AGS Awards 2010! [RESULTS!]

bicilotti · Sat 08/01/2011 17:55:06

Voting is over!!! Check the results!.

AGS Awards 2010

What are the AGS Awards?
The AGS awards are an annual event where the best AGS games of the year are selected. The winners are chosen by you, with your vote!

How do they work?
There are two stages, nominations and vote. In the former, you nominate games that you think deserve to win; you can nominate as many games in as many categories you like. Read a list of nomination categories here. Noms phase is closed! Peek at the noms here!
The top five nominees advance to the second phase: here you can cast just one vote in every category; the nominee with the most votes wins! Voting is over!

Where and when will the ceremony be held?
This year the ceremony will be held on AGS IRC, a chat channel for dudes and dudettes like us. The datetime is: Sat 5, Mar 2011 21:00 GMT!

Who's behind this?
This year the awards are organised by me (bicilotti), with the great help of CJ (forum-wide announcements and renewed nomination page) and Jake + Al Ninio (IRC ceremony).

I'm a non native english speaker. If you find mistakes in this post, or unidiomatic english, please spank me! I am a naughty boy!

ddq · Sat 08/01/2011 18:06:53

Naturally, I will be campaigning for Oceanspirit Dennis as Best Player Character. This year's awards will be quite fun, I think!

cianty · Sat 08/01/2011 19:31:28

Oh boy, I look forward to it!

arj0n · Sat 08/01/2011 20:51:45

Not that it really matters but the entry "Street Racing" is probably not
really a valid entry since it isn't an AGS game but a GameMaker file...

bicilotti · Sat 08/01/2011 21:24:20

Thanks to our staunch chairman Chris Jones we now have

nomination page

And after last year's feedback:

✓ it's now possible to vote commercial games in every category
✓ there is a nice and big forum announcement for nomination phase too!

Nominations will close 30^th January, at 23:30GMT

I am very grateful to Pumaman for his superb help! Show him live too!

Yes, I've stolen those symbols from Atelier. Ah!

bicilotti · Sat 08/01/2011 21:31:52

Quote from: Arj0n on Sat 08/01/2011 20:51:45
Not that it really matters but the entry "Street Racing" is probably not
really a valid entry since it isn't an AGS game but a GameMaker file...

:o That should be erased from the DB :o Thanks!

*PMs a mod

LRH · Sat 08/01/2011 22:37:06

I nominated some of my own games as well as others of course. Is this frowned upon?

bicilotti · Sat 08/01/2011 22:43:53

Quote from: Domithan on Sat 08/01/2011 22:37:06
I nominated some of my own games as well as others of course. Is this frowned upon?

Not at all! If you want to get in the shortlist I advise you to post in the FYC thread though!

Igor Hardy · Sun 09/01/2011 00:05:07

Problem: Indiana Jones and the Seven Cities of Gold DEMO is not classified as a demo, therefore has little chance of getting nominated!

Wersus · Sun 09/01/2011 00:22:53

Hmm... Is it so that if the game doesn't have a panel review, it can't be nominated as a short game (as it's a newly added game)?

Igor Hardy · Sun 09/01/2011 00:30:30

Quote from: Wersus on Sun 09/01/2011 00:22:53
Hmm... Is it so that if the game doesn't have a panel review, it can't be nominated as a short game (as it's a newly added game)?

Really? That sucks! An awful lot of the listed games doesn't have a panel review yet, including the title I'm thinking about right now.

bicilotti · Sun 09/01/2011 02:07:04

Quote from: Wersus on Sun 09/01/2011 00:22:53
Hmm... Is it so that if the game doesn't have a panel review, it can't be nominated as a short game (as it's a newly added game)?

Quote from: Ascovel on Sun 09/01/2011 00:30:30
Really? That sucks! An awful lot of the listed games doesn't have a panel review yet, including the title I'm thinking about right now.

Yes, I overlooked the fact that the panel is now in charge to rate game length (and type, in case of non adventure games).

I've PM'd CJ, hopefully before midnight we'll come back with a solution.

If you have already nominated, pm me and I'll manually record your preference.

archived post here
I've asked CJ to manually move
Shades of Greye
Oceanspirit Dennis: Pirates on the Poopdeck!
Barn Runner Halloween 1: Fully Automatic Mojo
Disquiet
to the non adventure category.

Still, I've got in my hands a list of 16 non-rated games:

Episode 2: Redpants meets Robinson Clauseau
[ M ] Celtic Chaos - episode two : fishermen's fiends
[ M? ] Hard Space: Conquest of the Gayliks!
[ S ] Kitten Adventures
[ S ] The Astonishing Captain Skull
[ S ] Robolution
[ M ]Warning: Fragile! - Chapter I
[ M ] A Raindog Story
[ M ] Snakes of Avalon
[ S ] Abduction
[ S ] Oceanspirit Dennis: The Naked & The Ninja
[ S ] OceanSpirit Dennis: A Ray of Hope
[ S ] Echoes of Terra
[ S ] Dacey in the Dark - Prelude
[ M ] Professor Neely And The Death Ray Of Doom
[ S ] Fur Balls 1 - evil be thy name: Bundles of mayhem!
I can't play them all, so please help a wop out:
tell me which ones aren't short at all, so I can erase them from the list
tell me which ones are indeed short! These batch will be insta-submitted to the panelist for moving in "short games" category (short: <30mins).
I'd like to submit the list before midnight, so be quick!
edit: before each title you see the hypotetical category of nonrated games based on feedback I've received / my personal experience as a gamer.
People who provided feedback: ddq, Dualnames, bicilotti-looking-at-ultimategamessolutions, tabata, arj0n

arj0n · Sun 09/01/2011 10:52:39

[M] Warning: Fragile! - Chapter I

m0ds · Sun 09/01/2011 15:37:34

Nice one Bici, best of luck with this!

straydogstrut · Sun 09/01/2011 17:40:12

Wow, there are a lot of very deserving games to nominate here - good work everyone!=)

I know this is just the nominations stage, and it's the first time i've voted in one of these so I might've misunderstood, but shouldn't there be a grace period for FYC posts before nominations are opened?

I mean, it seems that if I vote now I might miss any late FYC posts, yet the point of the thread seems to be to highlight any games we may have overlooked? Also if we're to suggest plausible categories for games, does that mean the current ones might change? IMO, for example, Blockz should come under more than just Best Demo.

Should I hold off my votes until closer to the end of the nominations phase then? *confused*

bicilotti · Sun 09/01/2011 18:29:51

Quote from: straydogstrut on Sun 09/01/2011 17:40:12
Wow, there are a lot of very deserving games to nominate here - good work everyone!=)

I know this is just the nominations stage, and it's the first time i've voted in one of these so I might've misunderstood, but shouldn't there be a grace period for FYC posts before nominations are opened?

I mean, it seems that if I vote now I might miss any late FYC posts, yet the point of the thread seems to be to highlight any games we may have overlooked? Also if we're to suggest plausible categories for games, does that mean the current ones might change? IMO, for example, Blockz should come under more than just Best Demo.

Should I hold off my votes until closer to the end of the nominations phase then? *confused*

Hi stray!

Yes, a grace period could do for the noms stage (duly noted for 2011

), for this year keep in mind you have three weeks to make up your mind!

There was a slight problems with categories, but it has been almost completely corrected (I'll make an announcement on this thread soon) and they're not going to change!

