my top 5 of worst adventure games I played.
5-the dame was loaded: I don't know if this game is good or bad because IT CRASHES ON ALL THE COMPUTERS I HAD.
4-space quest 4: I tried a billion times to get into the shuttle and I got shot an equal billion times.
3- fort boyard. The person who made the puzzles should be hung.
2-ace ventura: I got an animal for you! bugs, bugs, bugs.
1- police quest. "Game Over" because you didn't check if all four tires are still under the car.
Hehehe my list (pun intended):
1. Rodekill - MATH PUZZLE!
2. Plegidfghdfioh - DA - How do I get the damn whistle?
3. Journey Home - Please, I want to blow that sailorman up!
Novo Meistro - It's so buggy that I cant see its endling.
5. Old Demo Quest - ROGER SUCKSKSKS!
;D
Hey JET, the only reason you get shot in space quest 4 is because your computer is too fast. this is a well knopw issue with the game. Other than the speed issues, SQ4 is one of the best adventure games ever made.
You're saying that my 90 Mhz computer is to fast?
That's the nicest thing someone said about my computer in 10 years.
What are we talking about here? Is Police Quest the worst game ever just because of a design flaw? Christ, I mean, they went overboard with the realism, but it's not like King's Quest where you're killed because you push a rock (actually solving a puzzles) from the wrong side! Game design was different in the early days, but it doesn't qualify a game as the worst ever!
So what are the criteria? Bugs, bad design? The problem with naming bad games is the same as naming bad movies. There are plenty of truly awful movies. The films of Ed Wood comes to mind. But often they have much more charm than the average action-movie-of-the-week. Even though Bureau 13 and Hell were terribly buggy and badly written, they were actually a lot of fun. Come to think of it, I'd rather replay Bureau 13 than go through Syberia another time.
Myst is, in my opinion, the Titanic of adventure games. A blockbuster. Hugely popular. But it bored me out of my mind. The only thing a game cannot be is boring. If it's supposed to enjoy and it doesn't, then that's an even bigger flaw than any design error or programming bug.
BUT I LOVED SQ4!!!11111 How can anyone hate it?? it was my favourite of all the space quest series. I guess you are entitled to your opinion, BUT YOUR OPINION SUCKS ;D!!!111 Seriously, you can't hate a whole game for something right in the beginning can you? You could have just used Moslo or something...thats what I did when I replayed it.
I can't really say I hated any of the adventure games I played. Myst was one of the lows, but once you had been playing for a while you got immersed into the game. However, I stopped playing it after a while due to the difficulty. Ahhhh... the days before internet and instant walkthroughs.
I can only think of 3:
Liath - terrible translation and a poor interface.
Return to Zork - Nice atmosphere, bad gameplay.
Chronicles of the Sword - awful plot.
Also... I LOVE MYST. I don't get bored because I play Myst games with my girlfriend. Apart from the occasional argument about navigation, it's great.
SQ4's thing with the shuttle was easily fixed when you adjusted your computers speed with an application, easily found when looking for SQ4 bugs. It is an annoying aspect to the game, (all the time isssues within it), but the game itself is a great game. And 90 Mhz is a good amount faster than when the game was originally released, so, yes, your system is fast, in context with it's relationship with Sq4. Mind you, it's not my favorite SQ (that would be III), but it was a great game, and it had such an appealing dark edge.
The Myst games, because as much as I enjoy puzzles, it seemed just a waste of time to flip a lever walk around for fifteen minutes before you see what that button did. But it did revoltionize the market graphically. It was nice eye candy back then, and while it may have had influence in the adventure game market going down, because of the push of bigger better graphics, it has added to a lot in other genres.
Other than that, I usually look at reviews for games before I buy them, so all my games are usually good games.
As far as in the AGS realm of hated games, I can only think of Rob Blanc. Not that it was horrible, it just seemed that it was being overpraised, for something that was only bleh. Larry Vales was a much better series.
