16), from 15-22 September.  I noticed that Airbnb will refund 100% of the fees if you cancel within 48 hours, so it seemed a good idea.

Sorry for all the high speed and chaos today and yesterday, but I really wasn't expecting stuff to book up this quickly!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on 10 Feb 2018, 15:10
Thanks AGA for sorting it all out once again!

See everyone in Boston!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: Esseb on 10 Feb 2018, 15:33
Thanks for sorting this out, AGA, the house looks great.
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: scotch on 10 Feb 2018, 19:03
Nice one AGA! I think it'll work great. Can't wait :=
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: Snarky on 10 Feb 2018, 19:05
Paid! Thanks AGA!

So Mittens in Boston... See you all at MITtens!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: m0rph84 on 10 Feb 2018, 20:52
Quote
However, I will warn you that both options we're looking at say no children under 2 are allowed on site (for safety reasons).  If you wanted, you could probably work out some way of doing it though.  You visit us during the day, then go home to your family at night, or you stay with us and visit them every day or two.  Whatever you feel comfortable with!  Of course, if you didn't sleep at the house you wouldn't need to pay a full share of the costs.

Sounds good! I saw you booked from 15-22 September.
Let me know how I have to pay my share and how much I have to pay if I do not sleep there.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: AGA on 10 Feb 2018, 20:57
We're paying for the accommodation, not the company, so if you don't use a bed I don't think there's any need to pay...  Please try to work out ASAP whether you'll want a bed though!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: m0rph84 on 10 Feb 2018, 21:12
Oh ok no, due to my situation I don't think I'll need a bed.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: arj0n on 17 Feb 2018, 12:07
I was waiting to receive news from the hospital, which is also the reason why I haven't answered the Mittens-PM's yet.
This news finally came in yesterday: I will be hospitalized in the beginning of September, for my right-side arm & wrist.
I was hoping they scheduled it after Mittens, but that's not the case. Therefor I'm sadly not able to join Mittens this year... :(

Sorry for any delay or whatsoever caused by me, and I hope y'all have a great time!!
Title: Re: Mittens 2018 confirmed - Boston 15-22 September
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on 17 Feb 2018, 12:14
Hope all goes well with the arm!