A story about a girl. (sorry if this isn't exactly general discussion)

[Babar]

The white knight re-appears!

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PS: You've not heard of Naipaul? Anyhow, being an asshole doesn't make you a bad writer. In most cases it seems to help .

I prefer the oldies anyhow. Aristotle! St. Augustine!  


Yay women!

[InCreator]

To assume that anyone who defends women's rights is some how 'white knighting' is *even more* insulting that the stereotypical bullshit you were espousing earlier.

Being insulted due some guy saying something on internet not about you is of course totally not white knighting.
I think that people who get insulted by all kinds of irrelevant shit are sissies and should grow balls. This is absolutely not tied to what the topic is, just in general, be it politics, religion or any other hot topic. If it's not your ballpark and you're treating "the victim(s)" as any of them ask for your fucking whiny help, well...
as for stereotyping, I don't truly see any laws against it. What are YOU afraid of? So what even if someone did the "black people" version? Did black people ask you to defend them? Are you black? Woman? Jew? Muslim? Bodyguard of God? <etc discussion victim here> Or whatever other example! Mind your own business.
I'm honestly sorry that you happened to be that guy

[Atelier]

It was a joke.

[LimpingFish]

Calling out fellow dudes because they have a chauvinistic opinion of women is fine. I do it all the time. It's not because I feel that I need to protect women, but because chauvinism, regardless of target, is behavior I feel the world in general could do without. I feel exactly the same about feminism, racism, or any form of supremacist leaning in general.

Most -ism's aren't much fun.

-asms, on the other hand, are awesome!

[InCreator]

Eh, not worth forum drama anyway. Let's start annual politics & religion thread!
I can start with some highly politically incorrect claim

[Stupot]

Most -ism's aren't much fun.

-asms, on the other hand, are awesome!

\ /

It's just a bit of banter.   Women moan and joke about men all the time, and it doesn't offend us the males among us (does it?  I hope not...).  And besides, most of my female friends would probably laugh at some of the comments in this thread because they have a healthy sense of banter.  They certainly wouldn't be offended and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't expect any males to be offended on their behalf.

[Dualnames]

To assume that anyone who defends women's rights is some how 'white knighting' is *even more* insulting that the stereotypical bullshit you were espousing earlier.

Being insulted due some guy saying something on internet not about you is of course totally not white knighting.
I think that people who get insulted by all kinds of irrelevant shit are sissies and should grow balls. This is absolutely not tied to what the topic is, just in general, be it politics, religion or any other hot topic. If it's not your ballpark and you're treating "the victim(s)" as any of them ask for your fucking whiny help, well...
as for stereotyping, I don't truly see any laws against it. What are YOU afraid of? So what even if someone did the "black people" version? Did black people ask you to defend them? Are you black? Woman? Jew? Muslim? Bodyguard of God? <etc discussion victim here> Or whatever other example! Mind your own business.
I'm honestly sorry that you happened to be that guy

So when we see someone that gets treated bad, we should just turn to apathy? Is that how it should have worked so far?

We should start a general topic.

[Babar]

I'd like to point out (and not just as a response to you, Duals), nobody was actually being "treated bad" here. I can't speak for everyone in this thread, but I'm really pretty sure that when someone says that beer is better than women, they don't actually literally mean that women are inferior to a bottled beverage. It's a joke.

And yeah, some people might whine and moan about tasteless jokes, but...poo .

There really was no ideal of womaniness that was being attacked in here so that someone needed to come in and feel good about themselves by defending it.

Yeah....so anyhow.....
This is the story of a girl
Who cried a river and drowned the whole world
And while she looked so sad in photographs....
I absolutely love her, when she smiles

[m0ds]

Bar brawl, 30 people vs Calin 

[Snake]

CALIN! I choose you!

Use Hair Swish!

[Dualnames]

Iceygames I choose YOU!!

Use SPELL-ING!

[Blackthorne]

I'm married, and I love my wife.  I love women.  They're awesome.

However, as a gender, they can sometimes be..... to put it professionally, Nuckin' Futs.  Often they rule with impulse and emotion, and can make strange demands - like to give back any and all gifts given over a series of years.

You're completely entitled to tell her no, or if you're so inclined, utterly destroy the gifts, and return the rubble to her.

Now, don't let this one crazy girl turn you off to women.  When you meet the right one, one's who's got JUST as much crazy as you do, it's magic and it's great.  It's tricky, but they do come along.... often when you're not looking.  I met my wife a few months after a horrible breakup with a girlfriend of two years.  I was totally not looking, and not into love at all and it found me.  So, it happens.  Good luck.

