The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread

Started by Kumpel, Mon 13/03/2017 23:07:23

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Snarky

I took that to mean that it was partially correct (as we have found) but that some part was wrong. Otherwise it would have to go in the YES pile, even if not accepted as a complete solution, surely?

Gurok

#601
Case #19 - A man is found dead, slumped in the recliner of a hotel room. There are chocolates on his lap, but he wasn't poisoned. What happened?

YES
is there any visible wounds?
is there any other signs that someone else was in the room?
Are the chocolates actually relevant to how he died?
Was he murdered?
Was it Valentine's Day?
Did his wife killed him?
Did he had a lover?
Did he brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did his wife kill him because she found out he was cheating on her?
Did he buy chocolates both for his wife and for his lover?
Did the wife find out about the affair because of the chocolates?
Did his wife like chocolates?
Could her wife eat chocolates?
Did his wife see the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.) for his lover?


NO
die of diabetic shock?
Did he receive the chocolates as some kind of warning message?
Is the mafia involved in this story?
Did he eat any of the chocolates?
Was it Easter?
Was it the dead man's birthday?
Was his wife disguised as someone else when he tried to give her the chocolates?
Was his wife trying to kill someone but didn't realise who he was?
Was the man himself disguised in any way?
Does his wife do something which unintentionally results in his death?
The wife asked who they were for he told her my girlfriend?
Did he get the chocolates and/or valentine cards mixed up so that the wife read the one meant for his lover, got angry and killed him? - Too many variables!
Did his wife brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did the man intend to kill someone?
Does the identity of the lover, or some particular characteristic (e.g. it was a man) matter?
Does the way she killed him matter to the story? - Everything matters, but it's fairly straightforward
Did he switch the boxes by mistake? (as in: gave the ones meant for his wife to his lover, and gave her wife the ones meant to his lover) - No switching
Was there anything special/distinctive about the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.)?
Did his wife know the lover? (I intended this to be covered by the "does identity matter?" â€" but I guess it could be interpreted otherwise)


AMBIGUOUS
Did his wife kill him when he tried to give her the chocolates? - Yes and no. I'll need more specific questions to clarify.
Were the chocolates meant for his wife? - Yes and no. Perhaps ask more about the chocolates.
Did he buy the chocolates for someone else? - Yes and no.


IRRELEVANT
Did the chocolates have writing on them?
Did the chocolates have symbols on them?


Mandle:

Solution: The man bought two seperate but identical boxes of chocolates for his wife, and his lover for Valentine's Day. He put a letter inside both boxes, but he got the boxes mixed up. The wife read the note meant for his lover and thus found out about her husband's affair. So she killed him.

This is more convoluted than what took place.

Snarky:

Mandle, that's already been suggested and put in the NO pile.

I took that to mean that it was partially correct (as we have found) but that some part was wrong. Otherwise it would have to go in the YES pile, even if not accepted as a complete solution, surely?

I think I meant to say it was too convoluted as well as having the and/or. It's firmly in the no pile.
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Snarky

So do you just want "his wife found the chocolates he'd bought for someone else, realized he was having an affair, and killed him"?

Had he given the chocolates to his lover yet?
Were the two boxes different?

Gurok

Case #19 - A man is found dead, slumped in the recliner of a hotel room. There are chocolates on his lap, but he wasn't poisoned. What happened?

YES
is there any visible wounds?
is there any other signs that someone else was in the room?
Are the chocolates actually relevant to how he died?
Was he murdered?
Was it Valentine's Day?
Did his wife killed him?
Did he had a lover?
Did he brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did his wife kill him because she found out he was cheating on her?
Did he buy chocolates both for his wife and for his lover?
Did the wife find out about the affair because of the chocolates?
Did his wife like chocolates?
Could her wife eat chocolates?
Did his wife see the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.) for his lover?
His wife found the chocolates he'd bought for someone else, realized he was having an affair, and killed him?


