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icey games · « **Reply #20 on:** 11 Mar 2012, 18:06 »

No prob grim.

Intended for Khris

Khris · « **Reply #21 on:** 11 Mar 2012, 19:30 »

It's only natural that you follow your very first instinct: backlash.

What you should do instead though is turn on your brain for a few seconds and try to figure out WHY I'd react like that.
You have constantly strained everyone's patience here. For months on end, people tried to get you to see why what you think is OK is in fact not. No dice.

Regardless of the other stupid shit you're doing in these forums, posting broken code is obviously not helping. Can we agree on that?
Can we also agree that you've posted broken code before and were told not to?

Last but not least, if somebody keeps doing dumb things, even after repeatedly being told to stop it, at what point is it justified for others to ditch courtesy? You are WAY past that point by now.

Do you actually think I give a fuck about what you appreciate? Is this what a serial killer is supposed to tell the cops? "I don't appreciate being put in jail?"
Please, pull your head out of your ass.

Dualnames · « **Reply #22 on:** 11 Mar 2012, 19:44 »

Alright, I've read this topic in its entirety. This is becoming like a gen-gen topic too fast, so congrats on somewhat achieving that, icey. Everyone after a post is just focusing of making fun of you, instead of helping grimreapyou.

Posting half-assed code that doesn't work is okay, and it happened even to the best of us (Khris included (once though)). Continuously doing that, is however wrong. Wanting to help and actually helping are two separate things. Even coming with the best intentions here, doesn't make up for the situation you caused. I mean, I want to be a doctor, but I don't even know the basics.

Worst part is that half of the posts here (including mine) have no use to whoever will come here in the future expecting for some help.

"I'm not show what inside the brackets cause I don't wan't everyone to know how my leveling system works."

You typed this before a code that has absolutely no chance of working in any of the parallel universes, and expect everyone to thank you. It baffles me really.

Construed · « **Reply #23 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 00:55 »

Alright, I got it working somewhat like this:
[code]
int xpnext=14;
// Insert this code when you award xp
expierance+=15; // award the xp
if(expierance > xpnext){
// Insert your stat changes here.
player_maxhealth += 1;
player_maxmana += 1;
player_maxstamina += 1;
strength += 1;
level++;
xpnext = (5*(level*level))+10; // sets the next xp requirement based on the current level.
// lvl 1:15, lvl2: 30, lvl3: 55, lvl4 90, etc. levels become progressively harder to gain.
if (expierance > xpnext){ expierance = xpnext-1; } // not required, but this will prevent double levels.
}
[/code]
But I'm guessing I did something wrong here, because it just levels after every fight and the amount of exp required is not increased.. $:-\$

suicidal pencil · « **Reply #24 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 01:14 »

I've been avoiding looking at this topic because I'm helping Grim with this somewhere else, but now that I've read it I'm giggling like an idiot and face-palming at the same time. $:-\$

Grim, buddy, I think the AGS forums need a break from the technical aspects of your QFG multiplayer remake. I've already told you I'm willing to help with the code in what ways I can. The next time you post about it, it should be about how awesome the latest build is looking

Khris is a helpful guy, but I've got the feeling his patience is running just a bit too thin, dealing with some of the delinquents romping around the forum.

Icey, my sentiments for your code have already been quite eloquently expressed:

Quote from: Khris

Are you serious? What the hell?

edit: Dammit Grim, you ninja'd me!

Construed · « **Reply #25 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 01:23 »

LOL, Yea...
I think it would be best to break from my blatant postings of stupidity, However i need to get this done ASAP, It's been holding me up over a week and i have barely touched the game because I'm ocd and cannot continue other aspects till this is complete.
I think it be best proceeding with some of victors code, seems swell however I'm going to need your help learning how some of it is implemented
Hit me up on the other forum homie or in the chat

Iceboty V7000a · « **Reply #26 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 01:26 »

Alright. Enough chit chats already, or else I may decide to break this thread up and remove the offtopic posts.

suicidal pencil · « **Reply #27 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 01:38 »

Quote from: Iceboty V7000a on 12 Mar 2012, 01:26

Alright. Enough chit chats already, or else I may decide to break this thread up and remove the offtopic posts.

Absolutely. In the attempt to drag this back on topic:

Lets talk experience and the player, in the simplest form we can.

you will need two variables, one that represents the required amount of xp that the player needs to level up (hereby known as 'X'), and the actual amount of xp the player has ('Y'). Whenever X equals or is greater than Y, X increases, and the player's level increments by '1'.

In code, that's [code]if(Y >= X) Level_Up();[/code] where the function 'Level_Up' increases X, and modifies the player's stats accordingly.
So now, the player only levels up when their accrued xp is high enough, instead of being leveled up every time xp is given.

So when the fight concludes and the player is victorious, somewhere in the code would be:[code].
.
.
Y += Monster_Experience;
if(Y >= X) Level_Up;
[/code]

so now how about X incrementing geometrically?

