Adventure Game Studio

So, I was thinking to make some sort of AGS facts feature on AGSArchives.com that will show a random fact about AGS on the website.

So why am I posting here?
Because I would love for some peeps on here to help me add some facts!
It could for example be things like:

"As of 2010 there has been made over 1500 games with AGS"
"The Adventures of Fatman is the first AGS game going commercial"
"The first AGS version was released in XXXX"

Basically anything AGS related, either funny or just informative.
Any help with this would be highly appreciated!

Thanks,
Peder Johnsen.

"Chris Jones' middle name is... [connection terminated]"

"AGS stands for Adventure Game Studio"  ;D

"(Unless it stands for American Girl Scauts)"

"Yahtzee makes games which titles start with a number. His reasons for doing this remain shrouded in mystery."

Quote from: Ascovel on Wed 22/09/2010 01:38:46
"Yahtzee makes games which titles start with a number. His reasons for doing this remain shrouded in mystery."

He clearly did it to be on page 1 of the games database  ;).

Regarding AGS facts.... "The AGS forums are 93% more likely to go down when CJ isn't around to fix them."

Quote from: Ascovel on Wed 22/09/2010 01:38:46
"Yahtzee makes games which titles start with a number. His reasons for doing this remain shrouded in mystery."

"Addendum: Urban legend has it that two men, Ben and Vince as some sources call them, unknowingly came close to discover Yahtzee's secret by coincidentally starting their game titles with symbols rather than characters or numbers. According to more gruesome variants of the tale, these men are now on the hit list of the (almost certainly) mythical "6 Day Assassin"."

Edit:

Quote from: Baron on Wed 22/09/2010 02:01:18Regarding AGS facts.... "The AGS forums are 93% more likely to go down when CJ isn't around to fix them."

"This usually happens during CJ's attendance of Mittens where, through strange synchronicity, 93% of the forumites are likely to go down on him!"  :=

AGS is...

is...

Wow, I know nothing about this program.

Some facts about the AGS awards or something?

People people!

"We all know that the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse are called Fountain of Youth, Run Hot, The Legend of the Lost Lagoon and The Legend of Leitor's Edge. When you see any of them appear, you know that hell has frozen over and the end of time is nigh."

-SSH

The single most remarkable and best QUOTE in the AGS forums.

AGS used to run in DOS until version <foo>
AGS runs in Linux since version <bar>
The editor sometimes inserts lines that say "DO NOT EDIT OR MODIFY THIS LINE" but nothing bad happens if you do.
The Make My Game For Me button really works!
The empty game template isn't entirely empty.
The AGS game with the most rooms is <qux>
The AGS game with the least sprites is Vector Vendetta.
The standard "poster" and "blue cup" items are hand-drawn by Chris.
The standard "Roger" character is a handmade attempt to duplicate Roger Wilco pixel-by-pixel.
The standard font is also from Space Quest.

...afaik

QFG2 is the game that reached the limits of the engine.

Quote from: Dualnames on Wed 22/09/2010 15:39:13
QFG2 is the game that reached the limits of the engine.

Which limits would that be? Because there's several limits, and most of them have been changed once or twice in the past decade.

Statistics. Well, not a nice fact come to think of it. Doesn't make much sense.

304, the Number of the Ben (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?action=profile;u=4786) might refer to:
- a Sri Lankan card game
- the most common type of stainless steel
- Peugot 304
- a fictional class battlecruiser in the Stargate universe
- 19 x 16

It refers to the paganist recitation in Judas Evangelion (a powerful mech).

"The man who shall make 304 games, shall gain boobs, asses, and stamina. And eventually will end the world."

COUNTER:
286 or so to go.

Nice! Not sure if it's a fact, but I'd like to find out:

The first trilogy in AGS was The Book of Spells by Spyros. In fact after research, if that's the case, it'd also qualify for first quadrilogy.

Quote from: Mods on Tue 28/09/2010 00:59:58
Nice! Not sure if it's a fact, but I'd like to find out:

The first trilogy in AGS was The Book of Spells by Spyros. In fact after research, if that's the case, it'd also qualify for first quadrilogy.

