Nature on sunset - kind a picture tutorial

Started by Sektor 13, Tue 28/02/2006 18:14:53

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Tuomas

What I'd like to know is, where does the golden water come from. As Snarky said, it looks like there's another edge where the water falls, as the horizon stops a bit too close.

Then about the water rushing over the edge. Unlike some people said, I think the water looks just fine despite the colour. The way the river seems to flow onwards doesn't suggest to very much speed. More like calmly floating towards the edge, and therefore it would not jump far from the edge. Otherwise, the water'd need some angle and waves to it too lok like it's going fast.

Helm

QuoteThough your point is valid, Helm, I think the obviously artificial characteristics of the landscape gives it an interesting science fiction feel, like the constructed habitats in Ringworld or Iain Banks' Culture novels.

I agree that this feeling is achieved, or that now that you've rationalized it I cannot help but humour the notion that this occurs, it's not easy to say what goes on. I still think it's better to not risk this, and create naturalistic terrain.
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Sektor 13

Actually I wanted to add moving space ship on that flat part, hovering above the field...

I will try to modified it a bit...

Tomas

So, any takes on my paint-over? Anyone? Sektor 13, would you consider any of the changes I did for an updated version of your pic?

Sektor 13

Quote from: Tomas on Thu 02/03/2006 18:23:00
So, any takes on my paint-over? Anyone? Sektor 13, would you consider any of the changes I did for an updated version of your pic?

Yes, i am already updating my picture, i have darken some "back" parts as you suggested (drawed) (i will not add the tree because i need place for "new game, load game..."signs on the left side, as the moving ship will be on the right side , althou the tree looks very good) You used some "dream" blur effect it all looks a bit dreamy :) which is good and i am considering it, I added some "bumps" to the field on the right, made a river less streight and darkened the cliff and falling water.

here it is, althou it is not final (i might darken some parts even more, like in Tomass picture).

Anian

that's beautiful that is, sorry no idea how to make it better

how cool would a siloughette figure of a warrior/spearmen watching the sunset look ;D
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Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens

What you could do is place another line of mountains against the backdrop at around 60% transparent or so.  This would make the distance look less flat but still retain much of the work you've done on the sky.  Looks beautiful, by the way.

Mordalles

i would add mountains like progz says, but don't make them transparent, just make them a lighter colour than the mountains infront, a colour closer to the sky.

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Tomas

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Quote from: Mordalles on Fri 03/03/2006 22:56:39
i would add mountains like progz says, but don't make them transparent, just make them a lighter colour than the mountains infront, a colour closer to the sky.

You know, I think that's exactly what ProgZmax said. :) And I agree about this. On my first paint-over I actually experimented with something like this, but I thought it looked a bit weird (the way I did it), so I decided not to show it. It looked as if the water was appearing out of nothing and what not.

If anyone wants to see it or if Sektor 13 would want to use it as some sort of reference - here it is. It's not perfect or anything, and quite sketchy, but maybe it will give some ideas.


DutchMarco

Sektor 13, a fabulous looking piece of art. In fear of repeating other comments, there are 3 small things that keep it from being perfect (imho):

1) single mountains don't look natural. Keep the valley idea (no mountains in the middle of the horizon) but put some vague mountains on either side, behind the existing ones.

2) the waterfall will have eroded the edge. This waterfall just seems like a "brand new" straight edge.

3) I think the darker water in Tomas' drawing is more realistic, just like the darker cliff face.

I like what you did to roughen up the terrain a bit, it makes it more natural. Keep up the good work!

biothlebop

I think the main problem with the picture at the moment is the sun and the horizon line. The river could look like that if it was new/temporary (after a period of heavy rain). I think the main problem is the horizon's blurriness and the gradiation around the sun. As it is, it looks like the planet has a huge atmosphere of gas that reflects in the particles in the air.  Since the horizon is so blurry, it suggests that it is far away and fogged out by the atmosphere, which makes the river look broader in the far edge. I'd try to define the sun better, and reduce the number of colors in the sky.
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