Adventure Game Studio

I've pasted Sony's press release below, and after that I'll explain what it means for you guys.
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Sony Europe PR-20070401/A

Sony signs exclusive deal to bring adventure gaming to PS3

LONDON, ENGLAND, 1st April 2007 - Sony Corporation, recognised world leader in consumer gaming, today signed an exclusive contract with BigBlueCup LTD -- the company responsible for the development of the Adventure Game Studio software suite -- to bring its adventure game creation software to the PlayStation (R) 3 gaming platform. This will open up the world-beating PlayStation (R) 3 console to run both commercial and "homebrew" games created with the AGS software.

Justine Kiding, spokeswoman for Sony Europe, said "This is a fantastic opportunity for gamers and game creators alike, as a whole new genre of games are made available to PlayStation owners. For game authors, it will open up an entirely new market of PlayStation (R) 3 gamers who will be able to buy Sony-approved AGS games through the new PlayStation Home internet service."

Chris Jones, the author of Adventure Game Studio and head of BigBlueCup LTD, said "I'm thrilled to finally be able to reveal this agreement, which has been in negotiation for several months. By converting AGS to work only with PlayStation (R) 3 consoles, game authors will have access to an exciting new market of gamers that has plenty of room for expansion. It also provides a secure platform that is not subject to the piracy worries that are faced by developers for the PC."

A new version of the Adventure Game Studio software, supporting the PlayStation (R) 3, is due to be released later this month, and conversions of several popular existing games such as the Ben Jordan series and Apprentice are expected to follow shortly afterwards.

ENDS
NOTES TO EDITORS
(1) The PlayStation (R) 3 console is the newest, most advanced games console available today. With a fast-growing user base it is expected to overtake the sales of Bravia 42" HDTV's by the end of Q4 2007.
(2) Adventure Game Studio is a software package, founded in 1999, that allows people to make their own adventure games. Over 700 games have been produced to date, with more being released every week. It can be found at http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk

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So what does this mean to us as AGS users?

As of AGS 2.8, the AGS Editor will still be a Windows application but it will only create games for the PS3. A development kit will be available for easily testing your games on your PS3 console.
Unfortunately under the terms of the exclusive contract, I am not allowed to develop the Windows version (or any other ports) any further; so you will no longer be able to create Windows EXE files, and the Mac and Linux ports will not be able to run new games.
AGS 2.72 will still be available for people who want to make Windows games to continue doing so, however there will be no further updates to this version.

Doesn't this mean that the re-write of the editor was a waste of time?

Not at all! In fact, the main reason for the porting of the editor to .NET was to allow it to incorporate compiling games for the PS3. The Windows game engine has not undergone any recent updates because it is being totally re-written for the PS3, which will become clear in the new version when it is released at the end of April.

What is BigBlueCup LTD?

In order to sign a contract in the business world, I needed to create a limited company and transfer the AGS copyright to this company. But don't worry, I'm its only employee!


Your feedback on this is welcome. I know that some of you will be disappointed with this decision, but I hope you all appreciate the fanstastic opportunity that this brings to you as game developers!

Great news!
Presumably the games will be available as part of the download service.
[EDIT] Oh, I see Ms Kiding answered that already.

Oh man, this sounds pretty cool. I can't wait to be able to see AGS games in high def!

That's great! I'm glad I waited and bought a PS3 instead of a Wii.

Will the games for AGS PS3 be in higher resolutions? I didn't fork out good money for a HDTV just to play low resolution games on it. I want 1080p, or at least 720p minimum.

I'll stick with the old version because I only have a Wii and a PS2 and no plans to get a PS3

Good news for you I guess!

How will we get hold of devkits, and how much will they cost? It's an interesting move, I must say, I didn't think Sony would actually listen, but they seem to genuinely want interesting indie stuff for their download service.

By the way, is any of the 3d hardware going to be made use of in the PS3 port?

Edit: Why PS3 by the way? AGS on microsoft's XNA would be nice too... hope you're getting paid!

I was personally on hoping for a contract with Nintendo.  I'd had some cracking ideas for Wii-mote based puzzles.  I'm going to have to completely rethink them now.

Is this going to integrate with Home somehow? Like, you can meet people and play the games together somehow?

