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Title: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Dataflashsabot on Wed 07/01/2009 21:32:39
What are the worst bugs and glitches youve found in an adventure game? i hated the unbreakable loop bug in rob blanc 2- at least, i think it was 2, it may have been 3. anyway, you? edit: changed title
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: AsimosVagan on Thu 08/01/2009 00:25:35
   Error 52 in Quest for Glory 4. Arghh!!!!
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: DeviantGent on Thu 08/01/2009 00:54:10
Error 52 in Que-

...

My god. SOMEONE ELSE WHO KNOWS THE PAIN.

*sobs on shoulder*
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Miez on Thu 08/01/2009 00:58:10
Ugh, Broken Sword for GBA. It's so full of bugs they could have filled a National Geographic documentary with it...
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 08/01/2009 00:59:31
LSL2: "put bag in bottle" Period.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: MoodyBlues on Thu 08/01/2009 01:04:42
The "out of heap space" error in KQV is the only one that comes to mind, but it's a pretty bad one.  It's the reason why I never finished the game. :(
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Trent R on Thu 08/01/2009 02:27:59
Error 52, but I found a fanpatch recently that makes it work miraculously (even on Vista!)


~Trent
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Radiant on Thu 08/01/2009 09:43:49
LSL2 not understanding "bag" as a synonym for "airsick bag"
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 08/01/2009 13:21:55
No, that's not the real reason. It's a serious bug that's documented, even in Al Lowe's own page (http://www.allowe.com/Larry/cluescheats.htm).

Back at the time I played the game communication wasn't that advanced and I didn't have any network access. I was frustrated (to state the worst that was the very last parser command in the game) because I could never beat the game but other people could. I asked those who had beat the game but no one knew why.

Only until I had Internet access I discovered from sites like GameFAQs that there was indeed a bug and after having stucked for more than 10 years I could beat the game for the first time.

Now, that's my own story.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: arj0n on Thu 08/01/2009 14:17:25
"Oops you tried something...." or
"Oops! You did something we weren't expecting"
(can't remember clearly)
from the leisure suit larry serie.

this bug made the game crash if I'm right
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Radiant on Thu 08/01/2009 14:57:44
Quote from: Gilbet V7000a on Thu 08/01/2009 13:21:55
No, that's not the real reason. It's a serious bug that's documented, even in Al Lowe's own page (http://www.allowe.com/Larry/cluescheats.htm).
Interesting. That's the first good description I've seen of it; general solutions I've read so far were somewhat over the top like "insert the airsick bag into the hair rejuvenator bottle" (and I am quite sure that typing "airsick bag" works even without using "the").

Ironically, from that same page, Al is oh so proud of the way he implemented the maze in LSL3, but neglects to mention that the same trick was used in e.g. SQ1 and KQ3 :P  (heck, the ability to do so is a major feature in how AGI was designed)

Quote from: _.-=[ Arj0nthis bug made the game crash if I'm right
Almost. That's the message the game (and other SCI games) display when something else causes them to crash. If you've ever seen an AGI game crash (and I have) you'll know that this is an improvement :)
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 08/01/2009 15:13:46
I remember playing Monkey Island with my brother and dinner was ready so we went downstairs to eat and left the game just sitting there. When we came back there was an error, something about a Parity Check failing or whatever... We had to restart the computer and do this whole section over again.

Some days later we were still playing Monkey Island and my brother wanted to take a shower but didn't want to turn off the game so he had me sit there and move the mouse around and look at inventory items... I was FORBIDDEN to play the game, just look at things and DON'T walk around!
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Thu 08/01/2009 15:15:29
Needless to say you ignored him and finished the game.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: MoodyBlues on Thu 08/01/2009 17:02:36
Quote from: MrColossal on Thu 08/01/2009 15:13:46
Some days later we were still playing Monkey Island and my brother wanted to take a shower but didn't want to turn off the game so he had me sit there and move the mouse around and look at inventory items... I was FORBIDDEN to play the game, just look at things and DON'T walk around!

:)  Cute story!  (But why didn't your brother just save the game?)
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: MrColossal on Fri 09/01/2009 04:24:20
The game was saved but I guess we didn't want to turn the computer off only to turn it on again in 20 minutes when he was done with his shower. Lazy...

On the other hand, I got to read every pamphlet in the inventory like 12 times!
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Trihan on Fri 09/01/2009 04:45:50
I bet you could probably rattle them off from memory.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Azure on Sat 10/01/2009 23:22:49
For me the fact Broken Sword Advance broke if you did it in the wrong order ( PRIEST GIMME MY SILVER), or the fact that Torin's passage wouldn't save for me.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Trihan on Sat 10/01/2009 23:25:47
Torin's Passage is like my favourite AG ever.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: blueskirt on Sun 11/01/2009 02:32:39
I'd say that sickbay bug in Space Quest 6 which took me 7 years to discover how to overcome, the bug that crash the floppy version of King's Quest 5 two actions before the end of the game (that has to be one of the most insulting bug ever), and all those fatal errors in No Action Jackson. I try to find more but those are the only frustrating bugs I can think of.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: DanielH on Sun 11/01/2009 21:27:32
Trying to get Monkey Islands 3 & 4 to run on an operating system made after Windows 98. Mother of god, It's hard. At least MI3 can be run on Scummvm, MI4 is unplayable for me  :'(. While MI4 isn't the best adventure game (or anwhere near the best) I feel a little saddened that I can't complete the series.

