I'm thoroughly disgusted! Granted, I'm known for grossness, but even I have standards. Big floppy breasts, bared for all to see, is a horrible affront to the eyes of any youths on this forum. How would you like a scrawny floppy dick, with a giant vein and little hairs coming off it, bent all crooked-like, waggling under my posts?
I suggest you change your signature, else I shall have to get a little gruffer. :P
I don't know... I personally don't have a problem with it...
Although, I'm a guy... and, yes, by nature, men are pigs so...
OINK!
Edit: It could be worse, Melly... it could be an animation of REAL breasts floppin up and down... and it's not like they're not covered.
I guess if you had a little smokey floppin up and down in your sig, I would say to myself, "I'm glad I'm not that poor sap!"
Look closer, Sully. Watch it, without getting sucked in. There are nipples. It's utterly indecent. It shouldn't be on a forum where young children can be corrupted.
Quote from: Dr. Jekyll?~MR. HYDE! on Wed 25/02/2004 06:47:33
Although, I'm a guy... and, yes, by nature, men are pigs so...
Not all of us. (http://domai.com/philos.html)
QuoteLook closer, Sully. Watch it, without getting sucked in. There are nipples. It's utterly indecent.
There's nothing wrong with a little nudity. (http://domai.com/news/articles/jan98.htm)
QuoteIt shouldn't be on a forum where young children can be corrupted.
Studies show (http://domai.com/text/nudity-attitudes.html) that exposing children to nudity is actually beneficial to their psychological development.
I vote for the sig to stay!
Hey, I never noticed you could see the nipples but there are two frames where you see a slight bit of nipple, sweet.
yeah, as good as it is, if it offends anyone I guess it's not appropriate, and it's not like there aren't pleanty of females around, and kids.
Butcher's avatar was asked to be removed, and was, when it had some cartoon breasts bouncing up and down.
maybe you could show the whole animation to show that it is actually a tranny people are gorking at.
ACtually, it doesn't bother me a bit. I got bored of the game early, I guess. It's a shame nothing more creative was put there instead, though.
/me calls in eric to put the rope jumping girl back to his signature...
i think LGM's avatar is worse, i'm SURE it's a penis
http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v54/oversizedchicken/WWH.gif
Newton was wrong.
I see no nipples. All I can see is a couple white dots of light. But those aren't nipples are they???
Technically, this isn't nudity if there are no nipples visible. Hey, you can walk down the street wearing two bandaids over your tits and a tight little G-string and it isn't nudity. And that's basically what most girls wear in public anymore.
I can see three knickers in Jet X.L's avatar... Who cares?
My avatar's had a cock in it for ages, and I've yet to recieve any complaint.
Well actually, I've had plenty, but I chose to ignore them completely.
O_o I never noticed that
does anyone have any trouble, me putting this picture into my sig?
no
brilliant composition! And I really love the expression on the photo!
Meelya, are you having the time of your life?
Quote from: Minimi on Wed 25/02/2004 16:08:21
does anyone have any trouble, me putting this picture into my sig?
REALLY BIG PICTURE
I think lots and lots of people will have trouble with it - because it's so damn huge. Nice picture btw. ;D
ROLMFAO!
stick it Weasel!
im offended by your avatar, [joke]i mean what the f**k is that meant to be anyway? is it someone's ass?[/joke]
just so you know, that was a joke OK?
anyway, my signature has been drawn, thus meaning its art, and art's ok ... rite???
wow a whole thread all about me *feels special*
yey ^_^
-OVC aka oversizedchicken
Keep it.
~ d
Shouldn't that be "OSC"?
OSC0R MIN0R!
yeh but OVC sounds better then OSC, doesnt it? and it looks teh 1337
-OVSC
Quote from: BruisedWeasel on Wed 25/02/2004 06:52:30
Look closer, Sully...There are nipples.
But of course, YOU weren't looking closely, were you. ;) :D
You're all idiots (most of you anyway). Shut the hell up now.
