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Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« on: 26 Feb 2004, 22:16 »
Finally done! Download it here:

*** http://www.agagames.com/temp/InstallLSL2pc.exe ***

This is the final version. Bug reports will still be considered, but not fixed with the same urgency. Thank you and good night.

And here's a message for Timosity - Do you realise that thanks to us, ALL Larry games are now Point and Click? Way to go!
« Last Edit: 04 Jul 2004, 10:43 by redruM »
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #1 on: 26 Feb 2004, 23:11 »
hmm... download transfer rate is 1,30KB per second... that's really slow...

I'll go sleeping now, and if I recieved it all tomorrow, I'll host it for a few days at my server ok? I'll post the link in this thread when I'm awake  :-*

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #2 on: 27 Feb 2004, 00:43 »
I uploaded it to agagames, I couldn't let anyone else be forced to sit for hours to download it :P

I edited the original post to add the link.
« Last Edit: 27 Feb 2004, 00:43 by AGA »

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #3 on: 27 Feb 2004, 03:34 »
Downloading it now, the faster mirror...
What do you mean ALL Larry games are point n click? Have you made a point n click version of Larry 3 as well?? I really want to see that! LSL3 is one of my favourites!
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #4 on: 27 Feb 2004, 03:42 »
Karius:

And here's a message for Timosity - Do you realise that thanks to us, ALL Larry games are now Point and Click? Way to go!

So, yes and no, he's not making a LSL3 point'n click but Timosity IS, I think currently there's a playable demo already, read this thread.

I just downloaded this LSL2 and had a sneak peek, nice work! Seems to be very faithful to the original, I think I won't get that parser bug nightmareon that game anymore!

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #5 on: 27 Feb 2004, 05:10 »
Excellent redruM,

I've D/L it and I'll play it over the weekend sometime.

Congrats again on the big effort

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #6 on: 27 Feb 2004, 06:22 »
Thanks for the offer, Minimi, and thanks AGA too! I'll edit the entry in the games page to also support the mirror.

BTW, AGA, I noticed you renamed the file. Is it still the install program? Daft question, probably, but I'm a suspicion person, don't read me the wrong way.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #7 on: 27 Feb 2004, 06:36 »
seems it's not needed anymore to mirror  ;) gj Aga, I'll try out the game today...

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #8 on: 27 Feb 2004, 06:37 »
BTW, AGA, I noticed you renamed the file. Is it still the install program? Daft question, probably, but I'm a suspicion person, don't read me the wrong way.

Yes it is, I had downloaded it from AGA's mirror, he probably just wanted to rename it to better reflect the content of it.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #9 on: 27 Feb 2004, 07:02 »
Yeah, it's exactly the same file, I'm just anal about the way I store my AGS games, so I renamed it :)

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #10 on: 27 Feb 2004, 08:44 »
Yeah, it's exactly the same file, I'm just anal about the way I store my AGS games, so I renamed it :)

In some cases spaces in filenames can cause problems. It's a good practise to never use spaces/non-alphanumeric characters in filenames that are distributed via internet.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #11 on: 27 Feb 2004, 12:05 »
Oh? I know it makes the URL look messy, what with the %s that get added, but I never realised it could cause problems. I'll bear that in mind, thanks.

About the game itself, it's awesome. It's a very, very good recreation of the original game, all the animations are spot-on, the music, the hotspots, everything. Excellent. If only you'd redrawn the graphics in VGA-style, it'd be even more awesome.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #12 on: 28 Feb 2004, 10:22 »
The game won't seem to download for me  :(

Iron man, the last few posts in my thread by other users have magically disappeared too! Must be a bug or something.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #13 on: 28 Feb 2004, 10:41 »
Darren - Right-click and Save As.

Also - I must have done something I shouldn't, because all the changes I made yesterday have been edited. I'm sorry. But among all the changes, was this notice -

The patch 1.1 is now available. Download it from my website, http://www.freewebs.com/skimbleshanks. Use it to patch the main download files.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #14 on: 28 Feb 2004, 10:44 »
I only ever played the first Larry game, so I am really looking forward to this. I never played Larry 3 or any after that because I wanted to play the second one first, but I coun't find it anywhere.

So hurrah!

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #15 on: 28 Feb 2004, 12:26 »
Yeah, this is really good. Great work. I'm enjoying it. I am, however, stuck because I can't find Larry's room on the cruise ship map. Not sure where to click to get there. Any advice?

Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #16 on: 28 Feb 2004, 13:04 »
By the way i finished the game yesterday.All went smooth.
For the room of larry, do not count on the mouse,
because it is quite tricky to enter rooms with it from the map system. You'd better use the cursor keys to navigate larry.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #17 on: 28 Feb 2004, 13:39 »
I definitely haven't deleted or edited any threads. Unless one of the other moderators did (which I doubt, since they don't really do much to moderate this forum), there's been some sort of technical error, I suppose... I promise never touched this thread except to add the mirror link into the first post.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #18 on: 28 Feb 2004, 13:43 »
Oh. Ok. than. I'll re-edit the first post to reflect the new patch.

ANd, about the ship's map - glitchy, ain't it? AGS's pathfinding still isn't perfect, at least not on such small walkable areas. If you want to use the mouse there, be sure to click EXACTly on the place you want to go to, at the level of Larry's feet. Sorry, there was nothing I could do about this.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #20 on: 28 Feb 2004, 14:44 »
But... but... noooooooOooo!!!!

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when i answered "Yes" to the girl that came when Larry was sunbathing they ran off the screen then the game crashed

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #21 on: 28 Feb 2004, 15:17 »
You need to download and install the patch, Inkoddi.

BTW, I've just playtested on a different system and found no less than 9 bugs, so expect another patch!
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #22 on: 28 Feb 2004, 15:48 »
For the room of larry, do not count on the mouse,
because it is quite tricky to enter rooms with it from the map system. You'd better use the cursor keys to navigate larry.
Thanks for the tip, that sorted me out. Gotta say, I'm really impressed by this remake. The subtle animations and the extensive coding. Infact, you've inspired me right now! Really great effort. Well done. Havent completed yet, but I'm enjoying it.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #23 on: 28 Feb 2004, 17:08 »
Did you put the patch into the original download?  :)

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #24 on: 28 Feb 2004, 19:21 »
good job!  :D

I finished the patched game and noticed few bugs:

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1-"death cutscenes" loops : in the swimming pool, along the cliff (The only way to escape is ALT+X)

          2- pathfinding: the ship map...I got berserk!

          3- X-ray in the airport: after the bomb explosion, something went horribly wrong with the Xray device: confusion beetween extern views and intern views, with luggages (I saw the intern view of the cat-bag and the extern view of a normal luggage)

          4- Suits: when you wear the swim suit, why , in his pockets, there's still the swim suit -and not the normal suit?

         

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #25 on: 28 Feb 2004, 21:20 »
I'm stuck. Can someone help me out?

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Everytime I get on the moving floor in the airport, it always says I've missed my flight! Is the game on a timer from a certain point, and if so when from? Or have I missed something - bomb's blown up, got the parachute, got the pin from the food.

Thanks

Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #26 on: 28 Feb 2004, 23:20 »
Add spoiler tag for Hidden:
I had this problem when FIRSTLY showed the ticket upstairs, then went down to get the parachute
and then again upstairs.
If you did not do this mistake, then the only thing that
comes to my mind is that perhaps you should
slow down the game speed from the options menu?
« Last Edit: 28 Feb 2004, 23:21 by iron_man »

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #27 on: 29 Feb 2004, 00:19 »
Add spoiler tag for Hidden:
How do you stuff the money in Larry's bikini top?

nope!