The only franchise that ends in four parts is Book of Spells and Lone Case, which surprised me when I figured out. I think also Demon Slayer by Squinky ends in 4 parts.

AGS wants you to enjoy Christmas with your family.

The Princess Marian series saved SSH's marriage (I don't know if this is true or not, but I say let the tabloids sort it out).

Bill Cosby was the first celebrity to appear in an AGS game (I think).

The Barn Runner series has never won a single AGS award. (Shocking I know).

And that's about all I can think of at the moment.

So you want some AGS facts?
Here you go [only AGS games facts though]:

CATEGORY	GAME TITLE	AUTHOR	COMPILE DATE
First ever Trilogy	Rob Blanc [1-3]	by Yatzee	2001-01
First ever Quadrology	book of spells [1-4]	by Spyros Soldatos	2001-08
First ever Pentology	Barnrunner	Ponch	2005-01
Game with the most episodes [11]	second moon Second Moon Adventure [11]	by dasTobi-AS	2002-05
Game with the most episodes [11]	Adventures of Princess Marian	SSH	2003-01
First ever Commercial Game	The Adventures of Fatman - Toxic Revenge	Ionias	2003-05
First ever Parody Game	Night of the Hermit	Roy Lazarovich	2000-10
First ever game that used the Windows editor	Gorthor of the Cave People	Layabout	2004-04
First game ever with Speech.vox	Little Willy's darts game	Spyros	2001-08
First game ever with Music.vox	Tulle's World 3 - The Glorious Realm of Thendor	Andail	2002-01
Biggest Speech.vox file used in a game ever [92,8 MB (97.359.505 bytes)]	Osher Bli Gvulot - Boundless Osher	Jonathan Yalon and Ori Wachtel	2007-09
Biggest Music.vox file used in a game ever [95,5 MB (100.149.649 bytes)]	The Treasured Medallion	by Anne Hemenway	2009-04
Game with the most awards ever [7]	Apprentice II: The Knight's Move	Herculean Effort Productions	2004-07
Smallest [non-compo & non-joke & non-training] Adventure Game [Disk-size] Ever [1,53 MB (1.609.714 bytes)]	6 Day Assassin	by Mr Colossal	2002-02
Smallest [non-compo & non-joke & non-training] Non-Adventure Game [Disk-Size] Ever  [836 KB (856.309 bytes)]	AGS Black Jack (Dos Version)	Anton Ulvfot aka Vargtass	2001-08
Biggest [non-compo & non-joke & non-training] Game [Disk-Size] Ever [1,58 GB (1.706.705.136 bytes)]	The Treasured Medallion	by Anne Hemenway	2009-04
Biggest compiled exe file ever	The Treasured Medallion	by Anne Hemenway	2009-04
First compiled game [any category] ever	Alles Euro/Everything Euro [Original version]	abstauber	2000-02
First compiled training game	Space	Peter(Mr.Genius)Tomov	2001-09
First compiled joke game	Red Flagg and the philosophers stone aka Red Flagg, Professional Fisherman In - "Don't call me blue"	Scid	2000-11
First compiled demo	Cosmos [demo]	Joe Kent	2000-03
First compiled short game	Alles Euro/Everything Euro [Original version]	abstauber	2000-02
First compiled medium lenght game	Ace Duswell: Where's the Ace?	Greg Hurst	2001-01
First compiled full lenght game	Book of Spells, The - Chapter 1	Spyros Soldatos	2001-08
First non-english games:
-Italian	Lupo Inutile [demo]	byManu79	2002-04
-Spanish	Indy y la Abadia de Effel	Ubik	2002-10
-Galicia [NW Spain]	Proxecto Percebe (DEMO)	Alejandro Fandiño	2005-04
-German	Der Verschwundene Husky	Floyd	2005-12
-Catalan	La Gran Castanya	Arnau Bernat	2006-09
-Israeli /Hebrew	Osher Bli Gvulot - Boundless Osher	Jonathan Yalon and Ori Wachtel	2007-09
-Spanish	La LlavLa Llave y Fabian Shonese	Mariano Cirigliano	2009-07
-Turkish	Forgetten Death [Demo]	Mert Kýlýç	2010-09
Longest game title for non-episode games	Wooly Rockbottom and the Quest for the Golden Beard of Thor!	ProgZmax	2006-08
Most odd game title	IWWHIIWWHITOMIROTPG - The Game!	monkey_05_06	2009-11

