Now even though this is already out of control
...I just need to know why am i contently battling with people/ & why they start with me.
I mean I read the forum rule's but everyone makes it seem like there is a fine print in it & I am just a blind bat
tell me...I just don't see it...
like my post were we were talking about COD I think. Everyone made so many good/mean comments that i felt tricked that's why I blow up like that....
It could be your lack of grammar. But hell, what do I know.
When I first joined here, I made an ass of myself. That was mainly due to my age (I was 9 at the time I believe) so the only thing I can say is be mature and actually use punctuation and grammar.
humm....I think that is it! or part of it least
You say you've read the forum rules but, it seems you weren't following it completely. From the last thread you've opened up I can see why people acted the way they did.
I joined the forums when I was around 14 and let me tell you there are quite a number of posts in the past that just makes me cringe (I never really got into any sort of trouble though, since my sis is a spelling and grammar Nazi- it rubbed off on me). My maturity was quite questionable, still kind of is, but I stay behind the red lines.
Tip 1) If you can't say anything good, don't say anything at all.
2) don't get offended if someone bashes you for something you did, part of acting mature is being the bigger
person here, if the majority of people on the forums say you're doing something wrong, then you probably are,
just say sorry, keep mum and don't do anything until you read the rules a million more times til you understand
what it is you are doing wrong; it's not that hard.
Most of the people who replied to your completed game thread were really just trying to help and I could tell they were being very patient.
Members around here tend to mock (within reason) those who don't follow simple guidelines, just saying you "read the rules" isn't enough, you have to actually follow it.
(and don't tell me you did, because you didn't, plain and simple)
AGS might not be the community for you, at least not right now. It doesn't matter how old you are, what matters is how old you behave.
I don't get up set right away when people say something I don't like,only when it keeps pile-ling on top of me.
it may seem like it but i did read the rules.
Quote from: icey games on Sun 06/06/2010 07:32:43
I don't get up set right away when people say something I don't like,only when it keeps pile-ling on top of me.
it may seem like it but i did read the rules.
Well how about we look at a few of your posts and cross reference them with the rules?
Quote from: icey games ("comeing soon| Pub master quest 2 check out! ")
For some time now I have been working on pmq1 gold hits now I have made up my mine to start on part 2 but I don't want it to be a demo so I am going to make it into 3-4 chapters frist off since my game was really ff.xiii I will be making chap 1:ifrit's crystal + and the game will be in a ps1 ff7-9 like world so I am making the players 3d like.
Quote from: The Rules
1) Your game must actually be 'in production'.
2) A minimum of two (in-game) screenshots must be available.
3) You must have a clear outline of the story/plot.
4) ONE thread per game only!
5) The subject line must be the title of your game.
6) Progress/Status Report (optional)
1) you have shown no evidence of your game being in production.
2) No screenshots have been provided.
3) No outline of the plot was provided.
4) As far as I could see... you only posted one thread for this game. This rule was followed.
5) Although "Pub master quest 2" was in the title, you did not follow the format set out in the rules, and it seems like you didn't even take the time to read it back, as there are spelling errors in it. (Coming = comeing)
6) This was not provided.
All in all... One rule out of 6 followed...
Quote from: icey games ("Neku's new trip" - Completed Games Announcements)
With-in the following week a new game I have been working on will be out in ags(neku's new trip) a story of the SQUARE ENIX game (the world ends with you) for more infomation on the game visit www.pubmembers.webs.com for the news on iceygames...games
Quote from: The Rules
1. There MUST be a finished download of your project available.
2. The thread title must contain the game's name. Starting a thread just titled "My new game" is not acceptable.
1) Not Followed.
2) Followed.
Reading the rules is no use, Icey, unless you follow them. I'm not going to dig up any more of your posts, but you always seem to be posting in the wrong place, such as the time you tried to start your own competition without authorisation (the competitions thread is restricted). This gets on peoples nerves, and you've been doing it for almost a year now. How are we supposed to believe that you've read the rules if you continue to disregard them?
You lash out at people who tell you to follow the rules, and act as though they've 'got it in for you' and you never, ever, EVER take any advice given on board. Why post if you aren't willing to listen to the replies? Because you never do anything, people repeat the criticisms/advice. (This is possibly why you feel the people are "pile-ling" (a.k.a. piling) on top of you.)
past 10 months, but for a long time your posts were completely unreadable. It's not a difficult thing to get right. Everyone else can do it, why can't you?
I didn't download your game, but from what I've heard, it's a complete mess of thrown together ripped graphics with an unintuitive and poorly created user interface and an unnecessary file size. It appears that you have put
little to no not enough effort into your game, and have not made any attempt to remedy the flaws that people have mentioned in the Completed Game Thread.
So in these posts, you scored a 2 out of a possible 8, and an acceptable 7. There is no 'fine print' you are missing. You are missing the bold print. There is even an
example of how to make a GIP thread in the rules!
My suggestions:Learn and master the English language. There is even a help thread (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=38116.0) in these forums!