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #28 on: 29 Feb 2004, 00:30 »
soya.sauce & iron maiden:

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Maybe, there is a timer...but you have plenty of time to pick up all the stuff: bobby pin, parachute...Soya, did you buy a ticket?

AGA:

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strange but I could'nt use money on the bikini top in this version....instead,I used the soap on the top -inventory- when Larry is in the guest room
« Last Edit: 29 Feb 2004, 00:32 by nope! »

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #29 on: 29 Feb 2004, 01:18 »
Thanks for the help. Completed it.
[hint]I just got the pin and parachute before I picked up the ticket then got the ticket last.[/hint]
Great game!

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #30 on: 29 Feb 2004, 08:41 »
nope! - Pathfinding - I feel I can safely blame that one on AGS. It's gotten better, but it's always been its ONE issue.
           - Suit - The original didn't have the graphics, so I chose to do it that way.
           - bugs - thanks for the input, they'll be corrected in v1.2.

Sidewalk timer -
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Like in the original, the timer starts counting as soon as the clerk has sold Larry a ticket. You can't waste time from then on.


AGA -
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That was one of the little things I decided to scratch from the original. In this version, you can only stuff it with the soap.

General feedback - Thanks everyone. I am very glad to know that those of you who never could enjoy this game because of its parser can play it through now, that's why I remade Larry 2 in the first place!
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #31 on: 29 Feb 2004, 09:58 »
I haven't tried the patched version yet, but I didn't find anything wrong after the airport.

As far as the timer goes in the airport, It isn't possible at the 'default' speed to make it in time, even if you already have the pin and parachute (before you get the bomb and ticket), and get to the walkway as fast as possible (literally just walk there, including showing passport etc)

so the timer needs to give you more time. It does work if you adjust Larry's walking speed, but you should still have it at lerast so the default speed is possible.

I'll have a go at the patched version later to see if those bugs I emailed you are all fixed.

*as much as you'll hate doing it, I'd still recommend fixing up the cliff, I know it might be something to do with regions, I had some similar problems at the beach in LSL3, but after lots of tweaking you might be able to get it right. (remember that having something eg. a region or walkable area that is only a few pixels wide can cause problems in AGS especially on a bend where pixels diagonal to each other will probably be the culprits)

It is actually quite regular that you get stuck at this point (there is a few points that this happens on the second last turn) and you have to press ALT-X to exit, load the game and restore the closest game.

It is possible to avoid if you click the mouse in the right spots, but as you know exactly where to click (and I figured out where the best places to click were) it's probably hard to get stuck.

Over all, an Excellent conversion, and I noticed the reference to my up coming sequel.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #32 on: 29 Feb 2004, 10:06 »
You know what, Timosity? I finally found a way to fix the cliff! And I think EVERYTHING'S all right now, I DO believe I've got all the bugs trashed! So I'll soon upload a version 2.0.

BTW, I tried it in a different PC at default speed (Larry's timer at the airport). It gave me no trouble whatsoever, but what the heck, a little more time can't hurt. I'll add some.

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Over all, an Excellent conversion
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #33 on: 29 Feb 2004, 12:20 »
It could be possible that the cpu speed has something to do with it, cause I'm running a Pentium4 2.6Ghtz machine, and as I said, I couldn't make it when all I had to do was walk from the ticket booth to the walkway without stopping.

It must be hard programming anything on computers with the amount of different hardware, software, screen resolutions, cpu speed, font sizes etc, there are, to take it all into consideration is probably impossible to make perfect, I guess that's another reason there will always be bugs, cause what works fine on one machine, won't on another.

I also have a problem on my machine, which has been a confusing bug that CJ doesn't even know the reason behind yet. It involves skipping cutscenes, It does crash on my machine if I press ESC straight away to skip the intro in LSL2, but if I wait a few seconds before I press ESC it skips fine.

I have this problem on my machine in skipping a few cutscenes in LSL3 (and on my old machine & on others there's no problem), I haven't played many games with skippable cutscenes yet on my new machine, but I'm sure it's a consistent problem. I guess time will tell.

« Last Edit: 29 Feb 2004, 12:57 by iron_man »

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #35 on: 29 Feb 2004, 12:57 »
Whoa. Snap that guy up, Tim. Just how much more work would replacing all the graphics involve?

Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #36 on: 29 Feb 2004, 13:21 »
I'm having trouble applying the sunscreen.

I applied just after Larry jumps into the lifeboat but he still gets burned up. Says its not waterproof.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #37 on: 29 Feb 2004, 13:25 »
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Hmm... wait until the lifeboat has left the ship, there's about 30 seconds before the close-up boat sequence begins, where Larry is sort of drifting away from the ship in the lifeboat. That's when I did it... You also need to put the wig on then too/hide]

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #38 on: 29 Feb 2004, 13:27 »
I can't understand whether this sunscreen thing is a misunderstanding or an actual bug...

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What SHOULD happen is, if you apply the sunscreen at ANY TIME AFTER you dived in the pool, you're safe. You still need the wig, of course. Isn't this the way it goes?
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #39 on: 01 Mar 2004, 00:34 »
i suspect its a bug.

I tried what AGA said already.

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I applied the sunscreen when larry was in the lifeboat just before the close up and the wig. The wig seemed to work OK.

Logically, this method should work.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #40 on: 01 Mar 2004, 06:23 »
I still haven't managed to replicate anything! Deltamatrix, could you send me a savegame, or something? Or a recording?
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #41 on: 01 Mar 2004, 07:10 »
quote from Deltamatrix:
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I'm having trouble applying the sunscreen.

I applied just after Larry jumps into the lifeboat but he still gets burned up. Says its not waterproof.

Yes, this is the same one I reported, It must be something to do with not applying sunscreen after you swim & when you try to apply it in the lifeboat it doesn't work (and that is in the time you are moving away from the ship, it says something like you apply sunscreen to your face and neck).

I still haven't managed to replicate anything! Deltamatrix, could you send me a savegame, or something? Or a recording?

I've still got a saved game from when this happened to me, I kept it just incase I had to upload it.

I don't have a server that I can hotlink from & the file is about 1.3MB, so I'll email it to you. Note: the save game is from the version before the patch.

Edit: I sent 2 emails to your hotmail, 1 was the save game at 1.3MB, then I realised that I should have zipped it, the 2nd one is 36.5KB

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #42 on: 02 Mar 2004, 06:44 »
Ah, kay. Thanks Timosity, I get it now. I couldn't load the savegame (version 1.0 was made with the previous AGS beta, and 2.0 with the newest, so you shouldn't be able to load old savegames into IT either), but your description of the problem helped me. It's fixed, I'll upload the patch for v2.1 as soon as I can.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #43 on: 05 Mar 2004, 05:55 »
i am unable to download the game..... the site has exceeded its bandwidth..... where can i get the game?

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #44 on: 05 Mar 2004, 06:31 »
Er, AGA's mirror. It's both in the first post on the thread, and on the game's page.

The patch, however, can't be downloaded until the bandwidth is reset - like I say in the first post, that's the ninth of each month.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #45 on: 08 Mar 2004, 14:12 »
This is truly great ;D

I'm an old fan of Sierra Games and really want to express my gratitude to the one behind this revival!

I'm having a problem, but the walkthroughs available to me cannot give me a solution:
After arriving on the first island and after changing into the bikini - I'm not able to put either the money or the soap into the bikinitop! Anyone got an answer for me  ???

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #46 on: 08 Mar 2004, 21:48 »
Thanks for the complements, Kropell. I did this for people like you to enjoy!

