Happy halloween!

[Minimi]

AAh cmon, you are all bouding christianity to religion, but it hasn't got aything to do with religion. And I was only on drugs last night W00t!

So I know halloween can be fun, just as carnaval, christmas and valentine can be fun, but to my knowledge, you shouldn't play with dark powers. To respond to Darth Mandarb, just that it's been made as something innocence by people, doesn't mean that demons think the same about that. Just like harry potter, pokemon, dragonballz, powerrangers, and whatelse more stuff there is on the market to make things seem innocence, and influence children with it. That's actually why I said it's sick... But if you like it, God gave mankind free will, so I'm not taking that from you :p Neither should this topic be locked... it was a random qoute!

[MrColossal]

to bring a clockwork orange back into discussion

i went as Alex for halloween a few years ago and everyone was confused

a little kid asked me who i was and i just said "i'm a guy from a movie" and walked away....

um... i mean stabbed her in the face!! it was real horror show

minimi... i really hope you don't grow up to be one of those people who has a vague idea of what their religion is all about and then goes ahead and preaches this vague idea to everyone who will listen and some who won't. and will deny anyone else the chance to do anything they want that may go against your beliefs... that and i know many christians who love halloween. jesus how old are you? it means free candy, i'm 22 and i still love free candy!

oh minimi, i hope you haven't played any of the monkey island games cause that deals in the occult, and don't play Grim Fandango cause that's crazy pagan mexican beliefs... and don't play quest for glory or king's quest cause there's more occult for you...



hey you guys!! stop meddling in dark powers!!



YOU THERE!! Sponge Bob! watch out satan will get you cause streamers and punch are also symbols of the devil

[Minimi]

Dear MrColassal,

As you may have noticed, was my first post, abit sarcastic, so in that way, I do love candy's and argh... your saying again the word religion.. grr... Anyway, now, you are being sarcastic, and you try to push people in squares, where they do not belong. I said, that there are SOME feasts, and SOME things, that CAN, notice the CAN and not WILL.... so CAN bring you under a wrong spirit. And just to be ensured that my contact with God stays clean... and that I won't hurt God, because I love Him, I won't join... but don't come on with the crap about monkey island, because that game rulez.

Btw... I did like Clockwork Orange, in the way that it's very psychological, and so twisted to most of our thinking patterns, so in that way, it gave you a good view of another man's mind.

[YakWork]

Just beware of hypocrisy.  I sincerely doubt that treak-or-treating or dressing in a costume will ship your soul to hell 2-day-express-style.  However, dabbling with narcotics and alcohol are both proven to have at least some negative effects.  Nobody asks that you do things you don't feel right about or do something that could cause conflicts with your dogma.  However, please don't feel the need to inflict others with your beliefs.  We'll try not to do the same to you, we swear.

[MrColossal]

um if you can say that "harry potter, pokemon, dragonballz, powerrangers" can influence children into doing nasty things then i can certainly say by that logic that ANYTHING with "occult" in it can influence children in a bad way

and if you're going to make that logical leap you can't be selective and say "well monkey island ruled and you know it!" cause that's making an exception.

[Quintaros]

AAh cmon, you are all bouding christianity to religion, but it hasn't got aything to do with religion.

Huh?

[Mr Jake]

wasn't halloween a Christain holiday todo with the witch hunts??

And didnt the trick or threat bit come from beggers going door to door on halloween for food?? (I know this has been 'jacked up')

Thats just whats I heard, please corrects me if Im wrong.

[Quintaros]

Quote from History Channel Exhibits: The History of Halloween

"Halloween's origins date back to the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain (pronounced sow-in). The Celts, who lived 2,000 years ago in the area that is now Ireland, the United Kingdom, and northern France, celebrated their new year on November 1. This day marked the end of summer and the harvest and the beginning of the dark, cold winter, a time of year that was often associated with human death. Celts believed that on the night before the new year, the boundary between the worlds of the living and the dead became blurred. On the night of October 31, they celebrated Samhain, when it was believed that the ghosts of the dead returned to earth. In addition to causing trouble and damaging crops, Celts thought that the presence of the otherworldly spirits made it easier for the Druids, or Celtic priests, to make predictions about the future. For a people entirely dependent on the volatile natural world, these prophecies were an important source of comfort and direction during the long, dark winter.