NO
die of diabetic shock?
Did he receive the chocolates as some kind of warning message?
Is the mafia involved in this story?
Did he eat any of the chocolates?
Was it Easter?
Was it the dead man's birthday?
Was his wife disguised as someone else when he tried to give her the chocolates?
Was his wife trying to kill someone but didn't realise who he was?
Was the man himself disguised in any way?
Does his wife do something which unintentionally results in his death?
The wife asked who they were for he told her my girlfriend?
Did he get the chocolates and/or valentine cards mixed up so that the wife read the one meant for his lover, got angry and killed him? - Too many variables!
Did his wife brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did the man intend to kill someone?
Does the identity of the lover, or some particular characteristic (e.g. it was a man) matter?
Does the way she killed him matter to the story? - Everything matters, but it's fairly straightforward
Did he switch the boxes by mistake? (as in: gave the ones meant for his wife to his lover, and gave her wife the ones meant to his lover) - No switching
Was there anything special/distinctive about the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.)?
Did his wife know the lover? (I intended this to be covered by the "does identity matter?" â€" but I guess it could be interpreted otherwise)
Had he given the chocolates to his lover yet?
Were the two boxes different?


AMBIGUOUS
Did his wife kill him when he tried to give her the chocolates? - Yes and no. I'll need more specific questions to clarify.
Were the chocolates meant for his wife? - Yes and no. Perhaps ask more about the chocolates.
Did he buy the chocolates for someone else? - Yes and no.


IRRELEVANT
Did the chocolates have writing on them?
Did the chocolates have symbols on them?


I think the chocolates are pretty much solved now. Why was he in the hotel?
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Cassiebsg

Was he meeting his lover at the Hotel?
Did her wife showed up at the Hotel?
Did her wife followed him?
There are those who believe that life here began out there...

Mandle

Was he supposed to meet his lover at the hotel?
Was he on the run from someone?
Did he own the hotel?

Gurok

Case #19 - A man is found dead, slumped in the recliner of a hotel room. There are chocolates on his lap, but he wasn't poisoned. What happened?

YES
is there any visible wounds?
is there any other signs that someone else was in the room?
Are the chocolates actually relevant to how he died?
Was he murdered?
Was it Valentine's Day?
Did his wife killed him?
Did he had a lover?
Did he brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did his wife kill him because she found out he was cheating on her?
Did he buy chocolates both for his wife and for his lover?
Did the wife find out about the affair because of the chocolates?
Did his wife like chocolates?
Could her wife eat chocolates?
Did his wife see the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.) for his lover?
His wife found the chocolates he'd bought for someone else, realized he was having an affair, and killed him?
Was he meeting his lover at the Hotel?
Did her wife showed up at the Hotel?
Was he supposed to meet his lover at the hotel?


NO
die of diabetic shock?
Did he receive the chocolates as some kind of warning message?
Is the mafia involved in this story?
Did he eat any of the chocolates?
Was it Easter?
Was it the dead man's birthday?
Was his wife disguised as someone else when he tried to give her the chocolates?
Was his wife trying to kill someone but didn't realise who he was?
Was the man himself disguised in any way?
Does his wife do something which unintentionally results in his death?
The wife asked who they were for he told her my girlfriend?
Did he get the chocolates and/or valentine cards mixed up so that the wife read the one meant for his lover, got angry and killed him? - Too many variables!
Did his wife brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did the man intend to kill someone?
Does the identity of the lover, or some particular characteristic (e.g. it was a man) matter?
Does the way she killed him matter to the story? - Everything matters, but it's fairly straightforward
Did he switch the boxes by mistake? (as in: gave the ones meant for his wife to his lover, and gave her wife the ones meant to his lover) - No switching
Was there anything special/distinctive about the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.)?
Did his wife know the lover? (I intended this to be covered by the "does identity matter?" â€" but I guess it could be interpreted otherwise)
Had he given the chocolates to his lover yet?
Were the two boxes different?
Did her wife followed him?
Was he on the run from someone?
Did he own the hotel?


AMBIGUOUS
Did his wife kill him when he tried to give her the chocolates? - Yes and no. I'll need more specific questions to clarify.
Were the chocolates meant for his wife? - Yes and no. Perhaps ask more about the chocolates.
Did he buy the chocolates for someone else? - Yes and no.


