Is it Normal, or What?

[deadsuperhero]

Well, with all these controversial threads, I figured I might as well give this a shot.
I've been very afraid about myself, so here goes.
I think I'm bisexual. Not like, attracted to men. I'm attracted to girls, but I'm heavily attracted to crossdressers, and tgirls (both pre and post op)
I'm 16. Is this normal, or is there something wrong with me?
I just don't know what to think sometimes...
What do you think?

[Fleshstalker]

Well since everyone is coming out. I like furries.

[Steel Drummer]

Sexuality, according to the AGS Forums, Part III. :

I read once, on a masturbation site that it's normal to think of guys in girl's clothes while masturbating and to be turned on by wearing girl's clothes.

but I'm heavily attracted to crossdressers, and tgirls

If you're attracted to crossdressers, wouldn't that mean you're attracted to guys? Or are you talking about girls dressed as guys? What do you mean by tgirls? Transgender girls?

If crossdressers make your banana go hard, you might want to check this thread. 

[Tuomas]

Well at 16 it might just be that you are exploring or learning, but yeah, bi-sexuality is very normal in my opinion.

I onnthe other hand have a calf fetish, not the cow type, but the leg type, you know what I mean.
EDIT: Oh and I forgot to mention Japanese school girls

[Steel Drummer]

Yeah, it seems everyone has some fetishes. It's normal, Alliance.

[deadsuperhero]

SD: By crossdresser, I mean someone who shaves their body, has a feminine body, wears makeup, and looks overall like a woman.
A tgirl is similar, except there's hormones and/or surgery.
In laymans terms, a woman with a penis.

[Steel Drummer]

A tgirl is similar, except there's hormones and/or surgery.
In laymans terms, a woman with a penis.

In other words, a shemale, right? 

[deadsuperhero]

A tgirl is similar, except there's hormones and/or surgery.
In laymans terms, a woman with a penis.

In other words, a shemale, right? 

Although that's correct, I use tgirl as the word. Shemale is considered offensive to them, as it's a word invented by the porn industry.

[InCreator]

16?
Too early to tell. Teen age is weird age for a man in which almost everything might turn you on.
I wouldn't suggest you to be too afraid, but the way you think and act will probably help moulding you into someone.

For most heterosexual men, anything gay is a taboo, and any gay thoughts are something that must be forgotten. Immediately! This also how I was raised and raised myself. Well, I'm hetero now. Don't know if it helped, but...

What's 'normal' in your case, is that you're going through various phases and thinking...

Start living somebody, and things start to clear in time.

P.S - for fetishes, EVERYONE has some. Even really-really weird or bad ones...

[Fleshstalker]

How do you feel about hemaphrodites (however you spell it)?

[earlwood]

To give a testament for this certian case, I'm not too much older than you, but I find some Ladyboys (which I'm guessing to be the Thai equivilant to Tgrils, or maybe they are the same thing)  to be particularly attractive as well.  I too thought I was bi-curious when I first felt arroused instead of utterly disgusted by this, but that feeling has kind of faded away because, really, they are just girls with penises, and although I cannot tell you why you are attracted to it, I'm pretty sure that it doesn't stem from latent homosexuality.  In fact, a lot of straight dudes get their rocks off to shemales and yaoi, because they have a lot of qualities that they find appealing in the opposite sex.

You probably aren't bi-sexual, but if you saw a really cute girl and she had a penis, you might let her pull your pud.

[deadsuperhero]

How do you feel about hemaphrodites (however you spell it)?

Actually, that seems like a good compromise for a tgirl fetish...a girl and a man?
Intriguing...

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

Why ask the opinion of an internet forum, anyway?  On one side you're going to get people who think morals are flexible and do whatever feels good (ie, sensualists) and on the other side you're going to get people who have strict moral codes and think it's wrong.  This is more something you should discuss with your parents or people who actually know and care about you and not a group of over-opinionated assholes like us. 

That's the best advice you could hope for on this and many other subjects.

Seriously!

[Evil]

I'm all about cute Asian girls that have both sets of genitals. It's not homosexual of me. It only means they know how to treat a penis.

[Alynn]

While not so much transgender fetish myself, but something equivilant is Futanari, which is the hentai version of girls with penises.

There are different flavors (sort to speak) but the ones that get me are the normal girls that can grow a penis and have their way with other girls.

