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Title: Evil Dead 4
Post by: RetroJay on Fri 16/04/2010 01:29:28
Hi all good peeps.

Just finished watching "Evil Dead 3- Army Of Darkness".

I have watched all three films... Many times before (Cos I love them) ;D

I did a bit of Googling and found that there is talk of an 'Evil Dead 4' where Bruce Campbell may have a cameo role.
Now I don't know if anyone here would agree with me...But.

After watching Mr Campbells facial features I couldn't but help to see Jim Carrey!!

I Think that he would make a fantastic 'Ash' in another 'Evil Dead' film.

Many kind regards.
Jay.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Captain Ricco on Fri 16/04/2010 02:49:03
I actually thought it was Jim Carey for a while during the first film when i watched itt for the first time :P

But I dont think the king can be replaced, even by JC
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Matt Frith on Fri 16/04/2010 02:56:17
Pretty sure  Evil  Dead 4 will never be made.  I also hope JC will never play Ash as that would offend me greatly.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Fri 16/04/2010 02:58:23
Jim Carrey as Ash?  Did you seriously just write that?  Worse...do you seriously believe he's a patch on The Chin's ass?

Wow.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Dualnames on Fri 16/04/2010 08:28:40
I like JC, but I have to agree with the rest, he'd probably kill the series.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Anian on Fri 16/04/2010 09:13:33
Aren't those movies in "just so great because they're so bad" and "awesome" category? I don't know if that movie would stand a chance with they way production changed over the year...not to say that stuff made these is not mostly crap though.
What I mean is that I just don't see those kind of films made today.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: LGM on Fri 16/04/2010 09:43:07
Sam Raimi is still making them. See: Drag Me to Hell.

Raimi has consistently expressed interest in making Evil Dead 4. So has Campbell. Honestly, though, it's one of those things that happens. Directors, writers, actors can say whatever they want. To be honest, I highly doubt a sequel is going to happen. There's still a chance of a Raimi-produced remake, but again, I doubt it. Campbell won't even reprise his role as Elvis in Bubba Nosferatu, so why would he try to reprise the role of Ash. They are smart enough to leave it well enough alone, methinks.

But it's okay. Chances are high that Evil Dead 4 would've sucked, anyhow.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Pixelton on Fri 16/04/2010 11:34:28
I have heard that the Evil Dead is to be remade - that seems to be the way these days with horror and the'Naughties' cinema. If they're not remaking Japanese Horror's they're remaking making 70's/early 80's horror.

(Theres only so many ways you can skin a cat with a chainsaw....)
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Chicky on Fri 16/04/2010 12:01:37
Evil Dead is awesome, no need for a re-make or a sequel. Carrying on from Army of Darkness, seriously?

If you want some more Campbell they watch 'My name is Bruce'  :=
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Stupot on Fri 16/04/2010 14:01:31
I've nothing against Carrey.  His chosen some good roles, and ended up with some right duffers.  He probably could pull off a decent Ash, but it would be little more than an impersonation, an homage, to Bruce's Ash.

I would like to see another Evil Dead, though.  I love those films.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Captain Ricco on Fri 16/04/2010 15:11:58
We will always have comics :P
(http://movie-poster.ws/movies/wallpaper/scifi/horror/images/freddy_vs_jason.jpg)
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Misj' on Fri 16/04/2010 16:31:33
Quote from: Captain Ricco on Fri 16/04/2010 15:11:58We will always have comics :P
Not to mention the musical ;)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51VfMKF7yfL._SS500_.jpg) (http://www.evildeadthemusical.com/)
-- click for official site --

(and I wouldn't even mind seeing it...)
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: LGM on Fri 16/04/2010 18:12:42
I read the treatment for Freddy vs Jayson vs Ash.. It wasn't bad.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: mkennedy on Sat 17/04/2010 07:09:17
Quote from: Chicky on Fri 16/04/2010 12:01:37
Evil Dead is awesome, no need for a re-make or a sequel. Carrying on from Army of Darkness, seriously?


Wasn't there an alternate ending to "Army of Darkness"? If so what exactly happened in it? Maybe it would be be usable for a sequel.

