Well...AGS seems to not be the right program for me...due to the fact that Chris Jones has not even come up with a tool that has you check for latest updates in the program. AGS may be a little easier...but SCI Studio stands as an excellent program.
SCI Studio comes with the ability to...yes, compile your games into executables. But, a MS-DOS window like frame might cut for a lack of good graphical updates which are intended for the future. Windows Executable would help too, that would be good for choosing in when making the executable. If you are also smart, like me...then you would download the Graphic Studio as well...SCI Studio & AGS tie, but for some reason...SCI Studio is a little bit ahead of the competition.
Some people say that SCI Studio locks up on them...well, guess what...IT DOES NOT!
I would also like to add that, yes...you can create your own scenes & characters...but...guess what...with AGS, once you get done making them in Paint Shop Pro, MS-Paint, or whatever program you use...then you can import them into the editor.
SCI Graphic Studio is a wise download when using SCI Studio! In...SCI Graphic Studio...you are able to create your own characters, objects, scenes, etc.
Whenever you are done with that...then of course, it is time to take it to the studio & begin possibly either the long hours or months of production!
Pretty much...SCI Studio & Graphic Studio give you everything you need to make an excellent adventure game at your fingertips...weither you decide to use this or AGS, remember...that your imagination counts!!!
That is my latest review...thank you all for reading & happy gaming!
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Some people say that SCI Studio locks up on them...well, guess what...IT DOES NOT!
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It might not for you, but it certainly does for me. Not only does it lock up but it crashes repeatedly when I'm browsing through the animations in a game.
Otherwise I agree that SCI Studio is a great program, in fact one of the best out there. I just prefer AGS cause it's simpler to use for inept programmers like myself.
Well...obviously there MIGHT be some bugs that need to be fixed in SCI Studio...but otherwise it runs fine & I am sure that it must have been a programming error. The next update for SCI Studio should be coming soon...but in other cases, the program itself is ok.
I have a rebuild program that rebuilds corrupt SCI creations to act normally without any crash or error...it also helps with the studio as well.
So, pretty much...your best bet is to find it & download it, but KEEP IT in the same directory as your SCI Studio main files are, so you can find it quicker when need be.
Can SCI studio handle 32 bit images with alpha support and a 640x480 resolution with support for AVI or MPEG movie playback and MP3 sound and have one of the greatest communities ever backing it up?
Or is it possible that they really can't be compared because they at this point in time have two totally different missions in life?
I don't see what SCI Studio has that AGS can't do besides it's own art program which, frankly, isn't all that much since I would rather use a program I know, like photoshop, to create art and not have to learn an entirely new art package.
Differn't Strokes fo' Differn't Folks!
if SCI is so much better, then why waste our time posting here. I guess you SCI people are just jealous, thats all. All i can say is, if you don't like AGS, then get the Hell out of here!!
have a good day!!
BG
I say we gather up the AGS community and set up a time/place to meet the SCI community and we get into a huge rumble!!
C'mon guys!! I think we can take 'em!
At one point I downloaded SCI studio ... I think it was even before dl'ing AGS (or around the same time) ... I remember not liking it very much.
Then I downloaded AGS and the world just made sense.
** DM thumbs his nose at SCI Studio **
Hey man ... to each their own. But if they're smart, they'll use AGS ;)
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I never said I disliked AGS, I am just saying that SCI Studio has some better qualities than AGS.
I am not dissing AGS, if I waas then I would have had a title like..."AGS sucks balls!".
But, I didn't...I am just placing my opinion & review on SCI Studio...so quit cryin'!
Welcome to the AGS forums. I think you will enjoy your stay here.
Shawn :)
speak for yourself buffalogamer/get off his back
"If it's AGS or adventure-related, and it's not technical, it goes here."
that's at the top of this forum
so he's doing just fine
sorry MrColossal, maybe i jumped to conclusions. Sorry about that.
shawn :)
The more you use AGS, the more you'll love it.
Quite a few people here use both, they both have advantages in different areas, They are both cool products. At the moment I'd say AGS has a lot more features, but it depends whether you've donated money to Brian to get SCI studio 4 (I haven't so I'm not sure of the features), When that's finished and released publically it might gain a few more members hence lift the community out of a stale dribble.
The free support and community at AGS can't be beaten by any other engine, and the engine tries it's best to be backwards compatible with operating systems, SCI get a bit screwwy in Win98 after a while and has to be restarted or the computer reset.
As for the graphics studio, It doesn't have nearly the features of a proper paint program, I can't see any reason why that would be an advantage for promoting an engine.
I used SCI for a while a few years ago after using AGI, then discovered AGS, it seems to be a natural progression, I still have a softspot for SCI, and occasionally Anonymously post in their forums, but it hasn't been updated publically for a year or something, and it's not something I would pay for when I can get AGS for free that gets updated every few weeks, Thanks Heaps CJ.
Quote from: PhilRoberts2004 on Sun 04/01/2004 02:04:26
Well...obviously there MIGHT be some bugs that need to be fixed in SCI Studio...but otherwise it runs fine & I am sure that it must have been a programming error.
Whatever you say dude.
Anyway. I hope your games will be great and may you benefit from their success for a long time. Live long and prosper dude, you're a real comedian. :D
AGS seems to not be the right program for me...due to the fact that Chris Jones has not even come up with a tool that has you check for latest updates in the program.
What the hell? really? how fecking hard can it be to either check the home page for an official release or the forums for beta releases?
Grr.
