RPGs are similar to baking cakes

the game hackademic · Mon 28/11/2011 07:54:02

Good news guys. I opened up itunes and realised I'm not deaf, it's just the animated gif doesn't have sound.

Bad news: m0ds will have to find a real disabled person to abuse in order to deal with his resentment towards the adventure game genre which died as a result of resentful adventure game designers.

Gilbert · Mon 28/11/2011 08:00:22

Now, my cat makes everyone happy. If this causes the holocaust he doesn't mean it. Forgive him can you?

Brought to you by one who didn't even read any of the threads and wished that this is the only post that remains.

the game hackademic · Mon 28/11/2011 08:10:55

Quote from: m0ds on Mon 28/11/2011 08:07:06
Then of course, you can try and make those internet communities side with you.

Like by making posts saying I urinated on a disabled person? I'd rather not fit in with this community, thank you very much. I shudder to think what the 'test your morality' thread is about.

I hope that cat posted is just sleeping.

the game hackademic · Mon 28/11/2011 08:15:04

This is the last post you'll hear from me - I'm going to sleep. I can sleep at night. Not sure if m0ds can.

ShiverMeSideways · Mon 28/11/2011 08:28:18

Why don't we all just listen to this song and chill out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiCctrKdmKw

Calin Leafshade · Mon 28/11/2011 08:32:52

Quote from: the game hackademic on Mon 28/11/2011 07:39:04
The way they said bodies were gassed and burnt in the holocaust breaks the laws of physics.

Ya gonna have to provide some sources there bucko.

There is significant evidence including testimony from SS officers that the jews were gassed and the bodies burnt.

Holocaust denial is in the same category and moon landing conspiracy theories. The theorist produces arguments and evidence of such an elementary nature that it would be absurd for no one to notice. When presented with this fact they usually claim its an establishment of some kind (government, zionists, whatever) suppressing the truth.

I am sorry to be the one to inform you that it is not the establishment keeping you down but rather it is that you are wholly incorrect.

Snarky · Mon 28/11/2011 08:35:45

Why not delete the Holocaust-denying thread/posts and keep the thread actually making some kind of argument (turgid and mistaken as I find it) about adventure games?

And really, we need CJ to ban someone? Given that he isn't around that much these days, I think we need to find a way for the forums to be less dependent on him.

Gilbert · Mon 28/11/2011 08:43:45

Global mods may be able to ban members too, but we don't always have many active global mods around for this. This just happens occasionally anyway. We're not being attacked by a swarm of flying ~~trolls~~ trouts.

m0ds · Mon 28/11/2011 09:56:02

Cheers!

Dualnames · Mon 28/11/2011 11:27:23

WE GATS A NEW TROLL OMG.
SUPR HAPPY FACE.

And i demand not banning. Because:

@gamehackashitface: I R GUY WHO GUN TITS U LESN ! ! !

ALSO @gamehackmoderngayfuckstupid: I find your posts the best attempt at trolling, I am terribly bad at anti-trolling, but, i am very happy that you came, it has been a bit without a troll.

Dave Gilbert · Mon 28/11/2011 12:43:10

Aww. I was enjoying the other thread. It was like a train wreck. Can't we just leave it locked but visible? As a cautionary tale, perhaps?

the game hackademic · Mon 28/11/2011 13:14:32

Quote from: Dave Gilbert on Mon 28/11/2011 12:43:10
Aww. I was enjoying the other thread. It was like a train wreck. Can't we just leave it locked but visible? As a cautionary tale, perhaps?

I have it saved so I can probably upload it if you want.

I also have m0ds abusive comments directed at the disabled saved, which he claimed he was proud of. Such classics as: "Hope someone pisses in your f**ked up ears, too." Why were they deleted?

monkey0506 · Mon 28/11/2011 14:19:50

If you're allowed to deny the Holocaust (clearly a troll move, designed to do nothing less than stir up debate and get attention, as no one who isn't mentally retarded would actually believe such a troll-lie), then I'm allowed to deny that Mark Effing Lovegrove ever said anything of that nature against you.