My advice is: if you aren't an hardcore AGS player just give a week to try the games in FYC and then happy nominating!

bicilotti · Sun 09/01/2011 19:35:52

Ok, categories are 100% sorted out! Everybody, say : "Thank you Pumaman!"

Get nominating, folks!

Igor Hardy · Sun 09/01/2011 19:45:56

Thank you Pumaman!

Wyz · Sun 09/01/2011 19:46:50

Thank you Pumaman!

straydogstrut · Sun 09/01/2011 19:56:28

Thank you Pumaman (and bicilotti)!

Hugs and kisses,

straydogstrut ;-)

Tabata · Sun 09/01/2011 20:00:41

"Thank you Pumaman!"

... and also: "Thank you bicilotti!"

Bulbapuck · Sun 09/01/2011 20:18:18

Thank you Pumaman!

LRH · Sun 09/01/2011 20:18:18

Thank you Pumaman!

(And Bici, of course.)

cianty · Sun 09/01/2011 22:23:11

Absolutely! Thank you Pumaman! And thank you bicilotti as well!

Dualnames · Sun 09/01/2011 22:36:00

Thank you Pumaman and Bicilotti!

*hugs*

Galen · Mon 10/01/2011 00:37:29

Thank you Pumalotti and Biccaman.

Stupot · Mon 10/01/2011 07:59:04

Thank you Beavis and Butthead.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Mon 10/01/2011 08:17:46

Go forth my Hard Spacers and nominate the brave and mostly homosexual crew of the Penetrator.

They need all the encouragement they can get!

Wonkyth · Thu 13/01/2011 12:13:43

Thankyou Biciman and Pumalotti!

Ponch · Thu 13/01/2011 17:52:22

Well, I've made my nominations. And it made me realize how many AGS games I haven't played this year.

Oh well, I did my part. And you should do yours too. Now get out there and nominate something!*

- Ponch
------------
* Especially Barn Runner

bicilotti · Sat 15/01/2011 06:00:53

Almost a week has passed, 2 weeks to go before the nomination phase is over!

Do you think a worthy game should be added to the FYC thread? Consider doing it yourself, even if you're not the author!
State your preferences over the IRC ceremony date? Which weekdate / time suits you best?

Igor Hardy · Sat 15/01/2011 07:47:58

Quote from: bicilotti on Sat 15/01/2011 06:00:53
State your preferences over the IRC ceremony date? Which weekdate / time suits you best?

Will the 2nd phase of voting also take 1 month?

bicilotti · Sat 15/01/2011 08:23:45

Quote from: Ascovel on Sat 15/01/2011 07:47:58
Quote from: bicilotti on Sat 15/01/2011 06:00:53
State your preferences over the IRC ceremony date? Which weekdate / time suits you best?
Will the 2nd phase of voting also take 1 month?

3 weeks (as the nomination phase)

Wonkyth · Sat 15/01/2011 10:42:37

As long as the ceremony is on a weekend, I should be able to manage it.

Baron · Tue 18/01/2011 04:23:36

I've been dutifully playing the games in the FYC thread and am now trying to nominate but all I get is a "Service Unavailable" message when I click the link. Anyone else having problems?

arj0n · Tue 18/01/2011 07:45:53

Yes, on 17-01-2011 I got the same error....

bicilotti · Tue 18/01/2011 07:58:49

Quote from: Baron on Tue 18/01/2011 04:23:36
I've been dutifully playing the games in the FYC thread and am now trying to nominate but all I get is a "Service Unavailable" message when I click the link. Anyone else having problems?

Quote from: Arj0n on Tue 18/01/2011 07:45:53
Yes, on 17-01-2011 I got the same error....

Thanks for letting me know "Service unavailable" smells IIS at its best.

CJ has not been around last few days, I'll pm him this now.

arj0n · Fri 21/01/2011 09:54:02

Aaand, nominations is working again

bicilotti · Fri 21/01/2011 10:56:39

Quote from: Arj0n on Fri 21/01/2011 09:54:02
Aaand, nominations is working again

Yes indeed! Vote Now! There's still a minor tweak to be done to the page*, but nothing should discourage you from voting righ now!

*I'm so abusing CJ I feel he'd like to opensource my anus

bicilotti · Sun 23/01/2011 06:46:54

Best Sound Effects

and

Best Voice Work

are a tad short on vote count! Make sure to check & nominate games which excel in those departments!

bicilotti · Thu 27/01/2011 13:46:22

Last few days to vote!

cat · Thu 27/01/2011 13:48:23

Aaaah, still so many games to play...

abstauber · Thu 27/01/2011 14:36:21

Thanks Bicilotti and Pumaman!

Gosh, I have played like 4 games of these... Let's see if I can catch up this weekend, but the new job keeps me busy like hell

Igor Hardy · Sat 29/01/2011 05:22:28

Nominations are not working again!

bicilotti · Sat 29/01/2011 05:24:39

Quote from: Ascovel on Sat 29/01/2011 05:22:28
Nominations are not working again!

Indeed, since this aagternoon ( which is quite strange ); pm'd CJ!

bicilotti · Sun 30/01/2011 08:33:20

CJ's not around and the noms'll close soon.

Hence I'll grant an extension, aka 48 hours from when the nom page goes up again.

m0ds · Sun 30/01/2011 19:08:21

D'oh! Thanks for the extension. I'll get my nominations in when it's fixed

Pumaman · Sun 30/01/2011 19:48:08

Sorry about this, it seems like the server doesn't have enough RAM to run ASP.NET and keeps shutting it down.

I've restarted it for now, but I probably need to upgrade to a better server before we can go live with the new website.

I've also extended the nominations deadline to 1 Feb at 23:30 GMT

bicilotti · Sun 30/01/2011 20:17:29

Quote from: Pumaman on Sun 30/01/2011 19:48:08
[...]

Hooray and thanks!

Last days to vote, this time for RUALZZ!!!!1!!

SSH · Tue 01/02/2011 06:12:09

Seems to be cacked again :'(

bicilotti · Tue 01/02/2011 09:19:55

Quote from: SSH on Tue 01/02/2011 06:12:09
Seems to be cacked again :'(

%&Â£%Â£

pm'd the Man. IIRC voting is on a different machine, so we should bypass the problem.

Pumaman · Fri 04/02/2011 19:08:01

Arg, sorry about this! Restarted it.

Igor Hardy · Fri 04/02/2011 19:20:36

Thanks. Too bad the server is giving trouble at such time.

So how does it work after the downtime? A few more hours of voting left?

bicilotti · Fri 04/02/2011 19:22:16

Quote from: Ascovel on Fri 04/02/2011 19:20:36
So how does it work after the downtime? A few more hours of voting left?

Till 23:00 GMT of saturday. VOTE NOW!

bicilotti · Sat 05/02/2011 13:27:22

Last few hours to vote!

bicilotti · Sat 05/02/2011 23:37:33

Noms are over, stop voting! And watch this space!

bicilotti · Sun 06/02/2011 02:52:52

Quadruple post!

I will wait for CJ to erase the forum wide announcement before officialy closing the nominations and announcing the nominees on the wiki. Until then (hopefully tomorrow) here's a pathetic excuse for a noms presentation: AGS Awards 2010 nominees!

And please tell me what time/hours you'd be more likely able to attend the ceremony

Dualnames · Sun 06/02/2011 03:01:21

AWESOME AWESOME NOMINATION ANNOUNCEMENT!

