FLASHBAX ....FINISHED..

Started by foz, Mon 01/09/2003 20:00:41

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nihilist

Actually it is in a way... (from REX NEBULAR) After the Slug man massacres the female guards on their ship, you actually use a severed hand to open a compartment door!!!


Minimi

I think that, it's wise to listen to critics, because you learn from them, although it's maybee not the things you want to hear. When I will finish a game, I only want to here things like " OOO great work!" and such... but I must remind myself that by getting critics about things, I can improve myself.

My personal rating for Flashbax, would be something like 75%, because I really loved the game, and also like others, got shocked by the second part, but I still love all the nice animations and graphics, wich counts for me pretty high, though that's just my opinion!

I hope you are happy now FOZ! ;D

foz

Right..........here we go.

POINT 1.    Your right vel is intitled to his opinoin,so am i.........
he states that my game is`nt as good as the likes of things like bucanneer,apprentice...know ive played most the games and most aint worth loading they look crap and open a draw to find a manuscript missing....and after talking to two characters and giving a bottle of brandy to find manuscript is hardly full of challenging puzzle know ....that got 92% i think.....and apprentice had bugs and parts that did`nt make sense....this is one of the better games made using ags....but this had odd puzzles like putting the milk in a saddle to make cheese.....i found that a bit odd....this game got a high score .
know had i released my game as a 2-3 room game with out a couple of the bit like the dirty toilet roll and taking a peee.......

you all would of said great game....may be you would`nt
....it turned out to have 14 rooms a load of cutscenes that is unheard of in most ags game....and the fact that the games tries a few things that no one else would dare to....you hate it.

i have decieded to leave the game as it is i `ll bug fix but the game sits as i made it.
if you don`t like it or play it it don`t matter. if you do like it then great.

POINT 2. now my banter with vel is`nt that i can`t take hes negative review,its the fact that i think hes biggest problem with the game is it steps over the line....which is true ,but he then slates the music and the puzzles....which are probaly better than most ags games out there.
and the fact that he doesnt seem to have made any kind of attempt at making any thing that i can see.........the majoirity of AGS games have bad animation,bad backgrounds,and usless puzzles, like pick up brandy glass and hand to woman....in my opinion that not a good game.
THE only game that is worth playing will be FOY....and i agree that i can`t make games as good as that will be(if it turns out as planned).
But i have made a game that changes your mould...of what a game should be.......and with anything that tries to be different ,can sometimes not appeal to all....

POINT 3.
to Gonzo

Now my qoute...
"HOW MUCH HAVE YOU EARNED WITH YOUR MUSIC...not much i guess"
i have made a living out of making music...its not a full time job but

18 released singles and 3 albums over the years has allowed a comfortable lifestyle....
The first time i tinker with a bit of amatuer game making...(midi tunes)..
Some guy called VEL states its not anygood when its just a background tune ....i did`nt get a lot of time with the music..and thought the stuff i`d done was better than some of the other games out there.....and the fact i used a tune composed by barber which can`t be considered bad and the theme from resovoir dogs which is most certainly not bad....i just think his mind was set because of the.... as he puts it vulgar parts of the game.....and has tarnished any other parts of the game.

POINT 4..
i don`t mind if you don`t like the game or don`t want to play it.....
i started this project as i have always liked adventure game since the first lucas arts game like manic mansion and zak mckrakken...when that came out first time around.

This might change my outlook regarding the PREQEUL...which i will still make even if the only person to play it is nihilist.




foz

MINIMI  

Its not about me getting good or bad reviews or praise for it being good ....i think i get my point acroos in my last post..
there are to many people talking about how their games gonna be great.
posting average pictures and story that ramble on....when what they should be doing is actaully making the game.

I question others criticism when i can`t see any evidience that they have even tried to make anything of any quality..
with regard my game i would like to stop this banter as i need to get on with my prequel and another idea ive had....a mafia game called "THE FAMILY"....will the violence be okay in that sort of game???......they do kill each other and take drugs you know.....
any way i will leave it there.....i think you should only criticize if your an authority on the subject......

