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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Fri 03/06/2005 17:46:15

Title: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Fri 03/06/2005 17:46:15
(http://img195.echo.cx/img195/9039/j3kj.png)

Well. I was looking at other people's work and for some reason this just doesnt look normal. Idk man I spent a good 30-45 mins on it. Tried to make the jeans look as jeansy as possible.

I use Photoshop 5.5, and this would be the character I would use for my game that I'm going to make. Lol, I haven't even finished going through the tutorial.
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Ali on Fri 03/06/2005 18:12:57
The design of the character is very nice, but it might not look 'normal' for a few reasons...

1. You've used double pixels - look at the inside of his left arm. The line would look smoother if you changed the corners from:

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to:
     @@@@
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2. You've used areas of flat colour and areas of smooth shading. Have a go at limitting youself to 3 shades per area of colour - hilight, normal and shadow.

3. The trousers are textured - that will be very hard to animate. Again, try using a few colours. Jeans are tricky, why not give him a hole in the knee, or pockets and cuffs.

4. You've used black outlines- a matter of taste, but many people prefer to use a darker shade of whatever colour they're outlining.

A nice character overall though!
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Oliver on Fri 03/06/2005 20:20:12
I'm not really the person to do paintovers but I gave it a little try. I used Paint Shop Pro 7. So, I got rid of the black outlines and cleared the outlines of the body a bit. Also I tried to shade it, but I'm not really good at shading... at all. And I also redid the pants completely and the shoes too. I added a belt too, pants need a belt so they wouldn't fall down you know, and it looks cooler too with the belt.  Anyway It looks much better without the black outlines, don't you think?

(http://www.hot.ee/olluke/dude.png)

Oh yeah, and I love the character, it has this cool style or whatever.
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Sat 04/06/2005 00:04:05
Thanks for the kind words. Great tips. I like the one that you did better. It looks a little normal now. I'm going to go try again.


Question: What is the difference between photoshop and image ready?



Here's my remake:

(http://img27.echo.cx/img27/7308/jcopy4mq.png)

Changes:

No more black outlines
Fixed the Double Pixel overlapping thing
Redid the legs
Redid the shoes
Added tear in left pantleg
Added belt
Added pockets
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Sat 04/06/2005 00:25:46
BEFORE[/u] and AFTER[/u]


(http://img195.echo.cx/img195/9039/j3kj.png)(http://img27.echo.cx/img27/7308/jcopy4mq.png)
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Oliver on Sat 04/06/2005 09:08:59
The shoes are still weird. Try making them like I did in my paintover, they don't look like shoes right now.
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: HillBilly on Sat 04/06/2005 09:25:54
The blue on his pants is very hard on the eyes. Try giving him a softer colour.
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: . on Sat 04/06/2005 09:38:22
His neck is too thin make it biger
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Andail on Sat 04/06/2005 09:38:51
Yeah, change the colours. Right now he looks like a living tribute to Sweden.

Also, try giving him some more distinct facial features.
You could also work on his pose, give him something more expressive.
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Sat 04/06/2005 17:46:12
Eh..The colors I can do..but the neck, that's kind part of the style/character.

The shoes? I'll try.


(http://img195.echo.cx/img195/9039/j3kj.png)(http://img27.echo.cx/img27/7308/jcopy4mq.png)(http://img211.echo.cx/img211/2218/jcopy21gm.png)


Changes:
-Changed jeans color
-Changed shirt color
-Fixed some double-pixels
-Added gotee
-Redid shoes
-Many minor changes.
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Ali on Sat 04/06/2005 22:08:10
I like the improvements you've made and I agree that the skinny neck is better.


I do think that the tear in the jeans is nicer in the secod sprite however, and... I think the guy looks a little young to have grown that beard. He looks like he might be plucking up the courage to buy his first under-age pint.

Hail Sweden!
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Sun 05/06/2005 00:55:30
Lol, any more suggestions?
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Sun 05/06/2005 01:06:12
(http://img211.echo.cx/img211/2218/jcopy21gm.png)
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Babar on Sun 05/06/2005 01:10:41
nice! but the beard looks too fine now.
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Sun 05/06/2005 01:12:01
I figured that out. But, the thing that took me so long was to figure out that you couldn't put 3x and you had to actually calculate the size.
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Raider on Sun 05/06/2005 01:43:57
Just changed the shirt around the neck.
It was bugging me, but I don't know if it's what you want.
(http://img180.echo.cx/img180/5622/jcopy21gm21cw.png)
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Sun 05/06/2005 01:47:02
It's supposed to be an undershirt, and your paint over looks better, and I need to redo the shoes. :\
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Oliver on Sun 05/06/2005 08:09:31
The jeans defenately need more shading, and the shoes seem to be the biggest problem at the moment. :P
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Sun 05/06/2005 17:12:43
Right..I will redo that but I need help..is there anyway to erase one pixel at at ime in photoshop rather than draw over it with white?
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Sun 05/06/2005 17:25:35
(http://img252.echo.cx/img252/9153/jcopy36hr.png)

3x

(http://img252.echo.cx/img252/9153/jcopy36hr.png)
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: InCreator on Sun 05/06/2005 18:57:40
Heh, you have 3 shade-color body parts on this (quite interesting and stylish) sprite, so I just wonder why you didn't use them?

I didn't add more colors, just used yours.

Also, I desaturated (and added some green) to pants color.

(http://www.increator.pri.ee/i/critshelp/edit_xxx.png)
Title: Re: My character...criticize please.
Post by: Intoxicatedowl8 on Mon 06/06/2005 06:30:11
OMGÃ,  :o

that is so ownage! thank you that looks 100x better.


(http://www.increator.pri.ee/i/critshelp/edit_xxx.png)