Seriously, m0ds may hold prejudices in some degree, but he is in no way an outspoken racist, he is in no way outspoken against the disabled, and just as a catch-all, he is in no way outspoken against any group of people (regardless of the size of the group) for any reason whatsoever, with the sole exception being those who are so mentally deficient as to believe that trolling should be socially acceptable behaviour (and that retaliation and prevention by moderators in a public forum should be considered an actionable offense).

Quote from: TrollhackWhen you bake a cake, the person who wrote the instructions is getting you to use the oven to change the cake mix to a cake. In other words, this is a really shitty game, which amounts to watching something change slowly. Which is what RPGs are, if you take away the story and combat. This is undeniably true. The next time you see 'final fantasy x', you will think 'final fantasy cake-mix'.

If you take away the story and combat, then an RPG video game (which is what you are referring to here, as opposed to a table-top or other type of RPG) would amount to nothing more than running around in a fantasy world. There would be no "watching something change slowly" because without the combat system there would be no leveling system or stats. You've removed the mechanic for which these items existed, thereby negating their very existence. You cannot say that without a story that an RPG video game is like baking a cake, because baking a cake involves specific steps, that executed in order, effect the end result. That, in and of itself, is a story. Perhaps not an interesting or engaging one, but it is a story nonetheless.

"I put the cake mix in a bowl with some milk and eggs. I mixed it together, then poured it into the cake pan. I then put that into the oven which was already preheated to the appropriate temperature. After the allotted time, I had a fully baked cake!"

That is a story. You yourself said that you were removing the story from these RPG games. How do you propose that something can have a story without having a story? Your very argument negates itself.

You also said that it is "undeniably true" although I've just shown exactly how your argument negates itself directly. Therefore you are, yourself, before any of us even comment on it, denying the undeniability of your argument. That pretty much sums up ever attempt you have thus far made at providing a logical statement.

Going back to your argument that any false or unverifiable testimony negates the possibility of truth, I demand that nothing is true, based on the sole testimony of a man who used to live on an asteroid by himself. His testimony, by your logic, means that anyone who says anything to the contrary (i.e., that anything is true, anything at all, even an RPG being like baking a cake), is clearly lying. Everything is therefore false. However, if everything is false, then the statement that everything is false is also inherently false, meaning that at least one thing in all of existence has the possibility of being true. If at least one thing has the possibility of being true, then logically, we must conclude that the statement that nothing is true could possibly be true.

Your logic, it makes perfect sense.

Ghost · Mon 28/11/2011 14:24:47

Be careful about what you construct, hacks. First you said you were deaf. Then you claimed you were not. Now you're twisting words again. We KNOW m0ds, so putting words into his mouth is what one might call a bad move. Not that you've made a wise one so far.

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Oh dang, That WAS troll feeding, right? One day I'll learn.

monkey0506 · Mon 28/11/2011 14:37:54

Oh, and furthermore, I asked you to refute that an apple is like a monkey wrench. I even said "please" (as opposed to "PLZ"). You have failed to do so. If you do not respond within a timely manner I will be forced to conclude that you are ignoring everything I am saying. Considering that some of what I am saying is a logical evaluation of what you have said (i.e., normal discussion), if you are ignoring me then I will be forced to conclude that you are a troll or that you dislike me personally for some reason. Given that I have never given you any reason to dislike me personally, I would therefore be forced to logically conclude that you are a troll, QED.

You have one hour to respond.

ddq · Mon 28/11/2011 15:43:31

Read your own damn signature, monkey.

monkey0506 · Mon 28/11/2011 15:48:19

Since adding that to my signature, all I've done is constantly feed them.

Now that's irony. 8)

Oh, and the hour's up. Trollhack has officially publicly announced that he was/is a troll and should henceforth be ignored. That is all!

RPGs are similar to baking cakes

m0ds

Ghost