IRRELEVANT
Did the chocolates have writing on them?
Did the chocolates have symbols on them?
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Mandle

So I guess the Valentine's note to the lover said something like "See you at the Lover's Tryst Hotel later tonight!" and that's why the wife knew to show up there and kill the man (and possibly his lover)?

Cassiebsg

Did her wife worked at the Hotel?
Did she worked as delivery girl?
Did he worked at the Hotel?
There are those who believe that life here began out there...

Tabata

So she found two boxes of chocolates and knew that there must exist a second valentine.
If she didn't folow him to the hotel (where he met his lover) she must have been there already.

Did he book two rooms to meet both on valentines day?
Did he book a room in that hotel for himself and his wife because his lover works at this hotel?

NightHawk

Did his lover find the chocolates his wife left for him?

Gurok

Case #19 - A man is found dead, slumped in the recliner of a hotel room. There are chocolates on his lap, but he wasn't poisoned. What happened?

YES
is there any visible wounds?
is there any other signs that someone else was in the room?
Are the chocolates actually relevant to how he died?
Was he murdered?
Was it Valentine's Day?
Did his wife killed him?
Did he had a lover?
Did he brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did his wife kill him because she found out he was cheating on her?
Did he buy chocolates both for his wife and for his lover?
Did the wife find out about the affair because of the chocolates?
Did his wife like chocolates?
Could her wife eat chocolates?
Did his wife see the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.) for his lover?
His wife found the chocolates he'd bought for someone else, realized he was having an affair, and killed him?
Was he meeting his lover at the Hotel?
Did her wife showed up at the Hotel?
Was he supposed to meet his lover at the hotel?
Did he book two rooms to meet both on valentines day?


NO
die of diabetic shock?
Did he receive the chocolates as some kind of warning message?
Is the mafia involved in this story?
Did he eat any of the chocolates?
Was it Easter?
Was it the dead man's birthday?
Was his wife disguised as someone else when he tried to give her the chocolates?
Was his wife trying to kill someone but didn't realise who he was?
Was the man himself disguised in any way?
Does his wife do something which unintentionally results in his death?
The wife asked who they were for he told her my girlfriend?
Did he get the chocolates and/or valentine cards mixed up so that the wife read the one meant for his lover, got angry and killed him? - Too many variables!
Did his wife brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did the man intend to kill someone?
Does the identity of the lover, or some particular characteristic (e.g. it was a man) matter?
Does the way she killed him matter to the story? - Everything matters, but it's fairly straightforward
Did he switch the boxes by mistake? (as in: gave the ones meant for his wife to his lover, and gave her wife the ones meant to his lover) - No switching
Was there anything special/distinctive about the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.)?
Did his wife know the lover? (I intended this to be covered by the "does identity matter?" â€" but I guess it could be interpreted otherwise)
Had he given the chocolates to his lover yet?
Were the two boxes different?
Did her wife followed him?
Was he on the run from someone?
Did he own the hotel?
So I guess the Valentine's note to the lover said something like "See you at the Lover's Tryst Hotel later tonight!" and that's why the wife knew to show up there and kill the man (and possibly his lover)?
Did her wife worked at the Hotel?
Did he worked at the Hotel?
Did he book a room in that hotel for himself and his wife because his lover works at this hotel?
Did his lover find the chocolates his wife left for him?


AMBIGUOUS
Did his wife kill him when he tried to give her the chocolates? - Yes and no. I'll need more specific questions to clarify.
Were the chocolates meant for his wife? - Yes and no. Perhaps ask more about the chocolates.
Did he buy the chocolates for someone else? - Yes and no.


IRRELEVANT
Did the chocolates have writing on them?
Did the chocolates have symbols on them?
Did she worked as delivery girl?


Someone put it all together, please!
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Mandle

Did he get the hotel keys mixed up when he gave them to wife and lover?
Did the wife go to the lover's room and find the lover's chocolates there?
Did the man go to the wrong room by accident?

Gurok

#613
Case #19 - A man is found dead, slumped in the recliner of a hotel room. There are chocolates on his lap, but he wasn't poisoned. What happened?