I'm with Brusie on this one guys. We should consider eliminating all images in signature lines or restricting them to 20x60 pix non-animating images. Further we should also consider banning avatar image not directly accessable. Why do you ask?
1. The forum performance has been getting worse and worse. My browser sit there with the feakin hourglass while someone's sig is loading a useless cartoon via invis or some other anomomyizer.
2. Many of us have down time at work and could contribute to the forum. Before any of you try lecture me about cheating or being on my companies time, keep in mind I work for myself and lately have been doing fixed price contracts (i.e. mucho waiting time while client catches up and completes their part of the project). Even though it's my own time, it's not appropriate to have of big busted cartoon, giant pack mem runnign around the computer screen at my client's p[lace of business.
3. Images in sigs are completely useless and do noting but slow everything down. They are also hugely redundant and very annoying.
That's all of my rant!!! How's that for an old fart Brusie?
Cheers!!!
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I agree. I have 1Mbps cable, and it still takes up to a minute to load some forum pages, all because of FREAKING ANONYMISER! Either get some decent hosting, or don't use images.
I don't like the image in your sig because it can be extremely alienating. But whatever, you don't care and I guess no one else does.
but RickJ, your second point doesn't make any sense. Is it our responsibility what a grown man looks at on his off time at work? You don't like the giant pac-man I had, don't come to the forums at a time when it may be inappropriate.
and to continue your point 3, doesn't that mean avatars are also pointless?
They're just a set of boobs, for crying out loud.
No need to be a crybaby just because someone posts a pair of boobs flopping around the place.
If you want score one for women's lib, post a pair of manboobs flopping around -- Yeah! Right on sister! That'll score one for equal opportunity!
But if Bruised wants to post a picture of a vein-filled dick, then I reserve my right to post a picture of a freshly-shaven beaver -- I think it's only fair!
Man, I hate how people are all in an uproar about boobs.
Who cares?
They're boobs -- get over it!
I mean, everyone got so puritanical when Janet Jackson exposed her knockers -- why does it have to also happen here?
What, pray tell, is wrong with a little sex in the forum?
I like sex -- In fact, scratch that: I LOVE sex.
I think sex is something to be talked about openly and honestly, for all men and women.
Yahtzee also agrees with me:
"I LIKE those areas of hentai which depict acts that aren't illegal or sexually deviant. I LIKE seeing pictures of tits. I LIKE to drop momentarily into a little fantasy world where everyone is beautiful and blowjobs are offered in return for fixing the sink. And why not? I'm 100% red hot hunk of man, and all men like watching boobies jiggling around, when they're not lifting weights, grunting and messing around under the bonnets of expensive cars (the men, that is, not the boobies). So there. I've said it. I like hentai. Poo on you."
And here's what Hard from SexyLosers (the most sexually-deviant, tasteless, best comic there is on the internet) has to say:
"And I live in a place [Japan] that shares the fascination. Nudity is commonplace in manga and anime, even those aimed at kids. In December, when it's calendar buying time, the latest nude calendars are proudly hung from the walls of bookstores. Porn is read openly on trains and in raamen shops, the sex trade is alive and well, and love hotels are available everywhere should you feel the need to have sex with someone you're with for a couple of hours.
On the other hand, America is so fucked up about sex, that it can't joke about it. Canada isn't much better, but it's ahead by a small fraction, and that small fraction is due to a woman named Gwen Jacobs who took her top off in the heat a decade ago, and ended up having to fight decency laws. She won the right to take her top off in public, though it was a fight every step of the way. Maybe Janet Jackson will be the Gwen Jacobs of America... it surprises me that this isn't making America take a cold hard look at itself."
In OVC's case, a pair of gigantic, bouncing cartoon juggs isn't going to give me or anyone unrealistic expectations about women.
It's a goddamn cartoon, for christsake.
Now, Helen Lovejoy, you're probably going to scream at me: "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
That's a poor excuse -- young boys are still going to be interested in sex whether OVC has his signature or not.