Quote from: PhilRoberts2004 on Sun 04/01/2004 02:47:15
I am just saying that SCI Studio has some better qualities than AGS.
I've never used SCI, but if the features that make it better than AGS are update checker and internal paint program, well, that's not a great publicity, because the version checker of AGS consists on opening AGS website and the graphic editor could be one of the freeware draw programs that have a complete development team behind (gimp, pixia, draw plus...), so theres no sense to loose time developping an internal one IMO. If you don't tell me technical features it's difficult I will try SCI.
Quote from: PhilRoberts2004 on Sun 04/01/2004 01:24:16
SCI Studio comes with the ability to...yes, compile your games into executables.
mmmh... Totoro looks at the AGS-games he downloaded so far... finds that all are exe-files... strange ???, maybe done with SCI Studio just pretending to be AGS games ? ;)
Quote from: MrColossal on Sun 04/01/2004 02:13:30
Can SCI studio handle 32 bit images with alpha support and a 640x480 resolution with support for AVI or MPEG movie playback and MP3 sound and have one of the greatest communities ever backing it up?
800x600 thank yee very much :P
Quote from: PhilRoberts2004 on Sun 04/01/2004 02:47:15
I am not dissing AGS, if I waas then I would have had a title like..."AGS sucks balls!".
That would be the best title for a thread, only cause it has "balls" in it (followed by an exclamation mark).
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Sun 04/01/2004 02:36:01
I say we gather up the AGS community and set up a time/place to meet the SCI community and we get into a huge rumble!!
I'm apart of both... so who can I fight for? AGI? :P
Quote from: Os Último Quão Queijo ^_^ on Sun 04/01/2004 20:12:00I'm apart of both... so who can I fight for? AGI? :P
You can referee the contest!
I don't have much to say.. eh, I just think you're wrong.
Kudos for not flaming like a volcano everyone!
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Sun 04/01/2004 20:26:37
Quote from: Os Último Quão Queijo ^_^ on Sun 04/01/2004 20:12:00I'm apart of both... so who can I fight for? AGI? :P
You can referee the contest!
AGS hits the 800x600 resolution finisher! It's about to win when, Oh no, here comes SCUMM down the ramp with a folding chair, OMG!!! SCUMM slams the chair across AGS's face!
SCI drapes the arm over and 1... 2... and a reluctant 3 by Ultimo. Ultimo cries. :'(
I like SCI Studio too, but I tell the guys over at the SCI Studio Forum how much I like it, instead of wasting everyone's time here. And, no one there goes around telling them how they think AGS is much better.
And, shouldn't this be in the Gen-Gen forum?
It is adventure related so this is the correct forum for it.
Yes, you're right.
Tell that to m0ds. I moved PhilRoberts2004's upcoming SCI adventure from the upcoming games forum to this one, and he moved it straight to gen gen. f00.
Quote from: PhilRoberts2004 on Sun 04/01/2004 01:24:16
Well...AGS seems to not be the right program for me...(sic) due to the fact that Chris Jones has not even come up with a tool that has you check for latest updates in the program.
There is, however, a mailing list. On the downloads page, off to the right side, you can sign up for it and you get e-mails when the engine is updated.
Not everyone who posts here uses AGS. Erwin_Br is using Sludge for his game, for example. Female Squinky uses it as well, though she hasn't posted in ages. I'm sure there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Anyhoo, seeing as you have made some very mature posts and havn't been screaming "YOU SHOOD ALL YOUS SCI STOODIO CUZ IT ROXXORS AND AGS EATS PAINT AND MY GAM WILL HAVE 532532785 CARAKTERS AND MAK YOUR GAM LUK LIK STOOPID!" welcome to the AGS community. I hope you enjoy your stay.
Yeah, nobody here is flaming really, cause nobody hates SCI studio. We all appreciate the work he does on all those programs over there, and the work he does. Most of us have given it a try in the past, or use both engines. I used his font editor to create the 3 SCUMM Clone fonts.
So, in closing... my ovens on fire. Be back later.
Okay...
I didn't know about this SCI thing and I'll be checking it out since this thread.
On the other hand, it's a little unwise to tell an AGS community that SCI is BETTER than AGS. They both have their strong points. And the points you brought in favour of SCI were pretty dumb. I mean, "You know the way people say it locks up WELL IT DOESN'T!" being the first thing that caught my notice... I mean, did it not occur to that not everybody has the same computer, running at the same speed, with the same abilities.
Also, "Chris Jones hasn't even come up with a tool to check for updates" is a pretty sad point in favour of SCI, because as Dragonrose pointed out, there IS a mailing list, and whether or not there IS a update-check, this does not denote to the quality of the final program.
Perhaps you should have taken a more, "Hey guys, this is neat too!" stance rather than comparing them, on an AGS forum especially.
But I'll check it out anyway, because it sounds like there are a few interesting features alright. I have to say that one of the major plus' of AGS is that there is such a huge and tight-knit community, that is readily available to give help to newbs and such.
Anyhoo.
As far as I see, this is a total non-issue. AGS is a far superior program to SCI Studio, and there is a reason.
AGS is updated constantly and is not meant to restrict your style. You can make any type of adventure game you want.
SCI Studio has one specific purpose: to allow you to create old-looking, text-parser games in the code of old Sierra games. They are meant to be old! AGS is meant to be.... whatever you want it to be!
As for the graphics editor in SCI Studio, it leaves some to be desired. It is more complex than paint to figure out, but the end result is just the same. When I used SCI Studio (for a short time) I used a different graphics program anyway (namely Paintshop 5, at the time that was the version I had).