Quoteand conversions of several popular existing games such as the Ben Jordan series and Apprentice are expected to follow shortly afterwards

Also, dibs on making my Home character look like Ben Jordan.

There's always the sixaxis, renal shutdown.

Does that mean you're finally gonna make some money out of this whole AGS thing, CJ? You sure deserve it!

Wow, this is exactly what Sony needs to win this generation of consoles.

Hmm, I wonder if Microsoft/Nintendo will try sign up SLUDGE/Wintermute now?

Will we be able to use the innovative SIXAXIS controller or will be purely usb keyboard and mouse?  I hope we can, I'd just love to see how BJ would implement all that twisting and turning.

Guess I will be going into my student overdraft overall!

Quote from: scotch on Sun 01/04/2007 00:11:25
How will we get hold of devkits, and how much will they cost?

The PSone and PS2 had games made by anyone.  Sony's a cash magnet.  They'll throw out the Devkits and just rake in a share of our profits.

CJ, do we have to release the stuff thru BigBlueCup Ltd, or thru Sony directly?  In either situation, how do we get paid, if at all?

Eric:
WTF is a sixaxis? Is it as naughty as it sounds?

QuoteWill the games for AGS PS3 be in higher resolutions? I didn't fork out good money for a HDTV just to play low resolution games on it. I want 1080p, or at least 720p minimum.

Well, AGS will be modified to support 1280x1024; and this will then be run through filters on the PS3 to upscale the graphics to full HD quality.

QuoteHow will we get hold of devkits, and how much will they cost?

They'll be available from Sony, but the price is currently commercially sensitive information so I can't really talk about it yet.

QuoteBy the way, is any of the 3d hardware going to be made use of in the PS3 port?

Yes, AGS will be making full use of the 3D hardware to improve performance. But as adventure games are 2D, don't expect to notice too much difference here!

QuoteCJ, do we have to release the stuff thru BigBlueCup Ltd, or thru Sony directly?  In either situation, how do we get paid, if at all?

I'll provide more information in the coming weeks, but basically you'll go through Sony directly, and they'll take a cut of the game price for their services.

Quote from: Renal Shutdown on Sun 01/04/2007 00:20:18
Eric:
WTF is a sixaxis? Is it as naughty as it sounds?

It's Sony's Emmy award winning (http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/corporate_news/release/27668.html) game controller supporting a full six degrees of freedom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_freedom).

I'm gonna go sulk in a corner now because CJ didn't answer my question, the one that showed him how much I cared for his work.

<goes sulk in a corner because CJ didn't answer his question, the one that showed him [CJ] how much he [Pires] cared for his [CJ's] work.>

Do you get a cut of that profit, too, CJ? Or are you just getting an upfront contract?

What's the res for HD anyhow, as it's getting upscaled from 1280x1024?


In other news, I'm now not going to Mittens this year, as I've just ordered my PS3.

Scotch, M0ds, everyone else who owes me favors, get your pants on: It's pay day.
At least the upped resolution means I won't have to reduce the sketches and pixellise anymore, I can just paintover.

Also, what's the situation on 3d sprites on 2d-ish backgrounds, a la Resident Evil?

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An Emmy?  The TV version of the Oscars?  How the hell did they win one of those?

Hm.. I guess I'll find out what all the fuss is about in a few days.

I'd been hearing rumors of this ... Glad to see it FINALLY happened!

I mean, the future is HD!!

Does this mean that the deal I was hearing rumors about with Nintendo has fallen through?  I was really hoping to port Linus onto the DS...

Dude, but the 360 roxors teh consolorx. What have you done?!


I'm thinking about leaving the ags community, indefinitely.  :'(

Wow, great thing! Too bad the PS3 is way too expensive for me :( I guess I'll have to wait.

Will scripting on PS3_AGS be the same as on the PC or will it be much more difficult?

Wow, how awesmoe! :D

And thanks to Sony's microtransaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_3#PlayStation_Network) policy, I can start charging people to play my games!

The internet is finally paying off!

Cha-ching!

That's great news - I'm a fan of PS and AGS and adventure games so this is like a dream come true - but I'm a little puzzled about how the actual implementation will be done. Well, wait and see, I guess.

Quote from: nihilyst on Sun 01/04/2007 01:13:09
Will scripting on PS3_AGS be the same as on the PC or will it be much more difficult?