I grew up around a fairly porn-free family household, but I was still interested in sex regardless, and I'm sure there are many people here with the same attitude.
Yet, I still have a mature view of women and don't expect them to all be size triple-F nymphomaniacs.
And I especially like talking about sex with women too -- Esepcially how they view things.
And some of the women I know have a very open view about sex.
So, my advice is stop taking such a simple and small thing so seriously!
It's a pair of over-sized cartoon breasts -- they're not going to damage anyone's precious mind.
Besides, I think posting something like this is way more disturbing and alienating:
(http://www.openbook.gmxhome.de/iraq-war.gif)
It's just that we've become so desensitised by images of violence and war on the evening news, that we suddenly place it on a lower scale than sexual material.
In Australia, most films get R or X ratings for sex-related content, and in some cases are banned (Case in point: our government banned Larry Clark's "Ken Park" due to graphic sexual depictions, despite that the film was called a brilliant study into suburbian alienation -- so I'll never get to see that now, which is a shame cause I liked Larry Clark's "Kids"), yet we give violent movies something like M, MA, or R.
The recent Passions of Christs got only an MA.
Bad Boys 2 got an MA.
Kill Bill got an R rating, but the violence was still described as cartoonish.
I think people should stop being so puritanical, take another look at the signature, say "Hey, it's just a pair of cartoon boobs! Big deal!", and get over it!
DG I guess you missed the point! Boobs in the sig is spam! Images in sig is spam! Images that use anomizers and lousy servers is worse than spam! I hate spam!!!
Get it ? SPAM sucks, it doesn't matter what kind of spam it is, it still sucks.
Quote
... they're not going to damage anyone's precious mind.
No but they may be enough to pissoff/embarass/whatever someone's girlfriend, wife, mother, kids, etc or percipitate a sexual harassment lawsuit. Besides I didn't know this was the place to come for sex.
Posting a disturbing pic in a thread is quite different than posting it in one's sig. It's easy enough to scroll past a single entry in a thread but you can't avoid the sig being repeated post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post.....
It's just annoying and rude INMHO ....
With all due respect DG, eat my boner...
I don't know where you're getting half of this stuff from... Just tell me you like to argue and I'll never bother replying to you again in matters like this.
Women's lib? What are you talking about?
Everyone got puritanical about Janet's boobs? So what? What does this have to do with anything? Is this what we're talking about? Are you lumping me into the "everyone" category because I think the image can be alienating?
Unrealistic views of women? Who said anything about that?
taking a simple and small thing so seriously? what? where? who's really freaking out about this? only person I can see is you. [and now i guess me]
the image you posted:
I'd ask the person who posted that image to please make it a link because some people might not want to see it... Jesus christ who do you think you are? Are you the enlightened one who's going to shock everyone into accepting your view? Maybe it's just common courtesy to not post the image directly and to put a link...
Kill Bill, The Passion of the Christ... What?
What does any of this have to do with anything? Since no one posts image after image of pictures from wars and stuff from rotten.com where are you getting this idea that the AGS Forums are used to death and not used to sex?
so if you're just posting to argue then so be it... in the meantime can i buy you a cinnabon?
oh and can you please link to that image, there are some people who may not want to see it, and since it would be common courtesy to either link to it or put a warning in the thread title maybe it's a good idea.
I think what DG means when he brings up the Janet Jackson incident is how Americans get their panties all in a bunch because of a little nudity. I'm not going to get into this any farther, but there's nothing wrong with a little nudity, in my humble opinion.
I don't really think getting rid of avatars or sigs is the answer (it might actually piss a few people off...). Sigs and avatars are what everyone uses to create their personality on here. Now, I understand, signatures in a sense, can be considered spam, like my signature for instance, I use it to promote my site with the banner I created, but it just looks so much better than this:
South Of Heaven (http://www.geocities.com/bodyart_7/south_of_heaven.html)
I mean, we want people to take an interest in what we have to offer, and you need to be able to catch people's eyes in some way.
