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Title: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: LordHart on Mon 03/05/2004 02:27:46
Have you ever seen a movie that you thought was so awesome, that you were amazed they never made a sequel to it? Or maybe even just a movie that had no way of making a sequel, like the main character getting killed, and you though up a way to make a sequel... well, why don't you share it here and now...

Heres mine:

BIG -> SMALL
I thought up this a fair while ago now, and I mentioned it in #ags (which gave me the idea for this thread). Anyway, the thing would be Tom Hanks character Josh would be grown up now, played by Tom Hanks. He is all bored with adult life, and really wants to be a kid again. Walking along a street at night after work, he passes an arcade and spots the old Fortune Telling machine, but its getting old and looks a bit busted. He goes in and puts his coin in, and wishes to be small...

Well, he goes home, and awakes to find that his wish has been granted... but it isn't exactly as he wanted it... instead of being a small boy, hes turned into a midget. :-\

He then goes through a whole lot of fun and wacky things as he tries to turn back to normal...

Alien -> Alien: Evolution
Okay, we've all had ideas for the Alien series, I'm sure. I came up with an idea shortly after I bought the Alien Quad Boxset and watch all the movies right through including both versions of each and the special features. Well, the movie would have a few elements of all of them, most specifically a mix between Alien and Aliens.

The movie would start with a lone space frigate flying through space only to be stopped, as the crew wake from Hypersleep. The ship stops at a planet and is recieving a very, very weak signal, seemingly a distress signal. They embark out onto the planet, and come face to face with the derelict. They go and investigate and we know what happens next. (the derelict might might not have been destroyed by the thermo-nuclear blast in Aliens and any records of it was lost when Weyland-Yutani stopped operating, as said in Ressurection).

Now considered fugitives after crashing the USM Auriga into one of Earths oceans, and resulting in the lost of lives of millions of people, Ripley and the crew of the Betty (from Resurrection) are working as smugglers in a nearby system. They get contacted by a man, who works for a transport company, and tells them that one of their ships did not arrive at its destination on time, and their beacon went down in the vicinity of a planet identified as LV-426. Ripley hears the name and takes the job immediately, and heads off towards the planet.

They discover some of the crew, dead, but their ship is gone. Going into the derelict, they come across the Space Jockey, and then advance in more... going into the egg chamber, which is completely empty... not a single egg is there. Ripley spots a small crack in apart of a wall and breaks through to discover a new room, which has another member of the Space Jockeys race... dead as well, with its ribs burst open. Some panels are on, still running after all these years, perhaps thousands of inactivity. Call hooks into the system somehow (hey, its hollywood, they could come up with some obscure way as to how she could patch into a centuries old incompatible computer system) and preceeds to download information about the ship, and we finally find what the derelicts nature is... a prison transport ship... though the aliens weren't the prisoners, some long dead species that didn't fossilize like the Jockey did were the prisoners, one of them got caught on the aliens homeworld though, after having a facehugger attached to his face.

I haven't thought up much else about it, though they will finally go to the Xenomorphs home planet, find out that a descendant of Weyland-Yutani's owner at the time of Aliens and Alien3 is responsible for the ship now going to LV-426 and he stole the eggs but haven't thought up what he does with them yet... though Ripley will somehow work into that. Um, I can't think of much else I would do, except kill off Ripley somehow, but not the Xenomorphs...

Deep Rising -> Deep Rising 2
The first movie was left WIDE open for a sequel, after escaping the ocean liner and escaping the emoba thingy, the three survivors ended up on an island, seemingly deserted. Then you heard a huge roar and the camera pans out to show that the island is big and freaky with all monsters and shit...

I have no idea what could happen for this sequel, but having the survivors on the island geting chased is a must and they must find a way off of it... seems simple enough. :-\

The Last Starfighter -> Starfighter
Who else loved the first movie? It had everything you could want, a cool video game, a great cast of characters, great (for the time) special fx, a great story and last but not least, a flying car, that wasn't like some lame one like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang...

A sequel would have been great, and having it set a few years after the end of the first one would be best. My idea for a sequel would be that the Frontier has been repaired, Alex Logan is now the one of the Star Leagues top starfighters, and has been targeted by forces loyal to Xur. Xur, is now rebuilding his forces, after escaping the Kodan and wants revenge upon Logan for stopping his plans of domination.

Well, nothing much else comes to mind as to what could happen, except a few little things, like the battles could be a few times larger, and they can include many more Gunstars than just The Last One like in the original. The Death Blossom is now a fully operational feature of the gunstars and has been beefed up and is now two times more dangerous and more missiles and lasers and all this other shit comes flying out to destroy everything in a short radius to the ship...