Ponch · Sun 06/02/2011 03:44:12

Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 06/02/2011 02:52:52
And please tell me what time/hours you'd be more likely able to attend the ceremony

I'm not sophisticated enough to attend things in cyberspace like you crazy kids do today. I can't afford one of those virtual reality suits and spinning chairs like I saw in that documentary The Lawnmower Man. Is there no chance we can get a downloadable ceremony like in years past? (For old farts like myself who avoid the information super highway because all you kids drive like maniacs?) :'(

Ryan Timothy B · Sun 06/02/2011 03:46:02

Hey Bici, that url is throwing me an Untrusted Connection warning. Just so ya know.

Calin Leafshade · Sun 06/02/2011 03:57:47

it's a selfsigned ssl cert. Its perfectly safe you just cant guarantee its bicis server.

YOU MIGHT BE GETTING A FAKE NOMINATION THINGY MADE BY SOME NEFARIOUS USER!

Best Game

Eternally Us
Eternally Us
Eternally Us
Eternally Us
Eternally Us

Please select 1.

Dualnames · Sun 06/02/2011 04:04:21

Quote from: Ponch on Sun 06/02/2011 03:44:12
Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 06/02/2011 02:52:52
And please tell me what time/hours you'd be more likely able to attend the ceremony

I'm not sophisticated enough to attend things in cyberspace like you crazy kids do today. I can't afford one of those virtual reality suits and spinning chairs like I saw in that documentary The Lawnmower Man. Is there no chance we can get a downloadable ceremony like in years past? (For old farts like myself who avoid the information super highway because all you kids drive like maniacs?) :'(

You got nominated goddamn you! You owe this to me! You know how much money did I send to bicilotti?!

Igor Hardy · Sun 06/02/2011 08:13:05

Ah, what a nice thing to see after waking up! What a great thing to start a new day with!

Congrats to the nominees! And may the snakest ones win (something)!

bicilotti · Sun 06/02/2011 10:03:16

Quote from: Ryan Timothy on Sun 06/02/2011 03:46:02
Hey Bici, that url is throwing me an Untrusted Connection warning. Just so ya know.

I wrote https instead of the usual http. Now's corrected: please try and tell me if it is all ok.

Darius Poyer · Sun 06/02/2011 10:08:47

Sweet presentation sir! seems I got some nominations for rein as well, like best short game and eh, something else. needless to say I'm fairly exited.

arj0n · Sun 06/02/2011 10:09:03

URL is still written as https in your post :-)

Awesome presentation btw!!

Technocrat · Sun 06/02/2011 10:13:23

Oh AWESOME! If Technobabylon doesn't win something I'm going to be pretty miffed, what with all those categories!

If it's on a weekend, I can probably join in any time. And if not...uhm...11am-6pm GMT?

tzachs · Sun 06/02/2011 11:17:45

Wow, some really nice effects there!
And congratulations to all the nominees!

straydogstrut · Sun 06/02/2011 12:30:10

Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 06/02/2011 02:52:52
Until then (hopefully tomorrow) here's a pathetic excuse for a noms presentation..

That was brilliant Bici! Loved the effects and congrats to all the nominees!=D

Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 06/02/2011 02:52:52
And please tell me what time/hours you'd be more likely able to attend the ceremony

I haven't used a chatroom for about 10 years (seriously) but I think I can dust off the old acronyms and figure out how to use an IRC client. Weekends are fine for me, or any time after 1830 GMT (of course, if the ceremony is to be held during the day then no worries).

Dualnames · Sun 06/02/2011 12:34:26

I've got to say, if anyone hasn't used an irc client for ages, he may occasionally fail to do so on the exact night, so try joining just before the big night, see if you still can and stuff. Plus the more, the merrier!

cianty · Sun 06/02/2011 13:33:55

Congrats to the nomiated games! I see a lot of rightful entries there. It's good to see one's own favourites represented.

I don't think there's any doubt that the ceremony needs to take place on a weekend. By the way, how long will it roughly take?

bicilotti · Sun 06/02/2011 14:24:39

Quote from: cianty on Sun 06/02/2011 13:33:55
I don't think there's any doubt that the ceremony needs to take place on a weekend. By the way, how long will it roughly take?

40 minutes usually.

I'd say saturday night but many agsers prefer to go out and get drunk o saturday nights.
I'd like this ceremony to be inclusive to aussies and americans too (which could be impossible): 12AM Saturday (or sunday) anyone?

Snarky · Sun 06/02/2011 15:15:43

Depends on what timezone you're talking about, doesn't it?

And I assume there'll be a voting period first? We're not moving straight from the nominations to the awards ceremony, are we?

Stupot · Sun 06/02/2011 15:28:25

I made a list of all 20 nominated titles and the 5 demos so that I can try to make sure I've played them all.
Here it is incase anyone else finds it useful:

Spoiler

By the Numbers
Eternally Us
Infinity Bit
Operation Forklift
Space Pool Alpha
Hard Space
Rein
The Journey Down
Earl Bobby is Looking for a Loo
Oceanspirit Dennis: Blades of Passion
Ben Jordan Case 2: Deluxe
Death: Episode One
Professor Neely
Technobabylon - Part I
Technobabylon - Part II
Snakes of Avalon
A Woman for All Seasons
1st Drop
Barn Runner: Halloween 1
Kuma Story
Head Over Heels

and the demos:
Blockz
Indy and the Crystal Cursors
Indiana Jones and the Seven Cities of Gold
Matt to the Future
Quantumnauts

[close]

Congrats to all the titles on the list, and good luck to all parties!

LRH · Sun 06/02/2011 15:48:48

Congrats to the nomz.

bicilotti · Sun 06/02/2011 19:09:47

Quote from: Snarky on Sun 06/02/2011 15:15:43
Depends on what timezone you're talking about, doesn't it?

And I assume there'll be a voting period first? We're not moving straight from the nominations to the awards ceremony, are we?

Ehehe, you and your democratic concerns!

Of course there will be voting!

Aaand yes, depends on the timezones (simple clock algebra tells me that 12-6 or 12+8/9 could be bearable to non europeans. Keep your suggestions coming!)

*updates the wiki

bicilotti · Sun 06/02/2011 19:44:11

Noms are officialy closed!

check the AGS Awards 2010 nominees presentation
or simply the AGS Awards 2010 nominees - wiki page

112 voted, more than doubling last year's number!

Igor Hardy · Sun 06/02/2011 20:05:04

Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 06/02/2011 19:44:11
112 voted, more than doubling last year's number!

That's interesting, and it'd be the nice to keep that doubling tendency for future years.

Would it be possible to also reveal how many people voted during nominations in Awards 2007 and 2008?

theo · Sun 06/02/2011 20:19:16

Sweet! Glad to see JD nominated for so many different awards. :o Thanks all!

I can't believe my multi dimensional spaghetti code didn't make it to best programming though.

Kick-ass presentation btw, bici!

bicilotti · Sun 06/02/2011 20:24:22

Quote from: Ascovel on Sun 06/02/2011 20:05:04
Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 06/02/2011 19:44:11
112 voted, more than doubling last year's number!

That's interesting, and it'd be the nice to keep that doubling tendency for future years.

Would it be possible to also reveal how many people voted during nominations in Awards 2007 and 2008?

Being my second year in charge I am only sure of last year's numbers (i.e. 55). We should prod SSH leak some data!

Quote from: theo on Sun 06/02/2011 20:19:16
Kick-ass presentation btw, bici!

To everyone who liked it, thanks!

And congrats to the noms!

Ponch · Sun 06/02/2011 22:37:20

Quote from: Dualnames on Sun 06/02/2011 04:04:21
You got nominated goddamn you! You owe this to me! You know how much money did I send to bicilotti?!