Most used noun in [database and non-database] game titles	"Quest": in 142 AGS game titles.
At 2010-09-28 the AGS database contains 1188 entries.

If something is incorrect, let me know :)

EDIT:
And a brand new AGS fact:
First geek ever that read this whole list: Radiant  ;)

Most used noun in [database and non-database] game titles   "Quest": in 146 AGS game titles:

Ace Quest
Ace Quest 2
Ache Quest
Adventure Quest
Adventure Quest 2 - Winterlong
AL-QUEST 1
Annoying Quest
Awesmoe Quest
Bart's Quest For TV
Beer Quest
Billy B. Star and the Lapaset Travel Quest
Board Quest
Bob's Quest
Bob's Quest II
Bowser Quirk Quest
Brad Bradson I: Key Quest
Bunny Quest
Cabbage Quest - Quest for Knowledge aka Cabbage of the Closest Kind
Cacho Quest
Castle Quest [non-playable demo]
Chalk's Quest
Christmas Quest
Christmas Quest 2: the Yuletide Flows in
Christmas Quest 3: Santa's Little Help Desk
Cosmos Quest I: To Find a Sun
Cosmos Quest II: To Find a Sun
Cosmos Quest III: The Mines of Isagor
Cougar's Quest for Freedom
Crap Quest
Crystal Quest
Dale's Film Quest
Dead Quest
Deat(h)'s Quest
Don Spillacy's Conspiracy Quest
Duzz Quest: An Egotistic Adventure
DuzzQuest2
FBI Quest
Galaxy Quest: The Arkainian Artifact
Gladiator Quest
Glitch Quest
Goose Quest 1 DEMO
Guyver Quest I: Sho Adventures
Guyver Quest II: Cronos
Hard Space: Conquest of the Gayliks!
Henkka Mini Quest
House Quest
House Quest II
Interresting Basket Quest
Island Quest
Isle Quest
Jimm's Quest III, Lesko's Revenge
Kikme Quest
King's Quest I VGA - Quest for the Crown
King's Quest II+ VGA - Romancing the Stones
King's Quest III
King's Quest IX: The Silver Lining VGA (Demo I)
Knight Quest for the Golden Ring
Knight's Quest III - Tides of Merania
Knight's Quest IV - Here Today, Gone to Yesterday
Lassi Quest 1
Lassi Quest 1 Remake
Lassi Quest 2 Teaser Demo
Lowe Quest
Meaning Quest DEMO
Melrin: The Pendant Quest
Million Dollars Quest!
Mom's Quest
My First Quest
NecroQuest 1. The Inheritance
NecroQuest 1. The Inheritance [Deluxe]
NES Quest
Ninja Quest
No King Quest!
Norbi's quest
Norbi's quest 1,5
Norbi's quest 2
Not Another Space Quest
Old Park Quest
Oldman's Quest
OpenQuest
Owl's Quest: Every Owl has it's Day
Palette Quest
Palette Quest 2.0
Paparazzi Prince and the Quest for Headlines, The
Paul Quest Gold Edition
Pester Quest - From n00b to newb
Pizza Quest
Porn Quest
Pub master quest:Demo
Pub master quest.2:shogin crystal part1
Quest Fighter
Quest Fighter II
Quest for Cinema
Quest for Colours
Quest for Glory 4 1/2
Quest for Glory II VGA: Trial By Fire
Quest for heroes, The
Quest for my Raincoat, The aka DickBoy
Quest for Orgy - So You Thought She Is A Virgin
Quest for the Black Diamond
Quest for the Blue Cup
Quest For The Holy Salsa, The
Quest for Yeti
Quest For Yrolg
Quest To Zooloo, The [Full Talkie]
Quimby Quest
Record Quest
Ricky Quest
ROBO-QUEST
Roccio's Quest
Rode Quest
Rode Quest 2: The Sweet Smell of Stenchie
Sammy's Quest
Satan Quest
Satch's Quest
Secret Quest Remake
Sierra Quest 1: Roberta In Love
Slacker Quest
Slime Quest 2 Demo
Slime Quest for Pizza
Smiley's Quest
Smiley's Quest 2
Snail Quest 1
Snail Quest 2
Snail Quest 3
Souls Quest
Space Quest starring Capt. Wiggy Moses aka Space Mail - Return To Sender
Space Quest 2 - Vohaul's Revenge - VGA Remake [Teaser Demo] [by Tierra]
Space Quest 2 - Vohaul's Revenge - VGA Remake [Demo][byPetreas Faidon]
Space Quest 3 VGA Non-Playable Demo
Space Quest 5.5: Save captain Roger [DEMO 1.1]
Space Quest IV.5 - Roger Wilco And The Voyage Home
Space Quest XII (Russian Demo)
Space Quest: Planet Of The Incredible Menace
Stick Man Quest
Time Quest
Time Quest 2
Trash Quest
TV Quest
Unexpected Quest
Update Quest
Vacation Quest... Thing
WaterQuest
Wooly Rockbottom and the Quest for the Golden Beard of Thor!
World of Warcraft - The IMBA Quest
Zed's Quest

