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Title: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(Winner)
Post by: Dualnames on Thu 15/04/2010 01:16:30
After this April OROM, there will be a MAGS on May running along parallel with the voting on the April's entries. Due to the lack of votes the last time, unfortunately I have around 14 days to come up with a cool theme.

I'm thinking something loose and about the End of the World. But please post your ideas.
Please read all the themes and vote only once. Voting link down the page.


POLL
Themes to choose from:(in order of appearance)

1.Leon:
Title: No limits!
Quote from: Leon on Thu 15/04/2010 14:43:11
"No limits".

No theme at all. Just see what you can do within a month without limitations...

2.Ascovel:
Title: B-serious
Quote from: Ascovel on Thu 15/04/2010 17:34:22
"B-serious"

2 requirements:

- over the top, violent B movie type of story in an established pulp genre (horror, biker film, martial arts, chambara, spaghetti western etc.)

- the game needs to take itself completely seriously - no intentional humor allowed

3.ProgZmax:
Title: Complete your game (Title not a courtesy of ProgZ)
Quote from: ProgZmax on Fri 16/04/2010 03:07:35
How about a mags that encourages anyone with unfinished games from any era to complete them in a month (at least enough to be playable)?  This may attract the interest of people like me who have several 25-75% finished full length games that for whatever reason we've abandoned.  This way everyone wins even if there has to be a courtesy 'win'.

I believe chicky also mentioned extensive interest in such an event, and if mags does not do it I may host a separate event to get some of the older games that fell off the map back on.

4.Dualnames:
Title: Demakes!
Quote from: Dualnames on Fri 16/04/2010 09:26:26
Okay just an idea, someone might just like it.

What about demakes?

You know, no-limit, no nothing to stop you, no genre restriction as long as it's AGS and a demake(and apparently no team size limit to this one).
What's a demake?


Here's some wiki knowledge waiting for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_remake#.22Demakes.22


5.Crimson Wizard:
Title: Extreme NewbieGame Make-Over
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Fri 16/04/2010 13:44:25
Help newbie to make a game of his dreams!

Find an AGS newbie with cool game idea. Every participant makes a game based on newbie's scenario, regardless of how silly it is.  ;D


RESULTS HERE (http://www.yourfreepoll.com/bhmjcoxbsr.html)
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Eggie on Thu 15/04/2010 01:24:10
I'd kind of like to see a fan-fiction one actually. It's interesting to see how different talented authors handle stories and characters created by other talented authors; but most talented authors feel the need to create their own stuff so this would be a good excuse for those guys to try it out.

I know there's legal issues an' that but people wanting to avoid them could always chose a public domain property.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Questionable on Thu 15/04/2010 07:31:52
"1985"

Essentially the concept would be to either create a game that could exist on the hardware available before 1990, and/or make a game with a time setting during any point in the 80s.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Wonkyth on Thu 15/04/2010 07:37:35
"Backwards"
The more backwards things with the game still being playable, the better.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Leon on Thu 15/04/2010 14:43:11
"No limits".
No theme at all. Just see what you can do within a month without limitations...
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Kweepa on Thu 15/04/2010 15:42:09
Doctor Who.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Intense Degree on Thu 15/04/2010 15:57:13
"Outside"

All action in the game must take place outdoors.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Stupot on Thu 15/04/2010 17:04:50
Quote from: Questionable on Thu 15/04/2010 07:31:52
"1985"

Essentially the concept would be to either create a game that could exist on the hardware available before 1990, and/or make a game with a time setting during any point in the 80s.

For a minute there I thought you were planning to design a sequel to Orwell's 1984.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: blueskirt on Thu 15/04/2010 17:08:22
Under water.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Igor Hardy on Thu 15/04/2010 17:34:22
"B-serious"

2 requirements:

- over the top, violent B movie type of story in an established pulp genre (horror, biker film, martial arts, chambara, spaghetti western etc.)

- the game needs to take itself completely seriously - no intentional humor allowed
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Eggie on Thu 15/04/2010 17:55:24
That one! That one! That one! That one! That one! That one! That one! That one! That one!
I'll enter it!
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Bulbapuck on Thu 15/04/2010 18:03:28
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 15/04/2010 17:04:50
Quote from: Questionable on Thu 15/04/2010 07:31:52
"1985"

Essentially the concept would be to either create a game that could exist on the hardware available before 1990, and/or make a game with a time setting during any point in the 80s.

For a minute there I thought you were planning to design a sequel to Orwell's 1984.

Hahahahahaha ;D

On topic now: If there was voting, then I would vote for one of these:
Quote from: Leon on Thu 15/04/2010 14:43:11
"No limits".
No theme at all. Just see what you can do within a month without limitations...

and

Quote from: Ascovel on Thu 15/04/2010 17:34:22
"B-serious"

2 requirements:

- over the top, violent B movie type of story in an established pulp genre (horror, biker film, martial arts, chambara, spaghetti western etc.)

