Finally the English version of THE DEVIL'S SHROUD

[Primus]

Thanks a lot!Ã,  I'll need it!Ã, 

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how do I get the abbot's book?

[Ketmaier]

You have to put the abbot to sleep...

[Primus]

Ketmaier:

Sorry if I'm stupid or idiot, but I can't get

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a container! I can't get medicines! Everytime I reload and although everything I try to do, I just wander around without being able to go on... I can't get any medicines, towels, bandages, lighter, food, etc. A suggestion: why not hints about you don't need a certain item right now, but that later you maybe will? I am stuck at 10 o'clock yet... *sigh*

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[Ketmaier]

The only thing you have to do if you want to finish the first part is to think as you were Leonard. It means that when you try to get an object he can't say I don't need it now, because he doesn't know if that object will be useful or not in the future. In the same way when Leonard finds out new clues, a previously unnecessary object can turn into something useful and so he will get it. Now, if you consider the matter from his point of view you should be able to understand why he gets an object and how he can use it.

[Yvonne]

Well, but Ketmaier KNOWS that it's "too dark to enter". and he knows that there is a torch in his bedroom.
And yet, like a complete imbecile he goes on saiyng that he does not need the torch (neither the lighter, nor the branch - with a towel/bandage + oil + lighter he could make and light up a torch).

[Ketmaier]

Yes you're right and I have to apologize because Leonard should'nt say It's too dark to enter: that's a BUG!!! related to the walkable area. I'm sorry...just don't consider it.

[Nostradamus]

Well well... the graphics are awesome and story is interesting... but it's not very user friendly.. I try to grab something and he says "I can't reach it from here" that's the most annoying sentence in adventure games ever. So I'm in th elinving room trying to take the camera but he can't reach it so I try walking towards it... no luck... he doesn't want to pass the couches no matter where I go and where I walk down the screen the character freezes at the bottom and doesn't move anymore..

[Primus]

Dear Kitmaier:

Hi! And congratulations for fine game that has got stuck everyone I know - yeah, I've tried a few friends, but they're as myself (using the expression I read before in a thread) - stuck glued. You can confirm that here:
http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?topic=14679.0

You're right, theÃ,  player must think as Ketmaier. The player must "dress" his character. Ok. But what about the off / narrator / etc., telling things Ketmaier doesn't / didn't / shall not / shouldn't know, but a third part - eg a player - should...
Pls! Without that kind of tips, your game is too hard... (that's at least my opinion).

Oh, a hint: if you want to place hidden hints / tips / etc.
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hidden text
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without the *

[tvcooper2001]

Bravo Primus!  I agree!  After a while you get so sick of being stuck in a game that you just want to delete it and be done.  Maybe time to move onto something else where you can get decent tips!

[Primus]

Hi, Tvcooper2001:
I've felt that before, but fortunately I didn't delete too many games due to that: sooner or later, I could go on. I must confess I have a few games half done... half notÃ, 

This one in special, I like it, its "ambiance", the so much effort and work showed by Ketmaier to made a so quality game and all  extra ones giving us an English version, and so on. I'd feel like as a "trahitor" just giving up... And old andventure gamers as me like challenges. But in this case I must confess I give up: please, Ketmaier, our ten o'clock watches need to go on, they need a DIRECT tip, prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrease....

[lakerz]

Ah, I wish I had known to press ESC for saving instead of F9.    At least it shouldn't take me too long to get back to where I was stuck.  Reading through this thread has given me some ideas.  Hopefully I'll get farther when I try again! 

[porchbeast]

ketmaier,
is there an internal clock in this game? i've matched up the pics and re-examined the body and finally got the message,
"i guess it's time to report my findings to the abbot"
i keep wandering around the abbey but i can't find him, and his door is always locked. someone told me that if i go up to where the mad monk is and come back down, the abbot will appear, but he doesn't
hint greatfully appreciated

[Primus]

Hi, Porchbeast!

No, don't go to where the mad monkey is, but go out from the abbey by that walk where you can also visit the old ruins, then go back, or then go to the fountain: you'll see the abbot drinking water. Wait till he gets out that screen and so comes back to his room: at that point you can visit him. If you don't see him, try again by going to the upper screen, then going back.

How did you do that, pls?! What did you do? Please...

[tvcooper2001]

I thought that maybe we should all compare notes to hopefully solve this game.  I have place below all of what I have found so far.  Can anybody add to the list?