Add spoiler tag for Hidden:
You can't stuff the money in this remake, only the soap - and you've got to be wearing the bikini and be on the guest room. AND the soap must go into the bikini top IN THE INVENTORY, not just click at Larry!
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #47 on: 10 Mar 2004, 15:23 »
What a great remake! Thanks a lot. It is a long time since I last played Larry 2 (Ah, the memories!  ::) )

Some things that are great:
- The addition of new music and sound add a lot the game
- The save game system, which allows you to delete and replace games (This seems to be difficult in AGS)
- the possibility of changing Larry's speed independently of overal game speed (this wasn't in the original game)
(- and of course the mouse control, but this was the reason for this remake)

I just started playing, but I already have a few more or less important suggestions (I compared some things with the original version):

- In the original game was a picture of Larry in the "Game Over" Screen
- Also in the original were additional menu options like
-- a Filth Level meter: It was rather useless and changed only a few words (I think), but it was a nice joke like the boss screen
-- the about screen, which showed Al Lowe torturing his programmers.

- When clicking on a door, Larry walks to the door, stops and the door opens. For entering you have to click again. This was not necessary in the old game, where Larry continued walking automatically after the door opening.
- There doesn't exist an "Exit"-Icon. For example, when sitting on the bench in the television station, you have to click in the menue on "Stand" to stand up. In some other original Sierra games, in such cases you just click some times the right mouse button, until the "Exit"-Icon appears (which replaces temporally the "Walk"-Icon). At this point left-clicking will exit the screen/situation, which is a little bit faster than using the menue.
- There is a slight spelling error, when looking at the television station:
  " KROD originates many of your favorite..."
- When shot in the shop by the clerk, Larry just falls down, in the original version he fell out of the picture (which I thought pretty funny)
- the camera man in the show behaves a little bit differently. In your version he changes between a spot on the left side and one in the middle of the right side.
In the original game he also moved from contestant to contestant (but didn't move to Barabara when she asked a question, like he does in your version)
- Just an idea, but maybe you can add some more fake applause sounds when the applause sign is lit in the show

Once again, I really like this remake.
Maybe some of my suggestions would be helpful to you. I am sure I will add some of them later, when I continue playing!



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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #48 on: 10 Mar 2004, 20:22 »
OK, I played a little bit further and have another bunch of recomendations.

- First a couple of typos:
-- When you try to pay for your swimsuit at Molto Lira the woman replies:
 "But is that trivial, little clearance item all your are going to pu[/i]rchase today?"
-- When you get caught by mom, while opening her drawer she says:
"...like you ever since my Mister had[/i] his big one..."
-- After this and also when you walk near mom sitting on her bed:
"...Mama proceeds to have her way wi[/i]th you repeatedly..."

- Concering the game play:
-- When you save a game and enter right away a name, the game is saved in a new game slot.
When you click on a slot and enter a name, this specific game slot will be overwritten.
The problem is, that even, if you havn't select a slot, the last saved game will be highlighted, so you can't judge from the look of the save box if you are about to save a new game or overwrite the last one.
It would be better if a slot is only highlighted when  you first select it. I accidently overwrote same games I wanted to keep.
-- When you enter the swimming pool on the ship with your leisure suit and you drown, all buttons on the "game over" box a greyed out, so you can't click anything anymore and are forced to quit the game by pressing "Alt-F4".
-- on the map screen of the ship it is very difficult with the mouse to enter your cabin, the bridge and the life boat area. You have to click exactly on the foot line and not on the area itself. It is also a little bit difficult withe the mouse to enter the ship on the walkway (after you showed your ticket and passport). Maybe you should widen the clickable areas (I don't know anything about scripting in AGS, so I don't know if this would be easily done.)
-- You can't access the game menue in cutscenes like in the original game. This way you could skip for example a death cutscene, which you already know, and restore or quit right away.
-- I don't know if this is easily possible with AGS, but it would be nice if you could support local keyboard layouts for different countries.
-- I found another application for the "Filth level" slider in the original game: When you daydream in the first barber shop, you can see a nude couple running along and a dog "releaving" at your leg. With low filth levels, there would be black bars in both scenes.

- Some things which were in the original game but not in your version:
-- After you enter the harbour with the ship and the bird starts to fly it tries to hit larry with a turd when it flies over him.
-- When you dive in the swimming pool on the ship, Larry sometimes accidently "relieves" himself. Also the guy in the tub "releases some gases"
-- In your version the time span after which it turn to night and larry gets automatically to bed after entering his cabin (and thus getting killed) seems to be even shorter than in the original version. In my opinion it was already too short before.

- Some ideas for extra sounds:
-- When you try to cross the bridge, the captain gets shot by a dart and the ship crashes. A crashing sound would be nice.
-- Also funny would be a "whirling" (not sure, who to call it) sound, when Larry swirls around in the chair after being poisoned by the bar tender on the ship.
-- When Larry jumps into the life boat, you could use a comic sound for jumping and some thumping noise, when he lands in the boat.


Phew, a long list. I hope you would consider some of the topics!

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #49 on: 10 Mar 2004, 21:42 »
Whew, and here I thought it was all over... ;)

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-- When you enter the swimming pool on the ship with your leisure suit and you drown, all buttons on the "game over" box a greyed out, so you can't click anything anymore and are forced to quit the game by pressing "Alt-F4".
THAT one I STILL haven't managed to fix!

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-- on the map screen of the ship it is very difficult with the mouse to enter your cabin, the bridge and the life boat area. You have to click exactly on the foot line and not on the area itself.
AGS' pathfinding isn't perfect, it's got a long history of not being perfect, and it DOES have this problem when one-pixel-high walkables are concerned.

Filth Level - I've cut it completely. I had noticed the difference, but I thought it wasn't worth it.

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-- -- After you enter the harbour with the ship and the bird starts to fly it tries to hit larry with a turd when it flies over him.
I never got around to adding that, so I thought I just wouldn't. Basically, that's it. No excuse, I'm afraid. ;)

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-- When you dive in the swimming pool on the ship, Larry sometimes accidently "relieves" himself. Also the guy in the tub "releases some gases"
That IS in my version. But they're easter eggs, so it's likely they won't be seen easily. It takes a lot of luck to see them.

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-- In your version the time span after which it turn to night and larry gets automatically to bed after entering his cabin (and thus getting killed) seems to be even shorter than in the original version. In my opinion it was already too short before.
Actually, it is, as I remember, the very same time span - 10 minutes. But of course that by raising the Game Speed, you also accelerate the timer... that's why you can set Larry's Speed.

I should have made you a beta-tester. Well, I don't have much time right now,. but I promise you most of the things you spotted WILL be fixed, thanks a lot! :D
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #50 on: 10 Mar 2004, 23:54 »
 
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Whew, and here I thought it was all over...
Sorry, to disappoint you, but as I continue with the game I notice more and more things   :D
By the way, I hope you also noticed my first post, since you only referred to my second one.
Ok, here it goes:

-Some more typos:
-- In the resort guest room, when you answer yes to the latino maid, she sais:
" If I can make it better in any way, please don't hes[/i]itate to ask."
-- When caught by the KGB on the beach with blonde hair but still wearing the suit:
"... We vill mak[/i]e you ze best-looking..."
-- On the same spot caught with flat bikini:
"Ve caught ju, ju pawn of the prol[/i]et[/i]ariat."
-- in the resort barber shop during the body waxing procedure:
"Once again, he's got you trapp[/i]ed in the chair."
-- When looking at the cliff (after passing the agents):
"...Be careful, Larry; a fall from this height could be[/i] fatal!"

