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Title: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Anghellic on Fri 14/04/2006 18:05:41
Well I was just chilling around at this forum and thought: " hey let's make an adventure game togheter with my friend". So asked my friend what he thought about this idea. He said something like: "wtf adventure games?????". So I figured, i'll paste him this site and that will clear things up for him. Well at first he didn't want to open it because he thought it was some nasty porn site or something. When I finnally managed to force him to open it I thought: " hé he's right, the name bigbluecup actually makes no sense..." So:

Who came up with that wicked blue cup and what does it mean??
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Mr Flibble on Fri 14/04/2006 18:36:31
Its origins lie far back in time,  when the source code for Adventure Creator 1.0 fell through a hole in the space/time continuum, and into CJ's waiting hard drive. Oddly enough, it was not discovered for several years, and was stumbled upon quite by chance, mixed in amongst CJ's vast collection of cup porn.

Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: ManicMatt on Fri 14/04/2006 20:37:50
That's not what I heard.

It was in fact a blue cup that CJ had been too lazy to move from his desk. It sat there, for many years, this big blue cup. The mould inside had previously been the remants of coffee, but you wouldn't know from looking. One day, CJ finally decided to remove the cup due to the foul odour it was creating. He peered insdie the mug. Behold! A new lifeform had evolved from his waste! The lifeform was so intelligent that it taught CJ how to write computer code. His gratitude was displayed by giving his AGS website the name of their hometown, the big blue mug.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: R4L on Fri 14/04/2006 21:00:05
lol but I have also heard different...

Cj was being attacked by various alien life forces who, everyday and every night, would force him to program games for them. One day, a alien said, "This game is garbage!" and he attempted to kill CJ. As CJ closed his eyes waiting for an alien death beam to strike him dead, a blue cup suddenly came to the rescue! Using it's blue cup powers, it eliminated the alien race, which is why we can't find aliens today. Afterwards, using his knowledge of programming, he created Adventure Game Studio and him and blue cup came to an agreement and decided to use the blue cup as the AGS avatar.

Would you see it any other way? I don't think so...
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: magintz on Fri 14/04/2006 21:31:55
Sorry to ruin everyones fun, but apparently that was the extent of CJ's drawing ability and needed something to be an inventory object... and it just kinda became the symbol and logo of AGS. Ask Pumaman.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Radiant on Fri 14/04/2006 21:52:13
(http://crystalshard.net/img/metaback.jpg)(http://crystalshard.net/img/metaback.jpg)(http://crystalshard.net/img/metaback.jpg)

Nine out of ten Cuppits disagree with you!
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: skw on Fri 14/04/2006 21:56:31
Quote from: Anghellic on Fri 14/04/2006 18:05:41Well at first he didn't want to open it because he thought it was some nasty porn site or something.

http://www.pornolize.com/pornolize4?lang=en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fadventuregamestudio.co.uk&submit=Translate. Isn't it?
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Raggit on Fri 14/04/2006 22:00:04
Even though magintz's theory is probable, the orgin of the Blue Cup is not known for certain. Ã, AGS historians and mythology experts have debated this for many years, but have yet to come upon scientific evidence to prove the orgin of the Blue Cup.

As a result of the Blue Cup's mysterious orgins and meaning, many offshoot religions have been formed to worship it's seemingly endless supply of life and power. Ã, Unsubstantiated rumors claim that sacrifices have been made in it's name, but this is just talk.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Afflict on Fri 14/04/2006 22:12:02
No no no...

The big blue cup is the way CJ hid this brilliant technology from Lucas *ilms and Si**ra. Cj had to hide it in some womens big blue cup in order for it not to be detected where he could gladly upload it onto the internet for all to see!

No seriously no idea you will have to get the pumaman on this.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Paper Carnival on Fri 14/04/2006 22:50:32
Guys, guys

You've all been consumed by this endless debate about Blue Cup that leads to nowhere but division among your brethren. You've argued so much that you've forgotten how the Blue Cup is to be worshipped. Please, think of your actions, the days of the Anti-Blue Cup are near!
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Afflict on Fri 14/04/2006 22:54:28
weve been made...  :o

Just  :D and wave boys just  :D and wave...
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Rolf on Sat 15/04/2006 01:03:10
I have many cups in my house of the grandmothers.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Gilbert on Sat 15/04/2006 03:41:29
N00bs (http://americangirlscouts.org/agswiki/index.php/Blue_Cup).
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Raggit on Sat 15/04/2006 03:51:44
Quote from: Gilbot V7000a on Sat 15/04/2006 03:41:29
N00bs (http://americangirlscouts.org/agswiki/index.php/Blue_Cup).