But as far as Tgirls go, when they look like women, and not men dressed as women I find them attractive. So it really all depends on how womanish they look.

[Nikolas]

Maybe it's a tad early?

Wait a couple of years.

Bi sexuality seems ok. Never tried and I'm not attractive to men or anything... But really, don't see the point!

There could be a distinct chance that you are bombarded with bi-sexual "projections" etc, so you have a small fixation on this? don't know, just asking really.

Well, just try it and see how it feels. Maybe finding a girlfriend will prove you once and for all that you don't like girls but like dressing like them. Or the opposite. who knows really...

[ildu]

I'd say fetishes rarely define character. If you're worried about being gay, you'd be better off exploring 'love' and 'crush' feelings rather than crude sexual fetishes. As said earlier, everyone has them and during teenage years, they're over-extended. Fetishes most likely stem from somewhere, but you shouldn't worry that they're gonna run your life or anything. I would say fetishes very rarely have any effect on your future self, unless of course you become completely enthralled and obsessed about something specific. But even then, you have to consider the degrees of what is considered a fetish. For some people even oral might be a fetish, and adversely for some others, you get to the really sick stuff .

[WHAM]

Well since everyone is coming out. I like furries.

Fatal Furry? 

Me: Furries, Dickgirls (this is new), hentacles... All the wonderfully sick stuff you can find on http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html !!!

[Buckethead]

Of course it's normal. I'm sure there are more guys like you who wonder the same. 

[BOYD1981]

i think there's a big difference between liking what you like and bi/homosexuality, i mean when you watch 'normal' porn you're still seeing a man naked, and it's the female stimulating the penis (usually) that you find erotic and not just the fact that the woman is naked and you can see her bits (which is why some people find lesbian porn very boring). so the penis plays a very big part in arousal, and shemale/gay porn is pretty much all about the wang and the breasts are there for decoration.
if you actively want to have a sexual experience with another male, be they transsexual or otherwise, then i'd say you probably are bi-curious. if you've done it, enjoyed it and still find women attractive then you're most likely bisexual. if you just like to fap over ladyboys then you have a fetish.
i think there's always an element of curiousity with most things though, and it doesn't always mean anything, people are just very quick to slap a label on something and class it as being unnatural, weird or down right disgusting.
i'd say you're just a normal teenage boy with a working penis and internet connection.

[Helm]

A lot of gys who have not had sexual experiences and/or are afraid of girls, on the internet, like to look at pictures of girls with penises. The why seems pretty straightforward to me: it's arousing by connotation (girls) but it's also familiar and easier to relate to (a penis) than the alien intelligence they feel girls are. Also connected with the familiarity of the penis is ease-to-please. You tug at it until it comes, right? A girl is a bit more complicated and there's a tremendous fear of performance that a lot of internet-fringe-porn-freaks feel that makes them reach to such tastes as the absolutely and extremely self-centered fantasy that is a woman with a penis.

That you're 16 is not the question. The question is, are you a virgin, secluded and afraid of having sexual relationships with women?

Because I bet once you have a fulfulling sexual relationship with a girl (this might take a while, it's really up to chance) and you come to realise she's just as human as you, worried about similar things, confused and in need of reassurance and such, you'll probably not pay much attention to people who look like girls but are boys.

Unless you do, in which case yes, I'd say you're a latent homosexual.


A similar issue to this are young girls on the internet, afraid of boys and relationships, who look at gay comics from japan where the boys look extremely feminine but still have penises and have magical gay sex where no close details are shown of the insertion and such usually. Just a magical fairlyland full of sparkles and 'I will never forget you's where they can be both the boy and the girl in the nonexistent placebo relationship they're experiencing by proxy.

Pretty solipsistic, really.

[Andail]

With the risk of sounding conventional, I was sort of surprised to learn how "common" it was with this kind of fetish.

I'm all for love and I think we can learn to love anyone if we just want to and try to, so there is no judgement involved. I just didn't expect it to be common that girls with penises could be considered attractive.

I can probably understand that for the non-initiated young male, a vagina can appear a bit alien, and maybe less accessible than other attributes.

Maybe this is also the issue with furries (another fetish I've totally failed to understand), that the female features are so drastically de-dramatized? There exist clear erogenous attributes, but in a teddy-bear context, which constitutes a less frightening approach?