- Gameplay issues:
-- When you jump into the swimming pool in the ship you had to start to "swim" in the original game. Otherwise you would drown and die. (I guess you cut that out by purpose, because it was difficult to implement with mouse control?)
-- You may speed up the jump of Larry into the life boat a little bit, as it looks like Larry is flying.
-- At the nude beach, when the henchette of Dr. Nonookee stands up, the bikini bottom is already lying there. This item should only be there when you return from your first barber session.
-- When you get caught by the two KGB guys on the beach, the one that caught you, just stops like he is supposed to do, but the other one just keeps on running in a strange pattern around Larry.
-- The Inventory-Icons, when you use them, are way too big. It would be better if you would use different icons for displaying in the inventory and for using on the screen. They should be at maximum a quarter the size.
I know, that the original mouse-controlled Sierra games used the same icons for both purposes, but their icons were much smaller than the ones used in the earlier mouse/keyboard SCI-games (like Larry 2).
If I could be of any help in converting or redrawing, please write so.
-- Just a suggestion, nothing really important: Maybe you should add a "Use-Button" to the inventory box.
The same action is now done, when clicking the object on Larry, but in the suggested way it would be more convenient, especially in the life boat scene where you have to click the gigantic wig icon (see above) on the small three-pixel Larry icon, which is made even more difficult, because the Larry-icon is moving.
-- The "Exit" cursor (which I wrote about in my first post) could also be applied on the situation, when jumping (at exiting) the life boat without pulling the lever first and the jungle scene


- Music/sound issues
-- The machine sound on the ship is played for both lower decks. It would be more authentic, if it would only be audible in the lowest floor in front of his cabin.
-- Because in many rooms now there is constantly music playing, you removed some of the jingles. In some cases this could be helpful, for example there was a special jingle in every room where there was a henchette of Dr. Nonookee.
Another example is in the forest, where some alteration of the "Jaws"-Theme is played, when the guy with the strange head appears.
Also there were sound effects, when Larry (almost) "falls" of the cliff (after the KGB agents).
-- The volume of the different music pieces and some sound effects differs a lot. (I know, you just got the pieces unaltered from different games but maybe you can play them in AGS with different volumes, so that the effective total volume of all pieces is the same.)
For example the music, when you "play" with the latino lady in the resort bed room is too silent (especially since directly after this you hear the "game over" melody which is much louder.)
On the contrary in the barber shop the music is way too loud. (By the way, your hair cutter really plays Cranberries?). For example you nearly can't hear the high score sound or Larry's crying during the body waxing procedure. The last sound should be somewhat louder (since it is not a nice thing happening to Larry, hehe   ;D )

Ok, I fear, I have to bother you again with another post in the future, when I continue playing ;)

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #51 on: 11 Mar 2004, 06:44 »
Kay, I'll fix all that I can (and may I note that your suggestions are all considerably useful, and I am currently knocking my head against the nearest wall for not having thought of them), but as concerns the inventory items, I'd just like you to note that each item's hotspot it highlighted, that's why I suffered the items themselves to be that large.

And I saw in your first post you mention something about the way Larry behaves concerning doors - you know, that was one of the many problems of allowing Larry to have a different speed from the rest of the game. There was no other way to code around it.

I may, however, remove "Change Larry's Speed" and use AGS' new "SkipUntilCharacterFrame". What do you all think about that, people?
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #52 on: 11 Mar 2004, 11:15 »
OK, another morning report.  :D

-First again some more typos. (By the way, I know from my own experience how difficult it can be to spot your own spelling mistakes, even if you read the same text five times. Your brain sometimes does'nt want to see them.)
-- When looking at the airport doors:
"Inside, you see lines of businessmen wa[/i]ting to buy tickets."
-- buying the insurance (parachute) in the airport:
"Well, you suppose_[/i], a parachute would be..."
-- right after the take off of the airplane when Ken talks to you for the first time:
"...says the man beside you, in his[/i] too-loud voice...."
-- While looking at the passengers in the first class compartment:
"They stare back at[/i] you, thinking..."
-- After entering the cockpit:
"Carrumb[/i]a!"..."

- concerning gameplay:
-- After conquering the cliffs and before entering the airport, Larry automatically change clothes. I guess you did it by purpose, since you don't see Larry in this scene and therefore can't click on him.
Maybe you could reintegrate this scene, since it contains another puzzle element (with points) and another funny death scene. If you'll use the "USE" button in the inventory like I suggested earlier this would be no problem.  ;)
If not, you may allow Larry to change at the airport, where you can see him (even if the original game didn't allow that).
(-- I have to disappoint you a little, but the cliff problem, which other people experienced, happened to me too. I got stuck and I had to reload the game. But it only happened once and I couldn't reproduce it.)
-- I also got stumped for a short time whith the soap puzzle like other people. Maybe you should allow clicking with the soap on Larry, because as the player you want to fill the top, which Larry is wearing. But in this case the "USE"-Button (if you would add such  ;) ) may not be supposed to work to make the puzzle not too easy to solve by accident.
-- it is rather difficult to grab the suitcases in the airport, because they have to be directly behind Larry, where you can't click them easily with Larry in front. In the original game it was possible to already catch them, when they were directly on the left side of Larry. Especially in this point&click version this would make things way easier.
-- When the screen is shaking (like for example in the time bomb explosion) it shakes only in vertical directions, in the original game there was also sideway movement. (I don't know if this could be a AGS limitation?)
-- It could be difficult to click on your seat in the airplane: The upper border of the clicking area for the seat should be extended. I very often selected "Ken" even if I clicked on the upper seat graphic.
-- While seating you have to click "Stand" in the menu (see my older posts about "Exit".)
-- The stewardesses, when serving drinks, just drive to the middle and stop instead of moving back and forth like in the original.
-- When you havn't played the original game, it is very hard to guess, that there could be an emergency exit in the corner. In the original game this was hinted at in the text: When you tried to look at the toilet door with "look door", the game would tell you, that actually there are three doors, one of them an emergency exit. After this you would just go search for it.
Maybe you could include a similar text when you just look at the room in general or some of the doors.
-- Also in the original: When you enter the area around the emergency exit and can't reach the rest rooms, some guys in the background change places. This kind of annoying joke is missing.
-- when dropping down with the parachute, it opens automatically skipping the death scenes, when opening the parachute too late or not at all. (This also can be done with the "USE" button ;))
(-- All the timed sequences (for example on the ship, before plane departure, plane landing, pause between Ken's talking) seem much shorter than in the original. I saw in the forum that some other people had the same problem. This could be difficult since the timer seem to be highly dependant on the indivdual computer configuration.)

- And now many, many sound issues. But since these are only suggestions it is up to you if you keep them or toss them.  ;D
-- A fact which I liked very much in your version is that you added outdoor music which gets louder when you enter the specific room. The only problem is that the outdoor music volume is too low.
I noticed this especially in the airport barber shop. While in my opinion the music in the shop itself is too loud (see the last post from me above), the music in front of this is barely audible. This is sad, since therefore you can't recognise very well the extra Cranberries joke, you added. Maybe you should lower the difference of indoor/outdoor volume in all these scenes.
-- Maybe you can add an extra MIDI music volume slide, since this is dependent on your sound card and not the same on all systems (in contrary to the WAVE volume).
-- You can hear airplane noises in the airport barber shop, which distracts from the "All barber shop are the same" theme.
-- You should add some exaggerated dramatic sound or jingle when taking the time bomb (acutally this would be good for all occasions when large text is shown: At the moment I only remember the following scenes: the intro with "Dr. Nonookee" and some "special" comment, when you first see Kalalau on the beach)
-- When carrying the bomb there ought to be a ticking sound (like in the original) and maybe also a suspenseful music.
-- a drop sound followed by gargling when you accidently eat the bobby pin of the "Blue P ate Special"
-- a machine whirling sound, when bying the insurance (parachute)
(-- The sound you used, when Larry's "mind wanders" is really good!)
-- in the airplane you should add a background hissing/humming noise (from the air conditioner).
-- The plane take off sound could be longer and louder.
-- There should be a high pitched gong before the captain's announcements.
-- There may also be a special jingle before the stewardess speaks to the passengers
-- It would be funny if you could add a comic rubber dragging (difficult to describe) noise when entering/exiting your seat and a kind of "plop" when you finally succeed.
-- a sound while your scalp is being removed by Ken (maybe an exaggerated ripping sound, or even some crying of Larry)
-- a chopping sound (from the ax) and maybe a thump after that (from the falling body) after entering the cockpit
-- a landing sound (plus tires hitting the pavement), when you stay too long in the plane
-- different clicking sounds when opening the lock, lever and door of the emergency exit
-- a loud hissing sound, after opening the door, followed by a sucking sound (vacuum cleaner) when Larry gets pulled out.
-- some falling sound (like you did in when falling in the jungle) when Larry drops into the sea
-- parachute opening noise.
-- you could make a sound of cracking and breaking branches, when landing in the jungle.
-- a cutting sound, when using the knife on the parachute
(-- The subsequently sound sequence you made of crying/falling/landing is really great!)

