Is it Normal, or What?

[Helm]

A lot of gys who have not had sexual experiences and/or are afraid of girls, on the internet, like to look at pictures of girls with penises. The why seems pretty straightforward to me: it's arousing by connotation (girls) but it's also familiar and easier to relate to (a penis) than the alien intelligence they feel girls are. Also connected with the familiarity of the penis is ease-to-please. You tug at it until it comes, right? A girl is a bit more complicated and there's a tremendous fear of performance that a lot of internet-fringe-porn-freaks feel that makes them reach to such tastes as the absolutely and extremely self-centered fantasy that is a woman with a penis.

That you're 16 is not the question. The question is, are you a virgin, secluded and afraid of having sexual relationships with women?

Because I bet once you have a fulfulling sexual relationship with a girl (this might take a while, it's really up to chance) and you come to realise she's just as human as you, worried about similar things, confused and in need of reassurance and such, you'll probably not pay much attention to people who look like girls but are boys.

Unless you do, in which case yes, I'd say you're a latent homosexual.


A similar issue to this are young girls on the internet, afraid of boys and relationships, who look at gay comics from japan where the boys look extremely feminine but still have penises and have magical gay sex where no close details are shown of the insertion and such usually. Just a magical fairlyland full of sparkles and 'I will never forget you's where they can be both the boy and the girl in the nonexistent placebo relationship they're experiencing by proxy.

Pretty solipsistic, really.

[Andail]

With the risk of sounding conventional, I was sort of surprised to learn how "common" it was with this kind of fetish.

I'm all for love and I think we can learn to love anyone if we just want to and try to, so there is no judgement involved. I just didn't expect it to be common that girls with penises could be considered attractive.

I can probably understand that for the non-initiated young male, a vagina can appear a bit alien, and maybe less accessible than other attributes.

Maybe this is also the issue with furries (another fetish I've totally failed to understand), that the female features are so drastically de-dramatized? There exist clear erogenous attributes, but in a teddy-bear context, which constitutes a less frightening approach?

I would like to see a survey about this. I would like to know if the phenomenon of fancying furries and penis-girls is predominant among males who lack experience with real women.

[Darth Mandarb]

I think you're 16 ... and a kid.  You're confused (as most 16 year olds are ... God knows I was) and you're experimenting and trying to figure it all out.

Don't make assumptions.

Don't stress over it.

You are who you are ... even if you don't know what that is yet.

Just keep an open mind and let time happen. 

It'll sort itself out one way or the other.

[ManicMatt]

A lot of gys who have not had sexual experiences and/or are afraid of girls, on the internet, like to look at pictures of girls with penises.

Girls with penises?! Wow, I really do feel like I've been living under a rock sometimes.

Drawings.. I presume.

[Helm]

You presume partly incorrectly. Both drawings and videos or pictures. I don't mind calling someone who wants to be called a girl, a girl.

[Hammerite]

is it normal to feel a bit scared of the time that you, you know, will finally go IN the vagina? (if you catch my drift).
because all the other guys seem really confident about it.
am i a freak or what?

i don't want any pre-pubescent Steel Drummer crap.  
I want USEFUL advice!  

[Helm]

It's pretty normal. Don't sweat about it.

[MrColossal]

Yea there's nothing in there but rows and rows of teeth anyway

[Helm]

Just make sure to throttle the girl, it loosens them up. Keep clenching though, you wouldn't want them to tense up while you're in there.

[Mr Flibble]

You're probably more attracted to the concept of sex itself, or the closeness, or even the fact that gay porn and futanari is unusual and exotic.

The question is, are you actually attracted to guys?

Which of the following do you prefer?

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/54/039_44145~Brad-Pitt-Posters.jpg


http://www.simeons.net/life/archives/CZvsLT_hotGirl.jpg

If Mr Pitt's face on its own doesn't seem like something you want to kiss, then you're probably not gay. I don't see a problem with tgirl porn and the like. See Helm's post for reasons.