-MillsJROSS
Just on SQ4 timer issues, it was only the cd talkie version that had those problems, the original floppy version had no problems. It was a funny phase that computers were going through that Sierra didn't foresee.
but trying to run it on a 1.5 Ghtz machine was impossible no matter how much slowing down you tried, I'd imagine my 2.6 Ghtz machine would be worse.
I have the CD version but I found out that the floppy version was worth 'acquiring' for fast machines.
I can't think of a worst list, out of a good bunch I'd have to say the KQ series.
I don't want to hurt nobody's feeling, but as this is related with the own oppinion of the people, I must say: Monkey Island 4.
The worst GA when I compare my expectations with the final product, IMO. Probably not the worst I've ever played (I remember one made by the guy of Police quest, which was not police quest...) But definitely the one which has dissapointment me most.
Quote- police quest. "Game Over" because you didn't check if all four tires are still under the car.
Haaa ha ha ha ha ha!
Curse of Enchantia.
5. Myst
I can see why so many people love it, and, if I wasn't thick as a brick, I might too. But I just didn't love it.
4. Death Gate
Okay, okay - this game was deffinatley cutesy and actually quite captivating and stuff, but, nuhh. It just got a bit boring after a while. Still, I'll never throw it away :)
3. Lost Eden
Shame, I did kind of enjoy this one. It just turned from an adventure into a something-elsey when you had to start fighting dinosaurs and crap. And that kinda ruined it for me.
2. The Feeble Files
It started off okay, but the game was just too big and confusing for me. The graphics weren't really to my liking and Feeble, well, was pretty Feeble imo. Good that they got Mr Llwellyn to do the voice tho.
1. Escape From Delirium
I didn't get the plot. I didn't get the puzzles. I didn't understand the poor English. I didn't like the death. I didn't like the ending. I didn't like the intro. In fact, it just plain sucked. But you have to play it. It's a fine example of how NOT to release an independant adventure game.
:)
I can't get the music for Escape from Delirium to work. I tried playing it again today because I knew it would come up on this list. Does it even HAVE music?
And how long is it? I never really got very far.
It does indeed have music! Some of the most absurdly composed MOD music you've ever heard!
If you can, go into DOS and run it. If you can't do that, well, you're PC is too good.
The length of the game is nothing special. The shareware version gives you a fair chunk of the game. It took me quite a while to complete it, but as far as games go, it's probably not considered that lengthy.
THE WORST - Zombieville
You probably don't know it, it was thankfully never shipped outside of Europe.
FollowUps - Discworld 1 (because it's illogical and unfair, too much, much more than humour allows), Black Dahlia (which has been RUTHLESSLY MURDERED by its OUT OF CONTEXT and GRATUITOUS and NUMEROUS shiver-style puzzles, and more's the shame, because without them it's be a masterpiece), 3 Skulls of the Toltects (BAD! BAAAAAD! Seriously, if you've going to do a wetern humour game, don't be inane. Take Freddy Pharkas for an example, it's damn good. 3 skulls of the toltecs is just plain bad, anticlimatic, and not fun at all), and finally Harvester (which would be ANOTHER masterpiece, klike Black Dahlia, if it weren't for the end. God! I can't believe this, but the ending actually managed to RUIN the entire game, which was grippingly horrifying!)
Or maybe it's just me... ;D
Gilbert Goodmate
Chewy: ESC from F5
Jack Orlando
Largo Winch: Empire Under Threat
Simon the Sorcerer 3D
(in no order)
I'm sorry Jannar, but Jack Orlando is teh best adventure ever made!!!11!!! (i.m.h.o.)
Jack Orlando... best music I ever heard in a game, great handdrawn graphics, realistic athmosphere, soeech-synchronisized animations, great story/drama, and alot of fun jokes in it.
Your opinion just sucks!!! Sorry, but it does! Jack Orlando is sooooo good, man, I just can't stop talking about it.
Loom
I never could get into the whole staff thing, with its wacky notes and colors.