OK, be prepared for the next round  ;D

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #53 on: 13 Mar 2004, 11:25 »
Ok, I considered everything you said, but haven't corrected everything, for a different number of reasons. You'll find the new version doesn't have all the additions you suggested, but it's got the ones I thought were important.
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« Reply #54 on: 13 Mar 2004, 15:22 »
I just completed your game and must congratulate you again about this remake. Its really fun.
Had I know that there would be so many issues, I would have E-mailed you from the start, since I don't think these listings would be very insteresting to other people. But anyway as from now it would be better if we contact each other per E-Mail.
I didn't find your E-Mail-Adress on your profile page, so here is mine:
mxjgr.fakeadress@gmx.de
(just remove ".fakeadress" from the URL)

Interesting to know that you are actually from Portugal. I guessed before, that you might be from some spanish speaking country because of one of your typos ('nacional')
Afortunadamente, não falo muito bem o Português.  >:( ;)

Anyhow here are my latest findings. I will make an extra post/E-Mail later about sound/music issues, since I have a lot of ideas in this area! (Yes, this is a threat!  ;D)

OK, here goes nothing:

- Again the typos:
-- After falling down in the jungle:
"A fall like that would be enough, to break the average man's onkl[/i]unk!..."
-- Looking at the trees after the fall:
"... in the middle of a jungle on a tropical island[/i]?!"
-- and directly after this:
"The gro[/i]und here is unusually spongy."
-- during Kalalau's monologue after kissing:
"...; all of us here on Nontoonyt Island do[/i]..."
-- later in the monologue:
"... a megabuck deal with a large, multi-nat[/i]ional hotel..."
-- village, in front of the chief's hut (in all other parts of the village the sentence is OK), when looking at the plants:
"The dens[/i]e undergrowth of the jungle..."
-- chasm with the dead tree, when looking at the trees:
"...of the fern family, one of the first tru[/i]e trees..."
-- above the waterfall, looking at the room:
"...are only activated here on this e[/i]nchanted island."
-- during the final scenes; Larry on the radio:
"How about if I have some palm trees emit a cloud of fog to su[/i]rround the island,..."
-- in front of the Witch Doctor's hut, wedding ceremony:
"And finally moon[/i]walk across this dirt compound!"

- Gameplay issues:
-- A very small thing: when you order your ticket at the airport, your answers are displayed in the middle, the ones from the clerk at the top. But the last message of the dialogue which is spoken by the clerk is wrongly displayed also in the middle.
-- Maybe you shouldn't let Larry automatically crawl after seeing the killer bees, but require the player to use the hand icon on the ground or something like that.
-- There is a bug in the east part of the village:
When get hit by the wood chopper, after the "Game Over" box is displayed, the same text messages of the death scene appear once again!
-- All the inventory combinations (there aren't that many in this game) are only one way, for example you do have to use the bag on the rejuvenator, the other way around it won't work. It would be better if both solutions would be possible, since normally you just click the two items which you want to combine in some way together without regarding the correct order (at least I do this very often).
-- Maybe you should change Patty's hair to dark like it is in Larry 3, since you already changed the texts referring to this game (reffering to Timosity's remake)
-- And, at the end, instead of just suddenly quitting the game without any message (if you didn't play the original game before, you could assume that AGS might just have crashed!), you may display a big "THE END" sign (maybe from some other game), slowly fade the rest of the picture out and only quit after the player presses a key

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #55 on: 15 Mar 2004, 16:10 »
I simple cant get the binkini bottom :(, it isnt there.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #56 on: 15 Mar 2004, 20:24 »
I simple cant get the binkini bottom :(, it isnt there.
Did you already went to the barber shop? You have to get a hair cut first, otherwise the bikini bottom wouldn't appear.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #57 on: 15 Mar 2004, 20:52 »
Whoops, a bug... fear not, I'll soon have it fixed.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #58 on: 15 Mar 2004, 21:12 »
Whoops, a bug... fear not, I'll soon have it fixed.
Sorry, I didn't realise, that you already uploaded a new version!
Seems, that you corrected the previous bikini bottom bug, I mentioned (it was visible too early), a little bit too efficiently.  ;)

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #59 on: 15 Mar 2004, 21:21 »
There. Updated, the bug's fixed. Sorry 'bout that.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #60 on: 15 Mar 2004, 23:39 »
Could you get the patch hosted on this site? You're already exceeding your bandwidth again.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #61 on: 16 Mar 2004, 06:16 »
I stopped using the patch, it was not practical. Use the mirror, it also has the latest version.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #62 on: 18 Mar 2004, 10:17 »
I'm on the ship and can get to bar, barber or pool how do I get to my room? It won't let me go anywhere else.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #63 on: 18 Mar 2004, 10:24 »
This is a really nasty pathfinding problem of AGS. You have to click with your mouse cursor exactly on the green line (at the feet of Larry) in front of the room you want to enter.

Alternatively (and much easier) you can use the number key block to control Larry.


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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #64 on: 18 Mar 2004, 17:34 »
Ok, version 3.1 is ready. There's only one difference from the previous version, but I think you'll like it - I fixed the boat map for once and for all.

EDIT - Urgh, double posting. Sorry. Also, I've updated v3.1, it had a few bugs...
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« Reply #65 on: 19 Mar 2004, 11:10 »
Hi, good remake!
I've passed the game without any patch and noticed no serious bugs.
Now I'll test it with patch 2.1. It will be intresting to read what bugs doest it fix. May be you shoud create some .txt file to download with patch?

My notes about Point list.
It is possible to get 503 instead of 500 (but no matter how much you will gain after 500 it will be writeen at the top of the screen 500 of 500).
The difference is the following:
You get 6 points for giving flower to aiport's men (7 in original version)
You get 4 points fro pulling the ripcord (automatically) (0 points in original)

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #66 on: 19 Mar 2004, 14:26 »
One more - it would be good to see what version do you play (2.0, 2.1 or 3.1)

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« Reply #67 on: 19 Mar 2004, 19:19 »
Hmm, thanks for spotting it , An, but you're talking about an old version - I already updated that.

And as for your other suggestion - from v3.0 onward, the version number is indicated in the manual. Hey, better late than never!

Oh, and don«'t bother playing the patch, you'd do better to go ahead with v3.1
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« Reply #68 on: 19 Mar 2004, 23:57 »
Just downloaded the version 3.1 (I miseed the version 3.0 to download, but the installer says that 3/0 will be installed :-) ). I find the following bug: when being on a ship map the cursor WALK disappeares from menu and I also can't select it by the right click.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #69 on: 20 Mar 2004, 09:58 »
But may be it is not a bug. 'cause the icon appeares when you point one of the area where you need to go.