Unfortunately, the PS3's multi-core processor will inevitably make coding more difficult. Game developers may have to cut down on complex puzzles and sophisticated stories that are simply too hard to program. However, the increase in graphics rendering capability and multimedia performance will more than make up for the inconvenience. This is great news for AGS!

Quote from: Snarky on Sun 01/04/2007 01:53:47

Quote from: nihilyst on Sun 01/04/2007 01:13:09
Will scripting on PS3_AGS be the same as on the PC or will it be much more difficult?

Unfortunately, the PS3's multi-core processor will inevitably make coding more difficult.

This is why I bankrolled Scotch's help a couple of years ago, I knew back then an evolution to console was in the works (admittedly, I didn't think it was going to be to our new-found friends at Sony).  He's studying some kind of code based crapola at uni at the moment, and he owes me a holiday.  It's either program for my shiny new PS3 or send me to Canada.  As a fellow tight-wad, I know which he'll pick.  Expect a game by the end of the year. "PS3"n15h award, here we "come".

*Chortle*.

Etc.

"Nob". (Hee).

Quote from: Renal Shutdown on Sun 01/04/2007 03:35:28
"PS3"n15h award, here we "come".

Tasteless as that was... ROFL!  ;D

edit: I only just noticed the implications of the sixaxis (sorry, brain is particularly sluggish this morning). So is there support for the sixaxis?? That would be completely awesome. And what about good old gun controllers? Can we incorporate FPS in adventure games too?

I tried the gun-dealie for the PS2.  I hope our little corner of gaming survives without having to resort to "point at screen and press button".

Hope, but not expect.

Sadly.

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Tasteless as it was, I'm glad someone got it.  Kudos, my dear.

Actually, the reason why I was asking is that I don't particularly like the controls on console adventure games. The gun controller is the closest to a mouse for consoles: you have a cursor on screen, and you can move it around freely. Quite literally "point and click". And it would mean that tense action moments can be incorporated seamlessly. The timed action sequence is a staple of adventure games... you know what I mean, those short tense moments where you have like 3 seconds to press a tiny little button or shoot a faraway target to stop the end of the world (or at least the death of your character). With a gun controller, these action scenes could be better integrated. I think so, anyway.

Either that or I have a fetish for guns. Probably both.

Most of the PnC games I've enjoyed, have been more about the puzzles than anything. (This could change with Drugs Bust).  Even so, they've still been story driven.  Action-esque reflexes haven't played a great part since Space Quest V.

Sure, the VGA remake of SQ1 had those reflexes, but I never finished that.

I prefer the non-death, "think about it, no, think a bit harder" style of gameplay that Lucasarts has offered in the past.  It's just my apathetic attitude to everything kicking in again, I think.

I can understand the possible need for an timed action sequence now and then, as long as there's some kind of warning beforehand.  IE, you're a cop, there's a timed shooting range you've been ordered to go to. NOT, you're a cop, it's thursday, SHOOT 25 HEADSHOTS in 30 seconds or be suspended.  I'd like to prepare for an "exciting" section, personally.  (SQ1 = get on bike/ride bike around stuff - not - get to planet be on bike dodging stuff).

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Fetish for Guns?  We should totally hook up. I have a fetish for people.

Sure, I'm not saying to turn AGS into shoot-em-ups (although there's nothing wrong with that, given the number of RPGs that are being made with AGS even now). I agree with all that you said about puzzles being more important in adventure games than action sequences. It's just that with AGS going to console, I'm suggesting that the gun controller is more intuitive than the usual game pad controller to an adventure gamer who's used to a mouse, since it works basically in the same point-and-click way. It just has the added bonus of being in the shape of a gun, so people who might want to include these action sequences could do so seamlessly. Also, it does mean that adventure games need some rethinking.

We're talking about the possibility of the revival of the adventure game genre to a generation of PS3 gamers whose closest experiences with adventure games are stuff like Resident Evil and Silent Hill, not to mention those other Nintendo-based adventure games that were being discussed in the other thread. I think we AGSers have to start thinking about different ways of designing adventure games. The old rules of more puzzles, less action etc. still hold for PC-based games, but we might want to start thinking about a new set of rules for PS3-AGS games, that allow for more action-oriented gameplay while still retaining the puzzle element as the defining feature of the adventure game genre.

