Alternative Knowledge

[Mandle]

Always wondered if I'm hypnotic susceptible. Any way to figure that out?

I'm sure there are many Youtube videos you can listen to of a therapist going through the steps to put you under. Get in a comfortable sitting position, put on your headphones, close your eyes, and listen.

And see what happens... (you might want to avoid the ones that plant post-hypnotic suggestions about becoming a chicken 10 minutes later)

Of course, some of the steps cannot be performed without live feedback: Such as regular checking by the therapist to gauge what stage of hypnosis the subject is currently in: lifting the subject's arm and dropping it is an easy example...with the spoken suggestion that the feeling of the arm dropping will only deepen the subject's state...if the arm drops limply like it would with an unconcious person then the state is quite a deep level... And then the therapist knows they can move on to the next pattern of suggestions and that they will be effective... And so on down the chain into deeper and deeper states...

Without this important live feedback, which allows the therapist to know to repeat the suggestions for that next level until it is achieved, listening to a recording might not work... But, it might...

Do you dare try? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

EDIT: It's best if the therapist is speaking in your first language, or a second language that you are so used to hearing/speaking that it is close to the level of your first language. Because by the time you are at a very deep state your skills at figuring out stuff analytically will be impared. The language must be so familiar to you that it just flows naturally into your brain and is instantly understood.

[Jack]

"Specific technique": Not really that specific. But yes, I did use one specific name for it. Call it what you will: There are many synonyms for "hypnotic suggestion", but they all pretty much boil down to the same:

So you didn't mean to suggest that all the compelling conspiracy theory videos you watched used a monotonous voice throughout, over rhythmic music, while repeating points over and over? These are the three specific tools I referred to which, used together, make up a specific technique.

I don't mean to suggest that this technique is esoteric or occult. It's the implication of this specific technique, a particular subset of hypnotic suggestion, being near-universally applied which I find interesting. Further, are there other interests beside conspiracy videos which you have seen using such a form of hypnotic suggestion, in other words meeting at least as many characterisations? For instance, the repetition used with other tools in cults that someone mentioned meets only one characterisation and does not fall under this specific technique.

The ones that aren't at least compelling enough to be entertaining I would turn off after about 30 seconds and retain no memory of them.

Of this I will send a note to the director of my propaganda and mental disruption department: More circenses required to achieve optimal control and profit.

[Mandle]

It's the implication of this specific technique, a particular subset of hypnotic suggestion, being near-universally applied which I find interesting. Further, are there other interests beside conspiracy videos which you have seen using such a form of hypnotic suggestion, in other words meeting at least as many characterisations? For instance, the repetition used with other tools in cults that someone mentioned meets only one characterisation and does not fall under this specific technique.

I'm not exactly sure why I'm being questioned about other things that you might have issues with...

My posts were in regard to my own personal experience with conspiracy theory videos, which I used to watch with great interest, until I started to notice a pattern... And this parody of the BTTF/911 conspiracy video actually clarified in my thoughts what that pattern was... And then I realized that I already had studied and experienced a similar pattern before: Hypnosis...

That's about all I was posting to say... I'm not sure where you are trying to take it further to, but I don't think I'm going to be jumping on that particular boat unless you have a very intriguing thing to say next...

Basically: I think we need a bigger boat.

[Cassiebsg]

* Cassiebsg gives Mandle a ship.

[Jack]

The idea was that you, as a licensed hypnotist, recognised these tools being used, and I was wondering whether you've seen other concerns using them in at least such a comprehensive manner (meaning, having at least the monotonous voice, rhythmic music and repetition).

[Jack]

So just BSing, eh?

EDIT: I want to clarify that I wasn't trying to put you on the spot, or make you look stupid, or whatever else you got so cagey about. My intention was to find out, since you know more about this than most of us, whether you have witnessed any other movements or concerns using this technique. This was predicated on the assumption that what you said is true.