That doesn't make the game suck, it just makes you stupid. ;)
But I didn't like Loom either. Probably because I only got around to playing it two years ago, and it's so hard to get into those old games nowadays unless you played them before.
And to think I was kinda dissapointed in loom cause I finished much to quickly. :-\
Quest for Glory 5 was possibly the biggest let-down for me. Whereas QFG 1 - 4 were soaked with beautiful pixel graphics, and really well defined characters etc. The 3D action orientation of QFG5 was disappointing
Anyone ever played, "Treasure of Drunk Island"?
*shiver*
I think Netmonkey may have played it.
Was the treasure somehow connected with alcohol?
I hated Loom too. Also The Dig. Those two games let LEC's adventure repertoire down so much. I would rather play Escape from Monkey Island than either of those games.
Quote from: redruM on Mon 09/02/2004 20:50:44THE WORST - Zombieville
I wholeheartedly agree - Zombieville is a f*cking travesty of a game. But not really an adventure game ... worst adventure game I've played is "Tlon". Oh and "Return to Rama" is pretty bad as well...
Urban Runner was illogical, stiff, unimaginative and just a waste of time and money.
And I would also like to express my sympathies with the pro-SQ4 side in here!
Phantasmagoria sucks donkey balls.
Some other pretty naff adventures I've played include; Dark Earth, Loom, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure ... and there was a weird one that looked like it was made in Visual Basic, something about a dream where you play this kid... Dare to Dream I think.
:)
Heh.. I remember Dare to Dream. The manual said something like "Remember, this is a dream, so it's okay if the puzles are completely illogical!"
But what's wrong with Loom? That staff thing really isn't all that complicated.. Maybe some people are just slow. ;)
Quote from: Minimi on Mon 09/02/2004 21:48:04
I'm sorry Jannar, but Jack Orlando is teh best adventure ever made!!!11!!! (i.m.h.o.)
Jack Orlando... best music I ever heard in a game, great handdrawn graphics, realistic athmosphere, soeech-synchronisized animations, great story/drama, and alot of fun jokes in it.
Your opinion just sucks!!! Sorry, but it does! Jack Orlando is sooooo good, man, I just can't stop talking about it.
Too many useless inventory items... bugs... we can get lost..
Most of the conversations are useless. Dead endings.
Just to mention a few things...
Loom was just so blindingly linea and simple. Since the only thing you could do was cast spells by playing tunes, and the spells were all really specific ("turn hay into GOLD!") it was always really obvious what you were meant to be doing at any one time. Thus the only challange became to simply remember the tunes.
I enjoyed it quite a lot, but I can see why people didn't. I think that the story was also really quite contrived, but this was probably so that there were pleanty of reasons to use the really over-specific magical spells.
"Legend of Enchantia" was really bad (although I may have mis-remembered the name a little).
I cant believe that someone would play sierra games in the first place. the puzzles and stories in sierra games are created in a way that only one solution is right, you don't have any control over what you want to do as player because every other option is stuck or death. Yay gameplay, give people freedom, not.
Look at the list of best games ever and all lucas arts games are in there, but where are all the sierra games? sierra made a shitload of games, so why isn't manhunter, woodruff, torins passage, phantasmagoria or ecoquest in the top-adventure-game-list-of-past-present-and-future?
Tell me! I NEED TO KNOW! mail me. jetxl@lycos.com. call me. 00-31-0597-414528.
People give sierra far to much bliss just because they made a lot of die-hard adventuregames that a normal mortal can't finish.
I believe it was Helm (correct me if I'm wrong) who said at mittens that it was impossible to finish pq if you weren't a real american cop. So alot of you must of cheated.
ps. I bought sq4 and now it's my fault that I can't play it?
Quote from: m0ds on Mon 09/02/2004 19:06:17
4. Death Gate
Okay, okay - this game was deffinatley cutesy and actually quite captivating and stuff, but, nuhh. It just got a bit boring after a while. Still, I'll never throw it away :)
I liked Death Gate... actually I'm currently stuck in it as I don't remember how to get past this one point... if I still have it installed...