As for Chicken's sig... I don't see the point behind it, but nonetheless, I don't see why it's really such a big deal. If it ultimately is decided that Chicken has to remove it, it's not going to be the end of the world, but as long as it stays, I don't have a problem with it personally.
RickJ: In that case, we should remove all pics from sigs.
I don't see why OVC should be selectively targeted.
QuoteNo but they may be enough to pissoff/embarass/whatever someone's girlfriend, wife, mother, kids, etc or percipitate a sexual harassment lawsuit. Besides I didn't know this was the place to come for sex.
A wife/girlfriend/mother wouldn't be offended if you sit down with them and calmly explain why there's a pair of cartoon boobs swinging wildly on an adventure game forum -- I'm sure if you do this, they won't take any lawsuits out on you.
As for kids, if they don't know what they are or are embarrassed by them, then you haven't done your job as a parent properly -- Perhaps explaining what they are might be a good first step.
Quote from: MrColossal on Thu 26/02/2004 06:17:58
Women's lib? What are you talking about?
It's what's known as sarcasm -- re-read my original comment.
(Oh crap, I forgot the smiley! Of course no one would think it's sarcasm!)
QuoteEveryone got puritanical about Janet's boobs? So what? What does this have to do with anything? Is this what we're talking about? Are you lumping me into the "everyone" category because I think the image can be alienating?
First, I'm not pointing my finger or lumping anyone here.
I used everyone to mean the majority of society -- Sorry for not being exact in my phrasing, as I didn't realise I had to.
And secondly, I don't see what's so alienating about a pair of cartoon boobs.
Perhaps if you actually explained why you found them alienating, I'd understand more.
QuoteUnrealistic views of women? Who said anything about that?
Read the very first few posts in this thread.
Quotetaking a simple and small thing so seriously? what? where? who's really freaking out about this? only person I can see is you. [and now i guess me]
And Bruised, who started this thread.
Quotethe image you posted:
I'd ask the person who posted that image to please make it a link because some people might not want to see it... Jesus christ who do you think you are? Are you the enlightened one who's going to shock everyone into accepting your view? Maybe it's just common courtesy to not post the image directly and to put a link...
My point in showing that link was to say that there are worse things than a pair of cartoon boobs.
I didn't want to shock anyone into accepting my view -- I just chose an image.
Believe me, there are worse images I could have chosen.
QuoteKill Bill, The Passion of the Christ... What?
What does any of this have to do with anything? Since no one posts image after image of pictures from wars and stuff from rotten.com where are you getting this idea that the AGS Forums are used to death and not used to sex?
In my opinion, most of society is used to death and violence.
Modern media shows graphic depictions of violence to shock viewers into watching shows.
And my point is that I think it's hypocritical for someone to complain about a pair of cartoon boobs when there are way worse things out there.
Quoteso if you're just posting to argue then so be it... in the meantime can i buy you a cinnabon?
Please, don't patronise me, Eric -- I expected better things from you.
I don't see why my opinion is worth less than anyone else's here -- thus, I don't see why I should be the only one to "eat your boner".
Are you holding some kind of grudge against me? I ask, because lately, you seem to be focusing a lot of your aggression on me, and more so than anyone else.
If so, why don't you speak to me in private where we can discuss my "argumentive" behaviour?
I thought you, as a moderator, would be above phrases like "eat my boner" too -- I mean, that's something that I'd say.
Quoteoh and can you please link to that image, there are some people who may not want to see it, and since it would be common courtesy to either link to it or put a warning in the thread title maybe it's a good idea.
Well, if you think the image is offensive, then censor it yourself -- you are a moderator, so moderate my image.
Besides, you see the same things (and much worse) in the papers and on the news.
Anyway, I think Eric's pissed off with me now and I'm guessing he doesn't want me to post in here any more, so I'll quit posting -- Apparently, I'm too "argumentive".