Spell check things that you write.
Beta test your games before you release them.
I hope you found this useful, I'm making one last attempt to get through to you here... I just hope you don't ignore my advice as you have ignored so many others...
Let's not feed the troll (or we'll get Dualnames angry (http://ags-ssh.blogspot.com/2010/06/forumswell.html))
Quote from: icey games on Sun 06/06/2010 07:32:43
it may seem like it but i did read the rules.
I think you have identified the problem right there. The act of reading the rules is less important than appearing as though you have read the rules. I've read through them a couple of times since I signed up, but I'll be the first to admit that I don't remember what every rule is (probably could do with a reread, now that I think about it). But I haven't gotten into much trouble here, because I'm familiar enough with the types of behavioral expectations that generally accompany message boards with moderate standards of conduct and rule enforcement. So I generally behave appropriately to the setting without having to think about it.
You don't have the luxury of a "natural" tendency follow the rules right now, because you haven't internalized them yet. It really is a learned thing. Spend enough time on forums like this one, and you'll eventually catch on. Until then, it might not hurt you to be a little extra careful.
One thing you might try doing is reading (or scanning) the rules again every time you start a new thread. Both the main forum rules, and the rules for the subforum you are posting in. This sounds really boring and time wasting, especially since you have already read them, but you shouldn't have to do it too many times before you catch on. I would also do this when people start "piling on" as you say. See if you can find the rule they say you are breaking, read it carefully, and do your best to follow it in the future. If you can't find the rule in question, try asking in as polite terms as possible where the rule is that you are breaking. Make sure they know that you looked. Most likely someone will be happy to point it out for you (whether or not they do so politely).
Scarab pointed out a couple of specific rule violations. What you need to learn to do is spot them on your own and prevent them from happening. Try to improve, and most importantly try to make it "look" like you are trying to improve, because it is true that any number of things could be happening on your end, but unless they are obvious to people on the forum, not everyone is going to assume the best.
To put this another way: I have often seen you say that you do read the rules and listen to the advice people give you (personally, I am inclined to believe you, for what it's worth). The problem is that some people are not seeing evidence that these are things you are doing. So what you need to do is manipulate people into believing that you follow rules and listen to advice. Get inside their heads as best you can and ask yourself "if I were this person, what would Icey have to do to make me think he was following rules and taking advice."
Quote from: bicilotti on Sun 06/06/2010 11:51:47
Let's not feed the troll (or we'll get Dualnames angry (http://ags-ssh.blogspot.com/2010/06/forumswell.html))
Italian bastards! They always read your mind. 8)
Personally I like when the ice cream is red and feels like strawberry. Speaking of which why the taste of ice-cream strawberry doesn't even match the real one? In my opinion it barely resembles it. I love strawberry and strawberry ice-cream, but I've always noticed that.
I will look up for an article I found once stating the weirdness and it gives an explanation behind that, so I will edit this.
I know exactly what you mean... like there is a particular 'flavour' that has been named 'strawberry flavour' and is used in sweets, ice cream, milk shakes etc, but it doesn't really taste anything like strawberries when you think about it.... same goes for banana 'flavour'.
humm...so it's the rules then...
back when I said i was working on pmq.2 i really was but i was just getting to know the forums plus there was know modify button that's why there was know pics & same with NNT(chap1) the pics didn't come to later on in the topic.Chap 1 of PMQ.2 is finished so I got 3 more to go I just never topiced it back up in a year...although I would like to go over it a bit to fix the problems it had last year that maid me not talk about it.
Yes, indeed Stu, also the banana flavour which is my favorite! ;D, also a great number of ice-cream/candy flavours are this way. I've always kind of wondered why.
Yeah, and don't forget cola flavour. From past experience I now never eat anything that spells Cola as Kola. I can still taste those Kola cubes now >:(
I'm not sure if anyone's ever got those in their country, but there were HARIBO brand candies that were shaped like an old cola bottle and had cola flavour. Kola? Never heard that though AG.
I had the same problem that you mention with "ntolmadakia" a Greek food. It hit me so bad in my stomach, (like a scissor ripping it apart) that every time I think about it, and/or smell something similar, I almost throw up.
Quote from: Dualnames on Sun 06/06/2010 15:40:17
I'm not sure if anyone's ever got those in their country, but there were HARIBO brand candies that were shaped like an old cola bottle and had cola flavour. Kola? Never heard that though AG.
I had the same problem that you mention with "ntolmadakia" a Greek food. It hit me so bad in my stomach, (like a scissor ripping it apart) that every time I think about it, and/or smell something similar, I almost throw up.
We have these here all the time. And I eat 'em all the time. I'll send you ten packets if you pay the price, plus a 500 Euros base fee.
are they the gummie cola bottles like the gummie bears
The forum rules are one thing, another is that you still - how did Andail put it - write like you're typing in your mobile phone while running away from a fire... so reading your posts is not a pleasure.