And, for sierra games, atleast Shivers is good (I think it's sierra's...), thus I haven't finished it yet... and I don't have it anymore...
I can't name any
bad games, atleast not now...
Can't agree about Loom and The Dig - Loved those games, but the absolutley worst adventure game I've played is "Waynes World".
A horrible, horrible rip-off of the movie, with slooooow dialogues, and weak jokes. One of the most foul attempts at making money from a popular movie I've ever seen... Let's just say that I didn't have the patience to finish it, and that was after about 15 minutes of gameplay...
And no, it's not worth downloading it, even for the pretty graphics and the opportunity to hear the WW-theme...
Heeeey, Jet X.L, slow down for a bit - lots of Sierra games were AMAZING - For their TIME! We ALL must remember that. Phnatasmagoria may be of limited gameplay, but it was the first FMV game ever. And we MUST admit it gives some players, like me, just what they want - a good story, very nicely told, and a gripping one at that. Which is why I became hooked on GK. Hell, which is why I became hooked on adventure games! ESPECIALLY Loom and The Dig.
There's all sorts of adventure, and when we say "so-so is bad" or "so-so is good", we have to remember - are they old? Are they new? What is its audience, the puzzle addicts, the story-freaks, the non-linearity crazies?
QuoteLook at the list of best games ever and all lucas arts games are in there, but where are all the sierra games?
Um...Space Quest, Kings Quest, Goblins, Leisure Suit Larry, I've never played Gabriel Knight but I hear it's good. Sierra made several great adventure games. And you can find great games of theres in other genres. The Incredible Machine, Half-Life, Homeworld, Hoyle games, many more.
Sierra as a game company is very strong. They, are, no longer geared towards making adventure games, and when they were, they were the first. So they made a few mistakes along the way of making a few games.
And just to say, Space Quest 4 I would consider one of MY top ten adventure games, in fact SQ as a series would go before MI as a series in MY list. And while it's not your fault that it doesn't run on your machine, it's not really theirs either, considering what computers were capable of when the game was released. And from your computer speed, the applications to slow down your system would have worked wonderfully well for you. You should try one sometime and notice the vast improvement over the timing issues.
-MillsJROSS
I shed a tear every time somebody bashes Loom.
I finished Police Quest 1vag and 3 and i am not an american cop, and i did not once use a hint book.
Rockawesome.
IMO GK1 is the best adventure game ever created. It had everything one could want.
Quote from: remixor on Wed 11/02/2004 10:29:19
I shed a tear every time somebody bashes Loom.
Crappy, shitty, godawful, world's worst adventure game Loom, you mean?
I guess you just aren't very musical, eh AGA?
The only bad thing I can think of about loom is that it was far too short. Also, the dig rocks. In my opinion. If I had to choose the worst game ever, I'd choose the scroll, escape from delirium or something as bad as that.
Quote from: AGA on Wed 11/02/2004 11:23:04
Quote from: remixor on Wed 11/02/2004 10:29:19
I shed a tear every time somebody bashes Loom.
Crappy, shitty, godawful, world's worst adventure game Loom, you mean?
I can't hang around these forums very long before I need some heavy-duty towels.
I've loved Loom from the start and still replay it occasionally. Sure, it's not much of a challenge puzzle-wise, but the story is very evoking and I just love Tschaikovsky.
As to really bad games... The Black Cauldron and the two Manhunter games get my vote for (imho) abuse of the otherwise good AGI engine.
Monkey Island four was disappointing mainly because of the annoying controls which made me give up before getting anywhere.
And I was quite a bit disappointed in Day of the Tentacle because it lacks the cooperation puzzles of Maniac Mansion (i.e. have Dave ring the doorbell, then quickly have Sid walk into Ed's room to grab the hamster).
Actually vote for the worst ever would go to King's Quest V. Because most of the puzzles really don't make sense (I mean, killing a yeti with a PIE? come on!) and it's far too easy to have the game go zombie on you because you missed a pixel. And you can't skip most of the demos when replaying. And the end is just a deus-ex-machina. Oh well I'll shut up now. The rest of the KQ series is great though including the remake of II.