Adios.
Wow... this has become very...political, in a sense.
Although I disagree with RickJ on the whole, I DON'T think it's appropriate for other people to say "Hey man! Get over it! They're Boobs! No one Cares!!"
The fact that RickJ started a whole thread on it is an indication that SOMEONE cares. And we should respect that, even if only one or two people want it gone.
Maybe OVC should turn his sig upside down and invert the colours. That way, small children will be confused, and 'older' viewers can have a good old riot staring at a pair of black breasts bouncing upside down. I know I'D laugh... :D 8)
It's funny that no one has noticed that in my sig, I have naked men, women, sex scenes, stripping, mooning, cross dressing and drug use.
Quote from: Timosity on Thu 26/02/2004 09:08:50
It's funny that no one has noticed that in my sig, I have naked men, women, sex scenes, stripping, cross dressing and drug use.
I HAD noticed, but I didn't want to mention it, in case people started a campaign agains you. I'd feel kind of responsible then... but now..... THOUGH HAS BROUGHT IT UPON THYSELF!
I DO agree that large signature images are pointless and annoying. Take, for instance, one chemically-named AGS newcomer whose signature consists of a large Windows-XP style parody error message.
I hope people know I was joking earlier when I told everybody off. :)
I don't get the whole 'unrealistic expectations' thing.
I grew up with playboy and porn and everything, but I've never actually expected real women to look like that, you know, since I've actually seen real women hanging around the planet once in a while.
Men like big boobs and nurse outfits. Women like guys with huge muscles cowboy hats.
I think we can all agree that most people can separate fantasy from reality.
If anyone out there is actually worried about these things, then the real problem is probably a self-esteem issue. Nobody's perfect. Do what you can, and accept yourself for the person you've made yourself into.
QuoteIn that case, we should remove all pics from sigs.
I guess that would be my point... A spamless forum,what a concept :)
ok well this has created quite an uproar, and i hope your sorry beaver.
people are complaing about signature pictures being 'spam' but isnt this whole thread a waste of bandwith?
im no expert im just trying to get my point across
i myself really enjoy looking at peoples signatures and i did even when i was on dialup. But doesnt the text load before the images? So you dont atachally have to wait for the images to load.
If people dont like MY perticular signature, because of the obvious attention to the womans breasts. Then i will change it.
And towards the annomiser point, my signature doesnt use annomiser because of the site (that i recently posted about) www.photobucket.com So that doesnt effect me.
anyway, its up to the community, i'll change it if you want
cheers
-nath
People can make long posts trying to convince you... :o
Some other times they can with just a sentence... ::)
RickJ says that large sigs are a problem for him... :-[
I don't want to bother RickJ. :)
I've changed my signature. 8)
(This post has to be taken like an example of cool use of the smileys)[/boasting]
Actually, I didn't relasie that anonymizer was slowing things down for folks, too, so I've moved my avatar to somewhere I can direct link to... ;D
I'm not focusing anything on you, just because I have a problem with something you did doesn't mean I'm on an all out attack against you.
People clash, whatever, am I reading your comments and seething with rage? No. Am I going to follow you around the forum and post "Shut up." after each of your posts? No.
I think they can be an alienating image, I didn't post my reasons because I didn't care that much and obviously the majority of people on the forums doesn't care, We'll wait for CJ and see if he cares since he's the authority. I have no need to post why I think they're alienating.
Get angery first, ask for clarification later?
Obviously there are worse things than cartoon boobs, that doesn't mean this is the place for it...
I did read the very first posts carefully before posting, I don't see anyone saying it would create an unreal view of women, just one person saying "corrupt". And you should know by now Bruised is never serious in anything she does... She even said "I got tired of the game..." she was posting cause she was bored, whatever.
hypocritical: Ok, give me a list of things I can and can't complain about then I'll be set straight.
