the diet...

Started by neighbour, Sun 14/09/2003 00:13:38

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Timosity

I don't really ever diet, and I also don't eat that healthily either, I weigh about 60kg at about 5ft 9. I did get up to about 75kg at one stage a couple of years ago but that was due to drinking too much beer, and eating too much fast food over winter. I was technically in a healthy weight range for my height, but these studies are all bullshit, they don't take into consideration how small your bone frame is or how much of your weight is taken by muscle or fat (I'm talking about silly graphs that even include weight ranges for small medium and large builds) I know my personal healthy weight range is 60-65kg.

I reckon the beer puts on more weight than fast food.

I see some people are trying to turn fat into muscle, it doesn't quite work that way, you can reduce the size of your fat cells, or put on muscle bulk, but it is chemically impossible to turn fat into muscle.

And as far as healthy rate of losing weight, 1 to 1.5 kg per week is healthy, any more than that and you will start to have health problems.

(note: dehydrating doesn't count, and can be very dangerous, you can loose a few kg in water after heavy exercise (or taking diet pills), but you put it back on when you drink a few litres of water. Most hollywood fad diets do this to you, so you think you are losing weight, that's also why you put it back on, straight away.)

All the advice here is pretty good, just eat regulary and healthily with some exercise. If you eat large portions of food, serve out smaller portions and still eat at the same times, don't add salt or sugar to things as there is usually enough natural salts and sugars in most foods.

It's all easier than you think to achieve, you just have to be concious about it, and don't expect to see the results immediately.

Also remember that you don't just go on a diet, if you want to keep a constant normal weight, you can't just say "Oh, I've lost weight, now I can go back to what I was doing before." A DIET is what you should keep up for your whole life, A healthy diet means a healthy body.

If only I hadn't been smoking for half my life.

Pessi

Timosity, when I mentioned turning fat into muscle, I was just pointing out the fact that fat is stored energy. When you exercise, you burn the fat, releasing the energy to repair and strengthen the muscle cells that were burdened by the exercise.

I've read too many of those quotes by nutritional supplement endorsers that go like "while reducing my body fat, I actually gained lean muscle mass, only this nutritient has been able to provide that" and so on. Or something. Anyway, just trying to make myself look less of a fool. Definitely not assuming you didn't know better than I do, because I'm certain you do.

Anyway, that's a really good point about not expecting too significant results. I've personally noticed too high expectations and close studying of my body weight for example, slowing down the progress, which in my case is actually to gain weight. Nowadays I just do the work-outs, eat well and leave it at that. I'm bound to check my weight at some point anyway and I'll surely be positively surprised when I do. I think the scientific explanation for this would be the fact that when you put great expectations to yourself it causes you stress, which, when continued for a period of time, consumes you in a negative way. Taking away the benefits of healthy diet.

neighbourdieting a little

Quote from: Minimi on Sun 14/09/2003 22:28:24
GL neighbour with you weight. In my opinion it doesn't really matter how much you weight, only that your not bringing yourself in health danger, for example sumo-wrestlers. I think it's good to avoid other peoples opinions around you, and in magazines, because you shouldn't look at the norm. You are who you are, and you shouldn't be unhappy with what and who you are. If your getting happy of a diet or excersise, then its okay, but don't do it, just for the "good" look to others.

I'm doing it to maybe later gain muscles. cause my neighbour (lol. neighbour) told me I've got a body that could for such matters. and i believe him. I've always been the strongest.
but I'm also a little overweight.

YOke

The Self Destructive Diet!

Start to smoke and eat only noodles! Worked for me when I was a student. Went from 112 kg to 85 kg in five months.
Put on some lately, so I have to start eating noodles again soon. :)

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Hobbes

Ah, yes, smoking. That helps. *grins* Takes away appetite, muchly.

I'm 2,06 metres... somewhere in the 6 feet 6" category, if I'm not mistaken. Prolly taller.

Am somewhat disappointed to see Minimi beats me by almost an inch, though. I weight some meagre 85 kg. which is grossly too little for someone my length...