Quote from: Stupot on Sun 06/06/2010 15:17:56
I know exactly what you mean... like there is a particular 'flavour' that has been named 'strawberry flavour' and is used in sweets, ice cream, milk shakes etc, but it doesn't really taste anything like strawberries when you think about it.... same goes for banana 'flavour'.
Is it just me, or do they do this with cherry flavour as well... I'd be really interested to find out who the first companies/products that developed these flavours were.
It's the same with crisps... for example all brands of 'Roast Chicken' flavour crisps all have that familiar Roast Chicken 'Flavour' going on, but in no way do they taste anything remotely like Roast Chicken.
I've gotten so used to the generic 'fake' strawberry flavour, that when I actually ate a real strawberry it tasted like grapes to me :-\
Anyone else find it weird that you get a red line under 'colour' or 'flavour'. I mean this is mainly a British orientated site, what's with the American spell check? Then again I guess it's the browser. CURSE YOU AMERICAN SPELLING!!! >:(
Is it weird that I have a mostly American accent yet use the British spelling?
Wait what does this have anything to do with birdflu?
Chickens are really aliens that came to our planet in the year 90000000B.C and have been planning world domination for years, they created the Americans to influence others to do their bidding via the media and that's why Roast chicken flavour chips don't taste like Chicken, they are actually human bones grinned and mixed with flour that they use as flavouring. The chickens are turning us into cannibals! They've hid the truth by making us panic with this Chicken pox crap in the past, now they're averting our attention to "birdflu" what's next? Telemarketing?
I'm still bitter about how bad those last couple of years of the X-Files were.
I do get 'flavour' and 'colour' yes, does anyone feel it's a mistake when somebody goes flavor or color?
I also miss Buffy and I'm hesitant to finish the last season of Angel. Today Buffy the movie was on.
You know what I like?
Pineapples.
I think a really useful invention is the wristwatch. It allows the freedom to wear clothes without pockets whilst still having the knowledge of the time at your fingertips. Not to mention the increased speed at which you can tell the time.
I used to hate pineapples, but recently I developed a taste for them.
Crazy world in which we live.
Rather. Don't forget to nibble the spikes off!
Well, IMHO, I don't like it THAT hot. I prefer the weather a little cooler.
Well, I disagree. I think that the Star Control games would make a GREAT movie. And if none of you can see that, then I wonder why we're talking about video game movies in the first place.
And what's the deal with pamphlets?
They're not pams or phlets!
You know what I hate? Those cherry flavoured cranberries. If I wanted to eat a bite-sized fruit that tasted like cherries, I would eat cherries. Cranberries flavoured like the bastard child of plastic and synthetic avocados are fruit in the same way that corpses are telephone poles.
Discordance, I agree with you to a certain extent. True that while they shouldn't be flavoring cranberries like cherries, but rather sell cherries themselves, I'd have to say that they taste pretty good.
Anyway, more on topic; It's not just about following the rules. It's about using proper grammar and spellings. Reading through you're posts, you tend to have about 5 sentences merged into one long run on sentence. You don't capitalize, you don't punctuate, and you don't spell correct. These are probably the elements that are key to being taken seriously. I don't know how old you are, but I can say that when I first started posting on the internet when I was 10, I wrote much better than you do.
I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the extraction process. I have a bottle of lemon extract and I added it to some icecream. It tasted exactly like "fake" lemon flavor. So really, I think the fake flavor is what you get when you concentrate the real flavor and then water it down again. It's like lossy compression formats or something.
Dualnames, Stupot, etc, call me stupid, but I honestly do not see the reason to fill this thread with nonsense. In fact, I find this teribbly annoying. Even more annoying than icey games' bad grammar.
Isn't what you do a violation of forum rules on its own?
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sun 06/06/2010 22:44:56
Isn't what you do a violation of forum rules on its own?
You got us there ::). At least I recognized the fact that we were off topic and aimed the thread back on course.
Disregarding Crimson's post, I have to ask an important question here- what about black liquorice allsorts? It's absolutely disgusting and I know people who love it... ::)
Quote from: grim107 on Sun 06/06/2010 22:40:59
when I was 10, I wrote much better than you do.
I could say piss off!...but that would prove a lot of things that are not true.Things like that you could have said better not nicer. As I looked though my old post I noticed my friends writing came out the same way it does when I use my phone bunched up so I knew it was not how i write but only when I use my phone. Oh! and one more thing /:] - stop talking about fake flavor stuff because I might as well change the name to why do I hate FAKE flavored snacks.
It's also today's generation, they don't know how to type anything without everything being an acronym or swiss cheese sentences. ;D
It's that damn 140 character limit on texts.
So you all have been talking about ice cream all this time?
Some what
CW you're one of the greatest guys, but please take this lightly.
Did you not ever wonder about strawberry?
Quote from: icey games on Sun 06/06/2010 23:28:44
Quote from: grim107 on Sun 06/06/2010 22:40:59
when I was 10, I wrote much better than you do.