Also, sam & max constantly crashed when I owned it originally, but Scumvm fixed that. Yay for ScummVm!
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Trent R on Mon 12/01/2009 05:57:38
I thought MI4 came out after XP? I was able to get it to run on my XP system... once upon a time.

~Trent
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Akatosh on Mon 12/01/2009 10:56:29
In Discworld Noir, there's one soul-crushingly arbitrary "jail escape" section where

Spoiler

you have to wait for a really tiny mouse to appear, move into the right position, then try to grab it. It'll run off into a crack in a stone, which you'll then have to interact with to uncover a secret passage to the next room... from which you'll flee instantly after talking to the guy living in there because your police buddy is coming to free you from your cell.
[close]

Thing was just... the mouse didn't appear. I had to reload from an earlier save. Being a gullible child back then, I spent the better part of an hour staring at an empty cell until I realised something had gotten fucked up.

Also, I'm not sure if that counts, but the strange hack I have to use to get Oblivion to run on my shitty graphics card runs a little flimsy... and crashes as soon as I see a healing spell resolve. Makes for "interesting" gameplay, to say the least.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: DanielH on Mon 12/01/2009 16:25:15
Quote from: Trent R on Mon 12/01/2009 05:57:38
I thought MI4 came out after XP? I was able to get it to run on my XP system... once upon a time.

Nope. MI4 released November 2000
Windows XP released October 2001

MI 4 Began development in early  1999 (wow, 1999 is a decade ago! :o)
XP Began development December 1999

There's no way MI4 would be designed to be XP-compatible, as XP didn't really exist. Minimum specs (on the box) State Windows 95/98 needed.

MI4 on vista? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Not a chance.


Also, In reply to Akatosh's oblivion troubles, anyone played KotOR/KotORII ? Anyone tried to play it successfully on an ATI card? Fat chance. the problems with ATI's catalyst drivers were reported by KotOR players back when catalyst 5(ish) was released. No fix ever came, from bioware or ATI.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: DutchMarco on Thu 15/01/2009 09:48:29
I can't adda any bug/game specifically, but Sierra's games always had them as an added bonus; you got a lot of them for free. with every game This was at least the case in SQ4, and probably also others.

Yay for separating logic and programming with SCUMM (and AGS, obviously)
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Radiant on Thu 15/01/2009 10:20:12
Quote from: DutchMarco on Thu 15/01/2009 09:48:29
Yay for separating logic and programming with SCUMM (and AGS, obviously)
Ironically, Sierra also separated logic from programming, in AGI, SCI and SCIV. But while crashes in AGI games are almost unheard of, SCIV games in particular seem to be rife with them. This may be related to the fact that LucasArts produced (roughly) one game per year, whereas Sierra produced three or four. Perhaps it's a quality vs quantity tradeoff?
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Ali on Thu 15/01/2009 11:33:48
In Starship Titanic I found it almost impossible to get the bellbot to remove the lightbulb  (titania's eye) and give it to me. The text parser seemed only to accept one way of phrasing GIVE ME THE LIGHTBULB, which I've never manage to guess when playing the game. I still love it though.

Not necessarily a bug, but it sounds similar to the airsick bag story.
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Trent R on Sat 17/01/2009 17:16:11
Not necessarily a bug, but my friend Colt and I were playing GK1 when we were in elementary school. We played through it at roughly the same speed, but I was able to beat the zombies in Africa (swing on the vine and run through to find Wolfgang) and he wasn't.

Maybe he just couldn't do it (no matter how hard he tried), or maybe it was a speed issue (like many Sierra games)



~Trent
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Invalid on Sat 16/05/2009 22:15:21
most games played on the GBA emulater for the pc have a bug that says "Unable to continue on platform" or something like that.... makes me so mad..... to go so far to have that
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: Trent R on Sun 17/05/2009 05:32:47
Maybe because it's not meant to be played on the PC, it's meant to be played on the GBA.

~Trent
Title: Re: worst bugs in adventure games?
Post by: incobalt on Sun 17/05/2009 08:12:52
For me, the worst bug I can think of right now was in Broken Sword 2, when the priest wouldn't give me back whatever he was supposed to give me (my memory is failing me =/ ); I spent hours trying to figure out what I hadn't done and going all over and trying everything.  I eventually had to start the game over and get back to that point and it worked just fine.  So. Very. Annoying.

Quote from: DanielH on Sun 11/01/2009 21:27:32
Trying to get Monkey Islands 3 & 4 to run on an operating system made after Windows 98. Mother of god, It's hard. At least MI3 can be run on Scummvm, MI4 is unplayable for me  :'(. While MI4 isn't the best adventure game (or anwhere near the best) I feel a little saddened that I can't complete the series.

It's definitely not the best in the series.  I played it on the PS2 for some reason.  Just now looking, I realized that I must have sold my copy of the game (which must have been a hard sell) but I still have my end of game save file on my memory card.