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #70 on: 20 Mar 2004, 10:51 »
Me again!
There is bug in 3.1 on cliffs between the beach and airport. Almost at the end I've been stuck sometimes (and only one time passed through). The game continues to gain points and write the messages. Only AlT+F4 and Ctrl+Alt+Del works :-) And Reset of course :-)

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #71 on: 20 Mar 2004, 13:08 »
There is bug in 3.1 on cliffs between the beach and airport. Almost at the end I've been stuck sometimes (and only one time passed through). The game continues to gain points and write the messages. Only AlT+F4 and Ctrl+Alt+Del works :-) And Reset of course :-)
Yes, I also told him that and he was not amused  ;)

If you look at the beginning of this thread you see that the problem was even more frequent before and redruM already did several things to fix it. Unfornately the problem still exists.  :(

Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #72 on: 20 Mar 2004, 18:14 »
Managed to get as far as on plane.  I have sick bag and given leaflet to passenger but can't do anything else. Is there a bug here, as it won't allow me to stand or walk?


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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #73 on: 20 Mar 2004, 18:19 »
Can't you stand even if you click "Stand" on the menu?

If you're using v3.0, then the STAND cursor won't appear - a glitch that's fixed on 3.1. But clicking on the menu should still make you stand...
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #74 on: 20 Mar 2004, 20:48 »
Errrrrrrr sorry 'scuse a streaming cold for not thinking of that one! This is one of the most frustrating games I think I've ever played...............been at swamp for about the last hour - how the heck do you cross that?   ???

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #75 on: 20 Mar 2004, 20:55 »
<laugh> Yeah, Larry 2 was true to Sierra's current hype - save early, save often, cause there are lots of walking deads and actual deaths!

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Remember that monkey you saw when you entered the room? HE didn't have any trouble, now did he?

Second hint -

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #76 on: 20 Mar 2004, 21:16 »
Aaarrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhh.  I'd been messing about in the swamp that long had forgotten about that little fellow!   ::)  Phewwwww got over that - only to met by some vines I can't get close enough too! Think I give up for today  ;D
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #77 on: 20 Mar 2004, 21:35 »
I don;y believe this game.................I swing over the using vines, grab loose one and then half my body disappears and I can't do anything.  Tried it a second time and the same thing happens..............is it me or is it another bug?

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« Reply #78 on: 20 Mar 2004, 21:51 »
???

That's a novel one. What happens, exactly? I think you're describing what happens when you
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« Reply #79 on: 21 Mar 2004, 10:30 »
I think thats what happening, I finish swinging land on the ground , and grab the loose vine and walk a couple of paces towards the beach then my body disappears and he says my feet are tingling.  It seems to be reading land as water!  I then just keep walking around with only the top half showing.


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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #80 on: 21 Mar 2004, 10:41 »
That's really odd, I can't even replicate the problem. Could you send me a savegame?

Is anyone else having this problem?
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #81 on: 21 Mar 2004, 15:50 »
Sending it over.............thanks.  

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #82 on: 21 Mar 2004, 17:39 »
Well, I loaded your savegame and I couldn't replicate the problem. I am COMPLETELY baffled!
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #83 on: 21 Mar 2004, 17:59 »
Been trying it again and think I know what the answer is - when I was getting him to swing I think I was too close to the water but it still let me swing and legs appeared to be normal until I dropped down - I also changed the speed I was running it at.  Thanks for taking the time to look at it though  ;)

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #84 on: 21 Mar 2004, 18:02 »
Oooohhhh, that's not supposed to happen! Thanks for this impromptu bug report!
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #85 on: 22 Mar 2004, 10:54 »
Hi redruM,
I'll congratulate you beforehand since I haven't had time to d/l and play it.

Bem, ja ha tempos que nao jogo qq jogo, mas o teu jogo tenho de jogar!!!


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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #86 on: 22 Mar 2004, 20:35 »
Bem, obrigadíssimo - mas talvez queiras esperar pela versão final? Jã tou com este jogo pela raiz dos cabelos, e daqui a uns dias mando cá para fora a versão finalíssima...
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #87 on: 22 Mar 2004, 21:38 »
Well, that's it. I've had enough, and this has taught me to FULLY and COMPLETELY beta-test a game before releasing it!

The available version is the FINAL.

Oh - and I'd like to take this opportunity to thank wintermute74 for his wonderfull post-release testing, and all of his suggestions that helped make it better. ANd to apologize to the entire community for this ridiculous many-versions foolishness, I should have just tested it throughly BEFORE releasing it... a mistake I won't repeat for sure. Oh well, learn with your errors.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #88 on: 23 Mar 2004, 21:53 »
In the FINAl version there is a very serious BUG!
I can't leave the area of the swimming pool at the ship. As I go south to leave it and I appear at it again...

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« Reply #89 on: 23 Mar 2004, 21:57 »
*groan* I can't believe I keep doing these things...

I'll get it fixed.

EDIT - Fixed.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #90 on: 26 Mar 2004, 01:21 »
Thank you for fixing..timer doesn't give me a problem in the airport any longer. Thanks again, redruM!
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #91 on: 28 Mar 2004, 21:26 »
ok....i'm on the boat, have used the suscreen and swum to get the bikini then came back up and tried to get out of the pool area (walk out of the room) but it just restarts in the same room. what the heck is going on? is it a bug or just me?

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« Reply #92 on: 28 Mar 2004, 21:30 »
ok....i'm on the boat, have used the suscreen and swum to get the bikini then came back up and tried to get out of the pool area (walk out of the room) but it just restarts in the same room. what the heck is going on? is it a bug or just me?

woopsi! just tried downloading the thing again...and it works...must've just missed the upload of the updated bug fix for this! anyway thanx!

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« Reply #93 on: 30 Mar 2004, 21:16 »
1st of all : great stuff. :)
2nd : i need help
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« Reply #94 on: 30 Mar 2004, 21:20 »
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Oh, dear, you should HAVE the bikini top by now! I hope you saved! Did you dive in the boat's swimming pool?

I'm sorry if the game is rather unforgiving, but so was the original. This is just a renewed interface.
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #95 on: 04 Apr 2004, 20:22 »
Wow! A preview in the latest issue of the Inventory (oh all right, it was just a paragraph saying it existed)... AND an addition to underdogs! No kidding!

Man, this feels sweet...

...er, all the bugs HAVE been taken care of... right?
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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #96 on: 10 Apr 2004, 13:02 »
I've just completed the remake, and I've got to say, nice work! It's obvious a lot of work has gone into this. It's a great example of what can be done with AGS, with a lot of time and ingenuity.
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« Reply #97 on: 12 Apr 2004, 07:19 »
*groan* I can't believe I keep doing these things...

I'll get it fixed.

EDIT - Fixed.
I just want to download the games but i cant find them any where which is shit , be cause i really enjoy playing this game

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Re:Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #98 on: 12 Apr 2004, 08:13 »
Go back to the first post in the thread and use the mirror. Or, go to www.agsforums.com/games.php, go to full-length games, find LSL2 and download from the mirror.
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« Reply #99 on: 22 Apr 2004, 13:26 »
Fantastic! Very much like the original, can't tell that it's not the real thing most of the time.

But I can't seem to find an "about" button in the game anywhere crediting Al Lowe and Sierra? You should credit them in the game, because all the material isn't your property.

Also, you could get sued (although unlikely by the looks of things at the moment, but it can happen) for this by the current owners of the Leisure Suit Larry game "franchizes" (or whatever it's called). As everybody knows, a new Leisure Suit Larry game is being developed by VU and imagine if they decide they want to release the classical Larry games with their new one? You'd most probably get sued.

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« Reply #100 on: 22 Apr 2004, 20:15 »
As for the first paragraph - Thanks a lot! I worked very hard for that precise thing to happen!