I could say piss off!...but that would prove a lot of things that are not true.Things like that you could have said better not nicer. As I looked though my old post I noticed my friends writing came out the same way it does when I use my phone bunched up so I knew it was not how i write but only when I use my phone. Oh! and one more thing /:] - stop talking about fake flavor stuff because I might as well change the name to why do I hate FAKE flavored snacks.
Getting upset? Icey, looking at some of the posts, I don't think your friends are a good example to follow on AGS posting 'etiquette' if you may.
Personally I usually use proper grammar and spelling in text messages, I don't care if that makes me a 'n00b' but it's a damn breath of fresh air.
The point of posting 'in a mature manner' (as stated above the text-box of this site's reply to message option page, also a part of a summarized "three golden rules" segment- simply put explore the contents of the page) is *not* to type via leet-speak or MSN chat style. (although I think lol is allowed, no? maybe? no?
*I* better CHECK the rules(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/dagaran/rules.png)
I always felt the random posts up to now had a sort of metaphorical meaning really...fake flavours.
PS. I spell better too at 10 years old, then again I distinctly remember when the teacher wouldn't let us go home on time unless we spelled something right.
...Dermandeteculites... ugh...
Quote from: vertigoaddict on Mon 07/06/2010 00:00:07
Quote from: icey games on Sun 06/06/2010 23:28:44
Quote from: grim107 on Sun 06/06/2010 22:40:59
when I was 10, I wrote much better than you do.
I could say piss off!...but that would prove a lot of things that are not true.Things like that you could have said better not nicer. As I looked though my old post I noticed my friends writing came out the same way it does when I use my phone bunched up so I knew it was not how i write but only when I use my phone. Oh! and one more thing /:] - stop talking about fake flavor stuff because I might as well change the name to why do I hate FAKE flavored snacks.
Getting upset? Icey, looking at some of the posts, I don't think your friends are a good example to follow on AGS posting 'etiquette' if you may.
Personally I usually use proper grammar and spelling in text messages, I don't care if that makes me a 'n00b' but it's a damn breath of fresh air.
The point of posting 'in a mature manner' (as stated above the text-box of this site's reply to message option page, also a part of a summarized "three golden rules" segment- simply put explore the contents of the page) is *not* to type via leet-speak or MSN chat style. (although I think lol is allowed, no? maybe? no? *I* better CHECK the rules
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/dagaran/rules.png)
I always felt the random posts up to now had a sort of metaphorical meaning really...fake flavours.
PS. I spell better too at 10 years old, then again I distinctly remember when the teacher wouldn't let us go home on time unless we spelled something right.
...Dermandeteculites... ugh...
why would it make you a n00b.I MEAN I'M ONLY 15 ALL/MOST OF US TEENS TYPE LIKE THAT.I didn't really start till I started using AIM on my phone
"I'M ONLY 15 ALL/MOST OF US TEENS TYPE LIKE THAT"
The point is you're not meant to. Honestly I've noticed that the people in my university act like kinder gardeners sometimes...okay, most of the time. (age range 18-23)
Is it just me or are the new generation of teenagers/ young adults becoming more and more...well I dare not say it.
Kinda reminds me of that movie I saw about this average man who went far into the future to learn that, when he got there, he became the smartest man on earth.
Well I guess when someone says the moon is smaller than an elephant then we're all doomed.
QuoteKinda reminds me of that movie I saw about this average man who went far into the future to learn that, when he got there, he became the smartest man on earth.
Oh man.. you speak of Idiocracy, correct? That movie was absolutely terrible. The only enjoyable part of the movie that I can remember was the Gatorade replacing the water in fountains. Haha. Silly Americans and their soft drinks / power drinks. I can see this being the norm... one day... one day..
People are already eating onion rings that have no onions in them and strawberry flavoured foods that aren't even strawberry flavoured.
...
I feel like crying now.
Some members are part of this community and they are younger than you are! I ,when I joined this forums, was kind like you, some of the guys probably remember it. It's not much beauty. I still go posting like an ass, and sometimes my post aren't really clear on their purpose. But the difference is that you don't want to behave. I don't know why I bother really. Most the AGS regulars have probably broken the 3rd rule, to make you see. Including me, and I justify them.
To the rest, this took off as a discussion, because I'd rather talk about flavours. It seems more important to me. If you think this is annoying, then this whole Oceanspirit Dennis and icey games is for me as well. But I stopped protesting on the AGS forums, cause I guess some of you are having fun.
This whole deal has taken too much time away from cool parts of the forums. Vince took some great effort to make a really great competition and barely those that participated voted for it. And that's a shame cause overall this would have been the highlight of the month. If I'm wrong, please treat me lightly this is my opinion on this matter.
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sun 06/06/2010 22:44:56
Dualnames, Stupot, etc, call me stupid, but I honestly do not see the reason to fill this thread with nonsense. In fact, I find this teribbly annoying. Even more annoying than icey games' bad grammar.
Isn't what you do a violation of forum rules on its own?
I think this is just a matter of giving up on the kid.