A third variable needs to be involved. This variable can either be a constant or increase along side X. I'm going to call this variable A. Every time the player levels up, X will equal X * A

Here's my example:
Let A equal '1.5'. A is a constant, so it never changes. The player's level is '1', and X equals 100.

Total XP required at level:[code]
1) 100
2) 150
3) 225
4) 337.5
5) 506.25
6) 759.375
7) 1139.0625
8) 1708.59375
9) 2562.89063
10) 3844.33595[/code]

This also represents the difficulty curve nicely: The closer A is to '1', the slower the rise in the difficulty of the game. The higher A is, the higher the difficulty is (because you aren't leveling up and increasing your stats as often)

Now lets include 4 stats for the player that are affected by xp: Health, Mana, Constitution, and Wisdom.

So lets assume that:
Health = Constitution * 5
Mana = Wisdom * 10;

How do you know when to increase Wisdom and Constitution? It's simple if they increase every level, but what if you want Constitution to increase every second level (3, 5, 7, 9) and Wisdom to increase every third level (4, 7, 10, 13)? Use a counter!

Lets have a new variable, called B. This variable starts as '0', and increments by '1' every time the player levels. Once it hits '3', it resets to '0'. Now lets define the 'Level_Up()' function with this new variable and what we defined above:[code]function Level_Up()
{
  Player_Level++;
  X *= A;
  B++;
  if(B == 2) Player_Constitution++;
  else if(B == 3)
  {
   B = 0;
   Player_Wisdom++;
  }
  Player_Health = Player_Constitution * 5;
  Player_Mana = Player_Wisdom * 5;
}[/code]

These are the basics, and pretty much everything else is based off this.

Construed · « **Reply #28 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 09:19 »

Ok, this is what I've come up with from all of this however i keep getting parser error at : Required_XP .....

int expierance = 0; ///is a global var int
int Required_XP = 15; ///is a global var int
Increase_Factor = 2.0 ///is a global var float

[code]
else if (monsterz<=0) {
int p=player.PreviousRoom;
player.ChangeRoom(p, 160, 120);
goblin.ChangeRoom(p, 160, 120);
player.PlaceOnWalkableArea();
expierance += 15;

if(expierance >= Required_XP){
level++;

player_maxhealth += 1;
player_maxmana += 1;
player_maxstamina += 1;
strength += 1;
Display ("You have reached level %d And now have, %d strength, %d health, %d mana, %d stamina, %d gold",level, strength, player_maxhealth, player_maxmana,player_maxstamina, goldshow );
Required_XP *= Increase_Factor;
[/code]

Can anyone tell me why I'm getting this error, is it because 1 is an int and the other is a float in : Required_XP *= Increase_Factor;

Scavenger · « **Reply #29 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 10:12 »

Quote from: GrimReapYou on 12 Mar 2012, 09:19

Ok, this is what I've come up with from all of this however i keep getting parser error at : Required_XP .....

int expierance = 0; ///is a global var int
int Required_XP = 15; ///is a global var int
Increase_Factor = 2.0 ///is a global var float

Is there any reason why you're using a float for what is effectively integer multiplication? It seems needlessly complicated for something that could be just *2 or << 1.

In order to do float math with an Int, you need to convert it to a float with the IntToFloat and FloatToInt functions. The reason why it hasn't got to the type error is because, I think, you need to express the function as:
[code]
Required_XP = Required_XP * Increase_Factor;
[/code]

I don't think AGS HAS *= as one of it's thingies, only += and -=.

Construed · « **Reply #30 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 10:35 »

Oh okay, I was thinking perhaps i could use an int value instead too.
mucho gracias

Construed · « **Reply #31 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 10:49 »

Switched it over to an int and its working great, Thanks bud

PS.
This was the end code if anyone is curious:
[code]
// room script file
// room script file

function room_AfterFadeIn()
{
monsterui.Visible=true;
player.PlaceOnWalkableArea();
object[1].SetView(56);
object[1].Animate(0, 3, eOnce, eBlock);
goblin.FollowCharacter(null);
object[1].SetView(56);
object[1].Animate(0, 3, eOnce, eBlock);
}

function room_RepExec()
{

if ((player.View==42)||(player.View==16)) {
player.ChangeView(85);
object[0].SetView(82);
}
else if ((player.View==17)||(player.View==59)) {
player.ChangeView(87);
object[0].SetView(84);
}
else if ((player.View==18)||(player.View==58)) {
player.ChangeView(86);
object[0].SetView(83);
}

if (IsKeyPressed(eKeyUpArrow) == 1){

object[0].Animate(0, 3, eOnce, eBlock);
object[0].Animate(1, 3, eOnce, eBlock);

int dmg = Random(5);
monsterz -= dmg + 1;

object[1].SetView(56);
object[1].Animate(0, 25, eOnce, eBlock);

if (dmg==0) health-=0;
health -= dmg + 1;
}

else if (monsterz<=0) {
int p=player.PreviousRoom;
player.ChangeRoom(p, 160, 120);
goblin.ChangeRoom(p, 160, 120);
player.PlaceOnWalkableArea();
expierance += 15;

if(expierance >= Required_XP){
level++;

player_maxhealth += 1;
player_maxmana += 1;
player_maxstamina += 1;
strength += 1;
Display ("You have reached level %d And now have, %d strength, %d health, %d mana, %d stamina, %d gold",level, strength, player_maxhealth, player_maxmana,player_maxstamina, goldshow );
Required_XP = Required_XP * Increase_Factor;

int win=Random(2);

if (monsterz <= 0){

if (win==0) goldshow += 20;

else if (win==1) goldshow += 10;

else goldshow += 5;

