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Frito Master · « **Reply #100 on:** 19 Jul 2012, 03:07 »

I think or right. (See I've been drawing forever and I'm still learning.)

Here you you go frank.

The only difference between your drawing is position and shape of stuff and the fact in my render theres no ceiling or side wall so the light would bounce around more making the room brighter.(I think?)

Also like snarky said since your doing hard shading

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Just keep it simple: one single light source, one single depth of shadow, none of this half-shadow stuff.

Edit: Sidenote has anyone else messed with cycles in blender? Its so badass, I love having the ability to have the viewport be a real time render.

FrankT · « **Reply #101 on:** 19 Jul 2012, 12:31 »

I give up.

I'll have to get someone else to do the lighting.

Frito Master · « **Reply #102 on:** 19 Jul 2012, 13:04 »

Just copy the shadows from the render I did.

FrankT · « **Reply #103 on:** 20 Jul 2012, 09:11 »

Pointless; I'll just mess it up again!

Frito Master · « **Reply #104 on:** 20 Jul 2012, 13:17 »

Thats how you learn my friend and I've done it thousands of times and thats just with drawing.

FrankT · « **Reply #105 on:** 21 Jul 2012, 13:17 »

Well... alright, I'll have another look at it, but it's going to be a bit tricky....

Frito Master · « **Reply #106 on:** 21 Jul 2012, 13:34 »

Good you keep that up and you'll get much better at it.

Compare it to the picture.

FrankT · « **Reply #107 on:** 21 Jul 2012, 13:42 »

Like this?

Frito Master · « **Reply #108 on:** 21 Jul 2012, 14:07 »

CaptainD · « **Reply #109 on:** 21 Jul 2012, 14:11 »

Well I'm not much of an expert on these things, but the shadows on that do look far more consistent as coming from a single light source. The only think that looks a bit wrong to me is that seemingly small light source lighting all the way down the corridor.

FrankT · « **Reply #110 on:** 21 Jul 2012, 16:55 »

These lightbulbs are especially bright....!

Tramponline · « **Reply #111 on:** 22 Jul 2012, 13:23 »

All right, since I didn't want you to give up, I tried myself on some 'solidary shadow creation suffering'.

As the supposedly "real" shadows (according to sketchup + lightup - similar to Frito's rendering) turned out to
look rather aweful in this isometric view (as in "not real"), I went with a combination of real and stylized ones
(...after "some" try-outs). (Apparently I had too much free time this weekend

)

Unfortunately I got rather carried away, overdid it somewhat and
in the course, ended up butchering your scene kind of:

As Snarky and Frito already mentioned, simple and stylized shadows are easier to do and fit nicer into
the scence (...it reminds me a bit of 'Little Big Adventure', they had 'stylized' shadows under their sprites as well)

It really doesn't matter how bright the light bulb is, and how far the light would travel in "reality", it's
really more important that it creates a coherent mood in your scene.

Playing around with your scene, I also realized that the wing chair is rather too big for those couches. Since the wing chair
looks good in this size, I'd recommend enlarging those couches & the table somewhat.

Also, in order to make those crisp & hard shadows not stand out so much, I'd recommend putting highlights where the light hits
the furnitures. Tried this with the large couch in a really quick and messy way (- not a very good example!).
If you would brighten the left side of the wing chair (from our point of view) for example, it would make the wing chairs shadow
instantly more pleasing to the eye

Other than that, lovely scene!

Snarky · « **Reply #112 on:** 22 Jul 2012, 14:01 »

Quote from: Frito Master on 21 Jul 2012, 14:07

Yes, this is good. Well done!

Frito Master · « **Reply #113 on:** 22 Jul 2012, 15:27 »

Quote from: Tramponline on 22 Jul 2012, 13:23

Unfortunately I got rather carried away, overdid it somewhat and
in the course, ended up butchering your scene kind of:

As Snarky and Frito already mentioned, simple and stylized shadows are easier to do and fit nicer into
the scence (...it reminds me a bit of 'Little Big Adventure', they had 'stylized' shadows under their sprites as well)

I used blender

and it was more or less to just show the shadows. Also I figured it'd be easier for him to not have to figure out the table leg shadows too.
Nice job though if I was him I'd use yours.

FrankT · « **Reply #114 on:** 22 Jul 2012, 19:19 »

Correct! After I just enlarge those sofas and table, and clean up the shadows a bit, it should be ready to go.

Frito Master · « **Reply #115 on:** 22 Jul 2012, 19:57 »

Just got to keep it up and stick with it!

FrankT · « **Reply #116 on:** 24 Jul 2012, 22:14 »

We got there.

Cyrus · « **Reply #117 on:** 26 Jul 2012, 19:49 »

I do not quite understand about this game... Are you aiming for classic Hit the Road look or something else?

FrankT · « **Reply #118 on:** 27 Jul 2012, 10:54 »

It's hard to say. A bit of both, I think.

Eric · « **Reply #119 on:** 27 Jul 2012, 18:52 »

I remember reading your pitch for the game somewhere (at least I hope it was yours), where a fairly normal protagonist goes on a search for the retired and missing Sam n' Max. It struck me that there would be some interesting juxtapositions of your real cop and the world of the cartoon detectives, sort of like those found in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. It had intriguing potential to me then and continues to do so as I watch you work through your art process.