So you're saying that the Insult Swordfighting in Monkey Island wasn't the shizznits?

Quote from: auriond on Sun 01/04/2007 05:32:02
It's just that with AGS going to console, I'm suggesting that the gun controller is more intuitive than the usual game pad controller to an adventure gamer who's used to a mouse, since it works basically in the same point-and-click way.

As much as the Console-Gun-Thing might be close to a mouse, I think we've got the chance to completely revolutionise the "Point and Click" genre with a next/next gen console port.  The possiblities with more than just the vertical and the horizontal as controlling axis alone has blown the genre wide open.  It's not just point and click, it's at the very least "think, point then click".

Oh, hell yes.
If you're serious about this, CJ, then you ,sir, are a god!
Finally, the ability to really make my own video games...

Quote from: Renal Shutdown on Sun 01/04/2007 05:55:51
The possiblities with more than just the vertical and the horizontal as controlling axis alone has blown the genre wide open.  It's not just point and click, it's at the very least "think, point then click".

Of course, that sort of depends on whether AGS PS3 will really support that sixaxis thingy.

So will it?? Someone?? Anyone??

I certainly hope it does.
Can someone link me to Sony's official press release?

It's already Sunday here in Japan, so the press release probably won't be updated on Sony's official site until tomorrow morning when the business day starts.  Just be patient.

I don't know much about consoles, but I understand this is big news.

I mean, a thread has to be special when it got posts by Esseb, Pesty AND Ghormak in it.

Quote from: Vince Twelve on Sun 01/04/2007 07:46:44
It's already Sunday here in Japan, so the press release probably won't be updated on Sony's official site until tomorrow morning when the business day starts.  Just be patient.

Japan? I thought the contract was with Sony Europe. The Japanese site wouldn't have it. So we'd have to wait till Monday England time (if I'm not wrong, the Europe branch of Sony's Playstation entertainment arm is based in England).

Awesome!
Perfect!
Rad!
Incredible!
Lovely!

111!!11!!!!

uhkj

I'm just... lost for words!

This is cool 8).

Though I will probably not get a PS3 in a long while :'(.

It is pretty cool but I personally am quite dissapointed. I'm not gonna have a PS3 in a long time and I wouldn't want to make games for it anyway. Ah, I'll just stick with the old version.

Although I am quite interested in hearing how the adventure games would work on a PS3? Would it still be point and click and how would that be implemented?

This truly is a changing day in AGS' life.

Meh. I want AGS for Sega Megadrive. ;D

AGS for Sega Megadrive?? sounds awesome!
Why not have it for Sega Master System to?

That would be great! :P.

I don' t agree at all. Consoles are for wanker teenages with acné, and AGS has never been that.

Well... It wasn' t.  :-\

hihihihi.

I guess we'll just have to form a splinter group and take the old AGS underground, Flood the market with classic AGS just to pee Sony off  ;)

If you build in a small exploit, this will be the selling point for the PS3, let me tell you. It's what's keeping the PSP alive. Nice one Justine Kiding! (http://www.ticketspecialists.com/concert/concerts_img/april-fools-day.jpg) ::)

But why stop there? Look at ScummVM, it's everywhere. We need total domination over every gaming platform!

Can't wait to play 2010: World of Chaos and A Nigga's Revenge on the big HD screen. Am buying a PS3 tomorrow, that's for sure.

Right, I just bought a PS3 for this, so you better not be pulling my leg, CJ! Otherwise you owe me £424! ;)

Quote from: Nacho on Sun 01/04/2007 11:38:27
I don' t agree at all. Consoles are for wanker teenages with acné, and AGS has never been that.

Well... It wasn' t.  :-\

hihihihi.

I totally disagree. I was a teenager with acne when I started using AGS, like most people here.

Heh, that was actually pretty funny...    ::)

Quote from: Helm on Sun 01/04/2007 14:01:50
I was a teenager with acne when I started using AGS, like most people here.

I still am, except for the being a teenager and having acne parts.

This great news CJ. Congratulations. I have couple of questions:

- With dev kits, Are we going to be able to test our games without any problem in Windows XP SP3 and Wista ?

- Can AGS fans continue to develop AGS 2.72 ? I don't want AGS PC version to die :(

- This is not 1st April joke right ?  :)

Yarr.
Finally something on the way to the world domination. Sweet.

