king of rock 2- 3rd background

viktor · Wed 09/06/2004 17:17:33

This is the newest background. It's a park. But something isn't right and I can't figure it aout. Can you help me please.

Sam. · Wed 09/06/2004 17:23:10

i edited the window for you. hope you like it.

Czar · Wed 09/06/2004 17:28:20

i think it's a bit better but now it looks like its just been framed and glassed...

viktor · Wed 09/06/2004 18:13:53

i think so to but It definetly looks beter. But it still looks flat.

TheDude · Wed 09/06/2004 20:34:25

Here's some edits, you just needed to add the inside "faces" to the frame.

Ashen · Wed 09/06/2004 20:43:08

TheDude has a point, but I think you need to add even more depth - as is is the wall of that apartment is paper thin. Make the 'inside faces' thicker, or maybe add a wall outside.

Also, the perspective of the window seems off - the top frame should be higher on the right than on the left. This isn't such a big thing, as the whole BG has a warped perspective, it's just that, to me, the window looks tiny, which might be adding to the 'looks more like a picture' thing.

viktor · Wed 09/06/2004 21:00:44

Cool it worked. Thanx. How does it look now in your opinion?

Damien · Wed 09/06/2004 21:04:58

Better, I suggest moving the frame to the center of the wall and adding the window-sill, maybe curtains, etc.

Daz · Wed 09/06/2004 21:18:38

i tried an edit

i changed the colour of the walls and floor, added more shadows and fixed some perspective probs, i think

hope it helped

-Daz

Andail · Wed 09/06/2004 21:26:26

I think it looks cool, the amount of details shows you've put a lot of work on it, and the cartoony style is sort of cheerful. I'm sure it will work well in a game.

Daz' update works well too; it's slightly cleaner and the shadows- albeit not very consequental - helps liven up the scene

Dan2552 · Wed 09/06/2004 22:31:32

I prefer Daz's color. :o so much easier for the eyes
and i like viktor's window frame
and Zootyfruit's window :

Ashen · Wed 09/06/2004 23:47:40

My version, using Daz's colours, and Zootyfruit's window, kind of...

http://www.geocities.com/whoismonkey/window.htm

Daz's colours are easier on the eyes, as Dan2552 said, but it depends on the mood you want. Your colours would probably be better for a slightly seedy, cheap, bachelor-pad kind of place, in which case you might want to trash the place a little (doors hanging off cupboards, peeling paper, etc).

Cerulean · Thu 10/06/2004 00:17:06

Your window has a common problem: the world outside doesn't follow the perspective of your house. We should see a horizon cutting somwehere through the middle there, with ground under it.

Phemar · Thu 10/06/2004 05:58:56

That window is still waaaay out of perspective, but it's improving. But I like the BG. I love the BG, yup.

viktor · Thu 10/06/2004 16:31:48

here is the latest edit. I changed the color as it was sugested and I modified the window a bit again. I left everithing unchanged. The table is so big for a reason. It actualy fils up the room so...

But seriously I think that this background turned out great. Thanx!

Darth Mandarb · Thu 10/06/2004 16:41:14

Cityscapes were never my strong point ...

I like the background ... the only thing that was buggin' me was the outside of the window.

YOke · Thu 10/06/2004 18:17:49

I'm no expert at this, but I don't think you would be able to see the horizon through the window...
I always put the vanishing point(s) on the horizon because it looks right to me. The vanishing point in the picture is somewhere in the middle of the back wall (somewhere around the first knob on the left on the cupboard over the sink), going OVER the window. When the horizon is placed lower it looks (to me) like the room is at an angle.

Eigen · Thu 10/06/2004 18:35:46

Maybe the window should be more like this:

-Eigen

viktor · Thu 10/06/2004 18:50:40

Quote from: YOke on Thu 10/06/2004 18:17:49
I'm no expert at this, but I don't think you would be able to see the horizon through the window...
I always put the vanishing point(s) on the horizon because it looks right to me. The vanishing point in the picture is somewhere in the middle of the back wall (somewhere around the first knob on the left on the cupboard over the sink), going OVER the window. When the horizon is placed lower it looks (to me) like the room is at an angle.

Nah...
that isn't absolutley necesery. It depends on what (or should I put it HOW) you actualy draw the picture. I realy like Darth Mandarbs edit. It kinda lookls A LOT better than my buildings. But the only problem here is that this is an apartment in the middle of the city. The picture looks like the apartment is far away from the city.

He-Man · Thu 10/06/2004 21:34:13

Yo yo!

Really nice background. The cartoonish style rocks!
Though the background was good in the first place I added a few things:

1. Changed wall colours slightly om the celling and back wall.
2. Added a few shaddows.
3. Changed the window and the door so they fit their walls, respectivly. They do not fit into the overall perspective of room to keep the cartoonish style intact.
4. Stole the idea to the things outside the window from Darth Mandarb...

I hope you can use some of my changes.

- your pal Niels