Is it Normal, or What?

[Babar]

Why is it normal to parade around in small swimming briefs, or a bikini suit (in places like the beach or a hotel pool), but to hang around in you underwear (which may very well cover a larger portion of your body) is grounds for whispering and pointing?

[voh]

Context. If you go out in your swimming trunks to, for example, a rock show, a restaurant, a store, a doctor's visit, a wedding or anything else that's not swimming-related, you're going to get a lot of weird looks, there's going to be pointing and you might even get kicked out.

Unless you're at a rock show, a restaurant, a store, a doctor's visit or a wedding on a beach. Then, I guess, it'd be okay.

[Helm]

As a longstanding advocate of not wearing any pants, I totally agree with your outrage on the subject!

[radiowaves]

Why is it normal to parade around in small swimming briefs, or a bikini suit (in places like the beach or a hotel pool), but to hang around in you underwear (which may very well cover a larger portion of your body) is grounds for whispering and pointing?

I have exactly the same question. And I have been to store etc with swimming pants btw, I was not kicked out or anything.

[Erenan]

Maybe it's because I live in California, but most people around don't really care if you wear swimming trucks to most of those places. If you go into a really ritzy restaurant or something, then maybe someone's monocle might fall off in surprise, but mostly you'll be okay.

Also, I like not wearing pants, too, but mostly just indoors.

[Blackthorne]

When it comes to sex, there's no such thing as normal.

Anyone who says otherwise is just having bad sex.


And, to Alliance, there's been a lot of great advice and insights given in this thread, so I'm not going to repeat them all - I'll just say that teenage years can be a bit confusing - I was turned on by any and everything that was remotely sexual, so I know how weird it can get.  Just keep your head up, and if you're fortunate enough to have someone you rely on and trust enough to talk to, talk to 'em.


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[lo_res_man]

All is normal, nothing is normal. But before we get all zen, what about those who practise things who most still consider abnormal, such as the "Man-boy love" movement aka paedophiles. And before you get all "Totally different, paedophilias is illegal" consider that sodomy is still illegal in some states and a few countries, not to mention the fact it was almost universally true a one or two generations ago. If you had asked almost any one back then if they thought it would ever be legal, they would be grossed out and give you the same answers you give now against paedophiles. I am not saying its right I am just saying, think about your answers

[vict0r]

Well, the worst thing about paedophilia is the trust-thing. A child can get extremely screwed in the head in cases of paedophilia.

[lo_res_man]

Good response, but my point is still valid. What ARE some of the effects? remember about half a century ago a leading psychologist said homosexuals were rapists unable to control there sexdrive and may strike at anytime, (while I am waiting for a reply I'll look up who said that, and other anachronisms)

[Andail]

Technically, I don't think you have to be mentally sick or perverted to develop sexual feelings for anyone or anything, provided that a) you don't believe they'd be hurt by your sexual activity, or b) you'll abstain forever from that kind of activity.

The entire greek aristocracy was about boy-love, and I refuse to believe they were all disturbed or sick; I think they were taught that loving boys was safe and sound and something all did and enjoyed and nobody was harmed from, and therefore they could allow themselves developing such feelings.

But yielding to such desires while knowing how harmful it can be for the other part (as in the case with paedophilia), now that's sick and perverted.

[Buckethead]

I'm not a rapist lol. I may strike at any time mahah! 

[lo_res_man]

The entire greek aristocracy was about boy-love, and I refuse to believe they were all disturbed or sick; I think they were taught that loving boys was safe and sound and something all did and enjoyed and nobody was harmed from, and therefore they could allow themselves developing such feelings

So its okey as long as popular culture says its okay?

[Nikolas]

lo res man:

I don't find the issue to be about normal or not normal, but whether it bothers me, my family, or it touches me really.

Thus, I don't really care what is normal, but a gay couple (male or female), if they are like every other normal couple, I don't have any problem. If, by any chance, they go shoping for other couples and I don't see it, no problem either (or if I don't know it). If they came knockin at my door asking if we would like to "get together", I might have a problem...

With peadofilles things are different.

Any peadofille is an immediate danger to my kids! That said is enough for me to NOT like it! Normal or not normal! (since girls can have sex and get pregnant from the age of 11-13 or something it is rather normal. Still our society give power to where and when and with who you have sex with, to both boys and girls, and that said, someone abbusing some kind of influence to get inthe pants of a 14 year old is wrong in my books. (btw, monkey has not influenced anything yet, nor is looking to get in any pants, right?)

[Chicky]

I don't mean to be too forward Alliance but i noticed your a My Chemical Romance fan. I'm not stereotyping you but i know from experience that it is often considered 'cool' to be bisexual or to 'fancy guys' in the alternative scene. I know for one that the emo scene is very Bi-friendly and many 'emo' guys that i know have had bisexual experiences, often to impress other people.

Im not saying this is why you have your feelings, but i know that bisexuality can often be very easily available to the 'alternative scene'. Not that this is a bad thing at all!

The only way to really find out is to give it a go! Find someone with the same feeling and fondle about, what else are your teenage years for.

Oh and let us know how you get on.

[deadsuperhero]

Gee. Thanks for all the advice!

And Chicky: I just happen to really like MCR. I'm not offended at all, but I would like to point out that I'm not emo. I'm more of a class clown person.
And Helm: You hit the nail on the head with the woman thing. It's easy for me to talk to them, just hard to ask them on dates. Asking people out scares me to death.

[lo_res_man]

I am sure it scares most guys initially, I personly am a lonley nerd who has only asked out ONE woman in his life, and was rejected. check my profile to see how emberessing that really is. As for my sexuality, I have been turned on by guys, so I guess that makes me Bisexual, as well as been a bit of a tran,a skirt much more comfy then most pants.

[Andail]

The entire greek aristocracy was about boy-love, and I refuse to believe they were all disturbed or sick; I think they were taught that loving boys was safe and sound and something all did and enjoyed and nobody was harmed from, and therefore they could allow themselves developing such feelings

So its okey as long as popular culture says its okay?

The action itself is not okay. I'm less inclined to condemn someone for being sick and perverted when they follow the mainstream of their society, and lack insight in the horrible consequences.
I have enough socio-cultural wisdom and boldness to admit that if I had been in that situation, I would probably have done the same.
Before you seek to pluck easy moral points on me, try to understand what I was actually saying, and know that children's wellbeing is part of my profession.

[Mr Flibble]

Oh and let us know how you get on.

With pics or it didn't happen.

[sergiocornaga]

pics or it didn't happen.

Clearly you have a fetish...

[MrColossal]

Oh and let us know how you get on.

With pics or it didn't happen.

Unless it happens in Vegas. Because what happens in Vegas...