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Inventory:

-camera
-cell phone
-tv remote
-keys
-notebook
-wallet
-visiting cards
-travel brochure
-book

Kitchen:

-Refrigerator can be opened (can't take anything)
-Table is prepared for 2 (can't do anything)

Living Room:

-sofa (can sit)
-pictures (can't take)
-Keys by pictures (take)
-Grandfather Clock (can't make it work)

Bedroom:

-bed (don't want to sleep)
-electric tourch (can't take yet)
-closet (can't open)

Bathroom:

-Gauzes (can't take)
-towels (can't take)
-medicines (can't take) *is it possible that later on you   will be able to get sleeping pills to put Abbot asleep?

TV Room:

-tv remote (take)
-couch (can sit)
-cd's/dvd's (can't take)
-tv (can turn on with remote)
-book case (looking for specific book-can take satan book)

Computer room:

-desk drawer (can open and get travel brochure)
-telephone (who an I going to call)
-notebook computer (can look at blood picture to match to the book you have....3 9's & 3 6's)  (can do ogle search for "tourviaggi" and get travel agency web page.  You get the name from the brochure.  Can't do anything at web site though.

At the Abbey:

Fountain Room:
-fountain
-christening font
-chalice (can't take)
-water tap (says I have to use a container-where to find a container to fille with water and put sleeping pills in to give to Abbot.....just speculation???)

Dead Monk's Room:

-Habit (nothing in pockets)
-bed (nothing under sheet-hasn't been slept in)
-window (can't open)
-blood spot on wall (take picture)
-body (must have been dragged here-where was he killed?)
-weapon
-blood (not enough to have been killed there)

Hall:

-door to courtyard
-Abbots room (if locked go to courtyard and wait til the Abbot returns to his room)

Abbot's Room:

-Chalice (can we later switch these so he drinks the sleeping pills----just speculation?)
-paintings
-keyhole under painting

Mad Monk Room:

-window (can do nothing
-chair (can do nothing)
-cross (can do nothing)
-monk running in circles (can do nothing)

Crypt Room:

-unlit tourch (can doo nothing)
-missing tourch (can do nothing)
-spilled oil (can do nothing)
-light bulb reflection (can do nothing)
-three cylindrical furrows (must have something to do with opening the crypt door if there is one)
-wood alter (recent-can do nothing)
-picture (can do nothing)
-dark area (can't walk in)

Outside back:

-ruins (can do nothing)
-crack through which you can see valley

Outside Front:

-Door knockers (used at first visit)
-Door (has carved devil in snake form)

-----that all I got!

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[Nelinas]

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Kitchen - Lighter (can't take)
Living room - Credit card on sofa under pillow (use hand on sofa)
In front of the abbey where car stops - Branch (can't take)

The monk Eldo is so upset and he won't talk because he has not taken his tranquilizers today. After you have this information you'll be able to pick up tranquilizers from bathroom, chalice + water from fountain, and put medicine in chalice. But Eldo (who has important information) says "Eldo not thirsty".

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[tvcooper2001]

Nelinas,  Thank you.....looks like I missed a couple of things as I suspected.

Is Eldo the monk that is pacing around.  How did you get info on the tranquilizers?

I clicked on the couch pillow like you said and he did say here is my credit card.  But, the card does not show un in my inventory???  Does it in yours?

Perhaps you are supposed to switch chalaces in Abbot's office and that is what makes he sleep?

[tvcooper2001]

Never mind about the credit card.  I just didn't pick it up.  Got it now though.

[porchbeast]

primus,
thanks i FINALLY found the fountain. got the chalice and filled it with water, then couldn't leave the abbey. luckily, i hadn't saved. restarted, went back home, looked at the medicine, got the tranquilizers, filled the chalice with water, added the tranqulizers, switched the bottles and waited for the monk to return for a drink, went back to talk to father elmo but he's still upset.
will try to repeat until i get the right doseage

[Primus]

Hi, everybody!

It seems all of you are much more advanced in the game than myselfÃ, 

Eg I hadn't got the

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credit card yet... When I looked at the cushion it didn't "tell" anything, so I lost that hint.
Oh, And that branch will be useful in the game somehow.