To commemorate the event, Druids built huge sacred bonfires, where the people gathered to burn crops and animals as sacrifices to the Celtic deities. During the celebration, the Celts wore costumes, typically consisting of animal heads and skins, and attempted to tell each other's fortunes. When the celebration was over, they re-lit their hearth fires, which they had extinguished earlier that evening, from the sacred bonfire to help protect them during the coming winter.

By A.D. 43, Romans had conquered the majority of Celtic territory. In the course of the four hundred years that they ruled the Celtic lands, two festivals of Roman origin were combined with the traditional Celtic celebration of Samhain. The first was Feralia, a day in late October when the Romans traditionally commemorated the passing of the dead. The second was a day to honor Pomona, the Roman goddess of fruit and trees. The symbol of Pomona is the apple and the incorporation of this celebration into Samhain probably explains the tradition of "bobbing" for apples that is practiced today on Halloween.

By the 800s, the influence of Christianity had spread into Celtic lands. In the seventh century, Pope Boniface IV designated November 1 All Saints' Day, a time to honor saints and martyrs. It is widely believed today that the pope was attempting to replace the Celtic festival of the dead with a related, but church-sanctioned holiday. The celebration was also called All-hallows or All-hallowmas (from Middle English Alholowmesse meaning All Saints' Day) and the night before it, the night of Samhain, began to be called All-hallows Eve and, eventually, Halloween. Even later, in A.D. 1000, the church would make November 2 All Souls' Day, a day to honor the dead. It was celebrated similarly to Samhain, with big bonfires, parades, and dressing up in costumes as saints, angels, and devils. Together, the three celebrations, the eve of All Saints', All Saints', and All Souls', were called Hallowmas.



The American tradition of "trick-or-treating" probably dates back to the early All Souls' Day parades in England. During the festivities, poor citizens would beg for food and families would give them pastries called "soul cakes" in return for their promise to pray for the family's dead relatives. The distribution of soul cakes was encouraged by the church as a way to replace the ancient practice of leaving food and wine for roaming spirits. The practice, which was referred to as "going a-souling" was eventually taken up by children who would visit the houses in their neighborhood and be given ale, food, and money.

The tradition of dressing in costume for Halloween has both European and Celtic roots. Hundreds of years ago, winter was an uncertain and frightening time. Food supplies often ran low and, for the many people afraid of the dark, the short days of winter were full of constant worry. On Halloween, when it was believed that ghosts came back to the earthly world, people thought that they would encounter ghosts if they left their homes. To avoid being recognized by these ghosts, people would wear masks when they left their homes after dark so that the ghosts would mistake them for fellow spirits. On Halloween, to keep ghosts away from their houses, people would place bowls of food outside their homes to appease the ghosts and prevent them from attempting to enter.



As European immigrants came to America, they brought their varied Halloween customs with them. Because of the rigid Protestant belief systems that characterized early New England, celebration of Halloween in colonial times was extremely limited there. It was much more common in Maryland and the southern colonies. As the beliefs and customs of different European ethnic groups, as well as the American Indians, meshed, a distinctly American version of Halloween began to emerge. The first celebrations included "play parties," public events held to celebrate the harvest, where neighbors would share stories of the dead, tell each other's fortunes, dance, and sing. Colonial Halloween festivities also featured the telling of ghost stories and mischief-making of all kinds. By the middle of the nineteenth century, annual autumn festivities were common, but Halloween was not yet celebrated everywhere in the country.

In the second half of the nineteenth century, America was flooded with new immigrants. These new immigrants, especially the millions of Irish fleeing Ireland's potato famine of 1846, helped to popularize the celebration of Halloween nationally. Taking from Irish and English traditions, Americans began to dress up in costumes and go house to house asking for food or money, a practice that eventually became today's "trick-or-treat" tradition. Young women believed that, on Halloween, they could divine the name or appearance of their future husband by doing tricks with yarn, apple parings, or mirrors.

In the late 1800s, there was a move in America to mold Halloween into a holiday more about community and neighborly get-togethers, than about ghosts, pranks, and witchcraft. At the turn of the century, Halloween parties for both children and adults became the most common way to celebrate the day. Parties focused on games, foods of the season, and festive costumes. Parents were encouraged by newspapers and community leaders to take anything "frightening" or "grotesque" out of Halloween celebrations. Because of their efforts, Halloween lost most of its superstitious and religious overtones by the beginning of the twentieth century.

