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Title: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Wiggy on 25 Jan 2018, 11:30
Awesome game, and a credit to the series! I've played this all day and (I think) tried everything with everything and possessed everything I could (in all senses of the word possessed), but I'm stumped on
fixing R. Kyvist's gramophone. I guess it needs the crank from the jack-in-the-box, but how to prise it off?
.

I also have the
pig that looks too new to give to the archeologist, hopefully in exchange for the light to access the cave
. I love the non-linear gameplay, it's all-round a good production with puzzles ranging from the sublime to the ridiculous, and I say "You got me here, I'can't proceed." Please don't let it be a MacGyver moment where you combine a twig with chewing gum under the moonlight, spin around 3 times and make a helicopter, Pleeaase!!
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: arj0n on 25 Jan 2018, 21:06
...but I'm stumped on
fixing R. Kyvist's gramophone. I guess it needs the crank from the jack-in-the-box, but how to prise it off?
.

hint 1:
your can't get the crank removed from the box by yourself
hint 2:
your solution lies behind that huge critter
hint 3:
that huge critter might be hungry
Solution:
use the fruit on the huge critter
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: peter on 26 Jan 2018, 00:53
I do not see what I have to do with the pillar with symbols and pillar with pins in the maze garden??
Which and how many pins should I press.
Please give the answer

Thx
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: arj0n on 26 Jan 2018, 01:22
@Peter:

walk as far south as you can from the first pillar, then stand behind the hedge on the left until you can only see half of the numerals on the pillar.
If you use the Look cursor on it from this angle, Thalia should be able to figure out what the numerals are.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 26 Jan 2018, 07:21
Thanks for providing those hints, arj0n. :)
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Wiggy on 26 Jan 2018, 11:29
Thanks Arj0n, but alas I am not wiser, nor have I got the part I require.

I got rid of the critter early using the fruit, I replayed the game from start even, but how do I get the crank from the jack-in-the-box? The critter had no interest in that device. (Oh, I solved the pig dilemma BTW)
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 26 Jan 2018, 17:52
Thanks Arj0n, but alas I am not wiser, nor have I got the part I require.

I got rid of the critter early using the fruit, I replayed the game from start even, but how do I get the crank from the jack-in-the-box? The critter had no interest in that device. (Oh, I solved the pig dilemma BTW)

You won't be able to liberate the crank until
you've gotten further into the cave. Have you found a way of lighting your way?

If not, you need to make a torch.

There's a branch in the woods to the far west.

Dip the branch in the tar pit to make a complete unlit torch. Now you just need to find a way to set it on fire.

Have you encountered anything (or anyone) capable of producing fire?

Have you met the Administrator yet? If not, you should get a call telling you about the Administrator the second time you try leaving the Mega-Game.

Use the torch on the blank space in the Admin's room. Now you can go deeper inside the cave.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: peter on 27 Jan 2018, 12:41
@Peter:

walk as far south as you can from the first pillar, then stand behind the hedge on the left until you can only see half of the numerals on the pillar.
If you use the Look cursor on it from this angle, Thalia should be able to figure out what the numerals are.

Thx
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Wiggy on 27 Jan 2018, 18:18
Thanks Akril15.
I forgot the administrator was a dragon! I even tried to ignite the torch in the power socket in Vertex! Dumbass me.
Anyway, finished the game now. Some of those later puzzles were diabolically brilliant, congrats on a great game. (oh I found 1 little cursor bug, I'll try to replicate it and send you a pm)
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 27 Jan 2018, 22:13
Thanks Akril15.
I forgot the administrator was a dragon! I even tried to ignite the torch in the power socket in Vertex! Dumbass me.
Anyway, finished the game now. Some of those later puzzles were diabolically brilliant, congrats on a great game. (oh I found 1 little cursor bug, I'll try to replicate it and send you a pm)
Congrats (and thanks in advance)!
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: HanaIndiana on 29 Jan 2018, 03:29
Wow, how have I missed these. I'm definitely checking this out (and the others in the Adventure series). :)
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Mandle on 30 Jan 2018, 17:33
@Peter:

walk as far south as you can from the first pillar, then stand behind the hedge on the left until you can only see half of the numerals on the pillar.
If you use the Look cursor on it from this angle, Thalia should be able to figure out what the numerals are.

I had no idea that this was part of the solution for this puzzle.