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Here's what I had already done:

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- Watch the starting scenes;
- get the letter;
- from table on your left, get car keys;
- go up, then left;
- you don't need anything from here now;
- go upright;
- get digital camera;
- get remote control;
- get out that room;
- go down, to enter bedroom;
- turn light on;
- get cell phone;
- get wallet;
- try to get torch - you can't - yet;
- open door to bedroom, then turn light on - you won't be able to get anything now;
- get out from your bedroom;
- try to interact with clock - you can't;
- go left, then up;
- get out to street;
- use keys with car;
- on map, click St Michele Abbey;
- go left a screen, then up another;
- knock door using knocker;
- watch scene;
- give letter to friar;
- enter door right of friar;
- watch scene;
- get out;
- talk to friar;
- enter door;
- try to interact with habit and bed;
- go left;
- look at image (made with blood) on wall;
- use camera on image for a pic;
- try to interact with dead friar and with razor - you can't;
- get out;
- try to talk to friar;
- go back home;
- go to study;
- get book from bookselves;
- look at book;
- interact with computer;
- choose graphics;
- adquire image (use camera);
- use magnify with a downright plot;
- look at book again;
- adquire book image;
- match both images;
- turn computer off;
- try to get torch - again, not yet...;

- Go back to Abbey.
- enter Father Anselmo's room;
- look at blood on floor near his corpse: now you may go and talk to the abbot;
- get out and talk to mad monk: he won't talk to you;
- go down and right to atrio; talk to monk to discover he needs a medicine to calm him down;
- go home, get medicine, go back again;
- go to fountain, get chalice, fill it with water, pur medicine into it;
- give it to mad monk - not yet;
- close the window and give him water with drug;
- talk to him till he gives you a blank piece of paper;
- go back to fountain and place chalice on fountain;
- go to sanctuary and use paper with light torch till you read something;
- go to abbot's room and talk to him: now you need to put this one to sleep to get the book;
- SAVE here: had to reload twice due to a bug;
- go to the fountain;
- get the chalice again;
- fill it with water and place three dosis of drugs in it;
- put the chalice in the fountain;
- get out;
- wait till the abbot comes, drinks water and goes back to his room again;
- go to abbot's room;
- search abbot to get key;
- try to move painting - you can't - yet;
- use key in hole;
- move painting;
- get book, and read it;
- use camera to get picture;
- replace book;
- close painting;
- put key in abbot again;
- get out;
- try to leave - you can't - yet;
- talk to friar Elmo;
- watch scene;
- go home;
- acquire and print image;
- get lighter;
- get electric torch;
- go to abbey;
- go to sanctuary;
- use pic with sanctuary (floor and torches, eg) to learn you'll need a third torch;
- try to move torches - you can't;
- get out and go to car;
- get branch near car;
- go home and get bandages;
- go back to Abbey, and to sanctuary;
- use branch with bandages with oil on floor;
- use homemade torch where missing torch was;
- light all torches with lighter;
- compare pic with chandelier, then try to interact with it - ti's too high;
- go get the chair (it's where Elmo was);
- watch scene;
- interact with chair: you can't get the chandelier yet...
- interact with chair again to go down;
- get your torch;
- go up chair;
- use torch with chandelier: success at least!;
- get down again;
- use torch with place;
- light torch again qith lighter;
- watch scene;
- don't you SAVE here? I did...
- use electric torch;
- enter;
- explore the crypt with the electric torch;
- use lighter on torch on the left;
- move torch;
- go down, to the opening;
- look;
- go up;
- look at torch-like on the right;
- move torch;
- go to where chair was;
- get the cruccifix;
- go back to the crypt;
- go thru opening on the right;
- look at wall;
- go left;
- use cruccifix with carving on the wall;
- look at book on altar;
- look at button (in the basis of the altar, in the middle);
- press button;
- look at figure to get cloth and key;
- use key with lock (on the left wall);
- look at travel brochure, and note its number down;
- look at credit card, and note its number down;
- try to phone to the agancy: it's late, you can't;
- go home;
- turn tv on;
- go to computer, and use ogle: enter the name of the travel agency, for the booking;
- then enter destination, surname, and credit card no.;
- get out;
- use car keys;
- click on airport;

The End of Part I



- And that's where I am now: finished part 1

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About the medicines, I deduced they would be needed afterwards, when I read Ketmaier wrote it was needed to put the Abbot to sleep...

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the medicines are in the bathroom.

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Thanks to all of you for your too valuable hints & tips!

Nelinas, you've saved my day!