The really hilarious thing is is that you can't even link to the image yourself... Are you proving a point now? I asked you to please link to it and you won't... You just bring up that I'm a moderator when I said nothing about that the entire time... Whatever man, score one for the anti-censorship movement...
And it DOESN'T MATTER if there are worse things in the paper or on the news. This is the AGS FORUMS! Remember? Where a bunch of people come together to discuss making games in AGS and to discuss adventure games and make friends and live in a community. Maybe linking to images that may upset someone out of courtesy and not because they should be used to it by now.
again whatever, now you're all "eric doesn't want me here..." Yea, cause someone not wanting someone else to post in a thread means anything and makes any difference. Not once did I ask you to leave, I just asked you to eat my boner. You can still post and eat at the same time. It's a small meal anyway.
* SSH starts taking bets on the Feurstein McPherson bout
EVENS on one of the participants claiming it was all ironic to save face
2/1 on them conspiring together to provide some entertainment but are actually LOVERS!
3/1 on "the picture that keeps on giving" being posted in the thread
100/1 on OVC's sig NOT changing before this thread reaches the second index page...
2/1 against Jumping the Shark
well everyone will be happy, ive now changed my signature to a game related promotional one, (shameless plug) find out more at: http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?board=8;action=display;threadid=10834&start=0
well, i prefer this signature anyway
cheers to everyone who stuck up for me tho, especially DGmapchee THANX ^_^
ahh well
cyaguys
-OSC
(ps i changed my Screen Name:P)
Alas ... fair boobies ... I knew them well.
They will be missed.
Unless of course they end up in my inbox, mysteriously.
porno :o
I like your new sig, OSC.
Not quite as *interesting* as your previous one, but I guess it's all worked out for the best 8) :)
Can't let you do it, OVC.
Erik, I guess I'll see you @ mittens.
OH, come on Jet! People said that this signature pisses them off, it is just a silly gif, not a state of the art which deserves such attention... :P
Wow... I didn't see there where nipples in the sig! Well... Maybe it's because I don't "look closely"
Whoa, there are nipples!
Uhhh, okay I take back saying that there is no nudity there. I had to actually stop the animation moving, but I saw 'em. In that case... Hmmm... I guess it's not such a good idea to have it floating around.
My my my. Isn't THIS offensive.
WTF jet?
hey how mature of you, i change summit to please the community and you go and use it to piss them off.
well if you want to have that kinda reputation, go ahead
-OSC
Um, Robert Eric, are you aware that your signature is giving "the one digit salute"??????
;)
That was the whole point of my post.
Edit: Actually, I think it looks cooler this way.
I thought the boobs were funny at first.
Then I thought they were minging.
then (after about 10 seconds) I thought they were just gratuitious and unpleasant (and a little in-considerate for those of a more conservative nature)
but it's gone now, so I can save these opinions for the NEXT guy to do it.
hey, i really didnt want to offend anyone. Im glad ive changed them now.
-OSC
Hey, just noticed... If cartoon breasts are bad, then isn't a cartoon of a head getting crushed even MORE psychologically harmful? You are such a Hippocrit (I don't now how to fpell it) Bruised Weasel.
Bruised weasels submission to spritejam:
(http://gallery.passion4art.com/members/weaseltit/battle_final_big.gif) :P :-\ :-X ???
I just have 5 statements and that will be my last and final comment about this subject.
1: I am not joking. I am not being sarcastic. When my good friend "Freedom of speech" is being bullied around, then I'll back him up 100%, ALWAYS! I fail to see the humor in making freedom look like a joke.
2: They are boobs. 50% of the human race has them, but some of you act like it's murder to see one. These people are weird and absurd. (I'm talking about the TV censorship people and such. Not forum members, because most of them are joking)
The first things I did when I was born was stink, cry and suck on my dear mom's tits. Did you not?
3: I was a child not so long ago, and in many ways I still am. I know out of experience that childen don't care about hooters. I still don't, as long as they don't come out of the back.