[HillBilly]

is it normal to feel a bit scared of the time that you, you know, will finally go IN the vagina? (if you catch my drift).

No I don't think a vagina is physically capable of absorbing a human being.

[Dan_N]

Alliance, I hope this'll help you, even if a bit...

I see it this way, normality is subjective: for some people, it's normal to be heterosexual, for others, it's normal to jack off to furry pr0n. "You're 16, you're probably curious, you're confused, you'll get over it, now go jump of girls and nothing else!" and such, that's what you're parents or teachers would probably say, but, frankly, to hell with them, you're not hurting anyone, enjoy yourself. If being bisexual is making your life more enjoyable, then, there's no problem. Be yourself. But don't forget, be gentle, none of that s&m crap...

[Helm]

Dan shouldn't be giving advice on these things to people. It's irresponsible, well it always is a bit especially on the internet, but seriously, I don't think your concept of sexuality and normalcy is something to spread around, seeing how you're 15 or something and not exactly experienced in life or love, and prone to change your mind all the time.

[voh]

While I don't personally feel any kind of attraction to any variety of the girls with penises 'genre', I am of the opinion that, especially at your age, it's normal to experiment. This might include some weird fetishes, and maybe even some real experimentation, but in the end it's all about finding that which floats your boat, and it's entirely normal.

Though, of course, some fetishes obviously go against all reason (like scat, that's just... urgh), but it's all subjective

[Dan_N]

Alright, Helm, I'm sorry, I doubt I'll change my mind, though, but fine, I'll shut up about these things, if you feel I should.

[Helm]

I'm not saying shut up, but did you think it would be a good idea to tell someone who has such a question where you're coming from, what sort of experience you've got and generally why your opinion is meritorious on grounds other than 'hey, it's the internet! I posted!'.

I strongly disagree with your cheap concept of normality. Though I don't think most people are 'normal', I do think they have a concept of normal that has been applied to them by social programming and family and such, to which if they don't actually fit it's a really big deal. Finding yourself through that takes time, is painful and is not made any easier a process by a 15-year-old telling you 'there's no normal! lol!'. It's not a matter of being told that, it's a matter of coming to that conclusion through experience.

[m0ds]

No I don't think a vagina is physically capable of absorbing a human being.

Depends which fetish we're talking about really, doesn't it! Mmmm....

[voh]

On the other hand, though, Helm, isn't it true that being told something almost never equates to believing it immediately? I know that from my own experiences, where I'd be told not to do something because it would cause me a negative outcome, and I'd KNOW that it was true, but something in myself still wanted to find out if it was true anyway.

Cue the hospital.

Especially when you're in your mid to late teens, it's healthy to question everything and try to figure out what's going on. Another mid-teen saying "normality is subjective so don't care about it" most likely isn't going to change his perception of normality or whether or not he should care about it. That's the great thing about life - you get to choose what you believe and to what extent you wish to experience things.

And I sincerely think that where Alliance has to find out for himself whether or not he's 'weird' or 'abnormal', or rather just 'normal' like I happen to think, Dan has to post here to find out that maybe he doesn't know as much as he thinks/hopes and that perhaps he is just a 15-year old with opinions that 15-year olds have and that that's not a problem.

I'm so ranting. I'll stop.

[Helm]

Of course it probably won't be important. But who posts thinking 'well my post probably won't be important!'? I wasn't trying to shield Alliance from Dan's irresponsible post.

[Becky]

Human sexuality is complicated and for most people a very sensitive topic.  The "am I normal?" fear happens to everyone at some point, I would guess, whether it's about sexual attraction, performance, or physical appearance.  Society has built certain expectations, and if you don't think you fall in line with them, then worry creeps in.  

When you get older, and your sexuality and sexual preferences settle down, things might get less confusing.  People tend to find something that works for them, and as long as your partner(s) are understanding (and you communicate with them) and welcoming then things will probably turn out okay.