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Title: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Mon 24/10/2005 21:29:51
As some of you may have understood i'm making a MacGyver game (yay) but got abit off-track some weeks/months ago. But now im back on track :P Sooo.... What do you think of this sideview compared to the frontview? (you already critisized the front view so drop it!)

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/macsideways.bmp)

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/macsideways.bmp)

the "extra" face is just where i got the colours from... please dont mind it

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac2.png)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac2.png)

(quick paintovers are always welcome)
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: IM NOT TEH SPAM on Mon 24/10/2005 21:53:00
It looks too much like his mouth is on that side of his face.  Plus it looks like he's very tense--despite the calm look in his face.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: viktor on Tue 25/10/2005 06:31:39
I don't think that the mouth is to much of a problem. What I find strange is the shading in the front wiew. You can't tell where the light is coming from. His pants and jacket are coloured on the left and right. It kind of dosn't seem natural.  Otherwise I think that your sprite is quite good. A little polishing here and there and I think you have an exelent sprite.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Eigen on Tue 25/10/2005 06:37:46
I once started to work on a MacGyver game as well, but never got further than one view. Perhaps it helps you. I think it kinda looks like Mac.

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac_.png)
2x
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac_2x.png)


-Eigen
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Tue 25/10/2005 15:42:39
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/macsideways2.PNG)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/macsideways2.PNG)

Yes... Decreased his head-size some and bended his back some. Did some more too, that i dont really remember, but sure you see it.


Yeah! Added some shades too!







Damned bmps.... ::)
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Fri 28/10/2005 19:35:41
Well, since noone said anything, i guess i can be satisfied :-\ :P Is it okay now or what?
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Scummbuddy on Fri 28/10/2005 20:08:22
Well, it just depends on how much you want it to resemble Richard Dean Anderson. To me, this has nothing to do with him, besides a brown jacket.

Eigens version is pretty close, but I would still suggest you work on making it somewhat close to Richard. I mean, Indy sprites from the old games were pretty good at capturing Harrison, but didn't have to be huge sprites. But then again, it has to do with what style your bgs are going to be in as well.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Krysis on Fri 28/10/2005 21:08:23
Just wasting time. Hope that helps. (http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/4114/image18hy.gif)
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Fri 28/10/2005 21:35:25
Gah! I just realised how much my drawing suck!


Thanks anyhoo :P You made that now? Thats good!
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Fri 28/10/2005 22:33:06
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac2zomg.png)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac2zomg.png)

I'm quite happy with it now actually :P What do you think? Totally different :P
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Nikolas on Fri 28/10/2005 22:35:45
He looks a bit more harsh that he is in reality, but I think that it's great! Now he reminds me very much of Richard. I think that his torso is a little too big, but we have to wait for krysis to solve this probably.

The only thing left to do is to change your avatar.  ;)
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Fri 28/10/2005 22:46:00
aye:P Agree he looks... really really angry:P trying to fix it now:P

EDIT:
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac2zomg2.PNG)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac2zomg2.PNG)
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Scummbuddy on Fri 28/10/2005 23:22:53
you havent fixed all the black outlines to be darker outlines, such as a darker brown for the pants, instead of black, like what you did with the darker pink for the face outline.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Fri 28/10/2005 23:44:52
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac2zomg3.PNG)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mac2zomg3.PNG)
I'm pretty satisfied now, but what do you think?
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Ubel on Fri 28/10/2005 23:48:00
I really don't think the head fits in with the style of the body. The body has a lot more contrast. Maybe darken the outline of his hair a bit... Then it might fit better.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Andail on Sat 29/10/2005 11:37:23
Sprite drawing isn't my strength, really, but I had a go at this one:
x2
(http://www.esseb.com/andail/macedit2.png)

The clothes could need a lot of shading, as they appear pretty flat right now.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Sat 29/10/2005 13:58:06
Its really nice, but what are those really dark lines om his pants? I love it! :P
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Haddas on Sat 29/10/2005 14:22:17
You just drew yourself didn't you Andail?
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Nikolas on Sat 29/10/2005 14:36:17
If you take off another 15-20 pounds yeah. I have an impression of Andail being really really slim... ;D
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Sat 29/10/2005 14:53:45
Hmm... Now that you mention it, he looks alot like andails avatar :P
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Sat 29/10/2005 15:26:41
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/macedit3.PNG)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/macedit3.PNG)

Gah... this just wont be finished :P Now, what do you think?
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: MarVelo on Sat 29/10/2005 16:20:55
pretty good i think there are 2 many colors in the face though.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Krysis on Sat 29/10/2005 21:37:31
I dont wanna be too much of a critic, but vict0r if you need someone to make the sprites forÃ,  this aint the place. I made that stupid face (i dont even know who McGyver is) just to give you idea - not a template. Seems you took that great sprite Andail did and changed about 4 pixels? Anyone can do that. Make a version you like not just take other ppls. Make more, take less and you'll learn. Sorry if you dont like it but its my opinion and I wanted to share it with you.

Ohh and the shoes are a bit too round.Ã,  ;D

Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Haddas on Sat 29/10/2005 23:25:35
http://www.geocities.com/macguyveri/macgyver/moutros01.jpg

Macgyver on the left.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Sun 30/10/2005 00:21:19
Gah... I guess you are right. I guess i should'nt just copy stuff. Well then... Back to pain! I will never give up! ;D
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Sun 30/10/2005 01:24:49
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/myownmac3.PNG)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/myownmac4.PNG)

What do you think of these two(the only difference is the eyes)? I know the body is almost the same, but all Andail did with the body was some touch-up of my original ;D
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Redwall on Sun 30/10/2005 01:49:48
Those are some pretty severe touch-ups...