4: I will never ever ever change my sig. Unless you can change my mind with a valid argument and hard facts to back it up. If not then don't even bother.
5: I have the freedom to post bouncing boobies in my signature. You have the freedom to have comment about my sig. I have the freedom to ignore your comment.
Absolute freedom of speech would probably destroy the world.
A couple members of the community expressed that the bouncing boobies were distasteful. I agree. Do I care if you have bouncing boobies in your sig? Not even a little. Do I care that you think that bouncing boobies in your sig are somehow part of your inalienable right as a human being? Yes, I do. Because that's dumb.
i have nothing againt the fact they're tits, its just the fact you knicked my signature! Not only that but your using my photobucket account for it!
i changed them because i was upsetting some people, and noone likes a nasty atmosphere. Doesnt anyone see this? It seems like people are just using this as a chance to argue ... kmon jet, your not proving anything by using that signature...
ahh screw it, he'll never listen
-OSC
It says in the rules sticky thread for General Discussion that:
a) You should respect other people
b) Adult content must have a *** WARNING: ADULT CONTENT *** in the subject. Since Melia owns the thread and only her or a moderator can change the subject, you're violating that rule. You're also violating it in every other thread you have posted in.
On the other hand, people with decent browsers like Firefox can right-click on an image and select "block all images from this server"
Oh how mature jet... You totally got me! Score one for you and score two for freedom of speech!! YIPPE!
So you're telling me if some people in a community [COMMUNITY, remember that?] asked you to please change your sig picture you wouldn't do it because freedom of speech is being oppressed.. God you have no idea what you're talking about.
I gather you have no concept of getting along with others or living together in a community with other people. You are right therefore everyone is wrong?
What if CJ asked you to change it? Would you still not? Since this is his forum that he pays for would you still insist that you're right and he is wrong?
Are you 6 years old?
Also, you think that acting like this will make people want to hang out with you at mittens? If you can't get along with people in a forum, what makes me think you can get along with people in real life?
I guess I can use my freedoms to not allow you to come to mittens, isn't that right? [there is an age limit anyway, a 6 year old isn't allowed]
Jet X.L. This is not a discussion about freedom... let me explain to you in a easy way:
EXAMPLE: Let's suppose I have the right to poke somebody in the eye...
1) If I poke somebody in the eye, I annoy him.
2) If he gently demmands me to stop I can make two things:
a)Stop or b)not.
a) If I stop, even loosing the fun I was getting, I'll show that I've been mature and a good friend who can life according to stablished community rules.
b) If I don't, even just doing it to show the powerful of the right of freedom, I wouldn't have any right to answer if the annoyed person tells to me: "Fuck you stupid inmature moron".
I am not saying that to you, but have in mind that if you keep that sign when people has GENTLY told you to PLEASE remove it, you'll earned some enemysties, people will have all the right to it.
I even liked that boobs! but we're not discussing that... we're discussing if we're enough mature to cut our right of freedom when some members of the community gently demmand it.
As uncle Ben said once: You don't need to do something just for the fact that you CAN do it.
A great power brings a great responsability.
[/Spiderman tune enters]
sory Jet, no hard feelings
-OSC
You people don't exist!
If this is the fact that some of you reduced your signatures' size that made me finally browse the forums quickly and without hang-ups, than I can only say: THANK YOU, RICKJ.
Quote from: Haddas on Fri 27/02/2004 17:19:52
Hey, just noticed... If cartoon breasts are bad, then isn't a cartoon of a head getting crushed even MORE psychologically harmful? You are such a Hippocrit (I don't now how to fpell it) Bruised Weasel.
Bruised weasels submission to spritejam:
(http://gallery.passion4art.com/members/weaseltit/battle_final_big.gif) :P :-\ :-X ???
In defense of that sprite jam:
I suggest you play Circus Atari.
In point of your stupidity:
If you bother to dig for stuff, you should dig for a previous entry of mine, which was a giant sperm. It would relate better to the sexual content which sparked this thread.