I still get the sneaking suspicion that this is an April Fools joke. Justine Kiding is extremely close...to Just Kidding.
On the other hand, maybe you're serious and just changed peoples names and timed this...

I think he's serious. I was browsing around the Sony website and saw an article that referenced this.

I'm pretty sure it's an April fools joke and if it's not, ill be disappointed. I'm not buying a ps3 and want to get updates for ags and I'm sure sometime later today he's going to say April fools.

I have a way better place to spend my non-existing 700-or-so euros.

Who needs the new version anyway? 2.72 is powerful enough for the PC as it is, won't take long after it's full drop from support to some underground operative to write a neat little proggy to add hardware acceleration runtime, and AGS for the PC will live, no matter CJ does with his provisions.

Quote from: joelphilippage on Sun 01/04/2007 18:20:49
I'm pretty sure it's an April fools joke and if it's not, ill be disappointed. I'm not buying a ps3 and want to get updates for ags and I'm sure sometime later today he's going to say April fools.

Have you not seen the official sony press release? It was on the uk news (BBC) this morning, regard as pretty big news for us brits!

Hehe, it's well past mid-day now so it's about time that I confirmed that yes, this is indeed teh April Fool. Don't worry, I have no plans to sell out and stop making AGS for Windows ;)

Thanks to everyone who played along, and no thanks to the couple of people that tried to spoil it by posting "April Fools" ... your cards are marked  :=

Ha! I was Right!

Oh noes!

I was soo foooled.  :'(

Quote from: joelphilippage on Sun 01/04/2007 19:08:38
Ha! I was Right!

wow...
what an achievement  ::)

I came here today to check for this april fool. I can't believe anyone fell for this one... Though I guess its easier to believe this than Google's TiSP  :P

Well, I guess I can now safely post without having my posts deleted pointing out this was all a joke.  ;D

"Justine Kiding"? :P

When one of those aforementioned deleted posts saying "This is a joke!" were deleted, I wrote:

"Spoilsport!"

Then the post was immediately deleted, leaving me to quickly edit my post. It won't let you post an empty message, so I typed:

"uhkj"

Then added afterwards:

"I'm just... lost for words!"

Phew!

This was the crappiest April Fool's joke ever. As soon as I read the thread title I groaned.

QuoteThis was the crappiest April Fool's joke ever. As soon as I read the thread title I groaned.

More effort next year CJ, April fools Jokes are serious business.

Alliance made me laugh!  :P  ;D

lol.. well you had to expect some people would post saying it was a joke!

Good job :P

last years was better.
the wintermute thing just had everyone going crazy.
i think the wintermute guys even played along!
:=

oh bollox.. and i had the Splinter League Adventure Game Studio T shirts printed up and everything :P

nice one CJ, i cottoned on quite quickly.. i checked the date lol

Looked rather convincing to me. ;D If it had not been for "Justine Kiding"... ;)

A slight haha at everybody who believed it. Though the idea is nice, small downloadable games is something sony's home'll need. Who's mailing them? :P

It's a good thing I'm not in charge.  I'd ban everyone who tried spoiling it for at least a month.

Then I'd ban them again mid-March next year, so they don't have the chance to be asses again.

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This was the crappiest April Fool's joke ever. As soon as I read the thread title I groaned.

..And yet you still continued to tried to spoil it for others.  Shameful.

I liked it.  :)

It needed a bit more "proof", though. The forum banner could've been changed to "Sponsored by Sony", or something similar.

Still a good one.

But people who spotted it from the off should've kept quiet. Tsk!  >:(

The real April Fools are the ones who called it out as a prank, not those who were tricked.

And remember to be yourselves, THAT'S whats really cool.

Ah well...I was actually hoping that I could play AGS games on my PS3. That would rock.

I apologize for my earlier post referring to this as an April Fool's joke. It was not my intention to spoil the fun for anyone. I actually thought it would be fun for people to debate whether or not it was a joke and then all have a laugh at the end of the day.

I tried to call it out as a joke, and then later played along. Does this mean I get thanks but my cards are marked anyway?

:P

oh well, life's hard I guess.

No, it means you thought you were being clever and later realised that everyone was already more so than you, and you backpedaled.