2010-10-01: added 4 ancient hourgames:
Ninja Quest to the Quest-list: Ninja Quest by Ghormak [2002-03].
Kikme Quest [2002-12]
Interresting Basket Quest [2002-11]
Annoying Quest [2003-05]

Quote from: Arj0n on Tue 28/09/2010 19:29:18
First non-english games:

I'm sure there are several games in French, aren't there? If games with translations count, then Portuguese and Czech should be on there. First game using translations? Game with most translations? First game with windows executable? First game that lacks a DOS executable? First game that uses the movie play module?

Also, your "first compiled joke game" predates your "first compiled game, any category".

In my list the games are without english translation.
Games having English + other languages could indeed be added but I can't search for that easily...

First game with windows executable: I found this one but i'm not sure if that's the first windows game:
First game using Winsetup.exe - Island Quest [demo] - by OneThinkingGal and ._. - 2002-02.

Fix the predating error btw, thanx ;)

Quote from: Radiant on Tue 28/09/2010 19:45:15

Quote from: Arj0n on Tue 28/09/2010 19:29:18
First non-english games:

I'm sure there are several games in French, aren't there? If games with translations count, then Portuguese and Czech should be on there. First game using translations? Game with most translations? First game with windows executable? First game that lacks a DOS executable? First game that uses the movie play module?

Also, your "first compiled joke game" predates your "first compiled game, any category".

You read the whole list?  :o

Geek! ;D

Hey Arjon,

I'd just like to mention that I've released "Alles Euro" on Feb 24th 2000 ;)
The development started in December 1999 and I'm also pretty sure I've released a demo back then.
I even remember that CJ found it "pretty impressive", hehe.
</being show-off>

Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 28/09/2010 20:12:28You read the whole list?  :o

Geek! ;D

Yay! Can we add "First geek to read the whole list" to the list? :D

Quote from: abstauber on Tue 28/09/2010 20:19:33
Hey Arjon,

I'd just like to mention that I've released "Alles Euro" on Feb 24th 2000 ;)
The development started in December 1999 and I'm also pretty sure I've released a demo back then.
I even remember that CJ found it "pretty impressive", hehe.
</being show-off>

Ah, I only have the "2008 re-release version". Changed the list now.
Alles Euro is now the first released/compiled game [any category & first released/compiled short game ever  :)

Hey, do you have a copy of the original version? I'd really like to have that one for my collection ;)

Quote from: Radiant on Tue 28/09/2010 20:28:39

Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 28/09/2010 20:12:28You read the whole list?  :o
Geek! ;D

Yay! Can we add "First geek to read the whole list" to the list? :D

Done  :P

Thanks for all facts and your HUGE list Arj0n!
I'll start adding some to the system :P.