In point of my hypocrisy:
Duh! *insert trademark racial slur*
Haddas: Bruised has such a record of tastefull entries that a exploding "blockohead" just doesn't count ^_^.
Goldmund said it: Somebody has problems with big signatures... not with their content, nor with their message... is is jut a matter of browsing faster.
If there is people who can't respect that, for me that people won't deserve any respect from that people who has browser problems... simply and clear...
Jet X.L., if you just can't swallow your pride and remove that stupid gif to help Blazej (Goldmund, the guy who you met in Sweden, the one with the strange haircut, remember?) you'll earn a -10 in my respectometer.
Edit: Same for you lost traveler... Can't you just make that HUUUge sign in a little and clean pixel art??? Why high definition to make an animation pretending to seem like an old video game??? ???
Now, I'm not going to ask you to remove your signature image, and I'm not going to ban it.
But a wise man once said, choose your battles carefully. If you're wanting to start a crusade on Freedom of Speech, there are far more worthy causes that you could use to do so.
It's up to you whether you want to take on board the wishes of other people here with regard to the image. But think of it this way - suppose you keep the image for the next 3 months and people stop complaining about it. It'll be a win for the boobs, but will it be a win for yourself?
As for images in signatures generally - yeah, I've also been noticing that some of them have been growing rather large. So, rather than disable images in signatures completely, what would you guys say to a maximum size of 600x50 for sig images?
600*50 is just about perfect. The foy sig would fit in those restrictions just fine and Erwin would have to make his just a bit smaller.
Edit: Justice league.
My vote goes for a gently demmanding or removing the larger signatures, and see how the people responds...
I am quite sure that everybody will understand that it is better to be considered as a cool AGSer who helps the others the navigate easily through the forums than a crappy AGSer with a cool signature.
If the people don't understand this... I'll be dissapointed... and I'll vote for the restriction.
I'd go with the limitation because it's a sure bet for future n00bs who will do it without reading that they shouldn't. It just avoids problems.
600x50 sounds to be a very reasonable comprise to me, providing of course, that the "50" refers to the height . ;)
Also would it be asking too much that these images not be animated or use anomizers? Bright colors flashing about make it difficult for an old fart like myself to read the threads and the anomizers really slow things down because of the repetitious nature of sigs and avatars.
but.. but... that means that my sig has to go :-\ :'(
I don't want to be rude, Inkoddi, just honest.
Do you believe that anybody except you would really miss it?
edit:
that's not to say that yours is exceptionally bad or something, it's just that animated signatures are rarely something that others really notice or care about -- unless it slows down the connection.
I don't know, I used to be on dial up and I never cared about sigs...Eric had a cool pac-man one that I liked, and there are others....
But really, I've been on some other forums where the whole goddamn page was just a list of one line replys filled with huge banners and cheesy animations, so, I can see what people are complaining about....
Ok - well I've added some text to this effect to the top of all forum pages.
If there's somebody who has a larger sig and you find it annoying, please PM them and politely ask that they resize it as per the guidelines.
The other possibility to this would be to add an option to allow people to switch off signatures, so that they didn't see other peoples signatures at all. That would be a shame though, I think.
I like inkoddi's sig :P
-OSC
Inkoddi's signature is just two images on a marquee, not one big image. I say it stays. Doesn't slow my connection down.
My brother posts on a forum for his old CounterStrike clan ...
You think it's bad here?
You'd go CRAZY over there!
Everybody has avatars that are HUGE! Some are 300x300.
Their sig files are (some) as big as 640x480. I look at the posts and can't find the content in all the crap.
The AGS forums are clean compared to that!
It's the same at the Tierra Forums. (http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestforums) Between the sigs and the avatars, it makes you never want to visit :P
You'd need a screen resolution of 2048x1536 to see anything properly there. I think current moniters can only go up to 1600x1200 before giving you an "out of scan range" error, or just going black, waiting five seconds, then going back.