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General Discussion / Re: Doctor Who Finale - what does everyone think?
« on: 21 May 2013, 21:43 »man i have bearly seen season 8, i am waiting for it to show up on netflix
You will have to wait a long time. They haven't even started filming it yet

Here are my thoughts... They did a bang up job with the finale. I am not too thrilled with Moffat as a writer. I think he is cocky and I liked Doctor Who because it was British. However, and I am allowed to say this because I am American..., I feel that Moffat Americanized D-WHO a bit too much and got rid of a lot of the camp. I get that he wants to draw a larger audience and it probably helped the show from not being cancelled, however, I miss the Eccleston/Tennant time frame. I like Matt Smith, he is a GREAT doctor. Definitely one of my favorites, although David Tennant is number one in my book. But I just am not enjoying it like I was for the first 4 series/seasons. I want Russel T Davies back.
Going back to the Finale. I think it was great. I was happy to see all 11 doctors and even the scene with the Doctor stealing the Tardis which was never televised before. It was great. Clara's story, while not my favorite of the companions story, had a great resolve. However, I am convinced that she is River Song in some form. Don't know how or why, but just too much of her feels like River Song to me. I like Clara. She has a fun personality and she cares for the Doctor, so she is very enjoyable to watch. She is no Donna Noble, but thats ok.
As for River, I think she gives balance to the Doctor and I am very happy they introduced her to the series. I wish there were more with David Tennant, but thats ok. I liked how they resolved the post-library episode of River, but I am sure we have not seen the last of pre-library episode River.
Though the episode was 15 minutes long, it went by very quickly. That means I enjoyed it. My wife and I watched it 3 times the day it was released on Amazon. (Watch the Amazon episode as the BBC America and Itunes version removes the David Tennant scene). The whisper men were ok. Everyone said they would become a new favorite. While they weren't that bad, they are no way near being my favorites. While the relationship between Madame Vastra, Jenny and Strax is an unusual one, I enjoy having them be in the series and would hope they keep having them. I wouldn't even mind a spin-off of the characters. My favorite parts of the finale all really had to do with Strax, from the part where he didn't realize that River was a woman, to the part where he said this:
Strax: Do not worry, we have the advantage, they are unarmed.
Jenny: So are we!
Strax: Do not divulge our military secrets!
Or something along those lines.. Either way, it was funny.
As for John Hurt.. My only gripe with the episode was this part: "INTRODUCING JOHN HURT AS THE DOCTOR". What was that text supposed to be about? We know he was the Doctor. It was unnecessary and seemed to be another trademark Moffat move. I will admit, in a non-campy way, Moffat is a brilliant writer and I love most of his stuff. I mean, have you watched Sherlock??? But he is just too cocky and tends to ruin or convert anything that wasn't his by Moffatizing it.
Back to John Hurt. To me, I believe he represents the 8th Doctor with Paul McGann. He is the only Doctor in which we do not know what happens throughout his history. In fact, he was only in the TV Movie after immediately regenerating from Sylvestor McCoy. I just think of the first few episodes with Christopher Eccleston where he has no idea what he looks like, hinting that he had just recently regenerated. I do not believe then that John Hurt represents the 9th Doctor. So there is a whole gap between 8 and 9. I believe Doctor 8 had at some point forsaken his name and destroyed the Time Lords/Daleks during the Time war. The time war hadn't begun until after the 8th Doctor had come to be and before the he regenerated into the 9th Doctor. People are talking about a possible regeneration between 8 and 9. Its possible, but I just don't think so. Matt Smith signed on to Series 8 and that will be his last most likely, having him regenerate into Doctor 13 then if John Hurt was the real 9 which would mean that the series could end or they would have to come up with a very good explanation for a 13th regeneration. Plus, take a look at the clothing that John Hurt was wearing. It was nearly identical to what Paul McGann wore in the tv Movie.