Shh! If everyone finds out, they'll know I'm trying to buy this election!

Also, kick ass presentation, Bicilotti.

theo · Sun 06/02/2011 23:17:39

Meanwhile in AGS land

bicilotti · Sun 06/02/2011 23:37:58

Quote from: theo on Sun 06/02/2011 23:17:39
Meanwhile in AGS land

SSH · Mon 07/02/2011 05:55:31

I forget, exactly, however this says there were 110 people submitted nominations a few days before voting closed in the awards for 2008, and before that it was write-in rather than the current form, and there were far fewer. There's a retrospective of the awards for 2007 here.

Dualnames · Mon 07/02/2011 11:34:32

AWESOME POST THEO!! You sir, just made my day. Mostly cause that was the blog post title (almost) that can be found here

bicilotti · Mon 07/02/2011 11:51:17

Quote from: SSH on Mon 07/02/2011 05:55:31
I forget, exactly, however this says there were 110 people submitted nominations a few days before voting closed in the awards for 2008, and before that it was write-in rather than the current form, and there were far fewer. There's a retrospective of the awards for 2007 here.

Thanks for the number! Judging from the first blog post those seem votes rather than noms, am I wrong?

SSH · Mon 07/02/2011 12:16:44

Oh yes, you're right. Well, unless I posted something on the forums at the time, I don't know the number of noms.

Igor Hardy · Mon 07/02/2011 16:53:16

Sweet image, Theo

But I wonder how Jack is holding himself on that tree. His technique looks pretty suspicious...

Quote from: SSH on Mon 07/02/2011 05:55:31
I forget, exactly, however this says there were 110 people submitted nominations a few days before voting closed in the awards for 2008, and before that it was write-in rather than the current form, and there were far fewer. There's a retrospective of the awards for 2007 here.

Thanks for the info. Even without definite numbers for 2008, it seems like it's safe to say the numbers are growing each year.

bicilotti · Mon 07/02/2011 22:43:57

And since more than someone was interested:

http://shutupload.com/dl/b991c55d5808/ <-- source files of the presentation (one day i should convert it into a "pinball text module", but these months are busy for me)

m0ds · Mon 07/02/2011 23:47:46

Trippy nominations thingy Mr b

Nice one!

Al_Ninio · Tue 08/02/2011 00:42:59

RPS-ed!
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/07/ags-awards-2010-down-to-finalists/

Monsieur OUXX · Tue 08/02/2011 10:01:23

Can't wait to vote.

EDIT: The Journey down is an awesome game, but it doesn't have particularly brilliant puzzles (most of the time you just click on an object to unlock the progress of the story). So I'm not surprised it's nominated in every possible category, except for the "puzzles" one.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Thu 10/02/2011 15:12:06

I appreciate all the Man-ominations for Hard Space. It shows that manly men still DO exist, after all, and like to make manly poses with their pants off whilst saving galaxies from certain doom.

To all you manly men (and women) I say thank you. Just make sure you cast your manly votes as well when the final round surfaces, and perhaps I will make a manlier sequel with more action, sex, and mystery.

And here's a special message from the captain himself to all of his fans:

Igor Hardy · Thu 10/02/2011 15:33:35

Quote from: Ouxxey_games on Tue 08/02/2011 10:01:23
Can't wait to vote.

EDIT: The Journey down is an awesome game, but it doesn't have particularly brilliant puzzles (most of the time you just click on an object to unlock the progress of the story). So I'm not surprised it's nominated in every possible category, except for the "puzzles" one.

Actually TJD is nominated in puzzles too. It's nominated in every eligible category except for programming.

bicilotti · Thu 10/02/2011 15:44:17

By the way, there has been some delay on vote-page-setup because of me being thick.
Few more days and all should be cake!

Ponch · Thu 10/02/2011 16:50:39

To all the Barn Runner fans, I want to say thanks for the nomination. And if I win an AGS award (having never done so in all the years I've been a member here :'( ), then I promise I'll release Barn Runner: Fully Automatic Mojo (AGS Award Winning Special Edition) with an especially sexy ending!

That's right! I'm willing to buy your vote with cheesecake!

The choice is yours, AGS Community!*

- Ponch
_____________
*Remember, vote early and vote often!

Calin Leafshade · Thu 10/02/2011 16:59:45

Were you aware that that police officer seems to have no pants on?

Ponch · Thu 10/02/2011 17:15:10

Quote from: Calin Elephantsittingonface on Thu 10/02/2011 16:59:45
Were you aware that that police officer seems to have no pants on?

Shh! I'm trying to buy votes here!

Igor Hardy · Thu 10/02/2011 17:30:56

Quote from: Ponch on Thu 10/02/2011 17:15:10
Quote from: Calin Elephantsittingonface on Thu 10/02/2011 16:59:45
Were you aware that that police officer seems to have no pants on?

Shh! I'm trying to buy votes here!

Buy her some pants first!

Dualnames · Thu 10/02/2011 20:14:45

I'm fine with her pants gone missing. Why isn't her top missing though? FOR REALZ BRO!

Ponch · Thu 10/02/2011 20:36:36

Quote from: Dualnames on Thu 10/02/2011 20:14:45
Why isn't her top missing though?

Because I haven't won an AGS award!!!1!

Snake · Thu 10/02/2011 22:21:30

I want to say thank you to those that nominated Matt to the Future for best demo. Maybe it'll go further than Castle of Fire did back in '08.

But only with your vote!

So vote before you get devoured by an enormous zombie porcupine!!1

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Fri 11/02/2011 01:32:44

Wow, check out the bandwagon hoppers-on!

Baron · Fri 11/02/2011 02:32:44

There's been some pressure for me to up the ante by posting something hot and sexy to generate votes for Snakes of Avalon:

Maybe if we win something she'll go skinny dipping.... :o

Ponch · Fri 11/02/2011 03:14:06

Quote from: ProgZmax on Fri 11/02/2011 01:32:44
Wow, check out the bandwagon hoppers-on!

Hey, buddy, I know a bandwagon when I see one! And in my defense, I was just trying to be one of the cool kids. It's clearly Snake who is copying me by following the trail I blazed shortly after you blazed it.

And Baron, that post may be entirely too sexy for this forum.

Dualnames · Fri 11/02/2011 05:00:44

Now all that I need is Ben304 to draw Amber and Fio in a Lesbian. PLZ.

ddq · Fri 11/02/2011 06:01:26

Quote from: Dualnames on Fri 11/02/2011 05:00:44
Now all that I need is Ben304 to draw Amber and Fio in a Lesbian. PLZ.

I got this.

Kweepa · Fri 11/02/2011 06:51:39

The cast of Space Pool Alpha thank you for your votes!

If there are any bandwagons going, I'll be damned if I'm not going to jump on them. Shameless plug bandwagon? Check. No pants bandwagon? Check, and plaid.

Dualnames · Fri 11/02/2011 06:55:05

I don't care who wins, just show boobies!!

ThreeOhFour · Fri 11/02/2011 07:23:37

ddq has now created my most favorite picture ever ever.

Ryan Timothy B · Fri 11/02/2011 13:31:46

@ddq Lmao man. Totally took advantage of poor dualy's typo. haha I love it.