I would like to see a survey about this. I would like to know if the phenomenon of fancying furries and penis-girls is predominant among males who lack experience with real women.

[Darth Mandarb]

I think you're 16 ... and a kid.  You're confused (as most 16 year olds are ... God knows I was) and you're experimenting and trying to figure it all out.

Don't make assumptions.

Don't stress over it.

You are who you are ... even if you don't know what that is yet.

Just keep an open mind and let time happen. 

It'll sort itself out one way or the other.

[ManicMatt]

A lot of gys who have not had sexual experiences and/or are afraid of girls, on the internet, like to look at pictures of girls with penises.

Girls with penises?! Wow, I really do feel like I've been living under a rock sometimes.

Drawings.. I presume.

[Helm]

You presume partly incorrectly. Both drawings and videos or pictures. I don't mind calling someone who wants to be called a girl, a girl.

[Hammerite]

is it normal to feel a bit scared of the time that you, you know, will finally go IN the vagina? (if you catch my drift).
because all the other guys seem really confident about it.
am i a freak or what?

i don't want any pre-pubescent Steel Drummer crap.  
I want USEFUL advice!  

[Helm]

It's pretty normal. Don't sweat about it.

[MrColossal]

Yea there's nothing in there but rows and rows of teeth anyway

[Helm]

Just make sure to throttle the girl, it loosens them up. Keep clenching though, you wouldn't want them to tense up while you're in there.

[Mr Flibble]

You're probably more attracted to the concept of sex itself, or the closeness, or even the fact that gay porn and futanari is unusual and exotic.

The question is, are you actually attracted to guys?

Which of the following do you prefer?

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/54/039_44145~Brad-Pitt-Posters.jpg


http://www.simeons.net/life/archives/CZvsLT_hotGirl.jpg

If Mr Pitt's face on its own doesn't seem like something you want to kiss, then you're probably not gay. I don't see a problem with tgirl porn and the like. See Helm's post for reasons.

[HillBilly]

is it normal to feel a bit scared of the time that you, you know, will finally go IN the vagina? (if you catch my drift).

No I don't think a vagina is physically capable of absorbing a human being.

[Dan_N]

Alliance, I hope this'll help you, even if a bit...

I see it this way, normality is subjective: for some people, it's normal to be heterosexual, for others, it's normal to jack off to furry pr0n. "You're 16, you're probably curious, you're confused, you'll get over it, now go jump of girls and nothing else!" and such, that's what you're parents or teachers would probably say, but, frankly, to hell with them, you're not hurting anyone, enjoy yourself. If being bisexual is making your life more enjoyable, then, there's no problem. Be yourself. But don't forget, be gentle, none of that s&m crap...

[Helm]

Dan shouldn't be giving advice on these things to people. It's irresponsible, well it always is a bit especially on the internet, but seriously, I don't think your concept of sexuality and normalcy is something to spread around, seeing how you're 15 or something and not exactly experienced in life or love, and prone to change your mind all the time.

[voh]

While I don't personally feel any kind of attraction to any variety of the girls with penises 'genre', I am of the opinion that, especially at your age, it's normal to experiment. This might include some weird fetishes, and maybe even some real experimentation, but in the end it's all about finding that which floats your boat, and it's entirely normal.

Though, of course, some fetishes obviously go against all reason (like scat, that's just... urgh), but it's all subjective

[Dan_N]

Alright, Helm, I'm sorry, I doubt I'll change my mind, though, but fine, I'll shut up about these things, if you feel I should.

[Helm]

I'm not saying shut up, but did you think it would be a good idea to tell someone who has such a question where you're coming from, what sort of experience you've got and generally why your opinion is meritorious on grounds other than 'hey, it's the internet! I posted!'.

I strongly disagree with your cheap concept of normality. Though I don't think most people are 'normal', I do think they have a concept of normal that has been applied to them by social programming and family and such, to which if they don't actually fit it's a really big deal. Finding yourself through that takes time, is painful and is not made any easier a process by a 15-year-old telling you 'there's no normal! lol!'. It's not a matter of being told that, it's a matter of coming to that conclusion through experience.

[m0ds]

No I don't think a vagina is physically capable of absorbing a human being.

Depends which fetish we're talking about really, doesn't it! Mmmm....