Person with most AGS Awards and AGS Nominations: Yahtzee (19 and 53, respectively)

Person with most nominations in one year: Ben304 with 28 nominations in 2009

People with nominations stretching over most years: Duzz and Grundislav (02-09), AGDI (01-08)

Person with most succesive years of noms: Yahtzee (01-07)

Person with most succesive years of awards: Yahtzee (02-07)

Person with most flawless nominations (as in won any award he/she got a nomination for): Bicilotti (4)

I may be wrong, but I think I'm right.

Quote from: Arj0n on Tue 28/09/2010 19:29:18

Smallest [non-compo & non-joke & non-training] Adventure Game [Disk-size] Ever [1,53 MB (1.609.714 bytes)]

6 Day Assassin

by Mr Colossal

2002-02

According to its Database Entry (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=11) it's only 423 Kb (433, 152 bytes).

There're some factual errors about these facts though. It's common knowledge that Lassi Quest (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=17) was the 1st ever made game (I couldn't remember whether it was still in AC era or AGS, but if it was AGS, then there was no single game compiled with AC) but none of the 'first xxx game' categories here listed it.

First game to feature CJ as a voice actor: Granny Zombiekiller ... I think ;)

Quote from: Gilbet V7000a on Wed 29/09/2010 04:55:52
There're some factual errors about these facts though. It's common knowledge that Lassi Quest (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=17) was the 1st ever made game (I couldn't remember whether it was still in AC era or AGS, but if it was AGS, then there was no single game compiled with AC) but none of the 'first xxx game' categories here listed it.

But how can you then explain that Lassi Quest uses the character from Alles Euro. That guy that I "open sourced" after my release.
Another proof is that Visy imported Lassi (who I named Mac) without blocking the palette, hence the strange colours.

Btw. that's a new fact: first public available character beside BeMan and Roger. :D

Need proof?
(http://shatten.sonores.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/alles_mac.gif)(http://shatten.sonores.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/alles_mac2.gif)
bam! ;)


@Arjon:
I think I've the orginial installed archived somewhere, I'll take a look.

Quote from: Scarab on Wed 29/09/2010 04:37:42

Quote from: Arj0n on Tue 28/09/2010 19:29:18

Smallest [non-compo & non-joke & non-training] Adventure Game [Disk-size] Ever [1,53 MB (1.609.714 bytes)]

6 Day Assassin

by Mr Colossal

2002-02

According to its Database Entry (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=11) it's only 423 Kb (433, 152 bytes).

Yes, archived it's 433kb.
1.53mb = unpacked.
All size-facts are "unpacked facts" :)

Quote from: abstauber on Wed 29/09/2010 07:52:35
But how can you then explain that Lassi Quest uses the character from Alles Euro. That guy that I "open sourced" after my release.

Heh, maybe you're correct, as I remember both games appeared at approximately the same time, but I couldn't tell which was first, though I think one point people did argue at the time was that LQ was a "full game" or something like that. I couldn't judge as I never played your game for obvious reasons (it wasn't even in English, right?) and I didn't even know they share graphics. ;)

Quote from: Gilbet V7000a on Wed 29/09/2010 04:55:52
There're some factual errors about these facts though. It's common knowledge that Lassi Quest (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=17) was the 1st ever made game (I couldn't remember whether it was still in AC era or AGS, but if it was AGS, then there was no single game compiled with AC) but none of the 'first xxx game' categories here listed it.

I know Lassi Quest is know as 1st ags game ever, but:

Alles Euro/Everything Euro [Original version] by abstauber has been compiled in 2000-02
Lassi Quest 1 [Original version] by Visy has been compiled in 2000-12

Does that mean that I do not have the 'real' original version?

