Speaker music!?

Synthetique · Thu 22/05/2003 20:43:37

Is there a way to make speaker music like in old Larry?
if not.. fix it! its an important thing for us oldies...

Archangel (aka SoupDragon) · Thu 22/05/2003 21:49:54

What do you mean by 'speaker music'?

Privateer Puddin' · Thu 22/05/2003 21:56:21

i guess, Internal PC speaker

Synthetique · Thu 22/05/2003 21:56:49

PC Speaker.. you know... the speaker inside that big can with lots of electric stuff in it..

Archangel (aka SoupDragon) · Thu 22/05/2003 22:15:29

Eugh! I hate internal pc speaker music with a passion. If anyone made a game with pc speaker music I would destroy their pc, kill them and their family, then their town, then most of the population of the world. Unfortunately.

Synthetique · Fri 23/05/2003 00:34:12

good for you..

but some of us likes it..

Gilbert · Fri 23/05/2003 02:35:09

Nope, and unfortunately not many people have an internal speaker (eg. me) any more so they won't be able to hear the music.

The best way is to make MOD files with cheesy samples like the speaker tones.

Synthetique · Fri 23/05/2003 12:30:04

cool.. that will do..

scotch · Fri 23/05/2003 12:36:39

Wow, I've never heard of a pc with no internal speaker ._. guess mine's just old.

Synthetique · Fri 23/05/2003 12:38:05

mine's new and i have internal speakers

Ishmael · Fri 23/05/2003 12:59:41

I have a like one year old comp, and I have a speaker. I (and and the others in Dima) have made lots of Finnish text adventures with speaker music...

* running away screeming like crazy *

Scorpiorus · Fri 23/05/2003 15:35:57

Isn't it built-in by default to beep system alarms etc? Or is there only integrated sound cards now? Anyway AGS doesn't support speaker I think but it's not needed as almost all people have sound cards. And you could simulate it if you get a nostalgia like me sometimes.

-Cheers

Pumaman · Sun 25/05/2003 16:45:34

Sorry, I'm not going to implement PC Squeaker support into AGS, it may be old-school but I'm not sure it's possible to do any more under Windows.

Ishmael · Mon 26/05/2003 06:10:16

Well, QBasic can do it...

Gilbert · Mon 26/05/2003 06:11:58

Nope, there're actually some new computers without built-in speakers. Moreover, my computers at home were all assembled ourselves, and we didn't bother putting teh Speakers in them.

Mennuz · Mon 26/05/2003 14:54:20

If you do qbasic "beep' in windows, jou hear a wav "duw" sound

Synthetique · Mon 26/05/2003 14:57:03

not me!

Ishmael · Mon 26/05/2003 14:57:20

Yes, but

PLAY "T120 a8 c7 d5 b7" will play the speaker.... I like the beeping...

Pumaman · Mon 26/05/2003 16:16:39

QBasic is not a Windows application.

It would be cool to have PC Speaker support in AGS, but I don't believe it is technically feasible to do, as the Win32 API provides no reliable way of accessing the speaker.

Fuzzpilz · Mon 26/05/2003 16:24:47

To do the really neat stuff as in the intro of Maniac Mansion PC or something (or the old Russian game Perestroika, does anybody else remember that?), you'd need direct access to various hardware - you'd have to install fairly complicated interrupt handlers and so on. Doing that well is high programming art (unless you want the crap produced by e.g. QBasic's play instruction). Doing it well in a program running under Windows is (probably, I'm not entirely sure) impossible. I think it would work if CJ wrote a device driver for this (which might have to replace the standard system speaker driver), but I really don't think it's worth the effort for either the designer or the player.

Pumaman · Mon 26/05/2003 16:42:01

Yep that's right, a device driver would work - but I doubt anyone would want the associated hassle of having to install the driver properly in order to use AGS - not to mention the effort for me to write it.

In conclusion, nice idea but not practical I'm afraid.

Ben · Mon 26/05/2003 19:46:46

Synthetique: You could fake it by playing a one-channel XM with only looped square-waves for samples. That would sound just like the internal speaker, and would also be much easier to turn off ;p

EDIT -- Like this:

SPEAKER.XM

Ghormak · Mon 26/05/2003 20:29:45

Haha, yes, that's excellent sound!

For some silly reason, I felt like expanding it a bit. I was bored.

I do know the internal speaker isn't capable of multiple voices, but like I said, I was bored, and boredom doesn't have any rules!1

Pumaman · Mon 26/05/2003 21:01:03

lol guys, that's great - it still can't quite match the tinny echo of the PC speaker though

Privateer Puddin' · Mon 26/05/2003 21:08:42

man they were fantastic

Synthetique · Tue 27/05/2003 19:46:37

cool tune... but i allready said that ;P

Scorpiorus · Tue 27/05/2003 21:35:31

QuoteEDIT -- Like this:

SPEAKER.XM

hehe, nice one

Archangel (aka SoupDragon) · Tue 27/05/2003 22:41:25

Quote from: CJ on Mon 26/05/2003 21:01:03
lol guys, that's great - it still can't quite match the tinny echo of the PC speaker though

Or the inevitable, mind numbing, piercing volume