Author Topic: 3D Adventure Game Engine? Is there? (Read 1157 times) Tweet Share

TheMagician · « **on:** 07 Apr 2005, 12:12 »

Hi everybody.

I've been replaying "Gabriel Knight 3" recently. I wondered if there is any 3D adventure game engine available to do such kind of games and if any of you already tried and used one?
I really like the atmosphere of GK 3 even if the graphics are outdated.

Thanks in advance!
Stefan

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · « **Reply #1 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 12:18 »

http://www.bigbluecup.com/aclinks.htm

See the penultimate link.

But I think development is pretty erratic and slow, so I wouldn't count on it. Other than that one, I'm not aware of any other such engine myself...

Lemonhead · « **Reply #2 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 12:24 »

The Wintermute engine has support for 3D actors, and the demo game looks very promising: http://www.dead-code.org/index2.php/en.

scotch · « **Reply #3 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 12:33 »

Yeah, GK3 was fully 3d though, not just characters. There is no easy engine to do this in, currently.

TheMagician · « **Reply #4 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 12:45 »

@ RUI:
Yes, I had a look at that engine. The last news on the site was entered end of 2004. It really looks like a pre-alpha version

@ Lemonhead:
I also looked at your link and checked out the demo game. I'm really impressed. If they keep developing this feature I'm sure it will come pretty close to Grim Fandango style games!

@ scotch:
You say there is no "easy" engine to do it in ... do you know any "hard" engines for that purpose?

Well, perhaps I just have to create an adventure mod for the "Far Cry Engine" and then I'll create a jungle adventure that blows you away ... or perhaps not ...

Miez · « **Reply #5 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 12:56 »

I think games like this could be made in DarkBasic (http://darkbasic.thegamecreators.com/) or BlitzBasic (http://www.blitzbasic.com/). These engines are very generic, and all sorts of games can be made in them (2D, 3D). Something like GK3 would very well be possible.

TheMagician · « **Reply #6 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 13:37 »

@ miez:
Thanks for the info! I just looked at the website of DarkBasic and it looks indeed promising. Have you ever used them or how do you know that something like GK3 would be possible to do with them?

Miez · « **Reply #7 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 13:40 »

I've dabbled around with DarkBasic a little, so from that experience and from looking at the techdemo's they have on offer I'm pretty sure something GK3-like is possible. If you want to make a game like that, however, be ready for an insane amount of work...

Al_Ninio · « **Reply #8 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 14:40 »

I tend to prefer BlitzBasic.
The IDE is nicer, it's been around for a long time (the first version of Worms for the Amiga was made in BlitzBasic), and thus there are more tutorials and resources around (well. I *found* more for BlitzBasic, but maybe it's not so

).

Granted, the 3D functions are rather new, and I have to admit to not having tried them yet... But BB's still my favourite.

Just my two cents.

Bernie · « **Reply #9 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 15:29 »

I have to agree - Blitzbasic 3D is great. It would work nicely for a 3D adventure game. You gotta be prepared to code your own pathfinding routines and dialog/inventory systems, though.

Miez · « **Reply #10 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 15:33 »

And be ready to make ~~bucketloads~~ ~~truckloads~~ cargofreighterloads of 3d objects, environments and animations.

TheMagician · « **Reply #11 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 15:56 »

I just had a look at the demo version of DarkBasic.
I think I noticed one big disadvantage of the program. Your complete code (which would be pretty big for a GK 3 style game

) has to go into ONE single script. There are no seperate supscripts like in AGS.
That makes things really complicated.

I'll now try the BlitzBasic 3D demo version.
However, coding your own pathfinding routine doesn't sound like fun to me! Do you think there are any tutorials on that topic?

Al_Ninio · « **Reply #12 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 16:02 »

http://www.blitzcoder.com/

Try looking through the tutorials and the code database, you're bound to find SOMETHING.

Everything has to be in one giant script in BlitzBasic as well, as far as I know, but the IDE makes moving through functions oh-so-much easier.

Miez · « **Reply #13 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 16:02 »

Well, your core program has to be one file - but you can definately work with external files: graphics, sound, 3d objects, animations, text files, etc. And load/unload them whenever you need to.
BlitzBasic and DarkBasic can not be compared to AGS: they are far more generic, and don't work with discreet "room" files like AGS (for instance).

TheMagician · « **Reply #14 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 16:10 »

Yes, I understand that an engine like BlitzBasic won't work with "room" files.

@ Al_Ninio:
Sounds like you already used the engine? Did you create something with it?

Al_Ninio · « **Reply #15 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 16:25 »

I was in the midst of creating a Worms clone.
However, my hard drive crashed and I haven't restarted the project since, mostly due to school and just a general lack of motivation.

TheMagician · « **Reply #16 on:** 07 Apr 2005, 16:48 »

That sounds cool. And you liked working with that engine?

Tuntis (from other pc) · « **Reply #17 on:** 08 Apr 2005, 14:14 »

Quote from: TheMagician on 07 Apr 2005, 12:45

@ RUI:
Yes, I had a look at that engine. The last news on the site was entered end of 2004. It really looks like a pre-alpha version

Wintermute? Well, it's developers are alive. I chatted with them when I was testing WMute.

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · « **Reply #18 on:** 08 Apr 2005, 14:17 »

No, the penultimate link at the page I linked to.

TheMagician · « **Reply #19 on:** 10 Apr 2005, 09:37 »

Well, after a few days of testing the trial version I came to the conclusion that I really like Blitz3D. It has an easy scripting language and produces nice and fast 3D results. It also has a vivid community which is, in my opinion, really important.

However, no engine will make me leave AGS !!

Thanks again for your information about the engines.
Stefan

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