I'm personally not going to acknowledge anything written by him until he can demonstrate these:
Quote from: Scarab on Sun 06/06/2010 09:37:14
My suggestions:
Learn and master the English language.
Spell check things that you write.
Beta test your games before you release them.
And I'm not sure it would be the worst idea for others in the forum who are fed up to do the same.
I think that icey got the general gist: Write decent English, with decent format, grammar and spelling (<-unlike me for the last part). Write sensible stuff and don't bother people all the time. Read the rules.
MOST impotantly, relax and have a good time.
Quote from: Scarab on Mon 07/06/2010 07:12:10
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sun 06/06/2010 22:44:56
Dualnames, Stupot, etc, call me stupid, but I honestly do not see the reason to fill this thread with nonsense. In fact, I find this teribbly annoying. Even more annoying than icey games' bad grammar.
Isn't what you do a violation of forum rules on its own?
I think this is just a matter of giving up on the kid.
And I'm not sure it would be the worst idea for others in the forum who are fed up to do the same.
I was just having fun and enjoying the rare opportunity to post something completely random. Personally, I hope icey works out. Remember when FlukeBlake was at his flukeblake-iest? And he turned out just fine. Once icey grows up a bit (and settles down a lot), I hope his enthusiasm will be a real asset to the AGS community.
In the mean time, however... Well, he can be a bit much sometimes (or most of the time), I'll admit. But I have hope. :)
- Ponch
Quote from: vertigoaddict on Mon 07/06/2010 00:22:53
Well I guess when someone says the moon is smaller than an elephant then we're all doomed.
But...but the moon is so tiny, and elephants are so very, very large.
Quote from: Ponch on Mon 07/06/2010 07:26:31
Quote from: Scarab on Mon 07/06/2010 07:12:10
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sun 06/06/2010 22:44:56
Dualnames, Stupot, etc, call me stupid, but I honestly do not see the reason to fill this thread with nonsense. In fact, I find this teribbly annoying. Even more annoying than icey games' bad grammar.
Isn't what you do a violation of forum rules on its own?
I think this is just a matter of giving up on the kid.
And I'm not sure it would be the worst idea for others in the forum who are fed up to do the same.
I was just having fun and enjoying the rare opportunity to post something completely random. Personally, I hope icey works out. Remember when FlukeBlake was at his flukeblake-iest? And he turned out just fine. Once icey grows up a bit (and settles down a lot), I hope his enthusiasm will be a real asset to the AGS community.
Yes... icey reminded me of fluke as well... Oh boy...
I mean I was a n00b when I came here, but not like this... yikes! :O
Quote from: icey games on Mon 07/06/2010 00:15:10
why would it make you a n00b.I MEAN I'M ONLY 15 ALL/MOST OF US TEENS TYPE LIKE THAT.I didn't really start till I started using AIM on my phone
1. Don't quote unless it makes sense. You've quoted the entire, lengthy post immediately above yours. Don't you realize how utterly pointless this is? However, there are some grown-ups here who also do this, and it's not your worst offense. Just stop it. THINK before you quote.
2. Stop posting from your phone.
3. You seem to be genuinely interested in why you keep getting mocked. But you don't seem to get it when we tell you or are simply to lazy to put some effort into your posts. Other teens posting like that isn't an excuse. It's the simple matter of the golden rule; you wouldn't like to "decrypt" our posts first, right? Why make us do it? Show us that you don't have the IQ of a bean bag and PUT SOME FUCKING EFFORT INTO YOUR POSTS.
For people that want to come here and ignore me then pile random stuff on the topic why bother its just gonna get it locked.It wasn't stupid it really just a question.
Oh, and I'm sorry but I gotta stay "Hip" to the topic or else when I come home I'll have (5+) reply's build-ed up so i'm gonna keep using my sidekick cause whats the point of paying for the web if I cant use it cause someone else so? so until you pay for my bill I'm gonna keep using what I pay for with my money. All I got to do is pay attention to how words are placed in the text box
As ppl abav sayed, u shud tryto maek ur post read-ible.2 coz it was hard to ridit coz u heve to sqint(?)
End when u make posts in yur cell mobil phoune coz u hav taht t.9 and itwill makeur post better. For ppl to read.
Exactly what Jim said.
I don't even really bother to read your posts cause most of the time I can't really get a grip on what you're trying to say.
Quick question, do you actually have internet access on your PC? Assuming yes: Please, PLEASE stop posting from your phone. itjutsmksurpstscompltlyunredabel.
Quote from: vertigoaddict on Mon 07/06/2010 00:22:53
"I'M ONLY 15 ALL/MOST OF US TEENS TYPE LIKE THAT"
The point is you're not meant to. Honestly I've noticed that the people in my university act like kinder gardeners sometimes...okay, most of the time. (age range 18-23)
Hey, vertigoaddict, I'd rather have a kinder gardener than a nastier one, but it's just those kindergartners I can't stand ;) Muphry's law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law) strikes again (yep, that's Muphry's, not Murphy's).