City of Lost Children was particularly horrible.
Loom is very overrated (Captain Mostly summed up it's fatal flaw best), but I don't think it comes anywhere near 'worst adventure game'.
The worst adventure I've played to date is probably Starship Titanic. Though I also hate The Feeble Files with a passion.
I personally loved Loom and The Dig, so I have to voice my disagreement with them being anywhere on is thread. Worst adventure game of all time? No no no. I didn't like Escape from Delirium either but I still wouldn't put it anywhere near this list. There are some REALLY bad, crappy games out there.
Also, to whoever bagged the Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes ... take yourself into a corner and whip yourself with a dead cobra! It's a great game ^^ You just have to be a fan of either Holmes himself or good, detailed description. I have no problem with any detective style adventure game, in fact, there aren't nearly enough.
But I'm not a fan of Sherlock Holmes.
Neither am I fan of hellraising creatures that are here to destroy teh human race, and that's probably why I didn't particularly like Quake, either.
:D
Quote from: m0ds on Wed 11/02/2004 15:06:05
Neither am I fan of hellraising creatures that are here to destroy teh human race, and that's probably why I didn't particularly like Quake, either.
But you don't have to be a fan of hellraising creatures to like quake... you just had to like running around blowing them up ;D.
I also feel a strong need to voice my disagreement with all those who seem to hate Loom... sure, it might not be your favourite game, but to mention it as your worst??? ?? It was a really great game...so much about it I loved, INCLUDING its unique interface. I remember playing the City of lost children, too. I borrowed it from a friend of mine but I never got that far and then I just lost interest. Aside from that I dont remember anything all that horrible about it. King's Quest V I loved as well... it was my first of the KQ series. I guess that is the major reason I have for liking it so much- but I dont remember anything particularly wrong with it either.... alot of other games had much more annoying puzzles. Is "The lost files of Sherlock Homles" a game where you get to choose from a number of mysteries to solve and then you go through choosing a series of video clips to watch and addresses to visit and at the end you go to some courtroom to identify the murderer? I think I still have that CD... I never solved any of the mysteries tho...
I think you're mistaking it for "Law and order"...
Is Mods hating "The lost files of Sherlock Holmes" [awesome], or one of the other crappy Sherlock Holmes games out there, which are crap?
yeah!! Sherlock Holmes is one of the best games! I have a cd with 3 cases. The Mummy's curse, The mystified murderess, The tin soldier.
I completed all 3 cases, but I was wondering if there excisted more cd's of this with more cases?! If you have another cd of it, maybe you can burn it over, or send me the complete game, and I wanna pay $$$ ;D
There are more. I have one that isn't any of those but... are the ones you have "The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes"? Because there are a lot of other Sherlock Holmes games out there. I haven't played them so I'm not sure how different they are.
The one I have is a "Lost Files" called "The Case of the Serrated Scalpel". There's also one called "The Case of the Rose Tattoo" but I've never seen it around.
I just thought you all should know that Loom is nothing short of awesome. Actually, the story and plot itself were probably quite horrid, but everything else made for an amazing game. Minus the ease with which one could finish it. Still, it's a great game.
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective was one of the first FMV games, and is probably the one that most have played. I actually enjoyed it when i played the 12 years ago.
I guess the only adventure game to make me actually ANGRY at how bad it is would be Escape from Monkey Island.
I mean, they were SO lucky to make the 3rd one so awsome, and we all KNEW it was pushing their luck to go for number 4 and it was SO SO DISSAPOINTING!!!
GAHHH!!!
What amazes me is the way they made it and decided to have constant fan-boy references to the origional two games, but almost none to number 3! As though number 3 didn't bring anything but a wedding to the seriese. Talk about an under-use of popular characters (*cough cough* murry *cough*) And I can't remember ONE joke that made me laugh, where there are simply BUCKET loads of laugh-out-loud jokes in CMI...
forget the feeble files, this is hardcore dissapointment! To make a more dissapointing game than this, would have to be equivalent of Run Hot being basically "Mika's Surreal Dream part 7: EVEN MORE WEE JOKES!"