Vel

To foz: The main puzzle problems were the one with the hand and the other with the old man. Suggested solutions:
1. He should stick the nude pics on the red button and tell the oldman to get downstaris. The cutscene should be he touching the pic, and thus the button.
2. Put the sleeping guy on a rolling chair. And i dont think that the plot is quite at the level of P:DA, KQ2VGA or even Apprentice. It just didnt make me actually care for the character.

foz

VeL we`ve spoke alot about this ....
can we put it to sleep now..
I`m not sure if the prequel will be as VULGAR...it may, it may not...
The button puzzle is basically this guy is addicted to porn (based on someone i know)...you ask him to push the button....he says "what will i get for doing it..."you evently find out the ARTISTIC MAG he wants is a porno....so when you give the mag to him he will go and push the button as agreed......this is so you can get the reactor...as an after thouht i flashed across to him.....pushing the button ....but he is so addicted to porn he can`t wait to look and pleases himself......thats what its all about....he slips off the button as he is more ingrossed in what hes doing.....

FRANKLY in most ags games i don`t really care about the character.....
apprentice included ,
as i had said i think to date this is one of the best ags games around but it has its own down points as do alll games.....you don`t see it thou..
Bucaneer.....is a couple of rooms very simple puzzles....granted it was made in 2 weeks but it shows ...if the guy making it spent more time on making the game in all aspects....i`m sure it would be good.....
both these games don`t in my opinion have great music either but i`m not looking to down them ......i just think you and some others have built these games up.....rightly so as the competition is rubbish.....

can we now end this toing and throwing.....
We`ll have to agree to disagree...

Vel

#46
And about the score of buccaneer: 92 % MAGS score is different that the overall score.
EDIT: and, as for the music, I didnt say it was bad, I just said it is not memorable. And by memorable I mean me humming the tune after I stop playing the game. For example, memorable are the tunes of KQ2VGA, star wars, indys...

Hobbes

Errr...

I would very much like it if you two kept this discussion relating to Flashbax only, please?

Buccaneer-bashing is, of course, allowed...

...but get your own thread for that. ;)

foz

VEL ........

as my last post said .....lets put this debate to bed....

I`ll make the PREQUEL........then you can review it if you like .....

then maybe we can start a new debate......

LATERS for now....
PS.....i would still be interested in seeing the game your working on.....
maybe i will be less critical.....who knows.

Vel

First, as the forum rules say n0 l33t sp34k0rz.
Second, I already told you that there is a thread in the Games in production forum (though I dont know where)

foz

Theres no thread.
I meant the GAME you said is in prodution now.

Matt Brown

* Some Call Me Panda download game to see what all this fuss is about
word up

jason

#52
I thoroughly enjoyed Flashbax, foz. In fact, I felt the vulgarity was a nice change of pace and I can't wait to play the prequel.

Everything (art, animation, music, sound effects, dialog) was top-notch and I can tell that you spent a long time developing the game. I was also very happy with the helpful descriptions and hints. The story was also very good, if not too grim at the end, and I'm glad you left something open for a prequel.

However, there were a few gripes I had with the game:
1) As mentioned before, the movement was a little too slow.
2) Although it may detract from the difficulty, I think it's better to remove inventory items once they're no longer needed.

Also, there were a few bugs I encountered:
1) Once you get the water gun, you can interact with the crane controls again to reset the crate carrying the water guns. Consequentially, a second water gun can be picked up.
2) If you exit and re-enter the room after killing the sleeping guard, he will be alive and snoring (although, this could have been intentional).

Again, great game!

john.s

Its the best game on the forums.

Excellent stuff.

I don`t know what the fuss is alll about

Vel

Well, it may be good, but it certainly aint the best. Look for KQ2VGA

Nostradamus

I'm only in the first room but this seems like a very interesting game.

I need help:
Spoiler
I used the acid cup on the robot, now what?  I got the toilet paper and the steel handle of it but I can't seem to do anything else and thus am still stuck in the cell
[close]



lspace

I'm out of the cell but don't know how to get past the second set of lasers.

demars

Hey Foz!

I've just completed Flashbax, and i must say, that i really enjoyed your game!

You did a great work! I did'nt think this was too vulgar. Not more than anybody gets to see at the 6'o'clock news everyday

And i am looking really forward to the prequel!

AGA

I really loved this game. Great setting, great characters, great humour. I didn't think it was at all too vulgar. The only real compaint I have is that the spelling was really iffy at times...

foz

yes i agree....aga.......i`m gonoing to sort that out and upload the revised verson.
I`ll make sure the preqeul will be better regarding this point..

cheers any way.
foz


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