Second - There's a Disclaimer in the instalation program, and I believe one of sorts in the manual. In any case, I do refer, at several points, that none of it, except for the AGS port, is my creation. The biggest proof of these is the credits in the intro sequence, which I have left, for this purpose, untouched.

Third - Al Lowe has given me permission. I tried to check with Sierra, but could never contact them. If VU ever tries to sue me without a fair warning, I'll just stick all the disclaimers under their nose and remove my game from the web. If they give me fair warning, I'll simply remove it. And anyway, I'm pretty sure I saw this game on some abandonware sites some time ago, that was one of the reasons I thought was OK.
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« Reply #101 on: 23 Apr 2004, 03:06 »
Second - There's a Disclaimer in the instalation program, and I believe one of sorts in the manual. In any case, I do refer, at several points, that none of it, except for the AGS port, is my creation. The biggest proof of these is the credits in the intro sequence, which I have left, for this purpose, untouched.

Third - Al Lowe has given me permission. I tried to check with Sierra, but could never contact them. If VU ever tries to sue me without a fair warning, I'll just stick all the disclaimers under their nose and remove my game from the web. If they give me fair warning, I'll simply remove it. And anyway, I'm pretty sure I saw this game on some abandonware sites some time ago, that was one of the reasons I thought was OK.
Ah sorry! I never watched the introduction... ever... not even in the original Larry :o. Now I actually get the story too, thanks ;D. ... I guess the introduction is enough credit to the authors.

Anyway, I doubt it that you'll ever get sued for this. But you never know - I wouldn't worry though. Just wanted to know how you felt about it.

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« Reply #102 on: 23 Apr 2004, 03:11 »
Ah sorry! I never watched the introduction... ever... not even in the original Larry :o.
Not even when I used to play the original Larry 2, that is.

I'm sure everybody knows that Larry 2 isn't your creation and they all know that it was created by Sierra and Al Lowe. So the crediting thing isn't really a problem anyway, I just thought it'd be nice to have an "about" button in there somewhere where the names of the people don't flash by so quickly...

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #103 on: 07 Jun 2004, 19:54 »
wow :::round of applause::: you remake is dope its dead on from what i seem

you should do lsl 3 i know sommeone else was working i dono if thay still are or not ......but since your dead on you should do one to

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« Reply #104 on: 07 Jun 2004, 22:12 »
As far as I know, Timosity's still working on it. I wouldn't dream of stealing his great work - and the bit he sent me (quite) a while ago IS great, much better than mine. Really! Keep your eyes open for his remake!
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #105 on: 08 Jun 2004, 12:24 »
thats cool be nice to hear an update tho  ::)

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #106 on: 15 Jun 2004, 20:55 »
um hey...today i downloaded the game from the link mentioned at the beginning. The game is awesome, but in this version, i am unable to retrieve sunscreen from the drug store...i've 'looked' everywhere but the message that keeps appearing is that nothing present in the shop would interest larry...so, can anyone help me?

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #107 on: 15 Jun 2004, 21:00 »
This belongs in the Hints and Tips forum.

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« Reply #108 on: 18 Jun 2004, 23:55 »
I finally finished...the game is SO kewl! Any other point and click versions of leisure suit larry?

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #109 on: 19 Jun 2004, 09:54 »
Other than Sierra's LSL1VGA and Timosity's coming LSL3?  ;)
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« Reply #110 on: 19 Jun 2004, 11:50 »
Not to mention LSL5, 6 and 7  :P

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #111 on: 02 Jul 2004, 06:58 »
Never thought I'd reply to this thread again, really... ah well.

People have been reporting a bug for a while now, concerning entering the docks. I've never spotted the bug on my machine, and the error message people kept suplying didn't make sense. But now a player decided to send me a savegame, and I think I've nailed it, although why the error message pointed to line 219 in the script (or something) when the mistake was in the whereanouts of line 430 I'll never know.

Oh, I've also extended the time you can be on the boat before Mama gets you... and I do believe I've FINALLY and COMPLETELY fixed the cliff bug.

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #112 on: 02 Jul 2004, 07:26 »
Is the file on AGS's site updated as well? Because I cant download it via your link here.

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #113 on: 02 Jul 2004, 21:01 »
I think so... but don't use the freewebs link. Use the mirror/AGA link.
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #114 on: 13 Jul 2004, 17:07 »
Not meaning to bring an old thread up...but...is there an update for the part where Larry keeps falling off the cliff at the third (or was it fourth) edge? The game just hangs there with Larry always falling, pulling himself up, and repeating...

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #115 on: 14 Jul 2004, 06:59 »
Er, yeah, the version I uploaded 2 posts ago... :P
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #116 on: 14 Jul 2004, 17:05 »
I downloaded it from the AGA / Mirror link that was provided in your very first post and that was the one that had this bug...or is there some post that I might have missed out...? *goes looking around*

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #117 on: 14 Jul 2004, 19:58 »
Blast... I thought I had it licked... you downloaded it AFTER 02 Jul 2004, 06:58, right? Oh well. Back to the drawing board.
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #118 on: 15 Jul 2004, 14:48 »
Yeah...definitely...I think I downloaded it just 3 days ago...

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #119 on: 21 Jul 2004, 20:07 »
Hi, I am at the forums again!  ;)

I downloaded your version of LSL 2 some days ago and now I finished it (I could never finish the parser version, so you helped me a lot!)

I know I should not say that about a classic adventuregame, but I enjoyed it more than Al Lowes Parserversion.

And the next question: Can you please make a point & click - version of Larry III?
(this is the only one I did not finish yet!  ::) )

By the way the old LSL-games are great...
but my favorite will ever be LSL 6. I really love this part. And the graphics of this game are absolutly unique in the adventuregenre.  :-*

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #120 on: 21 Jul 2004, 21:36 »
Timosity is working on a P&C version of Larry 3, if you search the Games in Production forum you'll find the thread.

By the way, redruM, I downloaded your game a few days ago (thanks to my alzheimer's, I kept forgetting to do so for months), and I have to say, excellent job, well done. ^_^
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #121 on: 28 Jul 2004, 23:25 »
heeeey sorry of my poor english (i'm from argentina)
try to understand this:
when someone can do a vga version of Leisure suit larry 2&3???
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #122 on: 12 Aug 2004, 14:24 »
I must say this game is pretty cool, I never played the original Larry 2 because I hate parser, but thanks for the good game. Make another!  8)

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #123 on: 02 Sep 2004, 04:12 »
EXCELLENT GAME!!!!! This game rocks! I will never delete this baby off my computer!

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #124 on: 12 Sep 2004, 14:46 »
I know it's possibly silly to ressurrect the topic but I felt I need to give you the congratulations you deserve. I had had the P&C version of Larry 2 on my pc for a while but never got around to playing it. I had enjoyed the original version, but constantly getting stuck in "guess the verb" situations turned me off to it a bit (I still love text parser games, I just find P&Cs a lot more enjoyable).

Yesterday I decided to finally sit down and try out your title to see what you did with it, and I must say it's wonderful (I still get a laugh everytime I walk anywhere near the barbershops). Keep up the good work my friend, you have made me one satisfied fan. :)
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #125 on: 12 Sep 2004, 15:54 »
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Nothing wrong with doing that if you like the game. And thank you very much - thank ALL of you very much. Sure, most of this thread's content is about the infamous "beta" versions, but it still gets brought up from the dead every once in a while. Thank you all very much.
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« Reply #126 on: 08 Jan 2005, 08:20 »
Hi all,

I want to play Larry 2 Point and Click but have no idea where to download it from!

This link http://www.agagames.com/temp/InstallLSL2pc.exe mentioned in the first post of this thread doesn't seem to work any more (File Not Found).