Quote from: Renal Shutdown on Sun 01/04/2007 22:05:48

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This was the crappiest April Fool's joke ever. As soon as I read the thread title I groaned.

..And yet you still continued to tried to spoil it for others.  Shameful.

There we go again, picking on the short, green, pointy-eared one.

I deleted about 6 of them SteelDrummer.

AGS totally fits the wii better anyway, point and click with the wiimote should be better than thumbsticks.

Quote from: MrColossal
I deleted about 6 of them, Steel Drummer.

Yeah, I know.  :D

Again, It's a good thing I'm not in charge, Yodaman.

I only posted it twice before realizing I got a private message from CJ telling me not to ruin the joke. I only posted it twice because I thought it was some glitch not entering my post, only to find out one of the mods was deleting them after that private message. Then I posted again just stating I love this topic and it got deleted for no reason.

Oh and I'm glad this stays on PC. Consoles are horrible trying to play point and click Adventure games. I know this by playing Myst on Sega Saturn and Maniac Mansion on NES. I also don't like the PS3 or Wii. I only like the Xbox 360, but even I wouldn't want it on Xbox 360 because like I said before this genre does not work well on consoles. If its one thing I perfer playing video games on PC is point and click Adventure games and Strategy games like Age of Empires.

Quote from: Steel Drummer on Mon 02/04/2007 15:40:35
:D I know. I posted so many to annoy the mods. ;)

Congrats, you've officially annoyed the mods. There's a special list for people like you, and it takes a darn lot of good behaviour to be removed from that list.

ha ha!
yodaman's in trouble!

Something tells me that you're in that list too, Hammerite...

Quote from: Pablo on Mon 02/04/2007 21:36:55
Something tells me that you're in that list too, Hammerite...

What is this list you're talking about? ???

Look at the post 3 above yours. I think Andail may be joking. Oh great, now i'm going to be on the list.  :)

I don't give a %^*@$ what the mods think of me. And I don't know what the forums were like back in the EZBoards era, but Raggit and I were chatting a while ago, and he said that everything was a lot more laid back.

For example, when I went through that period of parodying users/usernames, I didn't mean any harm by it, I thought it would be a little bit of fun. Quite a few people got upset by it (*cough* Vince *agghhh* Twelve *gaggg*), and someone even PMed me over it (negatively). 

Take another example: VintageDemon/AzureWolf. Most users hated him (I didn't particularly like him, either), but he was just trying to fit in around here like a regular member. Sure, he used to post about 20 times a day, but who cares? (I'm sorry, AzureWolf, for posting that nasty thread about you, but I was in a moment of stupidity when I posted that, and I apologize)

And once again, back to me. About 1-2 years ago I said I didn't like gay people, and the whole forum got in an uproar. That thread I posted about a game turned into a lengthy discussion about homophobia, sexuality, and similar topics. Most of you probably still hate me. When I posted that comment about gays on a site's guestbook, I wasn't really thinking about the implications it would have. It's not gays I hate, it's their lifestyle I hate. I think gays are sometimes viewed as outsiders to the human race. Despite my hatred of their sexuality, I still think they should be treated as others are treated- equally. However- this is where the real controversy lies- I do NOT think that they should receive special funding in America from companies like Ford, Wal-Mart, etc. That is definitely NOT equality. It would be the same as sponsoring people who aren't gay. 

Sorry for getting this off-topic. I'm finally getting an opportunity to vent how I feel and I've seized the chance.

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Again, It's a good thing I'm not in charge, Yodaman.

I may as well say now, that I'm sick of people referring to me as Yodaman. I could, I'd change that name from appearing in my profile when users click on it (like VintageDemon did. How did you, by the way, if you're reading this). As Vader said: "That name no longer has any meaning for me."

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Zooty, need you constantly resort to sarcasm, downright meanness, and derogatory comments in all of your posts? No wait, don't answer that. I already know what you're going to say.

It probably is easier to write yodaman than steel drummer (2 words with double letters both) further more all of us seem to remember you as yoda. No real harm really... my initial nick (chekc my profile) was nikolasideris. Go ahead and write it... :p thus I changed it to nikolas. Much easier, no? eitehr way people had already started calling me nikolas...

