GTA: San Andreas under scrutiny

[TerranRich]

Anyone else hear about this?

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas/635240p1.html

Apparently, just because somebody made a hacked mod of GTA:SA, now it's labelled as Adults Only. Geez, if somebody jokingly made a modification of Super Mario World where the Princess was nude, would Mario World suddenly be labelled "Adults Only"? I think the whole thing is ridiculous. Nobody paraded for an increase in rating for Tomb Raider when the nude mod came out, did they? Geez.

[Miez]

Thing is: the mod they made shows pr0ny content that was already in the game (but hidden). Still a hypocritical move, I think...

[Privateer Puddin']

I like how loads of people are coming out and saying how outrageous it is that their kids are playing it.. totally forgetting you can kill people etc.. it's just silly

[LGM]

OMG. I can steal cars, run over innocent people, shoot cops, start gang wars, sell drugs and buy hookers but OH NOES PIXELLATED SEX, BAD!

I think we should be scrutinizing bad parenting rather than free expression of game companies.

That's the problem with America. Our founding fathers came from a Puritan background and were always taught that nudity and natural sexual actions were a taboo. You were the son of Satan if you wanted to have sex or see a lady naked. This was hypocritical, because sex was vital for the prolonging of their species! It's exactly what's wrong with America today... A little bit of sex and everyone FREAKS OUT!

[HillBilly]

Hey, if we don't watch out, the kids may learn from this game and have SEX!

[Eigen]

Hey, if we don't watch out, the kids may learn from this game and have SEX!

Yeah, and forget to unzip or to take their pants off.

Random kid: "But .... CJ didn't take his pants off..."


-Eigen

[earlwood]

From what I read, you really had to go out of your way to get to this mini-game, which I believe was comfirmed, is reachable on the PS2 version of SA(fully clothed, of course). Ã, 

Since technically, the only ones that are playing the game are peoples 17 years old or older, if a 12 year old sees C.J. get the front of his jeans blown, the parents/guardians are completely at fault.

[Darth Mandarb]

And oddly enough now the game is selling like hot-cakes ...

Hmmm ... I'm sure this wasn't intentional.

[scotch]

Well... it looks like it was left in by mistake to me, but it could be intentional, sure.Ã,  I don't think even the controversy experts at Rockstar could have predicted the uproar though, it's hardly the most offensive thing in San Andreas... I expect they took it out because it was slightly too lame to put in the game.Ã,  The girlfriends thing is bad enough as it is.
Is it selling a lot more now than it was? It's a GTA game, the last two are the highest selling PS2 games by a fair way... like 5 million+ copies each, doesn't really need controversy to sell now.  I hope it is, anyway.

[Mr Flibble]

[Grundislav]

It's been pulled from the shelves in "family-friendly" stores, like Wal-Mart and Target. Ã, The reasoning is because they don't sell games rated Adults Only.

It's kind of funny, really, especially in the case of Wal-Mart, which wouldn't sell Jon Stewart's recent book because it had a photoshopped picture of the Supreme Court Justices' heads on naked bodies. Ã, Oh no, they can't sell books with photoshopped naked pictures, but they can sell ultra-violent videogames. Now that there's sex in it, it suddenyl becomes evil.

The hypocrisy continues...

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

Didn't Wal-Mart sell bullets and ammo? Or was that K-Mart? I think I saw that in Bowling for Columbine...

[Mr Jake]

Wal-Mart sells the shotguns in their stores... The one I saw was near the kids toys too -_-

It is just hypocrisy

[Pumaman]

This really is incredible ... like you guys, I seriously don't understand how they can rate one sex scene as being worse than all the violence and killing. Somebody needs to slap some sense into these people.

[Ghormak]

Meanwhile, morally righteous think-of-the-children man Jack Thompson thinks Sims 2 should be banned too, because you can edit the game to remove the pixellated blur that appears whenever a sim gets naked. Oh no! Barbie genitals! ON CHILDREN! BAN!

[Kweepa]

It's not actually hypocritical - it just shows a different value system than yours or mine. A completely wack value system.

As for the mod, my guess is that Rockstar left it in because it was quicker and less risky from a development perspective than chopping it out. Oops.

What annoys me most about this "controversy" is the overreaction of the politicians. Here's an example:

"It appears that the publisher has blatantly circumvented the rules in order to peddle sexually explicit material to our youth, and they should be held accountable. A company cannot be allowed to profit from deceit." Ref.

The publisher probably didn't know it was still in there, the company is only profiting now that the media and the politicians are making a fuss, and the "youth" they are talking about are the 17 year olds that could buy it as a Mature title but not as an Adults Only title. And the inflammatory "peddle"? Thanks.

[edmundito]

Oh, guys, I'm working on the ags editor Hot Coffee mod. Did you know that chris stuck a naked picture of himself somewhere in the code? And you thought the editor's file size was bigger because there were "new features"!

[Domino]

To quote one Mr. Bruce Campbell which was in a video game magazine awhile back...

"You can cut off a breast, you just can't kiss it"

[Evil]

Chris Jones ASCII nudity!?

84/\/n3DED!!11`

[Paper Carnival]

Someone who downloads the mod online can just as easily download pr0n. If people want to see nudity they don't have to download a stupid mod, they can more easily google for real pics. Oh noes let's ban teh internet!

A quote from a different forum:
I read an article this morning that said a grandmother was going to sue because SHE bought the game for her 14 yr old grandson and was offended by the content. What exactly did she think the M rating meant?