Um... anyway, now... thats all I can think of really. Now, what are YOUR ideas for sequels?
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Trapezoid on Mon 03/05/2004 07:09:41
I like the Small idea. Using CGI to turn famous actors into midgets is the next big thing.
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: LGM on Mon 03/05/2004 14:06:56
Conan the Destroyer needs a sequel... Conan the King.. The ending is left wide open for one! Gah.. They could do it, too.. Cause Ahhhnold is much older and could look like a better king.

I think Tremors could do with another sequel too ;) ;)
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Meowster on Mon 03/05/2004 14:13:50
Harry Potter, and I'd cast Danny deVito as Hagrid.
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: LordHart on Mon 03/05/2004 14:48:48
Quote from: LilGryphMaster on Mon 03/05/2004 14:06:56
Conan the Destroyer needs a sequel... Conan the King.. The ending is left wide open for one! Gah.. They could do it, too.. Cause Ahhhnold is much older and could look like a better king.

King Conan: Throne of Iron was pretty much about to be made, with Arnold in it, John Milius directing again but then Arnuld went into the race for the governorship... after he announced his part in the race on the tonight show with jay leno, he phoned john milius backstage and apologised because it wouldn't happen...
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: LGM on Mon 03/05/2004 15:11:13
Ah darn.. They better still make it once ahhnold is ex-governor.. I get why he did that, though.. Think of the press mockery.. Arnold the King, Arnold the GOVERNOR!?!? :-p
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: dasjoe on Mon 03/05/2004 15:19:03
wag the dog (http://www.newline.com/sites/wagthedog/Story/index.html), but with bush as president..  ::)

and trainspotting.
and fear and loathing in las vegas.
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Rave on Tue 04/05/2004 07:45:44
I think that after the awsome trilligy of Lord of the Rings, there should obveously be another sequel. However, like Star Wars Episoid 1 it would rather be a prequel......and if you arn't familiar with Tolkien the book that started the whole LotRÃ,  series was a magnificent book called The Hobbit. The book stars Bilbo, Frodo's uncle on a quest where he first discovers the ring. .....on second thought, it would be a shame if it didn't live up to the glory of LotR, so it is rather a risk.

[Edit] And they are already comming out with a sequel to Harry Potter *sigh* I think its repulsive when people compare LotR with the a little kids book series. Its just downright sad.
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Ryukage on Tue 04/05/2004 08:11:12
Quote from: Rave on Tue 04/05/2004 07:45:44
I think that after the awsome trilligy of Lord of the Rings, there should obveously be another sequel. However, like Star Wars Episoid 1 it would rather be a prequel......and if you arn't familiar with Tolkien the book that started the whole LotR  series was a magnificent book called The Hobbit. The book stars Bilbo, Frodo's uncle on a quest where he first discovers the ring. .....on second thought, it would be a shame if it didn't live up to the glory of LotR, so it is rather a risk.

And after that, they should make the Silmarillion and Akallabeth.  Of course, that would probably require a running time of about 30 hours, but as long as they included some intermissions, I'd go see it.  :)
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Layabout on Tue 04/05/2004 12:45:13
Y'know rave, there are currently 5 Harry Potter books. And after the success of the 1st two films and the book series, naturally, they would be making the rest of the books into films.

And they aren't just 'little kids' books as you put it. They are quite and enjoyable series of books. I know people of all ages who enjoy it, both male and female. (although most males who have read it will not admit it)

And no-one in this thread compared LOTR to HP. You must be imagining things or reading Harry Potter websites.
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Ashen on Tue 04/05/2004 13:14:30
The Harry Potter books may not be 'little kids books' but they're definately kids books, albeit well written ones. It's just a shame that there aren't some better written 'adult' book out there, so people wouldn't have to resort to reading them.
On the other hand, you could argue that 'The Hobbit' was a kids book. It was written, if I remember right, based on stories Tolkien told his children. The Lord of the Rings books, and the other Middle Earth stuff, was written when the children were grown up, and if you read Hobbit and LotR back to back you can clearly see the difference in style.

Just to get this post vaguely back on topic, I don't see how a film of The Hobbit COULD live up to LotR - the story is far shorter, for one thing, and mcuh simpler. The film would just be a case of 'We'll throw a bunch of CG into it, and it'll make us loads of money', which would be a shame.

Sorry for this post being so long, and so off topic.
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Paper Carnival on Tue 04/05/2004 13:27:51
Matrix Reloaded -> Matrix Unloaded

Matrix Revolutions was the most dissapointing film ever. I would gladly replace it with something else where everybody dies in the end ;D

Alien, Predator -> Alien vs Predator: The movie :P

I already got some cool scenes in my mind...
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Ashen on Tue 04/05/2004 13:31:02
QuoteAlien, Predator -> Alien vs Predator: The movie

Since you mention it.....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370263/
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: LGM on Tue 04/05/2004 13:40:11
Rave: Peter Jackson is making The Hobbit after he finishes King Kong.