- the game needs to take itself completely seriously - no intentional humor allowed

Because, even though I probably wouldn't enter, I believe these would create interesting games.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: tzachs on Thu 15/04/2010 18:16:32
Since my previous idea for a MAGS was highly successful I believe I have a saying here...
I vote for B-Serious...
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Radiant on Thu 15/04/2010 22:56:35
I vote for anything with multiple playable characters. The character switch function is way underused in adventure games.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Fri 16/04/2010 03:07:35
How about a mags that encourages anyone with unfinished games from any era to complete them in a month (at least enough to be playable)?  This may attract the interest of people like me who have several 25-75% finished full length games that for whatever reason we've abandoned.  This way everyone wins even if there has to be a courtesy 'win'.

I believe chicky also mentioned extensive interest in such an event, and if mags does not do it I may host a separate event to get some of the older games that fell off the map back on.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Questionable on Fri 16/04/2010 05:07:39
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 15/04/2010 17:04:50
For a minute there I thought you were planning to design a sequel to Orwell's 1984.

Quit giving out ideas!
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Dualnames on Fri 16/04/2010 08:14:41
Quote from: ProgZmax on Fri 16/04/2010 03:07:35
How about a mags that encourages anyone with unfinished games from any era to complete them in a month (at least enough to be playable)?  This may attract the interest of people like me who have several 25-75% finished full length games that for whatever reason we've abandoned.  This way everyone wins even if there has to be a courtesy 'win'.

I believe chicky also mentioned extensive interest in such an event, and if mags does not do it I may host a separate event to get some of the older games that fell off the map back on.

I'm definitely seriously thinking this will be a great idea. In fact we talked this over on IRC, but then I just had lightning on my head, and the idea of OROM was spawned. But definitely thumbs up ProgZ again.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: FSi++ on Fri 16/04/2010 08:49:49
Quote from: Ascovel on Thu 15/04/2010 17:34:22
"B-serious"

2 requirements:

- over the top, violent B movie type of story in an established pulp genre (horror, biker film, martial arts, chambara, spaghetti western etc.)

- the game needs to take itself completely seriously - no intentional humor allowed

That.

Quote from: ProgZmax on Fri 16/04/2010 03:07:35
How about a mags that encourages anyone with unfinished games from any era to complete them in a month (at least enough to be playable)?  This may attract the interest of people like me who have several 25-75% finished full length games that for whatever reason we've abandoned.  This way everyone wins even if there has to be a courtesy 'win'.

Or that.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Jared on Fri 16/04/2010 09:06:26
Quote from: ProgZmax on Fri 16/04/2010 03:07:35
How about a mags that encourages anyone with unfinished games from any era to complete them in a month (at least enough to be playable)?  This may attract the interest of people like me who have several 25-75% finished full length games that for whatever reason we've abandoned.  This way everyone wins even if there has to be a courtesy 'win'.

Love it. Absolutely love it.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Dualnames on Fri 16/04/2010 09:26:26
Okay just an idea, someone might just like it.

What about demakes?

You know, no-limit, no nothing to stop you, no genre restriction as long as it's AGS and a demake(and apparently no team size limit to this one).
What's a demake?


Here's some wiki knowledge waiting for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_remake#.22Demakes.22
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Questionable on Fri 16/04/2010 10:50:21
Quote from: ProgZmax on Fri 16/04/2010 03:07:35
How about a mags that encourages anyone with unfinished games from any era to complete them in a month (at least enough to be playable)?  This may attract the interest of people like me who have several 25-75% finished full length games that for whatever reason we've abandoned.  This way everyone wins even if there has to be a courtesy 'win'.

The only issue I've ever had with this idea is that it alienate people that do not have partially completed projects and it would be little silly to say: you people that don't have any games, JUST MAKE ANYTHING! YAY!

Am I alone on this?
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: kaputtnik on Fri 16/04/2010 11:24:21
I actually think that this idea by Progzmax is so good, it should be an established and recurring MAGS theme. Almost anybody on these forums has some kind of unfinished game rotting along on his harddrive, never finished because of technical issues, lack of motivation, scheduling problems...

I also think that this might have been perfect to coincide with the easter holidays (most countries do have them, right?) to make for a nice holistic resurrection MAGS.

Well, maybe not. But the idea is great, and having one of those every year would mean much more great games with maybe tiny little flaws to play.