EDIT:
Abstauber already proofed who was first, hadn't read that post when posting this one...
Anyway, the compile dates mentioned in this post "might" be a proof too ;)

Quote from: abstauber on Wed 29/09/2010 07:52:35
@Arjon:
I think I've the orginial installed archived somewhere, I'll take a look.

Being the "real" 1st evah AGS game you *must* upload that version :D
No really, much appreciated if I can get your original version!

OK, I thought "Alles Euro/Everything Euro" [compiled/released 2000-02-24] was the 1st ever ags game but now I found this:

Stickmen v1.0 by DGMacpee has been compiled in 2000-01 5:45 [short games]
Ultimerr by DCMacPee has been compiled in 2000-01-01 5:02 [short games]

So, can someone validate what the real 1st AGS game is?

Quote from: Arj0n on Wed 29/09/2010 10:32:20
Does that mean that I do not have the 'real' original version?

That's still possible, so build dates aren't concrete proofs (but other stuff are, as settled in the above discussions and I'm sure you're aware of them), unless you can confirm that the files are indeed the first version.

One problem was that the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_Game_Studio#History) even lists LQ to have been released in as early as late '99. I don't know who added that (but at least the page in our own Wiki doesn't have this claim), and I couldn't confirm it as it's been a long, long time, but if that's true then it at least shows that you cannot judge this by build dates (not to mention that dates can be inaccurate and it's those favourite "millenium-bug" years).

Edited:
I'm quite sure that the Euro learning game and LQ predated DG's games. That's possibly an indication that your files weren't the original versions/build dates couldn't be taken seriously.

Thanx Gilbet

Updated the fact list part "At 2010-09-28 the AGS database contains 1188 entries" from 1192 to 1188.

Because these entries are no ags game entries:

entry 84= is only an entry to notify about the RON games serie
entry 1123 = only a notification for the "enter the story" serie [1201 & 1202]
entry 1299 = is only a short animation, not an ags game
entrie 1334 = is a a gamemaker file [.gmk], so no ags game

Good news - I've archived my complete ac folder back in February 2000. So here's the final proof:

www.sonores.de/temp/ac.zip

Inside you'll also find my first (compiled) test game ever, dating November 99.

Enjoy :D


PS. I also have Alles Euro as an installer - but this ancient ac folder is much more interesting and contains TEH SOURCE  :=

Quote from: abstauber on Wed 29/09/2010 19:23:09
Good news - I've archived my complete ac folder back in February 2000. So here's the final proof:

www.sonores.de/temp/ac.zip

Inside you'll also find my first (compiled) test game ever, dating November 99.

Enjoy :D

PS. I also have Alles Euro as an installer - but this ancient ac folder is much more interesting and contains TEH SOURCE  :=

A-w-e-s-o-m-e-!
And thanx, this one goes into my ags games museum in a special glass case ;)

B.t.w.: All 3 games run smooth on XP and after setting the soundcard to 'autodetect' even the music and sfx works ok. :)

test = indy-looking-guy test game [1999-11-29]
demo = demo quest [1999-12-29
pu = alles euro [2000-02-01] => 2000-02: so now you've officially beaten "Lassi Quest" being the proven 1st evah AGS game :D

Questions out of curiosity:
Does the indy-looking-guy test game got a 'real' name?
Where stands PU for?
Is this PU/'alles euro' version the complete game or a game in it's beta phase?
Has the other two demo's/test games ever been completed?

Thanx again Mr. Hochrotations-zerstäuber!

Haha.. cheers :)

Well demo is just Demo Quest, which came with AGS. It's also a reason why I chose AGS - it was the only free engine which could compile it's own demo. Oh well, Indiana Java could do that too but didn't have an IDE: roomedit ftw!

That test game is really just a small learning test. Just something small to see if AGS was capable of what I had in mind of Alles Euro. I know that there were bigger plans, but that cheesy recolored Indy were just a tad too cheesy.

PU stands for Projekt Unterricht, which means project education class - so yes, it was a school project in the first place. And a 1st class excuse to make games in school :)

The archive should contain the most recent version - although there is that installer, but the contents shouldn't differ.