Ashen: The whole LOTR series was actually meant to be for kids to read.. If you watch the extended version DVDs, they mention that on one of them several times.. And HP isn't exactly a children's book just cause they say it is.. there's lots of dark, adult thematic things in that book. It's what I would call a Young Adult book.. (12-16)
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Ashen on Tue 04/05/2004 14:12:05
LGM:
Yeah, granted. That's what I meant by 'not a LITTLE kids book, but a kids book'. I'd say a little younger that 12-16, to be honest. My mum's a primary school teacher, and they have copies in every classroom, from about age 8-9. Admittedly, it's only the advanced readers at this age that've read them, but most of the 10-11 yo have. I can kind of see your point about the themes in HP, but they're dealt with in a very strange way - the death in the new one, which everyone made a big fuss about, wasn't to me anywhere near as shocking as the end of Goblet of Fire, which I've heard nothing about.

To be honest, I've only seen Fellowship, and just couldn't be bothered with the rest, nevermind extended versions. I really like the books, though, but I'm surprised they're intended for children - not because of content, so much as they're very densely written, lots and lots of words to say quite simple things (a bit like this post).

In a desperate attempt to stay on topic:
I was just looking at my DVD collection, and remembered an idea I had a few years ago for a sequel to Labyrinth, were baby Toby, now grown up, is taken back into the labyrinth to rebuild the Goblin kingdom. I actually started writing the story, before I decided it wasn't worth it.
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: LGM on Tue 04/05/2004 14:35:47
Heh.. LOTR was "meant" to be a kids book.. Key word, meant..The publishers told him that's what he wanted.. At least, that's what I was lead to believe
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Ashen on Tue 04/05/2004 14:38:45
I can see that.

Publisher: Hey, JRR, the kids loved that Hobbit story of yours. How about you bang out a few more?
Tolkien: Sure, I can do that. About 3 do you?
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Rave on Tue 04/05/2004 16:58:39
Hmm.............well, I don't know for sure, but it is quite possible that the LotR books were meant for children, but it sort of seems that only certian parts of the books are appropriate. If you havn't seen the second and third movies, then please, go see them and you will see what I mean. I can just picture a parent reading these books to their children as a bedtime story...... "And then kids, the giganitc Orc army of Isengard poured into theÃ,  valley of Helms Deep, like a black raging river. Yes, and then the Ura Ki swung his sword and decapitated that soldier, oh and this one gets an arrow shot into his throat. Ahh, and see here how the elven general is having his head split open and his brains smashed everywhere. Well, thats all for tonight, kids. Sleep tight." *kids look back wide-eyed, shivering in the dark and too scared to go to sleep*

;D Anyway, I know there wasn't a comparison between LotR and Harry Potter, but there have been and I was just sick of it. :P I HAVE read the first two books when I was younger, and they were hardly up to the quality of the Hobbit. (I also read the first and half of the second book in LotR but.....I mean they are just so friggin long. :P And rightly so because the whole story is about....what, I think like 16 months long?)
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: Ashen on Tue 04/05/2004 17:30:12
I haven't seen the 2nd and 3rd films, but I've read the books, and the battles in them aren't as graphicly described as they seem to be in the films, it's more of an overview, than close ups of dismemberments. And, while I don't actually LIKE the HP books as much as LotR and The Hobbit, I think they're better written than Hobbit.

I've just remembered, I also wrote about 1,000 words of an Evil Dead movie while I was at Uni. Not so much a sequel though, more a pilot for a series.
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: LordHart on Tue 04/05/2004 22:37:54
Quote from: LilGryphMaster on Tue 04/05/2004 13:40:11
Rave: Peter Jackson is making The Hobbit after he finishes King Kong.

Actually, I believe he is still trying to get the rights to make a film out of the book. Tolkiens family do not own the rights to The Hobbit like they do to the LOTR trilogy, and the people who do are being little shits about it. He also will only do it if he can get some of the cast back from LOTR...

Plus, King Kong is going to rock, now that Jack Black has been attached to play a role in it... :D
Title: Re: Sequels to movies... If you could make it, what would it be like?
Post by: LGM on Tue 04/05/2004 22:45:57
Jack Black? w000t! Hah.. he's hilarious.

Yea.. I knew about the rights issues.. But I figured by the time King Kong comes out and makes a gazillion dollars, the right-holders will have given in by then.. God knows he probably has the fifth draft of the Hobbit script already written anyways..