The links to the game in http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/ lead to RAR files. To decompress these, I even downloaded WinRAR but still the EXE in these files turned out to be corrupt. (After this I even tried concatenating the two EXEs but no use.)  :-[

As you can see, I've tried hard to get this game. It's been an adventure in itself! Could someone please post a working link for the game?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #127 on: 08 Jan 2005, 09:01 »
I don't know what you mean... I've downloaded BOTH RAR files in the GAMES section and extracted them and got the game running - with no problem. Maybe you need a more recent version of WinRAR?

But thanks for reminding me to update the links on the first post.
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« Reply #128 on: 08 Jan 2005, 09:27 »
I don't know what you mean... I've downloaded BOTH RAR files in the GAMES section and extracted them and got the game running - with no problem. Maybe you need a more recent version of WinRAR?
I do have the latest version of WinRAR. I downloaded it specifically for this game.

The problem is that both the RAR files, ie, InstallLSL2pc.part1.rar and InstallLSL2pc.part2.rar, contain in themselves a file with the same name, ie, InstallLSL2pc.exe. I am guessing that the contents of both the RAR files should be concatenated into one EXE. But how do I go about doing this with WinRAR? When I extract them one by one, it simply asks me if I want to replace the file by that name, not append to it. So I tried extracting both using different names and then I concatenated them using the DOS command of copy file1.exe+file2.exe InstallLSL2pc.exe. Even this resulted in a corrupt EXE.  :'(

Can't you please just upload the EXE as one whole (even if it is compressed using ZIP or RAR) instead of splitting it? Rejoining them seems to be a hassle (unless you tell me how it's possible in WinRAR).

I hope this isn't going off topic. Hmm... I guess not.

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #129 on: 08 Jan 2005, 09:44 »
I can't, and I've tried. My PC simply times out before the transfer is made.

And as for HOW to do it... just make sure both RAR files are in the same DIR and extract part 1 wherever you like. WinRAR will extract part 2 automatically.
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #130 on: 08 Jan 2005, 09:50 »
I can't, and I've tried. My PC simply times out before the transfer is made.

And as for HOW to do it... just make sure both RAR files are in the same DIR and extract part 1 wherever you like. WinRAR will extract part 2 automatically.

Yeah, I just read that in the Help files of WinRAR. I guess I should have done that before posting my message! Sorry!  :D

I guess the RAR files I've downloaded are corrupt themselves (some CRC error). I guess they get corrupt while downloading (using GoZilla!) and aren't corrupt at the source itself ('cos others haven't faced this problem). I've already tried downloading them twice using GoZilla! I'll try downloading them directly using the browser now.

Sorry for the trouble! I do hope I get to play your game.  :)

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #131 on: 08 Jan 2005, 11:07 »
Yeah, although you can use any download manager with the MicroTech links, you can't with the AGS GAMES system. Bit of a drawback, but hey...
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« Reply #132 on: 08 Jan 2005, 11:24 »
I can't, and I've tried. My PC simply times out before the transfer is made.

And as for HOW to do it... just make sure both RAR files are in the same DIR and extract part 1 wherever you like. WinRAR will extract part 2 automatically.

I just downloaded both files both arhieve and boths exe files in those are exactly same bytes after extractions.

Therefore, what I did for test:
Extracted exe file from part1 of archieve
I run install file from file, run program without problems. uninstall it.

extrated exe file 2nd part and run exe file, run program still without problems.

It would seems we only one of those archieve file and not boths.

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #133 on: 08 Jan 2005, 11:28 »
Ok, now try it WITHOUT both RAR files being in the same directory when you extract. :P
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #134 on: 08 Jan 2005, 11:46 »
Ok What I did,

Remove the game.

Place both archieve in diffrent directory but keep exe file from 2nd archieve intact, install program from different directory not where both archieve are. The program run still without problems.

I was able rebuilt those from directory winar 3.14 by creating an install file in which it splitted files into 3 part, exe file is: 1.39MB, 2nd one: 1.38MB and last one: 1.13MB and I used winzip to put everything one file at: 3.90MB.

If you want that winzip file and if your server allows that, I'll be more than please do sent it to you by email so can extract winzip archieve to those files on your server. By doing do so it will resolved lot of conflics. However, I did not include the unsintall exe file from your original archieve from your website. Please do PM me by providing your email address.

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #135 on: 08 Jan 2005, 14:26 »
Look, I have no idea what you're talking about. As far as I know and have experimented, you CAN'T even extract anything in the files unless you have both of them. And since I used WINRar to compress the exe file into 2 shorter files (plus my incomphrehension of what you mean) I can only assume you have made a mistake somewhere.

1 - The install file is almost 6 MBs, too big for me to upload.
2 - I divided it in 2.
3 - I have uploaded both.

How can either of the files possibly, conceivably have everything? Especially since the game itself is almost 20MBs? Also, I do not believe there are any conflicts. So far, the only conflict has been a user that hadn't fully understood how Winrar works. A small mistake that could happen to anyone, but it is by no means my mistake.
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #136 on: 08 Jan 2005, 14:30 »
Yeah, although you can use any download manager with the MicroTech links, you can't with the AGS GAMES system. Bit of a drawback, but hey...

I use Getright. Right-clicking the links and selecting 'Download with GetRight' works fine.
The links don't lead directly to the .rar-files, but GetRight is able to process the games.php-file.

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« Reply #137 on: 08 Jan 2005, 14:39 »
Really? Thanks for the tip! :D
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #138 on: 08 Jan 2005, 19:26 »
That is a fantastic remake, just played a few first scenes , but whoa did that brink back some memories...

I wasnt able to pee behind the trashcan though :(

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #139 on: 08 Jan 2005, 20:45 »
Oh, but you will. :) Just move closer to it. You may want to use the arrow keys.

And you may also want to have your sound on. ;)
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« Reply #140 on: 08 Jan 2005, 20:51 »
Look, I have no idea what you're talking about. As far as I know and have experimented, you CAN'T even extract anything in the files unless you have both of them. And since I used WINRar to compress the exe file into 2 shorter files (plus my incomphrehension of what you mean) I can only assume you have made a mistake somewhere.

1 - The install file is almost 6 MBs, too big for me to upload.
2 - I divided it in 2.
3 - I have uploaded both.

How can either of the files possibly, conceivably have everything? Especially since the game itself is almost 20MBs? Also, I do not believe there are any conflicts. So far, the only conflict has been a user that hadn't fully understood how Winrar works. A small mistake that could happen to anyone, but it is by no means my mistake.

Hi,

Perhaps, I don't clearly understand how winrar work but I do know that winrar has option
in creating an SFX archive (Exe file) and spliting into smaller files.

Since you said the The install file is almost 6 MBs and you divided that into 2 file,
I suggest to back your original install file to compress it using winrar.

When creating an (SFS) or EXE archive, usually winrar has ways to spliting
that into smaller files according to your specifications.

In other words,
Winrar creates first file as EXE and creates remain files at part1...and so on.

Therefore by spliting into 2 file, files below should be as follows:
"lar.part1.exe"
"lar.part2.rar"

I hope that provide extra helps.


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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #141 on: 08 Jan 2005, 20:55 »
Ah, I know what you mean... and it sounds like a WONDERFUL idea. That way users won't need WinRar. It's a bit redundant since most people do, but it IS much more user friendly. Although it is not aesthetic (sp?) to have an install.exe file inside an exe archive...

...I'll give it some thought. Thank you.
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Re: Leisure Suit Larry 2 Point and Click
« Reply #142 on: 08 Jan 2005, 21:05 »
That Great!,

It quite possible that winar split your archive in more than 2 files just to warn you though!

However, I'm glad to have provide some helps.

Good luck