I also wanted to clarify whether the below text did in fact mean that the specific technique (being the technique having at least the three stated characteristics) was in fact applied to all the videos you were referring to, since you seem to be shying away from that implication now.

I found it really interesting how the narrator speaks in a monotonic voice the entire time, while the rhythmic music plays, and repeats simple (but ridiculous) suggestions over and over and OVER AND OVER "The pines are the towers...The towers are the pines...The pines are the towers"

As a licensed hypnotherapist I can recognize these exact methods for implanting suggestions in a patient, and I can also spot the same methods being used in almost every other conspiracy video I have seen, including Dr. Judy Wood's:

This I wanted to know for my own purposes and further research. Because what you said, if true, is damned interesting. All videos of a specific type using the exact same technique is a distinct pattern, unless you're one of those people wondering where the forest is while standing in the midst of 100,000 trees.

[Mandle]

No...it's not BS, and I respect your reasons for asking... But at the current time I'm waaaaaay too busy to write a long discussion...

I'll think about your questions until next weekend when my Halloween hell is over, and then post then...

Cheers!

[Jack]

Soylent (food)

As with the Bars, Soylent diehards have been posting their Powder 1.6 experiences online, with reports of stomach acid, cramps, and “terrible shits.”

Reddit user zhandragon, who says their diet is 90 to 100 percent Soylent 1.6 for the last two weeks, reported multiple, pus-filled blisters or abscesses.

Soylent Stops Selling Powder While It Investigates Customer Sickness Complaints

Further studies conducted by a man typing with one hand have revealed that some people mistake distopian fiction for a manual.

[Danvzare]

It's made from PEOPLE!!!

Which would explain all the bad experiences. I mean come on, every transmittable disease humans can get, is obviously transmittable to other humans. You'd have to be either an idiot or really desperate to resort to eating humans.
Rats are probably safer to eat than us.

In all seriousness though, what kind of idiot names their food Soylent?
Actually, scratch that, what kind of idiot names their food Soylent and not Soylent Green?

[Jack]

I did not know this. Maybe you didn't either.

(this concerns the pre-election protests/riots)

Who Is Behind The Riots? Charlotte Police Says 70% Of Arrested Protesters Had Out Of State IDs

George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action

These people have legitimate grievances, but at the same time, the mainstream media and other liberal extremists have been exploiting the situation and fuelling division for their own ends.

That would be this guy:

George Soros: The United States Must Stop Resisting The Orderly Decline Of The Dollar, The Coming Global Currency And The New World Order

[Jack]

Stay Alert, America: The Worst Is Yet to Come

Yeah, the TPP is gone for now. Recent history tells us it will probably return with a different name. In that case it will be handy not being called a racist or a sexist for tearing down trump's policies.

The funny thing about this is that it was the typical hardcore hillary supporter who used to argue against me for greater government power and total trustworthyness. Didn't matter what it was: More mass surveillance, loss of individual freedoms and even a completely centralised world government. The bigger and more powerful daddy is the better he can protect you, right? Well, daddy's home now. If trump turns out to be who they think he is, they will learn the hard way why these things are a moronic idea.

If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear, right?

[Jack]

Twittergate is happening right now. 1000s of twitter Pedophile accounts discovered

BREAKING: Hundreds of child porn accounts exposed on twitter

[Danvzare]

Are you saying people were naive enough to think pedophiles didn't use Twitter?

[Retro Wolf]

@Danvzare: I think it's normal to think that with a system as public as Twitter, people wouldn't brazenly share child pornography.

[selmiak]

I'm not buying this whole pizzagate pedophile code thing in the clinton email leaks for ordering pizza, this seems more like a prank by the hacker called 4chan to piss off hillary even more after trump won and do something with all these email leaks. And when the FBI really buys it and starts investigating lulz were had.
Pedophiles probably use twitter like everyone else does. People are easily triggered by the words child pronography and will start shitstorms just by reading about it without checking if it's actually true and copy and paste and repost all these 'investigations' they find online thus giving more investigators more sources online. But using twitter to post childpornography seems a bit far fetched, though I don't want to see that and won't click on any twitterlinks to check if it's true. So this is more of a case for Mr. Schroedingers and if people believe it or not.