Quote from: icey games on Mon 07/06/2010 12:11:07
For people that want to come here and ignore me then pile random stuff on the topic why bother its just gonna get it locked.It wasn't stupid it really just a question.
Oh, and I'm sorry but I gotta stay "Hip" to the topic or else when I come home I'll have (5+) reply's build-ed up so i'm gonna keep using my sidekick cause whats the point of paying for the web if I cant use it cause someone else so? so until you pay for my bill I'm gonna keep using what I pay for with my money. All I got to do is pay attention to how words are placed in the text box
Icey games - good, this is
much more readable. You just need to pay a little more attention to how you write, as you say, and then others will pay more attention to what you write. Personally, I think it's OK to submit messages from a phone provided you make the extra effort necessary to ensure they are understandable.
Problem solved?
new to this,transfred from ags (http://forum.dead-code.org/index.php?topic=4339.0)
Also it'd be nice if you stopped with all the random abbreviations for your so called games, or just stopped talking completely about those crappy training games you keep smearing over our database. You're young and your posts show you lack social skills to be participating on a forum like this. Quiet up and grow up, and you won't be fighting a barrage of dislike. The first task is to sharpen up your writing skills if you want to participate on the forum, and you managed that in your last post. Your second task is to stop posting training games on the database & stop using abbreviations for said games like we're all supposed to know what you're on about. Then in time, perhaps you too will be taken more seriously. Good luck.
Quote from: paolo
Personally, I think it's OK to submit messages from a phone provided you make the extra effort necessary to ensure they are understandable.
Indeed. If you want to post from a mobile often, look into getting a phone with a QWERTY keyboard. I post from my Nokia E63 all the time, and they're indistinguishable from my PC posts. :)
Quote from: Stupot on Sun 06/06/2010 16:31:31
It's the same with crisps... for example all brands of 'Roast Chicken' flavour crisps all have that familiar Roast Chicken 'Flavour' going on, but in no way do they taste anything remotely like Roast Chicken.
I've allways wondered why people would want their crisps to taste like other food..
Like potato chips is easily enjoyed with several meals, so why make it taste the same as your meal?
Quote from: abstauber on Mon 07/06/2010 13:26:57
Problem solved?
new to this,transfred from ags (http://forum.dead-code.org/index.php?topic=4339.0)
Oh, those poor people. Think somebody should warn them?
And from the posting page (with emphasis):
Quote from: posting pageThree golden rules:
1. Is your post interesting, helpful or funny? If not, don't post it.
2. Post in a mature manner. Remember, the minimum age here is 16 - if you're unable to act that age, don't post.
3. If you're not a moderator, don't pretend to be one. If a thread needs to be moved or locked, the moderators will deal with it.
I just love a good icey thread, don't you?
Quote from: icey games on Mon 07/06/2010 00:15:10
I MEAN I'M ONLY 15 ALL/MOST OF US TEENS TYPE LIKE THAT.
This is untrue. I've never used it as an excuse and [seem] to get on well with people.
Quote from: icey games on Mon 07/06/2010 00:15:10
why would it make you a n00b.I MEAN I'M ONLY 15 ALL/MOST OF US TEENS TYPE LIKE THAT.I didn't really start till I started using AIM on my phone
15? JEEBUS! I am younger than you and I can behave better! Think about that some time!
...okay, at least I can spell correctly. Somehow...
Quote from: icey games on Mon 07/06/2010 12:11:07
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You're either a troll or a monumental idiot, would you kindly go away and never come back?
Here in Soviet Russia Germany we now say "Scheißi Games".
Quote from: vertigoaddict on Mon 07/06/2010 00:22:53
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Well I guess when someone says the moon is smaller than an elephant then we're all doomed.
Yeah, that was an istant classic.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff91/heisdashmatt/Elephant-Moon.jpg)
It's really like i'm posting on 4chan
Quote from: NsMn on Mon 07/06/2010 17:04:43
Quote from: icey games on Mon 07/06/2010 00:15:10
why would it make you a n00b.I MEAN I'M ONLY 15 ALL/MOST OF US TEENS TYPE LIKE THAT.I didn't really start till I started using AIM on my phone
15? JEEBUS! I am younger than you and I can behave better! Think about that some time!
...okay, at least I can spell correctly. Somehow...
Quote from: AtelierGames on Mon 07/06/2010 16:59:14
Quote from: icey games on Mon 07/06/2010 00:15:10
I MEAN I'M ONLY 15 ALL/MOST OF US TEENS TYPE LIKE THAT.
This is untrue. I've never used it as an excuse and [seem] to get on well with people.
Yes, I'm 15 and if you do act better that is great - A+!you cant put me down cause where to different people & get along differently with people. I start off maybe a bit slower then you with working with people.Also I said ALL/most witch means there is a lot of people around me that do & there are few I know that don't.And-yes I do have internet from 9-3 I have school which means use phone cause the forum is blocked by the Boston public school something, then 3-? PC
Are you black?
Yes, you heard me.. I said it. ;D lmao
Flowers for Algernon. To bad the progriss is so slow here. But it is visible, yes, especially in your last post.
