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Title: My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: n00bie on Fri 08/08/2003 13:25:08
(http://www.geocities.com/royaumega/game.txt)

Hi all, I'm a new guy around here. I thought I'd have something to show for myself before I posted here, so here's a background I drew, plus I added a few characters as well, to give you an idea of my drawing style. Constructive criticism and the like will be welcomed.

edit: Just edited to say that I'm aware the market stall isn't finished yet, in case some of you picked up on it.
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: Vel on Fri 08/08/2003 13:39:04
For a first bg, it seems pretty good. You could work on the perspective though.
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: D · Y · D · O on Fri 08/08/2003 13:43:52
I disagree, an isometric perspective might just be what he's going for. It also avoids scaling issues.
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: Ishmael on Fri 08/08/2003 14:58:51
I like the style... :D
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: TheDude on Fri 08/08/2003 15:39:52
I like it. The only thing i don't like is that the bushes kinda look like green puddles of acid or something depending on how you look at them, try and make them more 3D. Good work!
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: Rincewind on Fri 08/08/2003 17:39:22
Yeah, for being your first background in MSPaint, it's really impressive!
You sure are a lot better than than I was when I started out... :)

My only critisism would be that the cardboard box looks a bit akward. It hasn't got a shadow, first of all, and secondly, the white paper/fabric on top of it also looks a bit out of place.

But on the whole, it's a great style and a nice background.
Keep on working, I'd love to see a game looking like this.
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: 12431 on Fri 08/08/2003 20:23:01
This might just be me, but I think some pictures look cool when their off perspective. GREAT WORK (for a beginner)!
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: LGM on Fri 08/08/2003 20:54:03
Man. If you're this good in MSPaint.. The wonders you can do in Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro.

Great work.. i like the discreet texturing done with the Spray can. And I LOVE the guy in the white shirt... Nice style.. But you might want to give that devil guy some Crimson outlines.

Keep it up!
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: cpage on Sat 09/08/2003 00:25:56
You did this great :)

you pulled it off well but personally I prefer to avoid
the spray can
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: Flippy_D on Sat 09/08/2003 13:04:36
This looks utterly insane. The only place where I find fault with the perspective is the box/brick/cloth myriad. Otherwise, very nice.
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: loominous on Sat 09/08/2003 13:32:15
It has some sort of consistency which makes it very likeable imo.

One matter would be the colorintensity which makes it a bit hard on the eye.

To fix it now in mspaint would take some work but for your next pic you could try using the colors in the lower section of the colorchart which shows when you click on a color in the lower menu n then 'define colors' (see pic below)

(http://w1.865.telia.com/~u86517124/Downloadable/colorintensity.jpg)
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: Ali on Sat 09/08/2003 14:57:38
This is a very pleasant image, I think all you need is a little more consistency with shadows- the walls cast shadows over your curb, but the curb didn't cast any shadow.

I hope you don't mind, but I had a go at tweaking the white sheet and the box. Unless the sheet was meant to be caught in the wind, I think it looks more natural like this, though I'm not sure about the shadow from the box. The light's at a very tricky angle, you might have been right not to give it a shadow.:

(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://themonkeyhut.tripod.com/N00biespic.gif)



I love the way there is a devil with a top-hat and cane standing by him, but the bald guy seems more annoyed that someone left a box in the street!
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: n00bie on Sat 09/08/2003 16:20:10
Thanks for the replies, guys.

Loominous, I thought the colours were a bit bright, as I myself was having problems when I placed the bald guy by the wall and saw that he almost 'blended' into it. I don't have any of those proper programs like PSP, but I do have this default program called M-Soft photo editor, which allows you to adjust the colouring.

Ali, thanks for the picture, that shading and cloth image works great, I've added it to the background. The shading on the box is a little awkward to calculate accurately, I agree, but I'm just going to stick one of those small red fire-hose like things they have in America (don't know what they're called), on the corner of the street, to detract attention away from it.

TheDude, I see where you're coming from, and I'm gonna address the problem. To everyone else, thanks for the replies, praise, opinions and criticisms, it's much appreciated. Cheers.
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: Flippy_D on Sat 09/08/2003 17:02:13
Quote from: N00bie on Sat 09/08/2003 16:20:10
....small red fire-hose like things they have in America (don't know what they're called)

Fire hydrants, I believe.  :)
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: n00bie on Wed 13/08/2003 17:11:58
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/dswe.PNG)

Updated picture. I took out all the shading in the end, because it was a pain and I'm no good at it. And I can't draw fire hydrants either, so I just put a bin there.
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: Flippy_D on Wed 13/08/2003 17:39:33
The reds and greens on the fruit stall are probably a little too saturated for my taste, but that's being very finicky. Nice bin.
The barrel of the gun is very long, I'd consider shortening it.

Good work.
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: 12431 on Wed 13/08/2003 17:54:23
make a pic where that dude gets shot! (I'm gonna get mocked for this one)

no joke, I love your style.
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: n00bie on Thu 21/08/2003 14:49:21
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Alleyway.PNG)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Celerano_Alley_Entrance.PNG)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Celerano_High_Street.PNG)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Rockovelle's_Home.PNG)
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: on Thu 21/08/2003 14:53:52
I really like the isometric nature of some of the backgrounds, I think it works well and you've certainly done well using MS Paint!

However, I feel the consistency might annoy the player somewhat. (Well, it probably won't, but if you were looking hard it might)...

For example, the last background with the seal thing in a bucket thing, isn't isometric. Neither is the "Staff Only" background (although that one in my eye still "conforms" because it is very... Well, not sure of the word, but parralel. Or something!) . I think if you draw some in iso style, (which you have) you should do that with all the backgrounds (it might work, it might not) except close-ups.

Or, you could just mix and match.

What i'm saying is, I like the isometric style! :P

8)
m0ds
Title: Re:My first background (MSPaint)
Post by: earlwood on Sat 23/08/2003 03:29:18
I like this style as well, its cool looking, but whats with the box with a rag and soap on it  :) ?