Also, Igor's serious B-movie theme is A+.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Chicky on Fri 16/04/2010 12:17:35
As ProgZ mentioned, i fully support the 'finish a GIP' idea. It would be great to keep it under the MAGS name though.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: OneDollar on Fri 16/04/2010 13:22:40
Progz's idea is a good one, but I don't know how suited to MAGS it is because some people will potentially have games they've abandoned after two years and other after two days. It still gets my vote though.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Fri 16/04/2010 13:44:25
Help newbie to make a game of his dreams!

Find an AGS newbie with cool game idea. Every participant makes a game based on newbie's scenario, regardless of how silly it is.  ;D
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Intense Degree on Fri 16/04/2010 15:04:15
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Fri 16/04/2010 13:44:25
Help newbie to make a game of his dreams!

Find an AGS newbie with cool game idea. Every participant makes a game based on newbie's scenario, regardless of how silly it is.  ;D

Now that is a brilliant idea! ;D
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: GarageGothic on Fri 16/04/2010 15:24:58
Quote from: Intense Degree on Fri 16/04/2010 15:04:15
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Fri 16/04/2010 13:44:25
Help newbie to make a game of his dreams!

Find an AGS newbie with cool game idea. Every participant makes a game based on newbie's scenario, regardless of how silly it is.  ;D

Now that is a brilliant idea! ;D

What would be even more brilliant would be turning it into a TV show, like Extreme Home Makeover - But with nerds!
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Ryan Timothy B on Fri 16/04/2010 15:31:52
Who would be considered a newbie?  Less than a year in the forums?  Calin Leafshade has been here less than a year, is he a newbie?

I encourage Progz's idea, even though there aren't any games that I left in production that I'm willing to resurrect.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Stupot on Fri 16/04/2010 15:45:41
I'm in the 'Finish a GIP' camp.  And also reckon it should be an annual event.  Would be cool to really plug it aswell,  Mags doesn't get many entries, but this should be seen annually as THE Mags to enter if you're going to enter at all.

If we can wait until summer, I'm in.  Bit bogged down with Uni work at the mo.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Fri 16/04/2010 15:55:52
Quote from: Ryan Timothy on Fri 16/04/2010 15:31:52
Who would be considered a newbie?  Less than a year in the forums?  Calin Leafshade has been here less than a year, is he a newbie?
You have a point there. But I mean "noob" type of a newbie  :)
That is - a random guy or girl who's relatively new to AGS forums and don't have enough skill and/or courage to actually start making a game.

Ofcourse, the newbie should willingly accept to share his idea with participants  ;D
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: GarageGothic on Fri 16/04/2010 16:29:19
I think it's a great idea, but I'm a bit worried about how it'll turn out in practice. The approach of making a game "regardless of how silly it is" very easily leads to parody and mocking of the idea - and even with the newbie giving permission, having ten people make games saying how rubbish your ideas are is not a cool welcome to the forums.

"Make it better!" would probably be a more constructive attitude, and probably allow for more variety in the end results.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Radiant on Fri 16/04/2010 16:35:08
Quote from: Dualnames on Fri 16/04/2010 09:26:26
What about demakes?
Oh, I loved the Tigsource Demake competition, and it made a few great hits like Eversion and LGIU. I think an AGS Demake Comp would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Intense Degree on Fri 16/04/2010 16:38:26
Well, you'd have to have rules or rough guidelines as to the ideas. I'm not sure how many RPG's with 10,000+ enemies could be made in a month?  ;)

Or I suppose it could even be taken in the direction of pairing up willing "noobs" and er... whatever it is you would call the other participants to share the work on the games. Not sure if/how that would really work in practice though.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Scarab on Mon 19/04/2010 05:14:58
My vote goes to ProgZ's.
Jut throwin' it out there :)
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Calin Leafshade on Mon 19/04/2010 07:11:28
I am still a newbie! I hold onto my newbie status until my 1000th post.

My game idea is about a guy called Gaybrush Humpwood and he meets a hoodoo man and together they take on a guy called Sephiroth.. err Rothiseph.

And theres a rubber chicken with a pulley on the left hand side!
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Tue 20/04/2010 06:36:02
QuoteProgz's idea is a good one, but I don't know how suited to MAGS it is because some people will potentially have games they've abandoned after two years and other after two days. It still gets my vote though.

It's nice to get a vote but you're 100% missing the point.  This isn't about 'winning or losing' it's about actually supporting and encouraging people who, for whatever reason, have strayed from one or more finished games and give them that big push to get something out the door and a sense of completion -- so who cares how far in development they are?  I'm sure there are enough unfinished games made by people here to fuel such an event for some time!

Again, it has fuck all to do with WINNING OR LOSING.  It's about encouraging the completion of stagnant projects so you can say 'God it's finally done' and take the millstone off your neck.  Reviving dead, partially complete projects is a reward  you receive when you get to play the game/actually finish it.  I can't imagine a better one.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Dualnames on Tue 20/04/2010 12:32:41
I said that it still gets my vote. Okay people, since it's not up to me anyway, and with knowing that you guys that posted actually have some preferences, here. I've listed those that have been mentioned at least twice in this topic.