I was already familiar with the:

reflected numbers

style of puzzle so recognized it straight away and inputted the right numbers in the panel.

Thalia told me she had no idea how she had solved the puzzle but the game accepted it anyway.

I will have to go back and try this intended solution.

But thank you Akril15 for allowing the player to also figure it out without it.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Mandle on 30 Jan 2018, 17:38
I forgot the administrator was a dragon!

That was one of the parts of the game that made me feel like a genius!

I tried it on the spur of the moment, just in case, not expecting it to work, and then it did!

Pure magical feeling!
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 30 Jan 2018, 18:27
I forgot the administrator was a dragon!

That was one of the parts of the game that made me feel like a genius!

I tried it on the spur of the moment, just in case, not expecting it to work, and then it did!

Pure magical feeling!
Cool! That part of the game stumped most of the testers, so congrats on figuring it out. :)
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: BunnyShoggoth on 03 Feb 2018, 01:24
That game was a trip and a half, an awesome conclusion to an awesome saga! Some if the puzzles were really tricky and ingenious, especially the ones relying on "in-game" mechanics, like
the code on the pillar in the 3D maze, the zoom-in and zoom-out in the garden to get the lazy CGMS agent to transport you, and the non-verbal dialogues in Suzy-Ann's console game.
What I'm really stumped on is
finding that Easter Egg with the questions.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 03 Feb 2018, 04:18
That game was a trip and a half, an awesome conclusion to an awesome saga! Some if the puzzles were really tricky and ingenious, especially the ones relying on "in-game" mechanics, like
the code on the pillar in the 3D maze, the zoom-in and zoom-out in the garden to get the lazy CGMS agent to transport you, and the non-verbal dialogues in Suzy-Ann's console game.
What I'm really stumped on is
finding that Easter Egg with the questions.
Thank you very much!

Regarding the
Easter Egg, I'm assuming you saw my "out of this world" hint in the game announcement thread.
If you want another hint...
When you first arrive in a strange place, it's always good to have someone to talk to.
One more hint...
Minus green.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: splat44 on 06 Feb 2018, 02:11
Hi I am stuck
1) lense used to locate item where rat dropped (put back to hand of fate room in exchange for device that transform as jennifer)
2) record and use crank to listen to some tune
3) mirror
4) used pic with archaeologist: was this suppose to give me sometime?

Questions:
I know I need giving something to plant for white medalion - torin passge but what?
About mindsweep thing given by jeff - VR room, where can use it? I tried using on bird where I met malcom but it too far?
Where best place to transform into Jennifer?
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 06 Feb 2018, 04:55
4) used pic with archaeologist: was this suppose to give me sometime?
Hint:
Have you looked at the items near the archeologist and found anything that might help you solve a little mystery you might have encountered?


I know I need giving something to plant for white medalion - torin passge but what?
Hint:
Have you talked with the plant to learn exactly what it wants in exchange for the medallion?


About mindsweep thing given by jeff - VR room, where can use it? I tried using on bird where I met malcom but it too far?
Hints:
You need something to lure the bird closer, and that requires helping another animal.
Have you noticed any creature in the kids' room that looks out of place?
Look at the creature sitting next to the stream. Have you met anyone who might be able to help you figure out what it is?
Go to the archeologist and examine the books beside her.


Where best place to transform into Jennifer?
Hints:
Remember how Rusty said that Jeff would probably be somewhere where he feels "at home?"
Look at Jeff's profile. What room in the Mega-Game would match up with his interests the most?
Go to the north cliff overlooking the ocean. Be sure to find a place to hide.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: splat44 on 06 Feb 2018, 19:14
Ok but just questions:

about book, does any kind animal archealolist show me are seen in game and regardless which ones?
I might have encountered a bug: after getting recorder after she leave and try getting book again, game doesn't get further or get too long to process.!
I hope kid room will show after getting the right animal?

Used recorder on gamaphone
I already asked plant medalion and I presume it that thing malcom have thrown away

Transforming in to jennifer:
I presume when you said "North cliff" is the one left of archealolist?
There no obvious place to hide except slightly behind border but it's hard pointing that device on exact spot
If that room isn't right one then which one?

4) used pic with archaeologist: was this suppose to give me sometime?
Hint:
Have you looked at the items near the archeologist and found anything that might help you solve a little mystery you might have encountered?


I know I need giving something to plant for white medalion - torin passge but what?
Hint:
Have you talked with the plant to learn exactly what it wants in exchange for the medallion?