Monsieur OUXX · Fri 11/02/2011 15:16:45

Quote from: Ascovel on Thu 10/02/2011 15:33:35
Quote from: Ouxxey_games on Tue 08/02/2011 10:01:23
EDIT: The Journey down is an awesome game, but it doesn't have particularly brilliant puzzles . So I'm not surprised it's nominated in every possible category, except for the "puzzles" one.

Actually TJD is nominated in puzzles too. It's nominated in every eligible category except for programming.

You misunderstood me. I blame my very long sentence with double negations!
I meant "as a brilliant game it's normal it should be nominated in almost all categories. But it's not very legitimate to nominate it for Best Puzzles".
Anyway, it's nominated, so it's too late to change it, and once again it's a brilliiant game anyway.

Vince Twelve · Fri 11/02/2011 16:19:21

Quote from: Dualnames on Fri 11/02/2011 06:55:05
I don't care who wins, just show boobies!!

Monsieur OUXX · Fri 11/02/2011 16:22:23

In French, "bit" is the slang for "p*nis", which makes your post even more wrong. 8)

Igor Hardy · Fri 11/02/2011 16:31:53

Quote from: Ouxxey_games on Fri 11/02/2011 16:22:23
In French, "bit" is the slang for "p*nis", which makes your post even more wrong. 8)

Or even more right - depending on your point of view.

Vince Twelve · Fri 11/02/2011 16:36:24

If it's wrong, then I don't want to be right.

This thread has taken a rather weird turn the last couple pages hasn't it? What were we talking about? Oh yeah. Congrats to all the nominees! I look forward to the upcoming mortal combat which is traditionally used to decide the winner of each category as far as I care to remember.

Ponch · Fri 11/02/2011 18:02:25

Quote from: Vince Twelve on Fri 11/02/2011 16:36:24
This thread has taken a rather AWESOME turn the last couple pages hasn't it?

It sure has!

Also, nicely done, ddq!

Dualnames · Fri 11/02/2011 20:03:51

Awesomely awesome spoofs btw.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Sat 12/02/2011 06:31:30

VINCE LIVES! :o

theo · Sat 12/02/2011 10:17:17

woah I love where this is going. :o

bicilotti · Sun 13/02/2011 19:49:42

Time has come, gentlemen.

cast your vote

Voting will end Fri 34, Mar 2011. So the ceremony could be held at:

# Saturday Night (21 BST)
# Sunday Midday or early noon (12-14 BST)

Do tell me what you think/suggest about that!

theo · Sun 13/02/2011 21:01:07

An interesting moral dilemma has just hit me in the face.

Would I be a d1ck if I voted for JD wherever possible?
Would I be stupid if I didn't?

Am I, in fact a stupid d1ck for even asking? hmmm.

bicilotti · Sun 13/02/2011 21:12:23

If you think the game deserves your vote in that category, I don't see any problem!

cianty · Sun 13/02/2011 21:26:28

Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 13/02/2011 21:12:23
If you think the game deserves your vote in that category, I don't see any problem!

Same here. Voting against one's own true opinion just for the sake of not voting for oneself... that's kinda stupid, I think.

theo · Sun 13/02/2011 21:42:00

I am for obvious reasons slightly biased in this matter.

I will however do my best to cast my vote where I truly believe it belongs. Thanks.

Armageddon · Sun 13/02/2011 21:53:06

I voted JD for most things. It's so too perfect.

ddq · Sun 13/02/2011 21:58:27

I vote for Saturday. May the best games win!

arj0n · Sun 13/02/2011 21:59:20

Votes placed.

Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 13/02/2011 19:49:42
So the ceremony could be held at:

# Saturday Night (21 BST)
# Sunday Midday or early noon (12-14 BST)

Do tell me what you think/suggest about that!

Cyborg says dates & time are perfectly doable, although I prefer the Saturday...

ShiverMeSideways · Sun 13/02/2011 23:02:19

According to this, it seems BST means two hours in the past for me, so Saturday night would be perfect for me, 'cos Sunday will probably be reserved for Uni homework or studying or something.

Also, a bit late, but here's my public service announcement:

QuoteHave you found yourself gettin' cozy with your mate, preparing to have a wild night on the moon of Gleemoot V and you thought to yourself "Hey, what I really need now is some music to get me in Stallion mode..." and you just couldn't find the right soundtrack to fit your earth-shattering, planet-melting, black hole-opening masculinity? Well, look no further than the Hard Space: Conquest of the Gayliks soundtrack! With such testosteron-boosting cuts as the "Hard Space Main Theme", "Shirt Off!" and the "SS (SexShip) Penetrator", you're sure to give the unsuspecting victim of your GIANORMOUS affections a night she'll never forget! Vote for it now in the AGS Awards and we will send it to your house, along with a can of Sloppy Joe's Hand Cream Lotion and a stack of the finest porno rags that can be found in an old man's basement this side of the Spiral Arm! Not only that, but we'll also throw in a discount coupon for the doctor's office when your head will undoubtedly explode from the surge of manly manliness that will go through it the instant you hear the first notes.

Disclaimer: one or several of the things contained in here might be total BS. However, you should still vote for it.

On a more serious note, being nominated is just huge for me, even if I don't win (and I probably won't, but maybe I will, although it's possible I won't) and I would like to publicly thank ProgZMax again for the huge opportunity of working with him and I would also like to thank everyone who nominated Hard Space for Best Music, you guys and gals make my metalized black heart warm and my pants tight!

Also, I would like to plug one of the most kind and supportive people around - Technocrat. He's been really great to work with, and he has made some excellent games, and he's just awesome - he deserves to win SOMETHING, dammit! I know Technobabylon's a big thing, but don't overlook Operation Forklift, either! (And I'm not just saying that 'cos I did the music for it, but also because it's a great game and very innovative for AGS, GO PLAY IT NOW!)

Ok, long (and slightly emotional) post over. Thanks again to everyone and cheers! Can't wait for the ceremony!

Kweepa · Mon 14/02/2011 00:29:11

No, no, no! You should never vote for yourself! That is just wrong. You can't possibly be objective. It's vanity gone amok!

Dualnames · Mon 14/02/2011 02:57:28

Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 13/02/2011 19:49:42
Voting will end Fri 3, Mar 2011. So the ceremony could be held at:

Actually 3, Mar 2011 is a Thursday...
I'd say Saturday regardless. But I'd prefer a Friday really.

bicilotti · Mon 14/02/2011 03:33:59

Quote from: Dualnames on Mon 14/02/2011 02:57:28
Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 13/02/2011 19:49:42
Voting will end Fri 3, Mar 2011. So the ceremony could be held at:

Actually 3, Mar 2011 is a Thursday...
I'd say Saturday regardless. But I'd prefer a Friday really.

:o mar 4, thanks for noticing. corrected now!

WHAM · Mon 14/02/2011 06:52:46

Saturday!

If I understand the BST correctly, this should be 2300 here in Finland, so that's just perfect for me.

Stupot · Mon 14/02/2011 08:38:23

In case anyone finds it useful - BST is GMT+1 (although BST doesn't even come into force until the end of March, so it's kind of irrelevent at the moment)

I might miss this coz I'll be visiting chums in Tokyo, but who knows. I might be stuck inside somewhere with nothing else to do at that time.

Jared · Mon 14/02/2011 09:04:12

It seems I'm more out of touch with AGS than I thought... I haven't played a single nominated game, lol.

SpacePirateCaine · Mon 14/02/2011 10:50:26

Quote from: Stupot on Mon 14/02/2011 08:38:23
I might miss this coz I'll be visiting chums in Tokyo, but who knows. I might be stuck inside somewhere with nothing else to do at that time.