'glad you had fun :D

Yay abstauber! A man disregarded in history you were, but all is fixed now.

This here says Lassi Quest is late '99.

http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/499552

So do a few other sources, some of which seem to have the exact same text but this is the first in the google results I spotted.

And has anybody asked visy for counter proof or have you just ruled over the whole deal?

Quote from: Ishmael on Thu 30/09/2010 11:06:19
This here says Lassi Quest is late '99.

http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/499552

So do a few other sources, some of which seem to have the exact same text but this is the first in the google results I spotted.

And has anybody asked visy for counter proof or have you just ruled over the whole deal?

My next step is indeed to ask Visy about this.
Also because in my opinion such documents like you posted ]http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/499552] (http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/499552)are not really proof worthy. Only Visy's answers can clear up questions for me.

Still this is a strange fact:

Quote from: abstauber on Wed 29/09/2010 07:52:35
But how can you then explain that Lassi Quest uses the character from Alles Euro. That guy that I "open sourced" after my release.
Another proof is that Visy imported Lassi (who I named Mac) without blocking the palette, hence the strange colours.

But I like to make clear that I'm not doing this to change the well know fact on this forum/community that Lassie Quest should be the 1st ags game ever.
So sorry if I'm stepping on someone's toes... :-[
I did this only for the 'ags facts' which Peder asked for... Thats all. :)

I think this pretty much says it Ish.

Quote
But how can you then explain that Lassi Quest uses the character from Alles Euro. That guy that I "open sourced" after my release.
Another proof is that Visy imported Lassi (who I named Mac) without blocking the palette, hence the strange colours.

Though that can also go the other way. The thing is whoever created the character made the first AGS game

http://blog.sonores.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/alleseuro2.png

This image shows that the character fits this game more. So question is was the character given to visy/public after the release of Alles Euro?

Like abstauber said:

Quote
That guy that I "open sourced" after my release.

Just found this video: http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=ugHZDkCZACk (http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=ugHZDkCZACk)  :D

Well played, cat.  Well played indeed.

There was no screenshot in the DB and I wanted to see how the game looks (and I love watching playthroughs)

I'm still confused because in the beginning the video says "it is seen as the first finished AGS game" and later on it says "The main character sprites are from a game called Alles Euro"

Is there also a youtube playthrough of "Alles Euro"? Didn't find one.

Definitely it answers a main question, now the only question remains if Abstauber released the sprite before the game(Lassi Quest).

Added 4 ancient hourgames to the Quest list:

Ninja Quest to the Quest-list: Ninja Quest by Ghormak [2002-03].
Kikme Quest [2002-12]
Interresting Basket Quest [2002-11]
Annoying Quest [2003-05]

Most used noun in [database and non-database] game titles "Quest": in 146 AGS game titles (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=41870.msg555178#msg555178).

Quote from: Dualnames on Thu 30/09/2010 17:10:51
Definitely it answers a main question, now the only question remains if Abstauber released the sprite before the game(Lassi Quest).

These are the files Visy released back then, the suomalainen version dates March 11th, 2000.
http://shatten.sonores.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/AllesLassi.zip

But in the end, believe what you want - you lived 9 years with the myth, why stopping just now :P

Yet another correction to that list: "Osher Bli Gvulot" is not the first Hebrew AGS game.
"Who sent me to Avadon" (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=23492.0) predates it by about two years.

I can say for sure that Gorthor of the Cave People (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=379) was the first game released that used the Windows editor.

Quote from: AGA on Mon 04/10/2010 18:32:12
I can say for sure that Gorthor of the Cave People (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=379) was the first game released that used the Windows editor.

Nice fact! Added to the list:)

Lol, this thread has turned into an AGS version of QI...

STEPHEN FRY: Now, what was the very first AGS game released?
ALAN DAVIES: Lassi Quest.
STEPHEN FRY: Oooooohhhhh!

*BRUUUM, BRUUUUUUM!*

(Sorry, extremely Anglo reference..)

I think that a cool AGS fact could be all the members of the forum that have some variation of "Chasing the Dream" under their avatar.