Also I'm surprised nobody's made a fan game of "Evil Dead/Army of Darkness" (Hint, Hint!)
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Stupot on Sat 17/04/2010 08:16:54
There was this fun-sounding game on the C64:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/c64/evil-dead/screenshots

As well as a couple of PS2 games.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Sat 17/04/2010 08:26:04
The alternate ending was Ash took a rip van winkle potion from the 'wiseguy' at the end so he'd wake up in his own time, only it made him sleep an extra hundred years and he woke up after the Deadite Apocalypse (with a very long beard).   Of the two endings it leant itself better towards an immediate sequel, but most people (aside from Raimi) felt it was giving Ash too much shit after all the shit he'd been through so they went with the happier S-Mart ending.  Ultimately I prefer the S-Mart ending since it does leave room for more Deadite slaying fun, and if they made a sequel it could show the gradual progression towards what Ash saw in the future.  No true sequel is likely to ever be made, though.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: mkennedy on Sat 17/04/2010 19:41:17
That other ending sounds cool, I was thinking maybe Ash's actions end up somehow changing the present. Maybe the wizard could reverse engineer his car and learn from the books he brought with him to advance the technology before it's time.



Yeah, I've got two Evil Dead games, "Hail to the King" and "Regeneration"

http://www.mobygames.com/game/evil-dead-hail-to-the-king
http://www.mobygames.com/game/evil-dead-regeneration

Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: LimpingFish on Sat 17/04/2010 21:58:59
Having played all the games based on The Evil Dead, I can honestly say that none of them have been much good.

HTTK is a Resident Evil clone which, although managing to evoke some nostalgia in the opening stages, shoots itself in the foot with horrible controls and awkward camera angles.

A Fistful of Boomstick is far more playable, being little more than a third-person beat/hack/shoot 'em-up, but never really gels.

Regeneration is just more Boomstick, with a better, though still fairly average, story. The addition of a half-deadite sidekick grates.

Ironically, the ancient C64 adaption is pretty much closest to the spirit of the original movie.

As for the movies themselves, Army of Darkness seems to be the one that splits the fans. I like it a lot. Funnily enough, I'm pretty much of the opinion that the S-Mart ending is far superior to the apocalypse ending; the complete opposite of how Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell see it.

I wouldn't say there definitely won't be a fourth entry (Raimi is off Spiderman, and The Shadow - which he is producing - isn't due until 2012), as he could always pull a Drag Me to Hell with it, and go low-budget.

Bruce Campbell is 51, though, and seems more interesting in playing Bruce Campbell these days.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/BruceCampbellUSONov09.JPG/220px-BruceCampbellUSONov09.JPG)

He's also starting to look like a weird hybrid of Robert Culp and James Garner.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Sat 17/04/2010 23:29:45
He just needs to get some weight off, is all.  He porked up quite a bit for Burn Notice.  He didn't look too bad in My Name Is Bruce but he was still a bit heavy.


I do agree that the games have not really done the movies any kind of justice so far, which is a shame.  The interesting thing is that I have yet to play any horror movie license to game that wasn't utter garbage (LJN: Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street, The Thing, I'm talking 'bout you).

I can't see why anyone would have trouble enjoying Army of Darkness, really.  It was the culmination of all the schtick and in-jokes of Evil Dead 1 and 2 plus a larger budget and more ass kicking.  Can't really ask for more than that.  
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: on Sun 18/04/2010 03:05:37
Quote from: ProgZmax on Sat 17/04/2010 23:29:45
I can't see why anyone would have trouble enjoying Army of Darkness, really.

Agreed, but Evil Dead 2 turns it up to eleven by being Evil Dead 1 minus ANY attempt to take things serious. It also manages some pretty scary scenes where AoD really is nothing but camp (which might turn people off if they expected a "classic" horror flic). Army of Darkness is the "better sequel", but as a MOVIE I'd prefer Evil Dead 2.
All personal taste though. I even sort of accept that there is The Fly 2.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Chicky on Sun 18/04/2010 13:22:10
The name's Ash, housewares.

This has to be the true ending, for the cult status. End of the world is more up my street though  :)
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: R4L on Mon 19/04/2010 17:02:04
Been researching this for a long time now, and I doubt it will happen. According to everything I've read on fansites Bruce isn't interested and seems rather irritated about it, while Raimi is more than happy to talk about it and says there is a script in the works. I can't remember when I read that though...