By the 1920s and 1930s, Halloween had become a secular, but community-centered holiday, with parades and town-wide parties as the featured entertainment. Despite the best efforts of many schools and communities, vandalism began to plague Halloween celebrations in many communities during this time. By the 1950s, town leaders had successfully limited vandalism and Halloween had evolved into a holiday directed mainly at the young. Due to the high numbers of young children during the fifties baby boom, parties moved from town civic centers into the classroom or home, where they could be more easily accommodated. Between 1920 and 1950, the centuries-old practice of trick-or-treating was also revived. Trick-or-treating was a relatively inexpensive way for an entire community to share the Halloween celebration. In theory, families could also prevent tricks being played on them by providing the neighborhood children with small treats. A new American tradition was born, and it has continued to grow. Today, Americans spend an estimated $6.9 billion annually on Halloween, making it the country's second largest commercial holiday. "

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

Since I don't go trick or threating, I just got meself a cool new spooky avatar. BOOO!
And I read clockwork orange and I loved it. Why? It was different. I was disgusting. It was scary. it was sick. Therefore, it's good.

[Andail]

Andail's list of approval and disapproval:

1. Trick or treat - spoiled brats comming here demanding candy, no thanks
2. Dressing up - fun fun!
3. A clockwork Orange - one of my top five movies ever
4. Minimi - you might be over 2 meters tall, but you make silly posts sometimes!

[Pet Terry]

lol m0ds, that mp3 was great!

[Pumaman]

1. Trick or treat - spoiled brats comming here demanding candy, no thanks

You're right there - these jumped up little kids come round, demanding candy... and even if you give them some, they still pour milk and flour through your letterbox and pelt your car with eggs ._.

In case I'm sounding like a moaning old man, let me just say that halloween is worth it for the costumes and so forth  

[Quintaros]

If the kids are pretty young and have a well thought out costume I have no issues with giving them candy.  Its only when they're early teenagers who slap together some last minute half-assed attempt at a costume so they can go milk the neighbourhood one more year while causing petty mischief, that I have a problem.


To me the effort put into the costume is the payment for the candy.  I get to see kids dressed up in cool costumes.  They get candy.  Symbiotic really.  Although if I don't know what they're supposed to be even after they tell me I just feel old and out-of-touch.

[Ben]

All the kids around here go to the other side of town to Trick-or-treat. That means I get to keep all my candy. As for the egging and TPing, that's all part of the fun. Tough maybe I just think that because nobody's egged my house.

Minimi: God probably thinks you're an ass-kissing brown-nose  . Don't worry. I'm sure He'll forgive you..

[m0ds]

Ahhhhh for fucks sake people, just say happy halloween and be done with it!


m0ds

[Layabout]

We dont have halloween in australia. and if people celebrate it we call them fuckers.

So Happy Fuckday fuckers!!!

[magintz]

DEVIL WORSHIPPERS THE LOT OF j00!!!


*eats his candy*


I hope your.... *munch* ...happy!

[edmundito]

Andail's list of approval and disapproval:
2. Dressing up - fun fun!
3. A clockwork Orange - one of my top five movies ever

Did anyone dress up? if so, post pictures!  

A clockwork orange is awesome, I was watching it yesterday and then I ran into some kid dressed up   with the alex costume... so I had to say "hey, I was watching that this afternoon!"

[Alexis Vale]

I dressed up this year. I was one of those annoying brats who knocked on strangers' doors for candy. Best thing about it is that I'm short (5' something) and skinny (...less than 90 lbs...) and I was wearing a mask, so I could pass for a sixth grader (I'm a sophmore who will grow no more). Plus, I was going around with four of my younger siblings. Great fun. I ended up with three lbs. of candy, 135+ pieces (yes, I took an inventory of it all), and I hit Publix, a school, and about 30+ houses. Great year. Last year I barely got 2 lbs. It was skim pickings.

I don't have photos from this year yet (I was a skeleton), but here are some from last year. I was Little Red Riding Hood risen from the dead...but most people thought I was a vampire. Maybe I should have worn white make-up.




Oh yeah, I live in a house with a long driveway, so no one ever visits us for Halloween.

[remixor]

http://screen7.adventuredevelopers.com/fun/halloween.mp3

!111

A timeless classic, to be sure.