YES
is there any visible wounds?
is there any other signs that someone else was in the room?
Are the chocolates actually relevant to how he died?
Was he murdered?
Was it Valentine's Day?
Did his wife killed him?
Did he had a lover?
Did he brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did his wife kill him because she found out he was cheating on her?
Did he buy chocolates both for his wife and for his lover?
Did the wife find out about the affair because of the chocolates?
Did his wife like chocolates?
Could her wife eat chocolates?
Did his wife see the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.) for his lover?
His wife found the chocolates he'd bought for someone else, realized he was having an affair, and killed him?
Was he meeting his lover at the Hotel?
Did her wife showed up at the Hotel?
Was he supposed to meet his lover at the hotel?
Did he book two rooms to meet both on valentines day?


NO
die of diabetic shock?
Did he receive the chocolates as some kind of warning message?
Is the mafia involved in this story?
Did he eat any of the chocolates?
Was it Easter?
Was it the dead man's birthday?
Was his wife disguised as someone else when he tried to give her the chocolates?
Was his wife trying to kill someone but didn't realise who he was?
Was the man himself disguised in any way?
Does his wife do something which unintentionally results in his death?
The wife asked who they were for he told her my girlfriend?
Did he get the chocolates and/or valentine cards mixed up so that the wife read the one meant for his lover, got angry and killed him? - Too many variables!
Did his wife brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did the man intend to kill someone?
Does the identity of the lover, or some particular characteristic (e.g. it was a man) matter?
Does the way she killed him matter to the story? - Everything matters, but it's fairly straightforward
Did he switch the boxes by mistake? (as in: gave the ones meant for his wife to his lover, and gave her wife the ones meant to his lover) - No switching
Was there anything special/distinctive about the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.)?
Did his wife know the lover? (I intended this to be covered by the "does identity matter?" â€" but I guess it could be interpreted otherwise)
Had he given the chocolates to his lover yet?
Were the two boxes different?
Did her wife followed him?
Was he on the run from someone?
Did he own the hotel?
So I guess the Valentine's note to the lover said something like "See you at the Lover's Tryst Hotel later tonight!" and that's why the wife knew to show up there and kill the man (and possibly his lover)?
Did her wife worked at the Hotel?
Did he worked at the Hotel?
Did he book a room in that hotel for himself and his wife because his lover works at this hotel?
Did his lover find the chocolates his wife left for him?
Did he get the hotel keys mixed up when he gave them to wife and lover?
Did the wife go to the lover's room and find the lover's chocolates there?
Did the man go to the wrong room by accident? - You could say he left the room for a bit


AMBIGUOUS
Did his wife kill him when he tried to give her the chocolates? - Yes and no. I'll need more specific questions to clarify.
Were the chocolates meant for his wife? - Yes and no. Perhaps ask more about the chocolates.
Did he buy the chocolates for someone else? - Yes and no.


IRRELEVANT
Did the chocolates have writing on them?
Did the chocolates have symbols on them?
Did she worked as delivery girl?


I think you have everything now.
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Mandle

Was the man alternating between his wife's room and lover's room?
Did he bring the lover's chocolates to the wife by mistake?
Did he leave the chocolates in the wife's room by mistake?

Gurok

Case #19 - A man is found dead, slumped in the recliner of a hotel room. There are chocolates on his lap, but he wasn't poisoned. What happened?

YES
is there any visible wounds?
is there any other signs that someone else was in the room?
Are the chocolates actually relevant to how he died?
Was he murdered?
Was it Valentine's Day?
Did his wife killed him?
Did he had a lover?
Did he brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did his wife kill him because she found out he was cheating on her?
Did he buy chocolates both for his wife and for his lover?
Did the wife find out about the affair because of the chocolates?
Did his wife like chocolates?
Could her wife eat chocolates?
Did his wife see the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.) for his lover?
His wife found the chocolates he'd bought for someone else, realized he was having an affair, and killed him?
Was he meeting his lover at the Hotel?
Did her wife showed up at the Hotel?
Was he supposed to meet his lover at the hotel?
Did he book two rooms to meet both on valentines day?
Was the man alternating between his wife's room and lover's room?
Did he leave the chocolates in the wife's room by mistake?