If you look real close =P
You're from Boston? English is your mother tongue? You just blew my mind.
Quote from: icey games on Mon 07/06/2010 21:26:34
you cant put me down cause where to different people & get along differently with people.
This is what everyone is talking about.
For a 15 y/o whose native language is English, you have pretty serious issues with written communication. How can you expect to get on well with people when your posts are incomprehensible?
Thousands of foreign speakers have incredibly refined English when compared to yours.
I would suggest double-checking both your spelling and grammar before posting, as well as adherance to the rules applied here. These two things are essential not only in this community, but in every internet community there is. Unless you understand this, you won't understand the hate storm that you provoke by ignoring it.
He means the band Helme.
Quote from: Dualnames on Mon 07/06/2010 21:59:47
He means the band Helme.
Well I've got more than a feeling that he needs to piss off. Actually, before he changed his location to "the local pup" disregarding the fact that he clearly doesn't know what a pup is, he listed some city in Singapore or something.
Quote from: ddq on Mon 07/06/2010 22:05:00
Quote from: Dualnames on Mon 07/06/2010 21:59:47
He means the band Helme.
Well I've got more than a feeling that he needs to piss off. Actually, before he changed his location to "the local pup" disregarding the fact that he clearly doesn't know what a pup is, he listed some city in Singapore or something.
It's says pub and I said that cause iI really like my games so as "pub master" why not be located at the local which by the way in every game I MAKE there is a pub in but they are all not in the same place.
Actually when it comes to languages (especially English) foreigners kick our arses.
My grammar regularly gets corrected by non-native speakers.
However I have corrected a french guy's french grammar before.. people are lazy with their own language.
Quote from: ddq on Mon 07/06/2010 22:05:00
Well I've got more than a feeling...
Ah, I see what you did there! :)
Quote from: paolo on Mon 07/06/2010 13:25:25
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Hey, vertigoaddict, I'd rather have a kinder gardener than a nastier one, but it's just those kindergartners I can't stand.
Well they mow the lawn every morning for free, but do they have to do it in BULK? At 2 AM in the morning?! I guess everything has it's pros and cons.
Quote from: Helme on Mon 07/06/2010 21:57:45
You're from Boston? English is your mother tongue? You just blew my mind.
Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Mon 07/06/2010 22:39:45
Actually when it comes to languages (especially English) foreigners kick our arses.
My grammar regularly gets corrected by non-native speakers.
However I have corrected a french guy's french grammar before.. people are lazy with their own language.
English isn't even my mother tongue and I speak and write in it better. On the other hand when I speak in Malay to Malaysians, they think I'm Indonesian- 'Kedayan' Bruneians are like the cockney of the British... or are we the Americans? since we do have that spelling with 'O' instead of 'U' thing.
Quote from: icey games on Mon 07/06/2010 21:26:34
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Yes, I'm 15 and if you do act better that is great - A+!you cant put me down cause where to different people & get along differently with people. I start off maybe a bit slower then you with working with people.Also I said ALL/most witch means there is a lot of people around me that do & there are few I know that don't.And-yes I do have internet from 9-3 I have school which means use phone cause the forum is blocked by the Boston public school something, then 3-? PC
You know when I was in high school (high school....hehehe), we'd use like those proxy blocker sites- but I'm not going to encourage delinquency...too much...
Why you always use the "I'm 15 excuse" already many here say that don't matter. you use phone cause forum is block by Boston school public why you use internet school no study-ed I was media student me was at school do research-ing purpose had on forum- okay not time all but coursework ask quiz people many. Icey natty boy need Igleais klass stuie-ed so bitter with garam and spilling. Sebabkan kalau kau tidak belajar dalam sekolah apa jua gunanya? Masalah ke ibubapa jua tu kan?
We didn't start the flame war...it's always been burning since the world's been turning...
Can't we all just put this nonsense behind us and get along? :=
Hey Icey Games, wanna assist me on an AGS project I'm working on? I need a creative consultant, and possibly an artist if that happens to be one of your strong points.
Quote from: HammerBlade on Tue 08/06/2010 03:34:14
We didn't start the flame war...it's always been burning since the world's been turning...
Can't we all just put this nonsense behind us and get along? :=
Hey Icey Games, wanna assist me on an AGS project I'm working on? I need a creative consultant, and possibly an artist if that happens to be one of your strong points.
Sure.I would be happy to help assist you what's the project or game name?
Back in 5th gread we use to use the web proxy site until word got out from one of our traders! + the last I did'nt really under stand but We do a hell of a lot of work in my school but at times I get the chance to check a quick peak a my fourm so I don't get "left behind".
Back in 5th grade I learned what the "Modify" button is for.
Calin: true, but still, it's shameful for a native to talk in a way that no one understands him.
I move to ban icey games from posting for a period of 6 months.
It's only one vote, but that's all I have.
Quote from: Jim Reed on Tue 08/06/2010 09:02:09
I move to ban icey games from posting for a period of 6 months.