If it ends up being 9:00pm BMT, that should be somewhere around 6:00am Sunday Morning here in Tokyo. If you're conscious at that hour, it'll likely still be pretty damned cold outside (Snowing right now, not sure about 2 weeks from now), so curling up someplace warm and watching the awards doesn't seem like such a stretch.

Sunday afternoon (Evening here in JPN) would make it much easier for me to participate without falling asleep at my keyboard, but I can plan for either.

Chicky · Mon 14/02/2011 11:53:52

Yeah Saturday night (gmt) would be great, i'm filming all day friday so that's a no no for me.

bicilotti · Tue 15/02/2011 10:12:03

Mr. ShiverMeSideways was kind enough to update the wiki

http://americangirlscouts.org/agswiki/AGS_Awards_2010

now credits shows who contributed in that particular category (before it was teh game main author, even if s/he didn't do all by him/herself).

CalinBenAscoBaron, yours might need some more tweaking. If it is so, feel free to abuse the wiki and let us know!

Gilbert · Tue 15/02/2011 10:17:10

Quote from: bicilotti on Tue 15/02/2011 10:12:03
feel free to abuse the wiki

Now I catch where all these spambots come from!

Snarky · Fri 18/02/2011 23:53:16

Sorry, but can anyone explain/remind me how the "gameplay" category differs from "puzzles"? In most adventure games, and in all the games nominated, the gameplay consists of puzzles, so I fail to see the difference.

bicilotti · Sat 19/02/2011 01:24:03

Quote from: Snarky on Fri 18/02/2011 23:53:16
Sorry, but can anyone explain/remind me how the "gameplay" category differs from "puzzles"? In most adventure games, and in all the games nominated, the gameplay consists of puzzles, so I fail to see the difference.

Quote from: Radiant on Mon 06/10/2008 17:46:41
Gameplay is definitely distinct from puzzles, though. For instance, LOOM has great gameplay but barely any puzzles.

That's a fitting response by Radiant to a similar question (from a couple of years ago).

SSH · Sat 19/02/2011 02:54:02

Thanks so much for doing a great job organising all this, bici! Soon it will be over and you can hibernate for about 9 months.

Meanwhile, perhaps someone could make all the different years awards pages match the 2010 formatting?

Snarky · Sat 19/02/2011 09:18:11

Quote from: bicilotti on Sat 19/02/2011 01:24:03That's a fitting response by Radiant to a similar question (from a couple of years ago).

Quote from: Radiant on Mon 06/10/2008 17:46:41
Gameplay is definitely distinct from puzzles, though. For instance, LOOM has great gameplay but barely any puzzles.

To me this makes about as much sense as having a category for "Best Puzzles" and another category for "Best Inventory Puzzles", but if that's what the categories mean... OK.

Radiant · Sat 19/02/2011 11:02:55

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 19/02/2011 09:18:11
To me this makes about as much sense as having a category for "Best Puzzles" and another category for "Best Inventory Puzzles", but if that's what the categories mean... OK.

Well, it depends on what gameplay you like. If you play adventure games primarily for the puzzles, then you're likely to vote the same to both questions. If, for example, you play them for the exploration, then it's different.

So anyway, it looks like there have been only five games written last year

what's up with the same five names showing up in almost every category? (not that I mind, really, but I found it rather funny to see the nom sheet)

Snarky · Sat 19/02/2011 11:56:29

My argument is more that puzzles only matter for how well they work as gameplay. There's no way, in my opinion, to have a great puzzle that makes for terrible gameplay: if it doesn't play well then it isn't a good puzzle. Quality of puzzles is therefore fully captured by the "Best Gameplay" category, and is clearly one of the main components of that category (since puzzles make up the majority of gameplay in most adventure games). So I don't see the point in breaking out puzzles as its own sub-category, any more than I'd see the point in breaking out inventory puzzles as another category.

straydogstrut · Sat 19/02/2011 12:06:53

I agree, puzzles are one component of the gameplay category, just as I agree with Radiant when he suggests exploration is another (and I play adventure games for the latter). But I don't think puzzles alone make the gameplay. A game may still have terrible gameplay despite having a really great puzzle in my opinion. I think that's why the puzzle category exists: to recognise the great puzzles as distinct, regardless of the worth (or not) of the game they find themselves in.

Snarky · Sat 19/02/2011 12:27:09

Quote from: straydogstrut on Sat 19/02/2011 12:06:53A game may still have terrible gameplay despite having a really great puzzle in my opinion.

I think that requires either that the game is fundamentally broken on some level (e.g. UI, controls, bugs), or that something other than puzzles makes up a large part of the gameplay - for example that there is a lot of exploring in the game (though at some point I think an exploration task becomes a kind of puzzle) - and that this part of the gameplay is really badly done.

I don't think the latter case is particularly plausible (an exploration-focused, puzzle-light adventure game with terrible exploration but brilliant puzzles?), and in either case I don't think it matters, because as I said, puzzles are only important for their role as gameplay. What you describe sounds like a game with a few bright spots in otherwise bad gameplay, and I don't see the point in having a category just to have a chance to accommodate those games. (Especially since it's more likely that the games with the best puzzles will have good overall gameplay, and therefore dominate both categories.)

Radiant · Sat 19/02/2011 12:32:34

Okay. Maybe it would help if we have some concrete examples?

Could some people give the names of well-known adventure games that, in their opinion, have either good puzzles and bad gameplay, or good gameplay and bad puzzles?

straydogstrut · Sat 19/02/2011 13:31:54

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 19/02/2011 12:27:09
Quote from: straydogstrut on Sat 19/02/2011 12:06:53A game may still have terrible gameplay despite having a really great puzzle in my opinion.

I think that requires either that the game is fundamentally broken on some level (e.g. UI, controls, bugs), or that something other than puzzles makes up a large part of the gameplay - for example that there is a lot of exploring in the game (though at some point I think an exploration task becomes a kind of puzzle) - and that this part of the gameplay is really badly done.

I was thinking more along the lines of the former since gameplay covers more than just puzzles. It can encompass all our interactions with the game and the context of those interactions. In adventure games this could include exploration, dialogue and so on (each of which can also be puzzles, I agree). I don't really have an example of a broken game as such though so I will concede this point.

I was also leaving room for games which are simply puzzles. For real examples, lets say Blockz or the Professor Layton games. While in such cases, puzzles would almost exclusively make up the totality of the gameplay, I personally feel the two should be distinct. That is not to suggest that either couldn't appear in either category, but I'm not sure it's fair to compare them under one category alone.

Having said that, the more I think about this, the more i'm swaying to your argument: the puzzles category isn't really necessary if we have a gameplay category. I think the problem lies in our definition of gameplay. Someone who doesn't play for the puzzles may not recognise a great puzzle as great gameplay. I don't see the harm in distinguishing puzzles - a major component of adventure games - so that they get due recognition.

Stupot · Sun 20/02/2011 05:47:22

If a game consisted of JUST puzzles... and you had to go from one room to another, solving puzzles and NOTHING else... then no matter how good those puzzles happen to be, I wouldn't dream of nominating it for a 'best gameplay' award.

Snarky · Sun 20/02/2011 10:22:52

But like I've been saying all along: do we need an award for that? Is there a good reason to honor games that have good puzzles but bad gameplay? The role of puzzles in adventure games is to provide interesting gameplay, surely?