I wouldn't give a shit what mods think of me either, well done on you there!

what do you know of the mods really? I've not been around for much longer than you (maybe even less, dunno really), but I think that the mods are doing a hell of a job keeping the place clean and working for people with dial up. some rules simply make sense: don't quote the persona above you, don't use bmps etc...

This is the AGS community not the program, and nobody gives a shite if you (not you per se, but you as anybody) has worked on a game or not. The mods around here have prioven their faither,hard work and sensible thinking for many years.

What gives you the right to come and spoil the april fool joke by CJ? Or Dave? Or Peder? OR anybody actually. Who are you? Why do it? Because you think it's laim? Then don't read it anymore!

I was pretty much laughin at every nick you chose to parodise and if you remember I would like you to parodise mine (there was a post about it). I'm not sure if Vince was exactly angry, but the pic I saw with the nacked man was pretty growse to be honest... Other than that no problem...

Nobody hates anybody here. And you opened a thread/discussion about the vintage demon (now known as azure wolf). I have him on MSN (though he's usually off line nowadays). He was pretty annoying but stoped posting. That was good. dont' you agree?

I actually don't even remember any thread by you, and it's a pity that the forums do not support "threads started by..." function. I'd love to see and remind myself. Your first game, which I did check was rather bad, sorry to say.

I have a pretty good idea on what renal would like to do (see? renal without the shutdown... ;))

You can't change the name of which you registed, unless you register again.

and this, I think concludes my attempt to answer all your questions and your post in general.

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I actually don't even remember any thread by you

See, that's the problem. You, like many others, (in the past, at least) have probably just ignored any threads I started. I don't mind Renal Shutdown much. I was reading the old 8 Page 'Boner' thread (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=25725.0) (the Bone: Out From Boneville thread  that got way off topic), and Renal had the same attitude now as (h/sh)e did back then. I actually had a pretty good game
(http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=26753.0) in progress at one point (which I quit making because of a hard drive erm.. malfunction). I recently found some of the old character art that lo_res_man had did laying around my hard drive (I didn't post any of that in the GiP thread before the hard drive crash). I'll probably update the thread when I get around to it. 

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I was pretty much laughin at every nick you chose to parodise and if you remember I would like you to parodise mine (there was a post about it). I'm not sure if Vince was exactly angry, but the pic I saw with the nacked man was pretty growse to be honest... Other than that no problem...

Oh, sorry. If I had known I would have parodied it. I'll parody you as soon as possible, which is probably once I'm done posting this... From now on, I think I'll only parody by request (via PM), so as not to get anyone upset. That was pretty immature of Vince to change the pic, and I too was grossed out by it. Maybe that was some of Vince's gay porn. := 
Ya know, maybe I'll just start parodying people at random again...

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Nobody hates anybody here. And you opened a thread/discussion about the vintage demon (now known as azure wolf). I have him on MSN (though he's usually off line nowadays). He was pretty annoying but stoped posting. That was good. dont' you agree?

You kind of contradicted yourself there. First: 'Nobody hates anybody else here'. Then: 'It was good that TheVintageDemon stopped posting.' I know that you aren't specifically saying you hate TVD, but you're implying that you do. I'm neither happy or sad that he stopped posting. His posting habits were a quirky addition to the forum.

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Who are you?

Check out I avatar, mon! ;)

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It probably is easier to write yodaman than steel drummer.

Then call me Steel, Drum, Drummer, Steelio, Steel Beast, Snare Drum- whatever, I don't care, I just don't want to be called Yodaman any more, mon.

April Fool! LOL, Steel Drummer is actually DGMacphee. Oh I love these twists!!

I, for one, am appalled. I was genuinely hoping to play my AGS games on my PS3. This JOKE of a joke was an outrage to me, CJ!!

Also:

Quote from: Steel DrummerHow did I spoil it? Find one post where I denounce it as a joke (besides the one I quoted).

Quote from: Mr. ColossalI deleted about 6 of them, Steel Drummer.

Quote from: Steel DrummerAs if I didn't already know that. ::)

Maybe you could explain a little more. Do you want Eric to produce the six posts he deleted of you ruining the gag for everybody? Why would you ask "How did I spoil it" if you knew exactly how you did spoil it. LOGIC ERROR PLEASE TRY AGAIN.

Also also, nobody hates you. Get over yourself.

