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Title: Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Tue 22/04/2003 02:20:07
Anyone know of a viable way to convert Midi's to MP3?
I've used methods such as playing the midi then recording straight to cool edit, it always ends up skipping due to my CPU (in)capabilities (AMD k6-2 350).
I have Fruity Loops 3, but have to reassign the instruments.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated :)
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Archangel (aka SoupDragon) on Tue 22/04/2003 02:23:47
First, technically it's not 'converting' it's 'rendering' :P

Second, buy a better cpu, enable dma on your hardrive, buy more ram. Because the only way of recording MIDI to MP3 without using your processor would be to connect the speaker out on your computer to an external recording device, then playing it back in the line in afterwards.

Or buy a hardware synth :P
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Tue 22/04/2003 02:39:44
ren·der - Pronunciation Key  (rndr)
tr.v. ren·dered, ren·der·ing, ren·ders
- Computer Science. To convert (graphics) from a file into visual form, as on a video display.

That's a pain in the nads :(
Don't suppose anyone would be kind enough to "render" them for me. (must have 2k - XP midi drivers)

Here's the URL -
www.geocities.com/ibexgames/songs.zip
(Save Target As)

Btw  8) since this is indeed the critics lounge, anyone willing to C&C these is welcome :)
Decent Midi drivers are recommend though, i tried these on a default win98 midi driver.... sounded like a toddler urinating on a rattle snake.

Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: BOYD1981 on Tue 22/04/2003 03:21:42
there's a prog called MIDINight Express that can render midi to wav form, perhaps even mp3, i downloaded it a while ago but haven't used it yet...
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 22/04/2003 07:58:23
Quote from: IbeX on Tue 22/04/2003 02:39:44
indeed the critics lounge, anyone willing to C&C these is welcome :)
Decent Midi drivers are recommend though, i tried these on a default win98 midi driver.... sounded like a toddler urinating on a rattle snake.

Hmm, I always thought the quality of gen midi comes from the soundcard ???

anyhow... Arch is right, I always use my hardware synthesizer to render mp3's from midi which provides great quality and top sound. You could even sing with it ;)
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Tue 22/04/2003 08:58:54
BOYD1981 , i downloaded midinight... gave me hassles about prg files.
I managed to record my midi's through sound recorder without any clicks/pops, however there's a constant hiss in the background.
I proceeded to use cool edit's hiss eliminator, didn't seem to make an ounce of difference.
You're right N3TGraph, if u have a decent sound card with updated driver's your Midi's should sound decent on all OS's.
However win 2k/XP provides great generic midi drivers for all cards (inc on board cards).
Hence the reason i wish to convert my Midi's to MP3 so that all players will hear high quality Midi's. (even if they're really MP3's :P)
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 22/04/2003 09:24:38
okay, that's true... but the reason why most of us use midi's is because of the size.

midi is like 10 kb and a mp3 is at least 1,2 mb
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: jannar85 on Tue 22/04/2003 13:03:28
I use beatnik, then I record, then I convert the wav to mp3. :)
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Tue 22/04/2003 14:09:01
Yeh I'm justifying quantity for quality at this point in time... kinda hard spending hours developing a 40 second midi knowing 60% of the general populouse is gonna hear a downgraded version  :-\

Thanks Jannar, i'll give that a go :)

Btw anyone tried out those songs yet?
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 22/04/2003 14:20:52
nope... haven't been home - yet
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Tue 22/04/2003 14:42:30
Damn you work long hours  :P
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 22/04/2003 14:46:53
I think it's more a timezone matter ;D
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Tue 22/04/2003 14:55:44
naaaah man, i did my research :P

Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
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Posted by: N3TGraph  
Posted on: Today at 14:46

- Ok 7 hours... feels like an eternity to this fragile little mind
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Tue 22/04/2003 16:07:08
Beatnik is a nice peice of ass, apart from destroying cakewalk's midi in/out puts... even after restarting.
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 22/04/2003 18:05:36
yeah well actually I start at 8:30 and end at 16:30

but yeah 7,5 hours a day - is average I think :)
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Wed 23/04/2003 02:12:21
OK seriously jannar, beatnik has in some way, shape or form raped cakewalk... rebooted, reinstalled... can't get my midi in/out ports back... tried every combination in the device selection menu...
PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS ONE!!!!  
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: n3tgraph on Wed 23/04/2003 07:55:42
hey hey hey take it easy, jannar only tried to help :)

okay try this:
go to start - control panel - then click the icon with the little speaker (I have dutch windows so I don't know how it's called)

when clicked, go to the tab that reads 'audio'
check if the midi device isn't set to mpu401. OR check if the midi device is properly set ;)
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Wed 23/04/2003 08:41:00
Jannar knows i love him :D
The midi's still play in media player and beatnik... just not cakewalk... really depressing :P
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: n3tgraph on Wed 23/04/2003 08:45:54
ooooooh :)

that problem is easy fixed
start windows explorer
go to menu-option 'extra'
click on folder-options or something
click on the tab named file types (or something)
find the extensions *.mid and *.midi
you'll see a line which says open with:

change the programme to cakewalk, and you are set

I do have a dutch windows, so don't bug me if some options have different names

Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Wed 23/04/2003 08:50:20
hehe sorry think we got our lines crossed... I "can" play the files in cakewalk.... they just dont make any sound... where as they make sound in media player and beatnik

(EDIT)
They stopped making any sound in cakewalk the moment i installed beatnik... I've even reinstalled cakewalk. Checked the midi in/out ports etc.
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Gilbert on Wed 23/04/2003 08:54:24
Try to look up for some setting/configuration menu in cakewalk and change the MIDI output devices there.
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: n3tgraph on Wed 23/04/2003 08:54:36
???

okay so I'm confused, you did it ;)

well, that can only be a setting in cakewalk imo
I never used cw before so I don't know where to look :P soz
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Wed 23/04/2003 11:22:54
lol, I am the ultimate miasma N3TGraph!

Gilbot V7000a, as I previously stated, i've tried every combination of in/out put in the devices menu.

This is so rooted, really hope this thread doesn't become locked before someone can help me out  :P
Die w/o my cakewalk

Anyone wanna C&C the songs?
www.geocities.com/ibexgames/songs.zip
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Sluggo on Wed 23/04/2003 22:05:21
I like the midis. They sound cool. Crazy, but cool. I guess what I don't like about them is the lack of structure and melody/direction in most of it. As of now it doesn't really make any sense. The short three second ones are fine the way they are. I'm talking about the longer ones.

:)
Title: Re:Converting Midi's to MP3
Post by: Nixxon on Thu 24/04/2003 08:20:59
Yea your right :D
I have trouble making music flow without it sounding looped :P