It's only one vote, but that's all I have.
Seconded.
Quote from: vertigoaddict on Tue 08/06/2010 02:12:09
Why you always use the "I'm 15 excuse" already many here say that don't matter. you use phone cause forum is block by Boston school public why you use internet school no study-ed I was media student me was at school do research-ing purpose had on forum- okay not time all but coursework ask quiz people many. Icey natty boy need Igleais klass stuie-ed so bitter with garam and spilling. Sebabkan kalau kau tidak belajar dalam sekolah apa jua gunanya? Masalah ke ibubapa jua tu kan?
:D wtf.
No, I had to read through this thread, 5 pages altogether just because it was so popular. Icey-man, if you're not a troll, then it's all cool. It might be, that your way just doesn't suit us yet. We've always been pretty hard and fast about the language used. It's that way because in the end, well written posts are a lot easier to read, and that makes the experience more enjoyable. That is also why there's a fictional age limit. I now people have told you this already. I'm sure most of them don't mean to be mean, they're just pricks :D I know my people. Nevertheless, it's like the academic world: I've read a shitload of essays and researches in my time. But I find myself appreciating them only when they're written well enough for me to comprehend. Once they write like tech. students, I get the feeling, that these people don't even want to sound intelligent. And having to read that and make a study out of it, well, it frustrates and offends. I mean, if you want us to read your text and comment on it, you could at least make an effort. That way we wouldn't feel like we've been screwed...
And lastly, I wouldn't go banning him. One vote against.
Another vote against, for what it's worth. Is icey games acting like a complete dick? No. Is he making an effort to improve his contributions? Yes, otherwise he wouldn't have started this thread. Are some people on this thread being a little nasty towards a newbie struggling to find his way on the forums? Yes, in my opinion.
I don't see any reason for a ban on icey games. Keep an eye on his posts by all means, but a ban because he's having some difficulty with the forum rules seems a bit heavy-handed, especially as he wants to know where he's going wrong and seems genuinely to want to make a useful contribution. If someone told me "Go away and don't come back until you've learned English and the forum posting style" I wouldn't exactly be in a hurry to come back after six months.
I don't think ban's the solution either.
Even though I'm Icey friend,I vote against it cause personily as a friend I see that icey is trying to show that he wants to work with people but needs a little more help with english.but at the same time buddy try not to sound so mean at times.
The forum isn't a democracy, so the voting is only a reflection of my opinion. The moderators ban people, and they follow their rules on who to ban. Voting will not change that.
I can explain my opinion of my vote if anybody is interested, but I rather keep it to myself.
I would say YES regarding a ban. Sure, maybe he is serious about his games - but apparently if he gets criticism, he starts insulting the people around him instead of improving his behaviour. How should that turn out if he releases a real game some day? I wouldn't want another Harg-case here.
Oh, Icey isn't nearly as bad as some others we've had around here. At least he's well intentioned.
Yes, he's breaking the rules by being under the forum's age requirement.
Yes, his English is an embarrassment to the Boston Public School system.
Yes, he completely ignores all advice given to him and can't follow the simplest instructions like not double-posting.
But, c'mon. You know it lightens your day to come into one of his nonsensical threads and be mean to him.
I'm also tempted to ask to work with Icey on a game. But I have to flog myself every time I spend any time on a project other than Resonance, so I won't. Won't someone take on the herculean task of teaming up with Icey and programming a small game with him. Let him design, do all the writing (just copy and paste whatever he sends you right into the game. No editing.), and do art. Stay as far away from design decisions as possible and just see what flows out from that mind.
I think what he needs for now is to read more than write.
Perhaps Vince, icey if you have a game in mind, I might be interested.
Hey icey you could people if they want to help with Pub master quest.2/or 4 I think we can use the help with one of them but I would go pmq.4 for the most help
Hey icey you could ask people if they want to help with Pub master quest.2/or 4. I think we can use the help with one of them but I would go pmq.4 for the most help.
Your double post doesn't even make sense...? You've posted the exact same sentence with some extra punctuation...?
That odd.I couldn't hit the post button so I reloaded the page and pasted the text back in the box didn't see it made two post,odd.
Hum I think I'll go with pmq.4 because as of now I'm getting people to voice the characters.All I need is people on music,SFX,and room/bg art cause the characters I will make but if there are sugestions I'm all ears
Icey games, we're giving you a trial period now. You really really have to
1. Post much less. We know it's hard to be young and restless and to need attention all the time, but we can't babysit you through every single morpheme you're trying to spell out.
2. Read much more. People are very annoyed right now because they are trying to communicate with you and give you useful advice, but you tend to fail to read it.
3. Follow all the rules. This means that before you post, you must be extra careful not to violate any of the - quite few and basic - rules we've set up.
I'm locking this now because attention is like ice-cream, too much will kill you.
And with posting much less, I mean don't go ahead and write a brand new thread to apologize for posting too much, I mean just simply keep the cursor away from the post-button and give us all some rest.