1.The Feeble Files
Annoying controls, bad walk areas, confusing graphics, and it only runs on 95 and 98.
2.The Dig
I didn't even care to finish it.
3.Escape from monkey island
Not really bad, but one hell of an disapointment. MI DON'T BELONG IN THE 3D WORLD, AND STRATEGY PUZZLES (monkey kombat etc) REALLY SUCKS.
And that's the end of that chapter.
Something about how people keep dissing EMI and how it was cool and stuff.
Also, link to a weird thingy: www.weirdthingy.com
The Dig was pretty crappy. The worst for me is King's Quest V. It could have been pretty good, but it's got some of the worst-designed puzzles I've ever seen in a supposedly good game. There's no freaking way to beat this without either a walkthrough or by spending a billion hours at it (or if you're a little better at adventure games than me). But all those DEAD ENDS!!! So, so stupid.
Plus, Graham's a loser.
Quote from: Nellie on Wed 11/02/2004 13:29:19The worst adventure I've played to date is probably Starship Titanic. Though I also hate The Feeble Files with a passion.
Anyone who hates the Feeble Files obviously didn't catch the fantastic Question Time spoof on the prison TV. Anyone who hates Starship Titanic obviously never tried asking for a blowjob (in the game, natch).
And come on; who can possibly
hate a game with John Cleese in it? Disregarding the Monty Python games, obviously.
Hey, the Question Time spoof was superb. But put a diamond in a turd and it's still a turd.
Quote from: Shattered Sponge on Fri 13/02/2004 00:13:48
who can possibly hate a game with John Cleese in it?
I don't think it was really John Cleese doing the bomb's voice (yes I sat through the whole credits looking), but Terry Jones was in it, and Adams thanked the whole cast of Friends for some reason.
I agree with the sentiment though, Starship Titanic was a game with a great story.
O Brobostigon and Scraliontis - how could you!?
How can we go sixty posts without mentioning the turd that is "A Fork in the Tale?" First person FMV... Rob Schneider... need I say more?
But if Monty Python humor is what you're looking for, check out "Blazing Dragons," one of the funniest games I've ever played. Even though it's for Saturn and Playstation, it's still a load of fun to play.
I really wanted to like Starship Titanic but, unfortunately, it was just too broken.
Quote from: Malcom X.L. on Mon 09/02/2004 09:11:24
You're saying that my 90 Mhz computer is to fast?
That's the nicest thing someone said about my computer in 10 years.
WOW!! you got a 90Mhz, I only got an 60Mhz!!!!! :D... well ,, i have an 600Mhz as well..
Quote from: Malcom X.L. on Mon 09/02/2004 08:48:38
1- police quest. "Game Over" because you didn't check if all four tires are still under
if (you think PQ is bad)
then (you strange)
hahaha
FEEBLE FILES
FEEBLE FUCKING FILES
This has to be the worst game because of that damn chemistry puzzle, even when i looked at a walkthrough i couldn't do it! lol
ps. benbigbrain's back for a while but with no games in production because i never had the time or effort but if anyone wants any of the ideas, feel free allthough I think the website time ran out. oh well, the Monkey Island script is real good. Just ask.
The Feeble Files was great, it just had a few annoying puzzles. (The arcade, the programming the keycard).
The real worst game is Simon the Sorcerer 2. It commits the worst offence ever in an adventure game. It has a "To be continued" ending. All the effort you put in to it is wasted because you don't get anything in return.
All adventures, no matter how good or crappy, at least give you a proper ending for your work.
I liked Feeble Files, but I stopped playing it simply because of how long it took Feeble to walk from one side of the maze to the other!
ABOUT 10 MINUTES!
Seriously.
The Incredible Adventures of Edd Schiester #1: Escape From A Large Cave.
(Oh, all right, Monkey Island 4.)