About mindsweep thing given by jeff - VR room, where can use it? I tried using on bird where I met malcom but it too far?
Hints:
You need something to lure the bird closer, and that requires helping another animal.
Have you noticed any creature in the kids' room that looks out of place?
Look at the creature sitting next to the stream. Have you met anyone who might be able to help you figure out what it is?
Go to the archeologist and examine the books beside her.


Where best place to transform into Jennifer?
Hints:
Remember how Rusty said that Jeff would probably be somewhere where he feels "at home?"
Look at Jeff's profile. What room in the Mega-Game would match up with his interests the most?
Go to the north cliff overlooking the ocean. Be sure to find a place to hide.

Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 06 Feb 2018, 21:09
about book, does any kind animal archealolist show me is correct one?
If not then which one?
Answer:
The archeologist should be able to help you identify the strange animal in the kids' room. If you try interacting with the book again and Thalia doesn't do it, you've got the right animal.


I might have encountered a bug: after getting recorder after she leave and try getting book again, game doesn't get further or get too long to process.!
Answer:
I'm having trouble understanding your problem. Are you saying that the game gets stuck? I tried replicating the problem and I couldn't get it to happen, unfortunately -- Thalia just walks to the books and says she's had enough identifying mammals for one day.


I already asked plant medalion and I presume it that thing malcom have thrown away
Answer:
That's not what the plant is looking for. The plant should have told you that it wants something that is the same shape as its medallion (round and flat), and it wants it to be a color that stands out from the other colors in the room it's in.


Transforming in to jennifer:
I presume when you said "North cliff" is the one left of archealolist?
There no obvious place to hide except slightly behind border but it's hard pointing that device on exact spot
If that room isn't right one then which one?
Answer:
That is the right room. Hide behind the rock pillar on the left by using the Hand icon on it.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: splat44 on 06 Feb 2018, 22:36
Ok,

the only obvious thing I can see is broken but need some repair. I tried interact this everywhere but still.
Any suggestion? I click totally by random

Ok but just questions:

about book, does any kind animal archealolist show me are seen in game and regardless which ones?
I might have encountered a bug: after getting recorder after she leave and try getting book again, game doesn't get further or get too long to process.!
I hope kid room will show after getting the right animal?

Used recorder on gamaphone
I already asked plant medalion and I presume it that thing malcom have thrown away

Transforming in to jennifer:
I presume when you said "North cliff" is the one left of archealolist?
There no obvious place to hide except slightly behind border but it's hard pointing that device on exact spot
If that room isn't right one then which one?

4) used pic with archaeologist: was this suppose to give me sometime?
Hint:
Have you looked at the items near the archeologist and found anything that might help you solve a little mystery you might have encountered?


I know I need giving something to plant for white medalion - torin passge but what?
Hint:
Have you talked with the plant to learn exactly what it wants in exchange for the medallion?


About mindsweep thing given by jeff - VR room, where can use it? I tried using on bird where I met malcom but it too far?
Hints:
You need something to lure the bird closer, and that requires helping another animal.
Have you noticed any creature in the kids' room that looks out of place?
Look at the creature sitting next to the stream. Have you met anyone who might be able to help you figure out what it is?
Go to the archeologist and examine the books beside her.


Where best place to transform into Jennifer?
Hints:
Remember how Rusty said that Jeff would probably be somewhere where he feels "at home?"
Look at Jeff's profile. What room in the Mega-Game would match up with his interests the most?
Go to the north cliff overlooking the ocean. Be sure to find a place to hide.

Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 06 Feb 2018, 23:45
the only obvious thing I can see is broken but need some repair. I tried interact this everywhere but still.
Any suggestion? I click totally by random
What exactly are you trying to do?
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: splat44 on 07 Feb 2018, 06:40
Here what I tried with record but no result:

1) having other character deal with it
2) I considered hidding cratches by dipping it into tar
Anything else I am missing?

Not sure where to play recorder tune
Went to theater not sure why

To room where silk is tied to a tree, I see an arrow pointing to ravine ravine hotspot but cannot exit this way

the only obvious thing I can see is broken but need some repair. I tried interact this everywhere but still.
Any suggestion? I click totally by random
What exactly are you trying to do?
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 07 Feb 2018, 11:38
Here what I tried with record but no result:
1) having other character deal with it
2) I considered hidding cratches by dipping it into tar
Anything else I am missing?
Hints:
Have you met anyone who can help you make the record a different color?
Ichabod can help you. Give him the record to paint it a different color.
The color you should paint it is blue.