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April Fool! LOL, Steel Drummer is actually DGMacphee. Oh I love these twists!!

F***! m0ds why did you have to spoil the joke?

Yodaman (and why not yodaman, just yesterday I was surprised to see myself referenced as Redrum - Gilbot sure has a long memory!), chill out, and for heaven's sake cut it out.

So you've had teething problems in the community. Big freakin' deal. Many people do.

If you're STILL having problems, then it IS a problem, and it's *your* problem.

If people persist in bringing your past into the present, then it's either because they're joking or because they feel you didn't change at all.

Your last post sounds a perfect example of why you would be on that mythical "list". If you don't want to be treated the way you feel you're being treated, well, *don't keep on giving people the reasons to do it*.

Back ontopic, this april fool didn't fool me, but I was surprised at the inventiveness - nothing could top "AGS goes shareware!", but this was still very fun. Just wish I could have thought of something better to say.

Oh, and CJ, I'm still sulking!

<redruM is still sulking>

Ah, I remember when I was an angry n00b. I made like 80 posts a day, had 4 absolutely dumb games in production, begged for help with games, then begged to get on teams. I was grilled by everyone, until I learned to post maturely 4 years ago.
Learn to relax. This place is about LOVE, man.

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Maybe that was some of Vince's gay porn.

(http://www.thexiis.com/media/yodasurprise.gif)

You've got a weird idea of what constitutes gay porn.   :-*

Seriously though, you were doing so much better at fitting in and now this?

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This place is about LOVE, man.

Cut it with the hippie jabber, Alliance. The 60s were like sooooo last century.  ::)  (some one's been listening to a little too much Beatles)  ;D

Going to PM because... unnecessary.

[edit]oh sure, edit your post above mine to make this one look pointless...  regardless, issue was worked out in PMs.[/edit]

Bah humbug, enough of these dumb flamewars. We're all part of the AGS family.
And CJ? Will it ever come to PS3? Pretty please with cherries on top?

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Quote from: Steel Drummer on Mon 02/04/2007 15:40:35
:D I know. I posted so many to annoy the mods. ;)

Congrats, you've officially annoyed the mods. There's a special list for people like you, and it takes a darn lot of good behaviour to be removed from that list.

Yay, I'm on a list! 8) Do I get any special tax benefits?

Just because you don't think it's funny doesn't mean that it's not funny, Tiki.

Yodaman, please stop trying to be funny and edgy.  I would appreciate it, thanks.

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Bah humbug, enough of these dumb flamewars. We're all part of the AGS family.

I couldn't agree more.
Why don't we just forget about whatever off-topic rambling was going on, and:
"Stay on target!"
-Gold Leader

PS3: I doubt AGS would be good on PS3. As mentioned before, Point N Click translates horribly to consoles. I'd also add that most console gamers think that 'pixel art' sucks, and that "if it's not 3d, then the graphics are crap." Games like Grim Fandango might be good on something like PS3, but I think the lack of in-depth control limits the ability to play most adventure games. The Wii could possibly be good for adventures, but it would still be a bit clunky. Does anyone remember that SNES Mouse? That could've work to play adventure games. If only they'd do something like that on next-gen...  :P
 

Quote from: Nicholas (with a 'ch, not a 'k) on Tue 03/04/2007 05:03:36Does anyone remember that SNES Mouse? That could've work to play adventure games. If only they'd do something like that on next-gen...  :P

Well, most next-gen consoles have one or more USB ports (PS2, PS3, Xbox360). Plugging in a mouse is as easy as pie. And getting it to work in your homebrew software shouldn't be that hard, either... :)

Quote from: Nicholas (with a 'ch, not a 'k) on Tue 03/04/2007 00:21:44

Zooty, need you constantly resort to sarcasm, downright meanness, and derogatory comments in all of your posts? No wait, don't answer that. I already know what you're going to say.

Oh gosh I'll indulge you.


Yes. Yes I do.

Yodaman/Steeldrummer/Nicholas/Whatever

You're a disrespectful, spoiled brat who abuses the hospitality of this community. Despite so many chances, you still have no idea how to behave, how to treat your fellow forum members or the moderators.
I suggest you take a break from the forums and refrain from posting for a while, so you can consider your behaviour.

If people wish to continue discussing consoles, I propose you start a new thread, because this one is quite infected.