[voh]

On the other hand, though, Helm, isn't it true that being told something almost never equates to believing it immediately? I know that from my own experiences, where I'd be told not to do something because it would cause me a negative outcome, and I'd KNOW that it was true, but something in myself still wanted to find out if it was true anyway.

Cue the hospital.

Especially when you're in your mid to late teens, it's healthy to question everything and try to figure out what's going on. Another mid-teen saying "normality is subjective so don't care about it" most likely isn't going to change his perception of normality or whether or not he should care about it. That's the great thing about life - you get to choose what you believe and to what extent you wish to experience things.

And I sincerely think that where Alliance has to find out for himself whether or not he's 'weird' or 'abnormal', or rather just 'normal' like I happen to think, Dan has to post here to find out that maybe he doesn't know as much as he thinks/hopes and that perhaps he is just a 15-year old with opinions that 15-year olds have and that that's not a problem.

I'm so ranting. I'll stop.

[Helm]

Of course it probably won't be important. But who posts thinking 'well my post probably won't be important!'? I wasn't trying to shield Alliance from Dan's irresponsible post.

[Becky]

Human sexuality is complicated and for most people a very sensitive topic.  The "am I normal?" fear happens to everyone at some point, I would guess, whether it's about sexual attraction, performance, or physical appearance.  Society has built certain expectations, and if you don't think you fall in line with them, then worry creeps in.  

When you get older, and your sexuality and sexual preferences settle down, things might get less confusing.  People tend to find something that works for them, and as long as your partner(s) are understanding (and you communicate with them) and welcoming then things will probably turn out okay.

[Babar]

Why is it normal to parade around in small swimming briefs, or a bikini suit (in places like the beach or a hotel pool), but to hang around in you underwear (which may very well cover a larger portion of your body) is grounds for whispering and pointing?

[voh]

Context. If you go out in your swimming trunks to, for example, a rock show, a restaurant, a store, a doctor's visit, a wedding or anything else that's not swimming-related, you're going to get a lot of weird looks, there's going to be pointing and you might even get kicked out.

Unless you're at a rock show, a restaurant, a store, a doctor's visit or a wedding on a beach. Then, I guess, it'd be okay.

[Helm]

As a longstanding advocate of not wearing any pants, I totally agree with your outrage on the subject!

[radiowaves]

Why is it normal to parade around in small swimming briefs, or a bikini suit (in places like the beach or a hotel pool), but to hang around in you underwear (which may very well cover a larger portion of your body) is grounds for whispering and pointing?

I have exactly the same question. And I have been to store etc with swimming pants btw, I was not kicked out or anything.

[Erenan]

Maybe it's because I live in California, but most people around don't really care if you wear swimming trucks to most of those places. If you go into a really ritzy restaurant or something, then maybe someone's monocle might fall off in surprise, but mostly you'll be okay.

Also, I like not wearing pants, too, but mostly just indoors.

[Blackthorne]

When it comes to sex, there's no such thing as normal.

Anyone who says otherwise is just having bad sex.


And, to Alliance, there's been a lot of great advice and insights given in this thread, so I'm not going to repeat them all - I'll just say that teenage years can be a bit confusing - I was turned on by any and everything that was remotely sexual, so I know how weird it can get.  Just keep your head up, and if you're fortunate enough to have someone you rely on and trust enough to talk to, talk to 'em.


Bt

[lo_res_man]

All is normal, nothing is normal. But before we get all zen, what about those who practise things who most still consider abnormal, such as the "Man-boy love" movement aka paedophiles. And before you get all "Totally different, paedophilias is illegal" consider that sodomy is still illegal in some states and a few countries, not to mention the fact it was almost universally true a one or two generations ago. If you had asked almost any one back then if they thought it would ever be legal, they would be grossed out and give you the same answers you give now against paedophiles. I am not saying its right I am just saying, think about your answers

[vict0r]

Well, the worst thing about paedophilia is the trust-thing. A child can get extremely screwed in the head in cases of paedophilia.

[lo_res_man]

Good response, but my point is still valid. What ARE some of the effects? remember about half a century ago a leading psychologist said homosexuals were rapists unable to control there sexdrive and may strike at anytime, (while I am waiting for a reply I'll look up who said that, and other anachronisms)

[Andail]

Technically, I don't think you have to be mentally sick or perverted to develop sexual feelings for anyone or anything, provided that a) you don't believe they'd be hurt by your sexual activity, or b) you'll abstain forever from that kind of activity.