NO
die of diabetic shock?
Did he receive the chocolates as some kind of warning message?
Is the mafia involved in this story?
Did he eat any of the chocolates?
Was it Easter?
Was it the dead man's birthday?
Was his wife disguised as someone else when he tried to give her the chocolates?
Was his wife trying to kill someone but didn't realise who he was?
Was the man himself disguised in any way?
Does his wife do something which unintentionally results in his death?
The wife asked who they were for he told her my girlfriend?
Did he get the chocolates and/or valentine cards mixed up so that the wife read the one meant for his lover, got angry and killed him? - Too many variables!
Did his wife brought (buy) the chocolates?
Did the man intend to kill someone?
Does the identity of the lover, or some particular characteristic (e.g. it was a man) matter?
Does the way she killed him matter to the story? - Everything matters, but it's fairly straightforward
Did he switch the boxes by mistake? (as in: gave the ones meant for his wife to his lover, and gave her wife the ones meant to his lover) - No switching
Was there anything special/distinctive about the chocolates (or the box, card, etc.)?
Did his wife know the lover? (I intended this to be covered by the "does identity matter?" â€" but I guess it could be interpreted otherwise)
Had he given the chocolates to his lover yet?
Were the two boxes different?
Did her wife followed him?
Was he on the run from someone?
Did he own the hotel?
So I guess the Valentine's note to the lover said something like "See you at the Lover's Tryst Hotel later tonight!" and that's why the wife knew to show up there and kill the man (and possibly his lover)?
Did her wife worked at the Hotel?
Did he worked at the Hotel?
Did he book a room in that hotel for himself and his wife because his lover works at this hotel?
Did his lover find the chocolates his wife left for him?
Did he get the hotel keys mixed up when he gave them to wife and lover?
Did the wife go to the lover's room and find the lover's chocolates there?
Did the man go to the wrong room by accident? - You could say he left the room for a bit
Did he bring the lover's chocolates to the wife by mistake?


AMBIGUOUS
Did his wife kill him when he tried to give her the chocolates? - Yes and no. I'll need more specific questions to clarify.
Were the chocolates meant for his wife? - Yes and no. Perhaps ask more about the chocolates.
Did he buy the chocolates for someone else? - Yes and no.


IRRELEVANT
Did the chocolates have writing on them?
Did the chocolates have symbols on them?
Did she worked as delivery girl?

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Mandle

Solution: A man booked two rooms at the same hotel for his wife and his lover on Valentine's Day. He left the chocolates for his lover in his wife's room by mistake. While he was out visiting his lover in her room his wife opened the chocolates and read the note meant for the lover. Then:

Either the wife waited for him to return and killed him when he did....or....

She tracked him down to his lover's room and killed him there...

He fell into the chair, and the wife threw the chocolates onto his corpse in disgust.

Gurok

Quote from: Mandle on Mon 10/04/2017 06:20:54
Solution: A man booked two rooms at the same hotel for his wife and his lover on Valentine's Day. He left the chocolates for his lover in his wife's room by mistake. While he was out visiting his lover in her room his wife opened the chocolates and read the note meant for the lover. Then:

Either the wife waited for him to return and killed him when he did....or....

She tracked him down to his lover's room and killed him there...


He fell into the chair, and the wife threw the chocolates onto his corpse in disgust.

Yes. I'll give you this, except there's no note!

I used this as a starting point (obviously changed some details):
http://www.kerngoldenempire.com/news/local-news/duplicate-valentines-day-gift-may-have-served-as-motive-in-murder-of-local-chef/664165595

Case #19 closed!

Chief inspector: Mandle
Assistant inspector (who did a lot of the work): Snarky

Your turn, Mandle.
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Mandle

Sweet! That was a nice Valentine's Day massacre!

I'll come up with a new one soon!

Mandle

I thought up two potential cases. I will choose the one I'm guessing might be a better round:

Case #20 - A man is killed. After his body is found it is kept at his workplace permanently. What's going on?

YES



NO


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