Flaming/trolling: good thing or bad?

DGMacphee · Thu 30/11/2006 04:51:39

Quote from: evenwolf on Wed 29/11/2006 15:13:58
Take DG. He's always on the edge and gets under people's skin (usually individuals at a time) and that's what I associate with "DGMacPhee".

I'm on the edge? When did I become the forum's own Martin Riggs?

Quote from: Ghormak on Wed 29/11/2006 17:15:45
I can't remember having ever seen any proper flaming on these forums. The worst name-calling usually takes the form of "you're stupid if you think that! *smile*". In other communities, you call somebody a "fucking faggot" even when you're helping them with their problems. I know, it's absurd.

I think it's because they're comfortable with each other and not afraid of offending delicate sensitivities. I know this is the case on one other forum I go to. You have guys and girls jesting each other, making fun of others but getting it as good as they give it. It's part of a relaxed atmosphere and no one is overly worried about offending others.

I'm not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing. I'm saying it works in their case. As for AGS, I'm not so sure. I think if we resorted to a lot of playful name-calling, there'd be some people who wouldn't be able to hack it. I reckon there'd be a lot of confusion about what they actual intent was. Like is someone says "hey fucksticks!" I reckon it'll leave some some people thinking, "wait did he really mean to call me a fuckstick for serious or was he just joshin??"

P.S. GARDA!!1!

evenwolf · Thu 30/11/2006 04:54:49

Let's begin with Andy Penis... and we'll wrap up with the time the AGS blue toilet exploded.

DGMacphee · Thu 30/11/2006 05:20:38

I reckon Andy Penis did quite a bit to advance the career of Andy Milonakis.

So yes, in hindsight, not my brightest idea.

Andail · Thu 30/11/2006 09:42:02

GAMUTLOBSTER!
I demand a character who can advance the career of Skyfire.

SSH · Thu 30/11/2006 09:58:49

Quote from: DGMacphee on Thu 30/11/2006 04:51:39
Quote from: evenwolf on Wed 29/11/2006 15:13:58
Take DG. He's always on the edge and gets under people's skin (usually individuals at a time) and that's what I associate with "DGMacPhee".

I'm on the edge? When did I become the forum's own Martin Riggs?

Which reminds me of this

ManicMatt · Thu 30/11/2006 10:29:57

"I'm just pming you to say I'm sorry for being a dick. I have no idea why paki offends you but apparently there's a reason."

Hey look skyfire apologised! By sending me a PM with the very word that offends me in it. What a complete and utter git. I think I will insult him back in a PM, and then block him so I get the last word in. I'm sure that will annoy him greatly!

Becky · Thu 30/11/2006 10:56:22

Geez guys, if someone's annoying you that badly, why don't you just block them in the first place instead of throwing your PMs all over the forums? :/

TheYak · Thu 30/11/2006 11:21:07

Meowster · Thu 30/11/2006 11:33:33

Quote from: Becky on Thu 30/11/2006 10:56:22
Geez guys, if someone's annoying you that badly, why don't you just block them in the first place instead of throwing your PMs all over the forums? :/

SkyFire continually harrasses both Matt and I. He always sends the first nasty PM because he knows that if he said such a thing in public, he'd be banned. I know, as Matt probably does, that showing a moderator some of the things he's sent us (unprovoked, too!) would probably not get him banned, as moderators here are so laid back.

However, by mentioning some of the things in public that he says, I've had great results. He immediately stopped threatening me, although he didn't apologise. I assume Dominos comment about it still being harrassment even over the internet scared him...

Hopefully he'll stop being so sneaky and nasty to members of the AGS forums. If he's not going to be banned, then at the very least I want people to realise what a vile underhand and sneaky little piece of work he is.

Anyway you have to admit that one quote was really, really funny

It's quality stuff. Feel free to experience my rage!

Haddas · Thu 30/11/2006 12:17:23

I apologize for everything.

m0ds · Thu 30/11/2006 12:22:03

Quotewould probably not get him banned, as moderators here are so laid back.

If you want to send me a copy of the PM's, and if Matt can do the same - the moderators can look over this issue seriously. Mods are constantly watching certain members, but we'd need some proof to act.

Meowster · Thu 30/11/2006 12:46:15

I've already let Scotch log into my account to view the PMs... erm... is that enough? I can send you my login details so you can check too... it's kind of a 'lie-proof' way (so you know I haven't edited what he's said or anything).

Thanks M0dski

Sam. · Thu 30/11/2006 12:53:35

If skyfire really sent those messages (which I don't doubt) then some action should be taken, Noone has the right to post random vicious things to people, with no provocation. Manicmatt and I have had our differences, but I know hes a good guy and I wouldn't ever do something to deliberatly offend him, almost everything I've said has been in jest. Skyfire needs to learn how to speak (type) to people.

That wasnt really about trolling, but i wanted to say it. So maybe it was...

Becky · Thu 30/11/2006 13:44:44

QuoteSkyFire continually harrasses both Matt and I. He always sends the first nasty PM because he knows that if he said such a thing in public, he'd be banned. I know, as Matt probably does, that showing a moderator some of the things he's sent us (unprovoked, too!) would probably not get him banned, as moderators here are so laid back.

I agree, trial by public harassment works very effectively, but I don't think the moderators are as laid back and unwilling to take issues seriously as you think, which is why I don't really see the need for a "he-said-she-said" quote fest in a thread that had actually a serious point about trolling and flaming on our forums...

m0ds · Thu 30/11/2006 13:58:07

Well, as far as I'm aware - scotch hasn't presented anything about this to the moderators. I don't really think I also need to delve into your PM's, but it would be good if scotch could post these comments up for the mods in the appropriate place.

QuoteI don't really see the need for a "he-said-she-said" quote fest in a thread that had actually a serious point about trolling and flaming on our forums...

True, but we've already come to the conclusion that a small amount of trolling/flaming is acceptable, but harrasment isn't. So it's a good thread to bring out some of the problems that need ironing out. As for the quote fest, no-one said anything about posting the quotes up in this thread. The ones that have been quoted so far were to make a point.

Andail · Thu 30/11/2006 14:11:13

Allright, moderators will discuss this from now on. We're grateful if any further posts in this thread avoid the Skyfire-issue, lest the thread may be locked.
If you have pertinent information regarding the case, PM a moderator.

So, where were we? Oh yeah, Ghormak sucks.

LimpingFish · Thu 30/11/2006 19:41:10

Flaming Trolls would go down great in WoW!

Meowster · Thu 30/11/2006 19:46:36

You play WoW, limpingfish?

LimpingFish · Thu 30/11/2006 19:50:57

I did, but my trial ran out. And I'm too poor/mean to pay for it.

I was suprised that I enjoyed it more than other MMOs I've played, though.

skyfire2 · Thu 30/11/2006 20:06:12

I'm glad if I ever see anyone like yufster in WoW they will get suspended every day.

Flaming/trolling: good thing or bad?

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