Bt

[Snake]

Iceygames I choose YOU!!

Use SPELL-ING!

And in one fell swoop of Calin's Hair Swish attack, Iceygames has fallen!

Seriously, Duals? You honestly thought your Icey's Spelling Attack was any match for my CalinLeafshade's?? NOBODY'S spelling is a threat to Calin's ability to correct it! HOOAH!

\\--EDIT--//
And also, I agree with Blackthorne. Don't be put off because of one wierd chick. There's a million more out there.

[Dualnames]

\\--EDIT--//
And also, I agree with Blackthorne. Don't be put off because of one wierd chick. There's a million more out there (to put you off).

Exactly!

[VvSch]

Hello Erenoth02,

  I'd like to return to the original thread and first of all let me say that I feel very sorry for you. It must have been a real hard shock, since I'm sure you cared a lot (still do?) about her.

Hmmm, what would be good, sensible advice...

The most important thing of all is that you need closure. You need to know FOR YOURSELF what your position is.

  First of all, I would recommend you to decide, firmly, how you would like your relationship with her to be. There are two options: Either choose a clean break and never see her again, or try to get her back. I would avoid any middle ground. Really.

  If you pick the first option, tell her personally. Be honest and direct. (Practice if you need to). No excuses, and no ifs and buts. She goes her way, you go yours. Say it’s for the best, and gently advise her against contacting you. Please understand that this doesn’t mean you don’t have to be civil if you see her at some social gathering. You should be. No need to be rude or cool. Just keep it professionally polite. Behave like she’s like no different from any other person there.

This is one way of having closure. The relationship has past, it’s closed off and you move on.

  The second option is to get her back. This is, obviously, much harder and requires total commitment.

  The first thing to do is find out what actually happened. What should you do? Talk with her father. Not only does he seem to be more reasonable, he’s a guy and it will be easier to communicate. He will know what’s going on, but will also see your position. Besides, if you want his daughter he has to know and respect you, right? So, have a man-to-man talk. Make clear she is worth fighting for and you intend to do just that. If he likes you, he will help you!
  The second step is to talk to her. In a similar fashion as mentioned before. Tell her you want her, and you’ll fight to have her. Be honest and direct. (Practice if you need to). No excuses, and no ifs and buts.
  If you know what happened, take action accordingly. Get rid of Zack. Meet with him and talk to him. Tell him to back off, because she’s your girl. You love her, and if he won’t listen, tell him the consequences of not listening. If he’s smart, he’ll cut his losses.

  The great thing about the second option is that she (even if she won’t admit it) will be totally admiring you. In a relationship, women look first of all for a man who will be a good provider and who will be able to protect the family. It’s an evolutionary fact. You don’t have to be very handsome to get the girls, you just have to be confident and show it. A woman needs to know, really KNOW, she can trust you. Trust you to take care of her, the relationship and the family.

  And this leads me to my last paragraph. Please understand that what I’m about to say is meant with the utmost gentleness and genuine desire to help you.

Erenoth02, you need to stand up for yourself.

I’m sure you’re an incredibly nice person, undoubtedly intelligent, creative, very likely good-looking and physically fit.

Nevertheless.... you let others walk all over you, and you APOLOGIZE to them for doing so. I can’t say how your relationship was with her, but this behaviour could not have helped you.

In this situation, and others in the future, it will be a credit to you to stand your ground and keep things clear.

Anyway, I hope things will work out for you, no matter what you decide to do.

[Erenoth02]

While I do have the means to stand my ground and stand up for myself, It seems that this area of washington state is overly favorable towards women, I have seen a lot of my friends and other guys spend time in jail because they stood up for themselves and refused to apologize for things that were not their fault.

My own father even warns me against it, which I cannot blame him for, he saw one of his own employees put into jail because he refused to admit that he threw his own daughter to the floor, he was always the nicest guy however he was firm and refused to apologize for things that were not his fault, when it happened his daughter was climbing on him trying to get a piggy back (his wife was also an employee of my father) he told his daughter firmly to get down since he was working and she fell, while he tried to catch her to onlookers it did look like he threw her.

His wife took his side until another female employee meddled and called the police, the police believed her and eventually his wife was convinced... shes remarried now, hes in jail, and I often awkwardly run into her at the athletic gym in town but we both ignore each other.



While I may be completely wrong, I admit I am inexperienced, I also may not know the full stories of the other people Ive seen screwed over by the police for dating the wrong girl. With the current trend of police tending to strongly favor women Ive been overly cautious and apologetic.

[Layabout]

Have sex with her sister.

[Stupot]

We need a 'like' button, haha.