Vampires Suck - New Webcomic

[SSH]

I think that Steve meant "ellipsises", not "ellipses"

[Tuomas]

as in ...

I liked them both, enjoyable, and I can say I'm going to read them through whenever there'sa new one if I remember, why the heck not.

mh, btw, I gave someone I know the link and all he said was crappy html, what ever that means, but I liked the comic. I don't think it's important what people are saying, if I enjoy reading it, then there's nothing wrong... Now back to my turtles comics!

[Haddas]

2ma2. I have no gripes with your comic.

HOWEVER I find the layout of the actual site to be somewhat cumbersome if you use a larger resolution. Is there any way around it or will i just have to scroll around on a stamp? I see that this might be a somewhat trivial thing to "fix", but it just seems a bit silly.

http://content.imagesocket.com/images/layoutprob194.jpg

[m0ds]

Nice comic, Linus! Really really well drawn and quite funny, too!

[Helm]

The curseword is there to stand out. Lucius ain't the character to use such language, it is there to emphasize how much he doesn't want Abel to move up from the basement.

Do this better. 'Wild Horse Skullfucking' is just something that doesn't work for any other aim than to show you're awkward with english.

[DGMacphee]

DG: I kinda like the heavy dialogue within webcomics. The strip medium often demands to cut down on text and deliver punchlines like clockwork. The webcomic medium however can work with changes in lenght and tempo, handing out new storytelling possebilities. I don't think I will cut down on dialogue, I aim for the pseudointellectual approach rather than visually appealing storytelling. But we'll see...

I'm not too sure how jokes about vampires fucking blow-up dolls and "Wild Horse Skullfucking" constitute pseudointellectual. Then again, I don't read much Anne Rice.

But I'm not sure if it's just the strip medium that demands it as such, but I think humour in general works better when it's tight. And if you go for a longer set-up, the pay-off has to be bigger.

Here's a great example of a comic from SexyLosers (NSFW) with a long set-up and a great pay-off.

Manic, ildu, DG and Helm: The curseword is there to stand out. Lucius ain't the character to use such language, it is there to emphasize how much he doesn't want Abel to move up from the basement. It is far from Victorian language, deliberatly so.

But the problem is we don't know these characters well enough to understand why Lucius is so against Abel moving from the basement that he'd resort to such potty talk. It just seems like the sort of phrase used to setup a joke you read in 99% of webcomics. The kind of joke where one character answers another character in a mean way causing the other to reply, "You could have just said 'No'."

I prefer comics with surprising endings/punchlines that knock the shit out of my guts. I like surprises. I like my expectations confounded.

But it is your comic. So best to go with what makes you feel comfortable. Regardless of what I say, it has a lot of potential and is impressively drawn.

[Scummbuddy]

I'm not too sure how jokes about vampires fucking blow-up dolls and "Wild Horse Skullfucking" constitute pseudointellectual. Then again, I don't read much Anne Rice.

The idea was that the vampire was stalking its prey, in this case, a sex toy... it could have been a mannequin, but the vampire would be trying out its neck biting abilites, not having sex with it.

Oh, and Sexy Losers has been a favorite of mine for quite some years too.

[DGMacphee]

I was talking about Lucius at the end of the strip. Not Abel stalking the "prey".

I can only assume Lucius wanted to have some sex with the inflatable doll. Unless he was just saying "hello there" to it and NOTHING ELSE.

[Scummbuddy]

To be honest, I didn't read the info about the strip, so I assumed that the younger of the two wasn't a vampire, so, nevermind then.

[rharpe]

The drawings are top notch! But the humor is completely dry. Humor is difficult to master because everyone has a different take on it. American humor versus British humor are completely different. Some people like more adult humor, some like slapstick, and others like witty antics.

You describe the characters in one way, but they act different from that description. 

[LGM]

Yeesh, everyone's a critic!

I personally think it's looking great. And it can only get better. Good luck, 2ma2. I'll be reading.

[Kweepa]

I think that Steve meant "ellipsises", not "ellipses"

Yes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis
Note the usage.

[Helm]

Yeesh, everyone's a critic!

I think Linus would agree he benefits more from this than from ass-patting, but he can step in and tell me otherwise if he wants.

[LGM]

Well, right, it's just I notice everyone has something to say. This isn't the critics lounge, and he wasn't asking for crit specifically...

I dunno. You don't go to a museum, look at the Picasso's work and say "Well... I think Picasso should've drawn the people more anatomically correct! The way he does it makes no sense!"

Oh well. I know the intentions are good, but where are the compliments?!

[DGMacphee]

Yes, where are the compliments, guys? I mean, apart from all the bits where everyone has said "wow, linus, that is visually stunning!" and "wow, vampires! good idea!" -- if we ignore all those bits, yeah, where are the fucking compliments??

And yeah, I know this isn't the Critics Lounge and 2ma2 wasn't asking for feedback, but what else do you expect when you post something like that here? For people to just go, "Wow, a comic. Good luck with that." and leave it at that?

Besides, I don't think anyone here has said "ur comic sux, stop drawing dood" -- In fact, just the opposite, we've all encouraged Linus to continue with it, regardless of what constructive criticism we offer. Like I said, it's got a lot of potential.

[ManicMatt]

Aye DGMacphee, and look, I had a hidden-ish compliment there:

For some reason, the second I got to the 'f' word the comic lost it's professionalism.

See I was saying it looks professional! 

[LGM]

Now you guys are critiquing what I am saying!!! WHERE DOES IT END?!?!?!  >:|

Okay, seriously. I don't care. I see comments, 2ma2 has probably taken something from everything said here... Except maybe this post. So I'll stop here.

[veryweirdguy]

DGMacphee, I give your criticism of LGM's comments a C- as it does not have enough 80s pop culture-type references. Maybe you should work on your critiquing a bit more at home?

[2ma2]

Helm: But I am awkward with english. And strangely enough, that sentence proved efficient with my fellow swedish readers. Could it be national specified humour?

DG: I said pseudo- didn't I?  About not knowing the character, come to think about it now, this wanders back into knowledge about the Clans and their specific traits. I guess I failed in maintaining a lesser need for WoD knowledge in that. Also, noone is sexing up the doll, they're both stalking their prey.

rharpe: I describe them differently than protraying them? Could you give me examples. I find that quite troublesome.

Also, I do appreaciate everyones criticism. Comics are like every other medium. Easy to learn, difficult to master. Although, Helm, "Do it better" is not that good of a tip.  Either way, I get enough of praise elsewhere. Slay away.

[Chrille]

I love the art and the first comic was great though it would perhaps work even better had Lucius not said anything, instead just wearing that look on his face.

I think the third comic would be much funnier had it just ended with the second to last panel. It is as though the punchline is him calling her a silly bitch. The slapstick alone would work great as end to that lengthy buildup.