HEY!  I resent that!!   ;)
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: ManicMatt on Sat 15/04/2006 10:37:40
Quote from: Gilbot V7000a on Sat 15/04/2006 03:41:29
N00bs (http://americangirlscouts.org/agswiki/index.php/Blue_Cup).

Pshh yeah right! IT'S A COVER UP!!
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Ali on Sat 15/04/2006 14:32:05
Okay, but why is it big blue cup?

To my mind the true blue cup is quite small. Is there perhaps a larger mother-cup about which we know nothing?
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Hammerite on Sat 15/04/2006 14:39:25
Quote from: Rolf on Sat 15/04/2006 01:03:10
I have many cups in my house of the grandmothers.

And I have a table.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: IM NOT TEH SPAM on Sat 15/04/2006 23:00:21
Because, the website itself is a big blue cup.  How do you think all the forums and forum members fit here?
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: sergiocornaga on Sat 15/04/2006 23:39:03
I think the big just came about randomly from the time when www.agsforums.com got all overloaded and had to be replaced.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Helli78 on Sun 16/04/2006 00:18:42
oh dears,

be more honest when discuss about some -REAL- SERIOUS things like this!!! Please!!!

:D ;D ;D ;D


laughing *ROTFL*
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: edmundito on Sun 16/04/2006 08:55:01
Dude, I told CJ we should have gone with bigpinkposter.com. Wait, that also sounds quite dirty.

But here is the TRUE story, and don't believe what magintz said earlier:

CJ used to not have any money (nor he does now, anyway), so one day he decided to venture into the business of the internet, and he knew exactly what people would pay to see: Porno, porno, porno! So he started adventuregamestudio.co.uk and the famous americangirlscouts.org. American Girl Scouts had to be shut down after it became illegal in 75% of the countries in the world due to its "immature" content, and the big blue cup on girl/guy fetish was not really appealing to anyone.

So CJ sat there and thought for months. He really had created two monsters. What to do. He had to redeem himself.

It was after playing space quest for the 11th time that he realized that he really liked adventure games, but at the time they were dying, so he had a vision where other adventure fans could make adventure games, too. So he wrote adventure game studio, conveniently named after the initials of american girl scouts, and he was a new man after that. He never looked back on the past and this is where we are today.

The bluecup was the first sprite in honor/as a reminder of his past attempt to succeed in life. And because he owned those two domain names, he used them up anyway; it saved him some money!

And that's the true story. Pumaman can confirm it!
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Anghellic on Sun 16/04/2006 12:39:22
hmmm that sounds reasonable. Now a confirm of Pumaman and I believe you  :D
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Helli78 on Sun 16/04/2006 12:59:09
the REAL story is:

CJ felt asleep and in (t)his strange dream he was kidnapped by a very big blue cup. First the cup wants money and hot coffee (filled into itself). Unless some end- and useless discussions between CJ and the "very bigbluecup" , the police came in and wanted to clear the situation, but they cant really do anything.
they called a yellow spoon. this spoon comes soon to help CJ. The spoon told an advice , like "cups cant talk" and "CJ had already some hot coffee drunken". THAT WAS THE POINT!
the cup said "thats true!", then she apologizes CJ, after then she shrinks.
and this maybe was or wasnt a dream? now, i cant really tell you what of this is true or not? !what do the readers think?
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Ishmael on Sun 16/04/2006 14:03:04
Don't try to be funny about this, because you can't. Almost all (if not all) of the "veterans" know the story, and it's in the wiki too.

CJ can't draw very well, as we can see from sprite 0 in the default template. := I have no idea where it came from, but it got the referencee status when newbies started drowing into the stuff in it. And it's big probably because there is a big picture of a blue cup in the AGS splash screen.