To room where silk is tied to a tree, I see an arrow pointing to ravine ravine hotspot but cannot exit this way
Answer:
Are you on top of the ravine? You should be able to leave that way. Try clicking in a slightly different spot.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: splat44 on 07 Feb 2018, 18:24
Wow!

I could have swear I tried using that on character before! LOL

About the ravine, top isn't the one but at bottom, there're two arrow (exit points) bottom right and slightly at middle left (as seen on below pic but cannot use it)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/sdhcgj.png)

Here what I tried with record but no result:
1) having other character deal with it
2) I considered hidding cratches by dipping it into tar
Anything else I am missing?
Hints:
Have you met anyone who can help you make the record a different color?
Ichabod can help you. Give him the record to paint it a different color.
The color you should paint it is blue.


To room where silk is tied to a tree, I see an arrow pointing to ravine ravine hotspot but cannot exit this way
Answer:
Are you on top of the ravine? You should be able to leave that way. Try clicking in a slightly different spot.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 07 Feb 2018, 22:15
About the ravine, top isn't the one but at bottom, there're two arrow (exit points) bottom right and slightly at middle left (as seen on below pic but cannot use it)
Ah, that hotspot. That arrow supposed to be there. It's just there to show that the ravine isn't finished being "built" yet. Thalia should try walking that way, say "Darn -- looks like this ravine doesn't lead anywhere.", then turn around.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: SarahLiz on 07 Feb 2018, 23:23
edit:  I figured it out on my own, feel free to delete my post.  ;)
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: BunnyShoggoth on 08 Feb 2018, 22:52
That game was a trip and a half, an awesome conclusion to an awesome saga! Some if the puzzles were really tricky and ingenious, especially the ones relying on "in-game" mechanics, like
the code on the pillar in the 3D maze, the zoom-in and zoom-out in the garden to get the lazy CGMS agent to transport you, and the non-verbal dialogues in Suzy-Ann's console game.
What I'm really stumped on is
finding that Easter Egg with the questions.
Thank you very much!

Regarding the
Easter Egg, I'm assuming you saw my "out of this world" hint in the game announcement thread.
If you want another hint...
When you first arrive in a strange place, it's always good to have someone to talk to.
One more hint...
Minus green.

Hmm,
I can think of three "strange/out of this world" places: the alien planet, the 3D labyrinth, and the Momo game. Also the Administrator's room, but Thalia visits it early enough, not in a later part of the game. "Minus green": the creatures of the alien planet are green and shaped somewhat like minus sign, I tried talking to them, doesn't help.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 08 Feb 2018, 23:05
I can think of three "strange/out of this world" places: the alien planet, the 3D labyrinth, and the Momo game. Also the Administrator's room, but Thalia visits it early enough, not in a later part of the game. "Minus green": the creatures of the alien planet are green and shaped somewhat like minus sign, I tried talking to them, doesn't help.
You are very, very close. You have all the pieces, you just need to put them together. Also, regarding minus green:
Google is your friend. ;)
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: BunnyShoggoth on 08 Feb 2018, 23:15
Wow, I've figured it out, thank you very much!!! For anyone else who wants to cheat:

Once you arrive to the alien planet, TALK TO YOURSELF.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Akril15 on 08 Feb 2018, 23:50
Congratulations!

Something else you might have noticed:
If you ever try talking to Thalia in just about any other room in the game at any other time, she never says anything like "I haven't gotten to the point where I feel like talking to myself", she says "Sorry, I don't feel like talking right now". ;)
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: splat44 on 14 Feb 2018, 22:27
About pillars:
I know there're two of them but cannot figure out sequence for those pegs, When looking at first one, I know numbers: 9, 8, 2 and 7, trying setting pegs accordingly is hard, any comments
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: Wiggy on 15 Feb 2018, 00:04
Re: Pegs on pillars.

The number is the total number of pegs to be depressed - i.e. 9 means all pegs, 8 all but one etc.
Title: Re: Adventure - Welcome to the genre
Post by: splat44 on 15 Feb 2018, 03:36

Thanks!
I was so sure it had something to do with placements as seen on a digital clock!

Re: Pegs on pillars.

The number is the total number of pegs to be depressed - i.e. 9 means all pegs, 8 all but one etc.