...but the new face is nice. The contrast on the neck and lack of contrast in the face looks odd, though.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: MarVelo on Sun 30/10/2005 03:03:19
MUCH BETTER! i agree the neck is odd...
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Andail on Sun 30/10/2005 08:16:27
Hehe, weird, it looked a bit like me, yeah. I didn't draw myself though, it was purely incidental.
Well, glad you liked the sprite.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Sun 30/10/2005 11:19:41
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/myownmac5.PNG)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/myownmac6.PNG)
I think i fixed the neck problem now. Witch one is the best version? Not much of a difference, but... :P
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: MarVelo on Sun 30/10/2005 13:11:08
I like the bottom one use a few shades darker for the eye though.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Sun 30/10/2005 15:58:28
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/almostfinishedmac.PNG)
Is that okay?

Andail: I know its stealing ( :P) but can i possibly use the body sprite, you were so kind to make. The main reasons i got for using it is that im not very good at drawing bodies, and i suffer from severe laziness. ;D
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Afflict on Wed 09/11/2005 19:05:17
Personaly alotugh they are good sprites I dont think any of them do justice to the legend we call Macgyver!

Use it dont use it... Not even Andails but good character sprite!
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: MarVelo on Thu 10/11/2005 00:55:55
Might want to try modeling the face more after the man.


(http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/8967/macgyver0pp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Try to get the arch-edy part in the middle of the hair
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Kinoko on Thu 10/11/2005 01:34:42
I think the face of your latest sprite is just too round. RDA has a rather ... well, not a thin face at all but well defined cheek bones so I suggest making the sides of his head straighter. Try to get that light/dark contrast in the hair too. Your sprites hair looks curly, too, which isn't the right look.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Afflict on Thu 10/11/2005 19:08:57
(http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/8239/macafflict3ye.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Its a MAC attack!!
Honestly it took me about 30 mins :o

And a little bigger would be nice :) my bad...
(http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/97/image38at.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Stefano on Thu 10/11/2005 21:37:47
I've also gave it a shot (took me like 30 min). the result was... well... crappy.  ;D
It's a though task to come up with something that resembles Richard Dean Andersen, with a hand full of pixels... but since I did it why not share? :P
(http://www.stefano.mega.nom.br/myownmac3.PNG)
2X
(http://www.stefano.mega.nom.br/myownmac3.PNG)

Cheers and good luck, vict0r.
Stefano
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Afflict on Fri 11/11/2005 15:15:54
Dude complements on the awesome RDA!
I really think that looks good! Can you PM me the steps you followed to do that?
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: MarVelo on Sat 12/11/2005 02:29:01
Dude! Thats great square up the jaw and its perfect.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Afflict on Fri 18/11/2005 18:31:39
What do you guys think about my new one...

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9269/mac33ht.png) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9269/mac33ht.png)

Still using Andail body but look at the difference...

BTW thanks for bbcode never knew about it!
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Joelman on Fri 18/11/2005 19:05:44
definitly getting there man,
MacGuyver would make a frikkin awesome game, I can't wait.

just a quick thought,
macguyver wears one of those flight jackets, it seems to me it should be a little more loose around his torso, and a little more snug around his waist.

haHA, MacGuyver is so cool.
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Nikolas on Sun 20/11/2005 06:56:20
Afflict: Very good but too short. He is taller/slimer. But other than that perfect.
Who is making the game/graphics. you or Victor?
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: linus on Sun 20/11/2005 12:35:21
My take on it...

(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/183/mac3ji.png) (http://imageshack.us)

x2
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5233/macx20te.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Stefano on Sun 20/11/2005 14:35:50
This would be a good theme for a Sprite Jam competition.
Every body likes to draw Mr. Mac.  ;)
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: vict0r on Sun 20/11/2005 15:44:52
Quote from: Nikolas on Sun 20/11/2005 06:56:20
Who is making the game/graphics. you or Victor?

I am making the graphics :P Even though it may not seem that way :P I think ill use the last one i made, but by all means, continue drawing macs ;D Thanks for all posts and critics :D
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: MarVelo on Tue 22/11/2005 22:22:02
Walkcyclakleic!


Poor------

(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2930/macani0my.gif) (http://imageshack.us)

I think his coat moves to much when he steps with his right (our left) leg. But Victor or someone can fix that!
Title: Re: Mac's back
Post by: Afflict on Tue 22/11/2005 22:38:25
Quote from: Nikolas on Sun 20/11/2005 06:56:20
Afflict: Very good but too short. He is taller/slimer. But other than that perfect.
Who is making the game/graphics. you or Victor?

Thank you been working on my graphic skill, getting there slowly.
Victor is doing the graphics have been wondering if I shouldnt
do the MacGyver game I wanted to do a little while ago...
Abandoned the prohect due to the fact that Fan games arent
really my thing. Ill rather create my own story, 'll look into it if
my other projects grant me the time.

As for the idea of Sprite Jam, looks like everybody is having a field
day with Mac ;)

Ps: taffytom the walkcycle needs more frames...

once again thanks you...

Ok started turning his a head what do you think?
(http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/7361/3headed29cc.png) (http://imageshack.us)

2x
(http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/7361/3headed29cc.png)