But why do newbies drown in it? Not many know, and even fewer can guess.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Mr Flibble on Sun 16/04/2006 14:15:30
Did CJ draw the Roger cycle, or was it *shifty glances* ripped from a SQ game I haven't played?
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Tuomas on Sun 16/04/2006 16:00:03
I always logically thought that the blue cup was big because it says so in the url of this site. Think of it, it does make sense. Why would it be small of green if it says differently in the address, that would just confuse people more.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Paper Carnival on Sun 16/04/2006 22:09:45
But that spoils the fun! Wouldn't it be more mysterious if we didn't know the size of the cup? Everyone then would have the possibility to give their own size to the cup, the way it works for them. Throwing away the adjective "big" ruins all the fun, rapes our imagination and blatantly forces us to accept an idea of a big cup that CJ shoves down our throats in the disguise of a cute little adventure engine. No thanks!
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Anghellic on Sun 16/04/2006 22:16:41
well now you can fantasize about what disgusting porn the name bigbluecup will behold, and then get dissapointed instead.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: monkey0506 on Mon 17/04/2006 04:29:00
The fact of the matter is, once a very long time ago, CJ actually had a job.  He worked in the managerial offices of a coffee cup production factory, shredding legal documents, and getting paid 10 pence per box (shredding between 50 and 60 boxes of paper per hour).

The factory produced only one type of coffe mug, large clear ones.  Though the cups were clear, they collected light quite nicely.  One day Chris was just sitting in his cubicle, gathering up the next box to take downstairs to the basement, which is inconveniently where the shredder was located, when by a sheer chance of miraculous luck, a Hooloovoo was refracted into a coffee mug he had sitting on his desk, his complimentary gift for having worked with the company for the past 10 years.

Captured inside the cup, the Hooloovoo (named JohN) looked around and gathered its bearings.  It saw lying around Chris's cubicle copies of old Sierra and LucasArts adventure games (which at the time weren't really old games ;)).  JohN told Chris of his homeland.  "Once," he said, "We too enjoyed playing adventure games.  Games that challenged the player to think for himself to advance the story instead of just mashing buttons."

Chris was completely dumbfounded to hear a coffee mug which had suddenly become super-intelligently blue talking to him.  It was a few seconds before he realized that the cup (or rather the Hooloovoo refracted into the cup) had told him that he used to enjoy playing adventure games.  "You played adventure games?" He asked, "Why did you stop?"

"New technology arose, and the production of the games ended.  The newer technology was not compatible with the older games, and the new generation of "gamers" was a mindless set of button-mashers.  'The genre is dead!'  That's what they, and the game developers, said."

"That's terrible!" said Chris.

"But completely true," continued JohN, "and it will happen to your planet too."

"NOOOOO--" Chris started, but JohN interrupted:  "Unless you do something about it."

"What can I do?" inquired Chris desperately.

"I will teach you," JohN told Chris.  They developed a rather special bond.  JohN taught Chris about computer programming, and helped him to write Adventure Creator.  For three and a half years JohN mentored Chris.  Then Chris got fired.

Apparently not doing your job for three years means you are going to lose it.  JohN was set free when the cup was smashed by Chris's father (who was a might bit upset at the time).

But JohN had given Chris the skills he would need to save our world from a fate worse than his own world's.  Chris commemorated his friend of three and a half years by filling the first sprite with a portrait of the cup drawn by Chris.  In later years JohN would learn of the great success Adventure Creator (and eventually Adventure Game Studio) had become.

Though he has never since contacted Chris, he says "I still remember him.  Crazy bloke.  Bloody brilliant.  Just, absolutely insane."
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: TheYak on Mon 17/04/2006 04:45:03
The fairy-tales are lovely, but the actual origins are far more bland.  At the tender age of 16, during which time adventure games were still being made, he realized that, lacking much in the way of artistic talent, he'd at least like to create an engine to enable others to create them. 

After studying and programming for some time, he eventually had to seek gainful employment (which, incidentally, was as an office-supply clerk).  No sooner had he gotten the Employee of the Month award (which just happened to be a bland blue mug with EOM scrawled upon it with a Sharpee) than he was caught pretending that things around the office belonged in his "inventory". 

Kicked to the curb and without financial support to enable him to realize his dreams, he sat dejected on a street corner holding his blue cup.  After a long while, a couple of passers-by dropped a couple quid in his cup, and he understood how he could finance his operations.  To this day, he survives by working popular street corners, and it's all due to chance charity invited by his big blue cup. 

Alternately, the site could be named after Hefty Smurf's athletic attire.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Alynn on Mon 17/04/2006 07:26:45
The origins of the BBC (Big Blue Cup in this case) is truely unimportant.  After all the benevolence of the Cup abounds, and therefore it matters not. It just IS and that should be enough for anyone.

However, we must study the origins of the Small Red Cup, the arch enemy of the Big Blue Cup. By knowing the Enemy you may yet find ways to defeat It.