(Personally, I wouldn't have a problem nominating a game like Linus Bruckman for the "best gameplay" award, even if the gameplay consists of one big puzzle, since I think the puzzle plays uncommonly well because of how it's integrated with the storytelling and the control scheme. Or Professor Layton, for that matter. If the gameplay consists of puzzles, and the puzzles are good, which is to say they provide good gameplay, why wouldn't it qualify for best gameplay?)

Igor Hardy · Sun 20/02/2011 11:10:02

Personally I vote a bit differently in each of these two categories. In Puzzles I vote for how original and cleverly constructed are the puzzles. Stand-out and elaborate puzzle concepts is something I find very important to encourage.

When choosing Best Gameplay, on the other hand, I tend to reward things like the puzzles' integration with the rest of the game, the pacing, immersion (in terms of how convincing is the player's illusion of agency), the amount of extra content.

To give a brutal example, I'm significantly more critical of a game's gameplay if it keeps throwing at the player annoying messages like "You're playing a stupid amateur game!" and "This was dumb!" like it happens in Jimmy The Troublemaker, regardless of how good puzzles the game has.

A7A · Sun 20/02/2011 12:33:46

There should be a category for innovation is all I have to say. And for best debutant.

cat · Sun 20/02/2011 12:45:40

DOTT: using the paint on the fence to get a skunk-cat is a puzzle; being able to switch characters and send items through time is a gameplay feature (that, of course, allows for more sophisticated puzzles)

Transpacific: the Mindinterface is a special gameplay feature. The puzzles itself where mainly escape the room, not too innovative.

Loom: completely new gameplay

For me, the gameplay award is for gameplay mechanics and not puzzles. A game can have good puzzles without any special gameplay. But good, innovative gameplay can lead to good puzzles.

bicilotti · Sun 20/02/2011 13:04:04

Quote from: A7A on Sun 20/02/2011 12:33:46
There should be a category for innovation is all I have to say. And for best debutant.

A worthy candidate for 2011 best debutant!

There is a category for best innovation though! (decided by a committee and not public vote).

Dualnames · Sun 20/02/2011 13:51:00

Quote from: A7A on Sun 20/02/2011 12:33:46
There should be a category for innovation is all I have to say. And for best debutant.

I've suggested the best debutant, but I guess no one liked/likes it/likes me.

Snarky · Sun 20/02/2011 13:54:19

cat, you make an interesting distinction. I would respond that the puzzles you describe are also part of the gameplay. What you call gameplay or gameplay features, I would be more inclined to call the "mechanics," though of course the mechanics influence the gameplay.

Could you maybe suggest how the 2010 nominees distinguish themselves in terms of gameplay features/mechanics? For all their qualities and original elements, they are fairly traditional in how they work, aren't they? The only thing I can think of that is a little unusual is the interaction between the real world and the trance in Technobabylon I, and that's pretty much straight-up lifted from Beneath a Steel Sky.

I think we've now had at least three different interpretations of what the gameplay category is for as distinct from puzzles. To me, this strengthens the case that the two should be merged into one category, perhaps "Game Design (puzzles and other gameplay)."

Stupot · Sun 20/02/2011 15:45:31

For me, 'gameplay' covers more than just puzzles.

Things like replayability, multiple endings, multiple characters, linearity... make no mistake, these are all gameplay features... and they all exist regardless of how good/bad or plentiful the puzzles are.

[edit]
Thinking about it, I would use the Blackwell series as examples of games where I would consider voting for Best Gameplay, but not for Best Puzzles. In these games you can switch between characters, you can use the phone and the internet to make enquiries... things like this, for me, really add to the gameplay. And of course, these gameplay elements form the basis of many of the puzzles (i.e. using Joey to go through a wall and overhear a conversation), but in my opinion, the puzzles themselves in Blackwell are not really that special compared to the puzzles in some other games out there.

antrules · Mon 21/02/2011 17:47:50

The Devil's Shroud

- Best Original Story

- Best Puzzles

- Best Background Art

- Best Programming

SSH · Tue 22/02/2011 03:11:16

I think that this point in the process is a little late to have arguments over what categories should be in there. The problem with best newcomer is the definition of newcomer: forum registration date? number of completed games released? number of "proper" games released?

Kweepa · Tue 22/02/2011 05:06:10

Quote from: antrules on Mon 21/02/2011 17:47:50

The Devil's Shroud

I think you missed the boat on the For Your Consideration thread

bicilotti · Wed 23/02/2011 13:10:50

So it's settled!

Sat 5, Mar 2011 21:00 GMT
AGS IRC Ceremony

paolo · Wed 02/03/2011 18:58:39

Quote from: SSH on Tue 22/02/2011 03:11:16
The problem with best newcomer is the definition of newcomer: forum registration date? number of completed games released? number of "proper" games released?

My interpretation of this would be who has made the best first game? In other words, a better title would be "Best First Game". Eligible would be any AGS game that is the first one ever released by an individual, whether a test game or a fully-fledged one.

Igor Hardy · Wed 02/03/2011 19:03:13

Quote from: paolo on Wed 02/03/2011 18:58:39
Quote from: SSH on Tue 22/02/2011 03:11:16
The problem with best newcomer is the definition of newcomer: forum registration date? number of completed games released? number of "proper" games released?

My interpretation of this would be who has made the best first game? In other words, a better title would be "Best First Game". Eligible would be any AGS game that is the first one ever released by an individual, whether a test game or a fully-fledged one.

Would a demo count as a first game?

Snarky · Wed 02/03/2011 19:15:24

And what counts as a first game? I have a credit for beta-testing and proof-reading, but I wouldn't think that would count as previous experience.

paolo · Wed 02/03/2011 20:43:45

Quote from: Ascovel on Wed 02/03/2011 19:03:13
Quote from: paolo on Wed 02/03/2011 18:58:39
Quote from: SSH on Tue 22/02/2011 03:11:16
The problem with best newcomer is the definition of newcomer: forum registration date? number of completed games released? number of "proper" games released?

My interpretation of this would be who has made the best first game? In other words, a better title would be "Best First Game". Eligible would be any AGS game that is the first one ever released by an individual, whether a test game or a fully-fledged one.

Would a demo count as a first game?

I would say so. Perhaps the award would be something like "most promising newcomer", in which case it wouldn't matter whether the game was a demo or a full game.

Quote from: Snarky on Wed 02/03/2011 19:15:24
And what counts as a first game? I have a credit for beta-testing and proof-reading, but I wouldn't think that would count as previous experience.

That's a good point. The nominee would have to be the person who contributes the bulk of the game - the artist or the person who does the scripting. It's not an easy one to pin down, so there would need to be some clear rules about who would qualify.

cat · Thu 03/03/2011 15:16:01

Don't forget to vote! I just did.

Snake · Fri 04/03/2011 03:49:57

AGS Awards?? WHAT'S THE MEANING OF IT!?!2!!

bicilotti · Sat 05/03/2011 17:33:21

TODAY!

AGS IRC CEREMONY
21:00 GMT

you can join via IRC or via the game!

DOWNLOAD LINK FOR THE GAME BELOW

CLICK HERE

Icey · Sat 05/03/2011 19:41:06

About the avatars.

Couldn't you just set them to a specific size when they are clicked on?
It would be nice as a last minute thing.

I can do it for you before to night.

LUniqueDan · Sat 05/03/2011 20:00:41

Group pix before the ceremony.
(Notice Dualnames as LeChuck)

Wyz · Sat 05/03/2011 20:13:54

Btw, Use Right mouse button to face a direction.