}
}
}
}

function room_Load()
{
if ((player.View==42)||(player.View==16)) {
player.ChangeView(85);
object[0].SetView(82);
}
else if ((player.View==17)||(player.View==59)) {
player.ChangeView(87);
object[0].SetView(84);
}
else if ((player.View==18)||(player.View==58)) {
player.ChangeView(86);
object[0].SetView(83);
}

}

function room_Leave()
{

Display("You have triumphed over your enemy!");
if (player.View==85){
player.ChangeView(16);
CafeDo(String.Format("speed is %d %d", 5, 5));
player.SetWalkSpeed(5, 5);
}
else if (player.View==86) {
player.ChangeView(18);
CafeDo(String.Format("speed is %d %d", 5, 5));
player.SetWalkSpeed(5, 5);
}
else if (player.View==87) {
player.ChangeView(17);
CafeDo(String.Format("speed is %d %d", 5, 5));
player.SetWalkSpeed(5, 5);
}
monsterui.Visible=false;
goblin.ChangeView(89);
}
[/code]

Khris · « **Reply #32 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 12:23 »

If you actually want to double the required XP each time, 2 instead of 2.0 is fine.
But I think suicidal pencil chose 1.5 for a reason, namely to not make too big jumps. With a factor of 2, the XP the player has to gain to reach level X is all(!) the XP he had to gain to reach the level before that and then some, which might be a bit much.
Example: 2: 100, 3: 200, 4: 400: 5: 800, 6: 1600
Total XP necessary to reach lvl 5: 1500.
XP necessary on top of that(!) to reach lvl 6: 1600

Now there's no need for a global variable here since it never changes.
Thus the line should look like this:

[code] Required_XP = (Required_XP * 3) / 2; // factor 1.5[/code]

Construed · « **Reply #33 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 16:41 »

I tried using it, just can't seem to get it working right.
I can see its a solid piece of code.I surely need the 1.5 instead of 2, that jump is lame.
Thanks for it, I'll continue to tinker with it as my knowledge advances.

Khris · « **Reply #34 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 18:11 »

My line is supposed to replace this line in your code:

[code] Required_XP = Required_XP * Increase_Factor;[/code]

No further adjustments are necessary.

Construed · « **Reply #35 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 21:04 »

For some reason its giving me a level every fight for the first 5 fights,
then it takes 2 fights for level 6 and 3 fights for level 7.
I dont know what the issue is, probably on my end

Khris · « **Reply #36 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 21:38 »

Well, what's the initial value of Required_XP? Sounds like it is too low.

You are awarding 15 XP per fight, so it should start out as 40 or something, I guess.
That way, it takes three fights to reach 45 XP / lvl 2, then four fights to reach the new requirement of 60 XP.

Victor6 · « **Reply #37 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 21:42 »

EDIT: Khris beat me to it;-

XP for each level (roughly, since it'll be converted to an int):
level 2 : 15
level 3 : 15*1.5 = 22.5
level 4 : 22.5*1.5 = 33.75
level 5 : 33.75*1.5 = 50.65
level 6 : 50.65*1.5 = 75.9

XP after each fight
fight1 : 15 (requires 15 for level 2)
fight2 : 30 (requires 22.5 for level 3)
fight3 : 45 (requires 33.75 for level 4)
fight4 : 60 (requires 50.65 for level 5)
fight5 : 75 (requires 75.9 for level 6 - So no level gain.)

suicidal pencil · « **Reply #38 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 21:45 »

Well, after every level-up you could reset the player's accrued experience back down to zero when he levels up.

reusing my example:

Without reseting accrued experience:[code]1) 100 (100xp required)
2) 150 (50xp required)
3) 225 (75xp required)
4) 337.5 (112.5xp required)
5) 506.25 (168.75xp required)
.
.
.[/code]

Now reseting experience to zero after every level:[code]1) 100 (100xp required)
2) 150 (150xp required)
3) 225 (225xp required)
.
.
.[/code]

So in your code:[code]if(expierance >= Required_XP){
level++;
expierance = 0; //<----just add this one line
.
.
.[/code]

edit: god damn, you guys beat me :<

Construed · « **Reply #39 on:** 12 Mar 2012, 21:45 »

Damn you guys are sick with the math.
Greatly appreciated