And the Red Cup offered unto the Chris Jones, a drink. And, lo! CJ hath refused stating, "The Blue Cup overflowith, I shall drink from It, and be satisfied."

The Book Of Blue
Roger 12:8
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Paper Carnival on Mon 17/04/2006 11:47:33
You people don't know anything ???

The reason of the magnificent power that dwells within this Great Blue Cup (I use "great" not as an adjective expressing a physical size; refer to my previous post) is because this cup is, in fact, the Holy Grail.

As said in the Revelation of Jones, chapter 5:
And behold, there was a heavenly cup [blue, as the colour of the sky], and the Lamb drinketh from the cup; Then the Lamb filled the cup with the wine of His wrath and poured it over Babylon, the Great City. And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters.

So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having an orange cup
[which is none other than the Anti-Blue Cup, as orange is the inverted colour of blue] in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication.

It strikes me how the biblical knowledge of people nowadays has declined. It is yet another sign of the end times!
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: rharpe on Mon 17/04/2006 15:32:10
I finally got myself a blue cup! I'll post some pics later on.  ;D

...It's later now:
(http://home.earthlink.net/~rharpe75/bigbluecup.jpg)
I likes it... do you?  8)
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: ManicMatt on Mon 17/04/2006 15:37:30
Quote from: rharpe on Mon 17/04/2006 15:32:10
I finally got myself a blue cup! I'll post some pics later on.Ã,  ;D
Curse you! I have a blue T-shirt, a blue mattress, blue curtains, a blue movie and a blue teddybear, but no blue cup!

Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Haddas on Mon 17/04/2006 16:37:19
Quote from: rharpe on Mon 17/04/2006 15:32:10
I finally got myself a blue cup! I'll post some pics later on.  ;D

Ah yes. But I ask you... Have you... THIS?!?:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Haddas/CID__qxDHJwoN1U_.jpg)
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Huw Dawson on Mon 17/04/2006 20:07:19
I would think that the origins of the blue cup was obvious. CJ is, in fact,  a giant sentient shape-shifting computer coding mutant... he named the site after himself.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Scummbuddy on Mon 17/04/2006 20:58:04
When Worlds Collide!!


(http://www.lucasstyle.com/images/ags/deepbluecup.jpg)
Chris takes the Big Blue Cup to meet the Deep Blue SuperComputer. Thus, adventure games were born.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: rharpe on Wed 19/04/2006 06:21:16
Hey Chris Jones, where is the blue cup that inspired you? Post it in this thread. What do you think of my new cup I just acquired?  8)
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Elliott Hird on Wed 19/04/2006 13:51:31
Excellent.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Andail on Wed 19/04/2006 13:54:28
Jesus, not another one. Is this condition contagious?

Planktonman, Rolf, whoever; please go away. You're not funny, only annoying.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Elliott Hird on Wed 19/04/2006 14:32:01
I haven't seen many of his posts, so I'm still in the "it's fecking funny" bandwagon. It'll probably become annoying quickly, though.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Ishmael on Thu 20/04/2006 17:13:41
It has already.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Mr Flibble on Thu 20/04/2006 17:21:41
I heard that CJ was high and watching Star Trek. You know, the porn episode. With all the alien wangs.

Anyway, Big Blue Cup is a typo.

And his art dept. can only draw what they are told.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: lo_res_man on Thu 20/04/2006 17:23:53
could someone tell me the TRUE reason ( if it is known) :-\
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Mr Flibble on Thu 20/04/2006 17:28:31
What did I just say?
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: Layabout on Thu 20/04/2006 18:27:30
It's named after the sex toy cj had, which m0ds stole. THere ares teh evidence!!!
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: monkey0506 on Thu 20/04/2006 19:49:51
Quote from: lo_res_man on Thu 20/04/2006 17:23:53
could someone tell me the TRUE reason ( if it is known) :-

Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Thu 01/01/1970 01:00:00http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=26059.msg329590#msg329590

I told you how it is.  Was.  Will be.

[EDIT:]

In any case.  Time is irrelevant.  Which is why I quoted myself as having written that link long before the thread it links to was created.

[EDIT:]

I did in fact write the link before I was born.  No one can defeat me.
Title: Re: What's with this blue cup?
Post by: lo_res_man on Thu 20/04/2006 19:53:02
OH really, well say hi to elvis for me on your next trip to Xenon ;D