See you all in a bit!

bicilotti · Sat 05/03/2011 20:35:24

TWENTYFIVE MINUTES TO GO!

Al_Ninio · Sun 06/03/2011 02:10:31

Here is the raw, unformatted log from the ceremony: CLICK!
Note that you will have to go through plenty of applause and the usual mIRC chaos.

Technocrat · Sun 06/03/2011 05:20:39

Well, my apologies for not being able to attend, but I'm very pleased that Operation: FORKLIFT managed to do so well! Now I just need to get people to play the damned thing!

And congratulations to all the other winners as well!

mode7 · Sun 06/03/2011 08:48:25

I made a recording of it. its 1.3GB. If anyone is interested I could upload it. I just don't know if youtube supports these lengths.

FSi++ · Sun 06/03/2011 11:00:41

Quote from: mode7 on Sun 06/03/2011 08:48:25
I made a recording of it. its 1.3GB. If anyone is interested I could upload it. I just don't know if youtube supports these lengths.

Didn't they change the time limit to 60 minutes lately?

Tabata · Sun 06/03/2011 12:17:10

I would propose, that the creators be awarded with a badge of honor for this successful live interactive â€œAGS-artâ€.

I'll hold my pic in loving memory for this very special night with lot's of beloved â€žpeopleâ€œ around and my bunny-classmates.

Peder 🚀 · Sun 06/03/2011 12:48:10

Damn... I totally forgot about this

. Looks like loads of people turned up using the program!
I assume this will be THE thing to do in the future too?

.

Tabata · Sun 06/03/2011 16:10:20

Here you have my present for those, who made the AGS-Awards-Ceremony possible, the way it happened.

Created and given by a groupie (with little skills, but lots of love) to

... Wyz, Dualnames, m0ds, bicilotti and JimReed (as named in the Readme).

Of course you are not obliged to ruin your signature with it, but these honour badges are here for you to show, how much I love and worship your work.

Edit:
Since ImageShack brings more and more problems, I uploaded the honour-medals elsewhere and replaced them here now.

bicilotti · Sun 06/03/2011 16:30:10

Quote from: Tabata on Sun 06/03/2011 16:10:20
[...]

That's a wonderful present Tabata! Wyz m0ds KimReed and Dualnames had the Lion's Share in it, so praises to them!

Dualnames · Sun 06/03/2011 17:52:21

bici stop being modest!! If it wasn't for you, none of this would happen!
Tabata, thanks a lot. I'm quite happy, cause at some point, my game crashed cause all of you were clapping too much

.

If however I'd choose a man that was behind all this, then damnit that'd be bicilotti. I wouldn't bother collaborating with Wyz (who of course was awesome beyond measure)

So here's to you, sir!

*clap*

Abstauber and Luke, plz upload somewhere. I'm sure anyone would LOVE to watch (re-watch).

m0ds · Sun 06/03/2011 18:24:36

Thanks Tabata! I took up your kind offer. But really it is Dualnames, Bicilotti, JimReed and Wyz's expertise to thank. I just pitched in last minute. It would be great to see you guys take this kind of "AGS technology" further. I know icey certainly wants the source code

cianty · Sun 06/03/2011 21:14:12

Quote from: Mods on Sun 06/03/2011 18:24:36
I know icey certainly wants the source code

So do I!

And yes, thank you again!

Wyz · Sun 06/03/2011 21:47:02

Thanks Tabata for the awesome badge, it will remind me of the awards every time I see it.

I need to point out that it was Cold Virtual Beer and the idea of JimReed to use it for the awards that sprang this all. I just wanted to get it technically sound, and donate the source to be used for initially CVB. But Dualnames and I put in countless hours, along with the help of you beta testers, to give it its final form. Thanks all, it was all worth it, it was truly awesome!

We had around 45 people using it which was beyond my expectations, thanks all for joining!!!

abstauber · Sun 06/03/2011 22:06:33

Here's the offline version

http://rapidshare.com/files/451286805/AGSAwards2011.zip (132 mb)

Sorry about the host, I hope there'll is a "youtube director" around who can upload this 1:50 hrs file there.

arj0n · Sun 06/03/2011 22:13:01

Isn't there someone - [hint]Peder => AGSA-server?[/hint] - who can host an untouched/unconverted recording of this awesome ceremony for some time?

And a million *claps* for making this awesome ceremony possible Wyz, Dualnames, m0ds, bicilotti and JimReed!

Dualnames · Sun 06/03/2011 22:24:39

By the way, the source files have just been uploaded.

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?category=&action=detail&id=1408

arj0n · Sun 06/03/2011 22:30:58

Thanx for the MP4 abstauber.

straydogstrut · Sun 06/03/2011 22:34:12

Quote from: Dualnames on Sun 06/03/2011 22:24:39
By the way, the source files have just been uploaded.

Awesome!! I got the jist of Wyz's original source so will see what I can make of this.

Yay finally got the MP4 downloaded, thanks Abstauber=D Re the youtube thing: seems you need someone who has an old Director account to be able to upload longer than 15 mins, it's no good switching now. I'd offer to host but I don't have my own server so not sure what restrictions my host would put on it..the whole server thing is a bit of a black hole to me i'm afraid. If Peder can host it on his own server, great, i'll be sure to donate.

arj0n · Sun 06/03/2011 22:54:04

I upped a copy of Abstaubers AGS Ceremony recording [MP4] at our server so grab a copy

*HERE*

Will be hosted there for some while

Dualnames · Sun 06/03/2011 23:01:41

Good job, Arj0n. I'll update the first post as well. Thanks a lot, abstauber!

Stupot · Mon 07/03/2011 12:19:31

Quote from: Arj0n on Sun 06/03/2011 22:54:04
I upped a copy of Abstaubers AGS Ceremony recording [MP4] at our server so grab a copy

*HERE*

Will be hosted there for some while

I dunno if it's just me, but my computer is telling me the zip is damaged :-(

Babar · Mon 07/03/2011 12:21:08

I got it fine.

arj0n · Mon 07/03/2011 12:50:48

Quote from: Stupot on Mon 07/03/2011 12:19:31
I dunno if it's just me, but my computer is telling me the zip is damaged :-(

Checked and the archive seems to be fine, as expected.
Maybe your pc is having a hangover from the weekend?

Monsieur OUXX · Mon 07/03/2011 13:48:41

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I missed it.

*sob*

arj0n · Mon 07/03/2011 14:17:01

Quote from: Ouxxey_games on Mon 07/03/2011 13:48:41
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I missed it.

*sob*

Wonkyth missed it too, how can you guyz miss such event

(unless your girlfriend had better plans

)

Vince Twelve · Mon 07/03/2011 14:20:58

I really enjoyed the ceremony as well! Congratulations to all the winners and a huge thank you to the people who put that thing together! Very very cool!

This community puts out a remarkable amount of quality games every year and I don't see it slowing down anytime soon! Yay! clap clap clap lesbians clap

Peder 🚀 · Mon 07/03/2011 17:34:40

I will gladly host a streaming and downloadable HQ version on the AGSArchives server.

theo · Mon 07/03/2011 18:02:47

Quote from: Peder Johnsen on Mon 07/03/2011 17:34:40
I will gladly host a streaming and downloadable HQ version on the AGSArchives server.

That would be awesome. I'd love to easily be able to share this with all sorts of people.

Thanks everyone for your support during the awards campaign and also a huge thanks to duals + team for making the absolutely mindblowingly awesome AGS IRC client for the ceremony! It was truly an odd yet awesome event.