IMO the first Evil Dead is the best, simply because of how awesome Raimi and the cast made it despite having a serious limiting budget and crew. The camera work is very guerrilla style, and the commentary I have on my DVD is excellent and points out so many things I never noticed. Like in one scene where Ash is talking to Scotty about how his girlfriend can't stand up. Bruce explains on his commentary track how he had a cold in that scene, and after listening to him in that scene over and over, you can hear how stuffed up he his. :)

I would like to see something new to the series, as long as Jim Carrey isn't playing Ash...
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: RetroJay on Tue 20/04/2010 01:32:58
Quote from: R4L on Mon 19/04/2010 17:02:04
Been researching this for a long time now, and I doubt it will happen. According to everything I've read on fansites Bruce isn't interested and seems rather irritated about it.

That is not what I have heard.

Raimi and Bruce are very good friends.
Also.  Bruce, The Chin, has dropped a few hints that there maybe a fourth film (with himself playing a cameo part).

So There!  ;D
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Tue 20/04/2010 06:38:53
I'd rather it never happened than Bruce reduced to a cameo, fullstop.  There's not a single good reason to continue the franchise without him as the central character.  Not one.  That's on par with Halloween 3 which had a distinct lack of Michael Myers (and goodness).
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Dualnames on Tue 20/04/2010 14:35:55
Quote from: ProgZmax on Tue 20/04/2010 06:38:53
I'd rather it never happened than Bruce reduced to a cameo, fullstop.  There's not a single good reason to continue the franchise without him as the central character.  Not one.  That's on par with Halloween 3 which had a distinct lack of Michael Myers (and goodness).

I mean let's remember all the good movies that went bad, because people thought a cameo might save it. Geez. Evil Dead=Bruce Campell. End of story. It's like Ghostbusters without Bill Murray, Dan Acroyd, and those two guys. It's like Star Trek without Captain Kirk and Spok. It's like Star Wars without a Skywalker. It's like life without meaning. Full stop!
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: R4L on Tue 20/04/2010 21:52:16
Quote from: RetroJay on Tue 20/04/2010 01:32:58
Quote from: R4L on Mon 19/04/2010 17:02:04
Been researching this for a long time now, and I doubt it will happen. According to everything I've read on fansites Bruce isn't interested and seems rather irritated about it.

That is not what I have heard.

Raimi and Bruce are very good friends.
Also.  Bruce, The Chin, has dropped a few hints that there maybe a fourth film (with himself playing a cameo part).

So There!  ;D


I know they're good friends. I'm a fan of all their stuff, especially the early super 8 stuff. Ever watch Within The Woods?

Like I said, I can't remember where I read it, so chances are it's not true.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Chicky on Wed 21/04/2010 00:42:38
YAY FOR 8MM FILM!
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: EKM on Wed 21/04/2010 05:46:02
Huge BC fan here. Even own his first dramatic feature "Going Back."

The way I see it with the Evil Dead franchise is that it should be left where it is. Let the legacy rest. The trilogy is good enough. There's no need to continue it or remake it. Moving on is the best route.

As far as BC is concerned? At age 51, he's doing fine with his current roles. Also, I LOVED "My Name is Bruce" and cannot wait for its sequel "Bruce vs Frankenstein" to come out. As long as he continues doing his outrageous/schlock-tastic films, I'm content.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: xenogia on Wed 21/04/2010 05:55:23
Yeah I don't think an Evil Dead film without Bruce Campbell would do well at all.  In other horror movie marathons, I spent all day today watching the Phantasm films.. hehe.. Yay for being sick.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Wesray on Fri 23/04/2010 21:50:59
In some ways Drag Me To Hell is like an unofficial sequel to the Evil Dead films. Without Bruce Campell, granted.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: R4L on Sat 24/04/2010 07:57:19
Quote from: Wesray on Fri 23/04/2010 21:50:59
In some ways Drag Me To Hell is like an unofficial sequel to the Evil Dead films. Without Bruce Campell, granted.

My thoughts exactly. Like a modern day Evil Dead.
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: Ryan Timothy B on Sat 24/04/2010 13:36:44
Quote from: R4L on Sat 24/04/2010 07:57:19
My thoughts exactly. Like a modern day Evil Dead.

With crazy-ass mouth fetishes!  Every scene something was going into that poor girl's mouth. lol
Title: Re: Evil Dead 4
Post by: R4L on Sat 24/04/2010 16:59:40
Quote from: Ryan Timothy on Sat 24/04/2010 13:36:44
Quote from: R4L on Sat 24/04/2010 07:57:19
My thoughts exactly. Like a modern day Evil Dead.

With crazy-ass mouth fetishes!  Every scene something was going into that poor girl's mouth. lol

How did I miss such an obvious innuendo?  :=