[Danvzare]

@Danvzare: I think it's normal to think that with a system as public as Twitter, people wouldn't brazenly share child pornography.

Never underestimate how stupid (or depraved) people can be. Especially here on the internet.

[Jack]

I probably should have included some quotes from the anon article, but this is freaky as hell. To sum it up, anonymous started exposing and reporting public pedo accounts on twitter, which contain non-private images, requiring no sign in to view. After a while twitter responded by disabling anon's reporting account @0hour, while leaving some of the reported pedo accounts active. I've seen some people expressing their wishful thinking that it's simply 4chan trolling the internet, but unless you want to believe that anon is doing that now, that theory doesn't float. It's going on 24 hours now and the msm refuse to touch this. I've seen some non-major outlets reporting on it as if twitter has been shutting down pedo accounts they found, leaving out the twittergate tag and the fact that they opted instead to shoot the messenger.

This is the most reputable site I've seen covering what actually happened:

Twitter Suspends User For Reporting Pedophilia Rings; #TwitterGate Erupts

This should not be confused with pizzagate, but I'll bet that's how anon found these accounts to begin with.

On the subject of pizzagate, there's a rather straight-faced breakdown here. It's another case as in 9/11 of strongly suggestive loose ends and puzzle pieces that beg an official investigation that will never happen:

On The Legitimacy Of This Investigation (with an important message to fellow journalists I know are lurking on this sub) [censored]

On The Legitimacy Of This Investigation (with an important message to fellow journalists I know are lurking on this sub) [mirror]

[Jack]

/r/pizzagate has been shut down by reddit claiming personal information was posted. Here's the ex-mod calling BS on that. Meanwhile subs like /r/pedofriends happily continue to operate on reddit.

These stories came out today:

What Is 'Pizzagate' and 'Twittergate' And Why Is Kanye West Involved?

Pizzagate: British Version Exposed By Australia's '60 Minutes' [Opinion]

NY Times posted a "fact check" piece without any fact checking, seemingly based on the accused saying "nah-uh": Fake News Onslaught Targets Pizzeria as Nest of Child-Trafficking

The Washington Times reports accurately: D.C. power-player tied to Podesta blasts ‘insane' Reddit sleuthing on sex-trafficking ring

[Jack]

[harsh language warning]

Reddit disappears up its own asshole

Hey Everyone,

Yep. I messed with the “fuck u/spez” comments, replacing "spez" with r/the_donald mods for about an hour. It's been a long week here trying to unwind the r/pizzagate stuff. As much as we try to maintain a good relationship with you all, it does get old getting called a pedophile constantly. As the CEO, I shouldn't play such games, and it's all fixed now. Our community team is pretty pissed at me, so I most assuredly won't do this again.

For the sake of some petty revenge, the CEO of Reddit has destroyed not only his own credibility but the entire credibility and trustworthiness of his website.

What it means is that every time any one is ever accused of saying or doing something on Reddit, we can resonably claim that our post was edited by the admins to make us look bad.

The genie is out of the bottle, Reddit will literally never be the same again. /u/spez has in one fell swoop BTFOd his own website, for eternity.

You understand the gravity of the massive fireball you just put out there, correct? You have lost the trust of (at least) thousands of users of this website. You have literally, in that petty act, destroyed the credibility of Reddit. Any article that quotes a user post, uncredible. For all people know here, we are all now in danger of the admins throwing child porn into one of our histories, and endangering us.

This is just the beginning. Do not underestimate twittergate/pizzagate. It's bigger than 9/11.

[Stupot]

And if you multiply "pepperoni" by "Madeleine McCann" you get 4815162342.

Seriously though. Maybe some of the high-ups are into kids, and if the Federal Bureau of Reddit can find them, great. But it has nothing to do with pizza.