...but sporting always works. My weight was higher when I was heavily playing volleybal, even though it didn't show back then. :)

Las Naranjas

Just out of interest for this thread, I went a weighed myself again. 56 kilos now. That's been since I've been riding the bike everyday to get rid of copious amounts of spare energy. Must be muscle gain.
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Nacho

Quote from: Hobbes on Mon 15/09/2003 19:13:44
I'm 2,06 metres... somewhere in the 6 feet 6" category, if I'm not mistaken. Prolly taller.

2,06 meters??? Wow... that, s more than much of the professional basket players in my country... I am just 1,62  :P

BTW, being that light helps for climbing mountains  :)
Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

DragonRose

I'm 1.72 m and around 54 kg.  This weight range is also known as "so skinny you can see my ribs." This spring I was a little sick, but my doctor ended up putting me on a low fat diet where I was eating about half of what I normally would. EG I normally eat two bowls of cereal for breakfast, a bagel with cream cheese at lunch and a couple of chicken breasts for dinner.  This became one bowl of cereal, a peanut butter sandwich and a chicken breast. Under this diet, I lost 2 kilos.  It took a month for the weight to come back.  

I'm probably the only person in the world who really WANTS the freshman 15.  That would bring me right up to the "healthy" range.
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SSH

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Quote from: Dragonrose on Tue 16/09/2003 15:57:18
EG I normally eat two bowls of cereal for breakfast, a bagel with cream cheese at lunch and a couple of chicken breasts for dinner.  This became one bowl of cereal, a peanut butter sandwich and a chicken breast.

Sounds like you should be getting scurvy real soon now... no fruit or veg? 5 portions a day is recommended!

I must say that I weighed about 67 kilos before I met my wife and now weigh about 80. And she still loves me! Part of this is down to my stopping cycling because I now live too far from work (15 miles, which I can do but I don't want to spend 2 hours a day travelling and besides I need to take the baby with me sometimes)

But my kilt only just fits these days
:( :( :(
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Squinky

I'm 6ft 240 pnds....but I don't "look" it so we'll all be happy till I die of a heart attack...

Pumaman

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For anyone else who's as confused as I am, here's a handy conversion table courtesy of Roger:

50 kg = 7 3/4 stone = 110 pounds
55 kg = 8 1/2 stone = 121 pounds
60 kg = 9 1/4 stone = 132 pounds
65 kg = 10 stone = 143 pounds
70 kg = 11 stone = 154 pounds
75 kg = 11 3/4 stone = 165 pounds
80 kg = 12 1/2 stone = 176 pounds
85 kg = 13 1/4 stone = 187 pounds
90 kg = 14 stone = 198 pounds
100 kg = 15 1/2 stone = 220 pounds
110 kg = 17 stone = 240 pounds

Pessi

Cool!

I actually sorted that problem out with Google. It has this great feature for converting units. Just type "65kg to pounds" and the first thing it shows is the result. You can convert almost any unit you can think of.

I never get used to pounds, feets or even miles! I'm still trying to figure out Euros. :)

DragonRose

Quote from: SSH on Tue 16/09/2003 16:08:07
Quote from: Dragonrose
Sounds like you should be getting scurvy real soon now... no fruit or veg? 5 portions a day is recommended!

/quote]

That isn't ALL I eat. :P  Those were just the things I had to cut in half.  I still could eat all the fruit and veggies I wanted (except for apples, for some bizzarre reason) and normally I down a litre of juice a day.
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BOYD1981

Quote from: SSH on Tue 16/09/2003 16:08:07
I must say that I weighed about 67 kilos before I met my wife and now weigh about 80. And she still loves me! Part of this is down to my stopping cycling because I now live too far from work (15 miles, which I can do but I don't want to spend 2 hours a day travelling and besides I need to take the baby with me sometimes)

But my kilt only just fits these days
:( :( :(

cut down on the haggis suppers and deep fried mars bars then  ;D

OT - talking of haggis, i wish there was a scottish chip shop in my town, there's enough scottish people here (including my dad)...

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