The entire greek aristocracy was about boy-love, and I refuse to believe they were all disturbed or sick; I think they were taught that loving boys was safe and sound and something all did and enjoyed and nobody was harmed from, and therefore they could allow themselves developing such feelings.

But yielding to such desires while knowing how harmful it can be for the other part (as in the case with paedophilia), now that's sick and perverted.

[Buckethead]

I'm not a rapist lol. I may strike at any time mahah! 

[lo_res_man]

The entire greek aristocracy was about boy-love, and I refuse to believe they were all disturbed or sick; I think they were taught that loving boys was safe and sound and something all did and enjoyed and nobody was harmed from, and therefore they could allow themselves developing such feelings

So its okey as long as popular culture says its okay?

[Nikolas]

lo res man:

I don't find the issue to be about normal or not normal, but whether it bothers me, my family, or it touches me really.

Thus, I don't really care what is normal, but a gay couple (male or female), if they are like every other normal couple, I don't have any problem. If, by any chance, they go shoping for other couples and I don't see it, no problem either (or if I don't know it). If they came knockin at my door asking if we would like to "get together", I might have a problem...

With peadofilles things are different.

Any peadofille is an immediate danger to my kids! That said is enough for me to NOT like it! Normal or not normal! (since girls can have sex and get pregnant from the age of 11-13 or something it is rather normal. Still our society give power to where and when and with who you have sex with, to both boys and girls, and that said, someone abbusing some kind of influence to get inthe pants of a 14 year old is wrong in my books. (btw, monkey has not influenced anything yet, nor is looking to get in any pants, right?)

[Chicky]

I don't mean to be too forward Alliance but i noticed your a My Chemical Romance fan. I'm not stereotyping you but i know from experience that it is often considered 'cool' to be bisexual or to 'fancy guys' in the alternative scene. I know for one that the emo scene is very Bi-friendly and many 'emo' guys that i know have had bisexual experiences, often to impress other people.

Im not saying this is why you have your feelings, but i know that bisexuality can often be very easily available to the 'alternative scene'. Not that this is a bad thing at all!

The only way to really find out is to give it a go! Find someone with the same feeling and fondle about, what else are your teenage years for.

Oh and let us know how you get on.

[deadsuperhero]

Gee. Thanks for all the advice!

And Chicky: I just happen to really like MCR. I'm not offended at all, but I would like to point out that I'm not emo. I'm more of a class clown person.
And Helm: You hit the nail on the head with the woman thing. It's easy for me to talk to them, just hard to ask them on dates. Asking people out scares me to death.

[lo_res_man]

I am sure it scares most guys initially, I personly am a lonley nerd who has only asked out ONE woman in his life, and was rejected. check my profile to see how emberessing that really is. As for my sexuality, I have been turned on by guys, so I guess that makes me Bisexual, as well as been a bit of a tran,a skirt much more comfy then most pants.

[Andail]

The entire greek aristocracy was about boy-love, and I refuse to believe they were all disturbed or sick; I think they were taught that loving boys was safe and sound and something all did and enjoyed and nobody was harmed from, and therefore they could allow themselves developing such feelings

So its okey as long as popular culture says its okay?

The action itself is not okay. I'm less inclined to condemn someone for being sick and perverted when they follow the mainstream of their society, and lack insight in the horrible consequences.
I have enough socio-cultural wisdom and boldness to admit that if I had been in that situation, I would probably have done the same.
Before you seek to pluck easy moral points on me, try to understand what I was actually saying, and know that children's wellbeing is part of my profession.

[Mr Flibble]

Oh and let us know how you get on.

With pics or it didn't happen.

[sergiocornaga]

pics or it didn't happen.

Clearly you have a fetish...

[MrColossal]

Oh and let us know how you get on.

With pics or it didn't happen.

Unless it happens in Vegas. Because what happens in Vegas...

[radiowaves]

I am sure it scares most guys initially, I personly am a lonley nerd who has only asked out ONE woman in his life, and was rejected. check my profile to see how emberessing that really is. As for my sexuality, I have been turned on by guys, so I guess that makes me Bisexual, as well as been a bit of a tran,a skirt much more comfy then most pants.