So go here (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=40621.msg536976#msg536976), read what themes are chosen, and vote for your favorite.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: Igor Hardy on Tue 20/04/2010 12:53:08
Quote from: ProgZmax on Tue 20/04/2010 06:36:02
This isn't about 'winning or losing' it's about actually supporting and encouraging people who, for whatever reason, have strayed from one or more finished games and give them that big push to get something out the door and a sense of completion -- so who cares how far in development they are?  I'm sure there are enough unfinished games made by people here to fuel such an event for some time!

If this theme gets chosen, I'm very curious how many people will come back to their old, unfinished games, and what compromises in the design will they decide to make so that they can finish them quickly. Personally, I can't imagine leaving one project unfinished and moving on to another, unless the former one has proven to be more problematic than attractive.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(5 themes to choose from. Vote!)
Post by: kconan on Thu 22/04/2010 07:19:31
I vote for "complete your game".

Voted officially...No need to count this one.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(5 themes to choose from. Vote!)
Post by: Dualnames on Thu 22/04/2010 12:23:43
Quote from: kconan on Thu 22/04/2010 07:19:31
I vote for "complete your game".

Hey kconan, I'll sure add your vote if you can't visit this link somehow, but if you can, go here and put it yourself.

http://www.yourfreepoll.com/bhmjcoxbsp.html
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme
Post by: OneDollar on Thu 22/04/2010 21:51:15
Quote from: ProgZmax on Tue 20/04/2010 06:36:02
This isn't about 'winning or losing' it's about actually supporting and encouraging people who, for whatever reason, have strayed from one or more finished games and give them that big push to get something out the door and a sense of completion -- so who cares how far in development they are?

No, I get that. I was just wondering if the format was suited to MAGS, which is a competition, when as you say the topic isn't about winning or losing. If it gets voted it'll make an interesting topic and if it doesn't somebody should start it as its own activity.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(5 themes to choose from. Vote!)
Post by: Dualnames on Thu 22/04/2010 22:18:21
Well, there's been the release something thing, but people just got away with screenies. So this is like. Release a playable something version of that activity. Anyway, I'm going to close the vote on the 25th so carry on voting.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(5 themes to choose from. Vote!)
Post by: Dualnames on Mon 26/04/2010 22:53:42
Okay so we have a winner! ProgZ's theme!!

Complete your game!

ProgZ I'm going to let this very loosely based, as the OROM. If you want to re-shape the theme to spice it up, please do post here, or pm me!
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(Winner)
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Tue 27/04/2010 11:17:12
No, I only ask that everyone be encouraged to complete any game they've put on the side, no matter how close to completion it is.  If even one development hell game can be completed then it's worth it (chicky, Snake, I'm lookin' at you guys ._.).
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(Winner)
Post by: Jared on Wed 28/04/2010 04:57:20
What if we happen to have multiple games fairly close to completion, are we allowed to be crazy enough to attempt to finish a few of them in the space of a month?
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(Winner)
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Wed 28/04/2010 06:47:19
No, stick with one game you really want to complete and do it. :)
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(Winner)
Post by: Dualnames on Wed 28/04/2010 10:38:49
Oh, by the way, just forgot, if anyone's interesting, here's the heartwarming 42 votes results:

RESULTS HERE (http://www.yourfreepoll.com/bhmjcoxbsr.html)

WINNER THEME
3.ProgZmax:
Title: Complete your game (Title not a courtesy of ProgZ)
Quote from: ProgZmax on Fri 16/04/2010 03:07:35
How about a mags that encourages anyone with unfinished games from any era to complete them in a month (at least enough to be playable)?  This may attract the interest of people like me who have several 25-75% finished full length games that for whatever reason we've abandoned.  This way everyone wins even if there has to be a courtesy 'win'.

I believe chicky also mentioned extensive interest in such an event, and if mags does not do it I may host a separate event to get some of the older games that fell off the map back on.
Title: Re: Decide the about-to-be MAGS Theme(Winner)
Post by: Gilbert on Wed 28/04/2010 11:15:41
Also, if not mentioned before (I'm too lazy busy to read all the information here), I'll suggest that the topic could be 'complete your game, if you have a previously unfinished MAGS game, OR make a game following the guidelines of any previous MAGS competitions', provided you didn't enter that round at that time.

In this way, people who don't have an unfinished MAGS game could still participate in this round. (Well, actually it's like you pretend that you managed to create a game in a previous round and didn't finish it.)

For topics of the activity in the last few years, just check here (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=22522.msg306106#msg306106).