Lol. I don't remember that I have tried a skirt but indeed I believe it is more comfortable than pants. It is a good feeling when dick can hang freely without any pants squeezing and air can slip through easily.
But wearing a skirt does not make man a transvestite, scottish men wear skirts too. Transvestite is more like a man person who really wants to be a woman.

[Blackthorne]

You hit the nail on the head with the woman thing. It's easy for me to talk to them, just hard to ask them on dates. Asking people out scares me to death.

Why?  Just do what I do.

Stroll right up to them, and say "Hey baby.... ever heard of AGS?  King's Quest III?  Yeah.  That's me.  I'm Blackthorne."

It's like freakin' Spanish Fly, I tell ya.  I've gotten more bumper than a body shop simply because of AGS.


Bt

[Mr Flibble]

I've never hit on a girl in my life.

There's a much better way actually.

For a start, hitting on girls in a public place. You find this difficult, right? You don't know what to say. There's a good reason; you have nothing to say to her. Your only interest in her is that she's hot. So wait until you see a girl you think you could be interested in. Maybe that means hearing her laugh, or noticing an AGS pin badge 

...Or do what I do and let them come to you. I've only had two serious relationships and both of them had the girl approach me first. Have patience. The one's I tried to initiate ended horribly. Or didn't start.

[Babar]

...Or do what I do and let them come to you. I've only had two serious relationships and both of them had the girl approach me first. Have patience. The one's I tried to initiate ended horribly. Or didn't start.

I'm horrible at approaching people. Hence, all my friends are really friendly people (they'd have to be to initiate any friendship with me ).

Also, I demand the sale of AGS Pins!

[ManicMatt]

It is a good feeling when dick can hang freely without any pants squeezing and air can slip through easily.

Poor Richard! 

Really though, I prefer having tight underpants on, I don't like my dick to hang freely at all!

*cough* so anyways.. yeah, I've asked loads of girls out. Overall I'd say I've had a 20% success rate with just randomly asking people out on the spot. Not really a surefire tactic, that. I've been asked out by about two people.

But my relatively successful relationships were formed without me really trying too hard! Just from people you meet, and get along with.

Now as you all know, I'm in love! That certainly wasn't planned! It was rejected by both parties but love conquers all etc etc. (Now dont probe me about it please)

[MrColossal]

I won't probe you, you've already made it quite clear where you stand on that subject

"For I know there is no way I could just decide I want to bum Eric and enjoy it."

[LimpingFish]

Now as you all know, I'm in love! That certainly wasn't planned! It was rejected by both parties but love conquers all etc etc. (Now dont probe me about it please)

Feel free not to mention it then.

Regarding the wearing of various forms of underpant; some support is recommended. Hanging ballsacks have a habit of getting squished if you sit down carelessly.

As for sexuality; I guess it's down to whatever brand feels the most comfortable. It's all good.

Que sera, kumbaya, pass the potatos.

[Tuomas]

You hit the nail on the head with the woman thing. It's easy for me to talk to them, just hard to ask them on dates. Asking people out scares me to death.

Apparently it's not as hard as one would think

* Tuomas leaves the rest open for people to interpret

[Cyrus]

It's, in my personal opinion, kind of a disorder, but bisexuality, in contrast to some cases of homosexuality, is curable. Just try not to give in to it.

[Radiant]

It's, in my personal opinion, kind of a disorder, but bisexuality, in contrast to some cases of homosexuality, is curable. Just try not to give in to it.

Frankly I find that remark completely ridiculous, and so does contemporary psychology. Just because you don't like something for whatever reason doesn't make it a "disorder" by any stretch of the word. I'd suggest you read some of Kinsey's work on the subject.

To the OP - there is most definitely nothing wrong with you. Five minutes of websurfing could easily locate you a hundred people with the same taste, and a dozen with something that goes way further.

Aside from that, it is quite natural, if you're sixteen, to not know what to think about sexual topics, including what you find attractive or not.

[TheMagician]

bisexuality, in contrast to some cases of homosexuality, is curable

Thank you for this piece of nonsense.
I wonder which "special cases" of homosexuality you think are curable?

Hehe, I read about an "institute" in America that specializes on the curation of homosexuals. One thing they do is banning special "gay" music. One band on their list is .... "Motörhead"  ...

[Khris]

Don't feed the trolls.

[MrColossal]

Your constant need to dig up old threads is a disorder that like homosexuality, is incurable...