You guys are way over by head...

theatrx · Fri 30/12/2005 06:08:32

I'm about a week out from finishing the game I started. My family and friends have played it for just over a week.Ã,Â It is a short game. I simply wanted to try AGS to see if it would work for the application I wanted it to work... It will.

Thanks to all of you that were so supportive of this new guy that wanted to make this work

Ashen... many...many thanks for all your support.

The game... my game ADWM will be up and running by next weekend.Ã,Â It's a little mushy since I made it for my son and his new bride, Ruth. Still, it's an adventure...

I am a new guy and the whole AGS thing seems exciting... provocative... especially in the uses that I see.

Most people here, when I asked for help were snotty and demeaning... Cool.Ã,Â I guess that's the way it is when a new guy comes into play... sort of like a freshman in high school... Still... I can't learn if you won't teach.Ã,Â Ashen taught!

Again, thanks to Ashen for taking a little extra time to teach.

AGS is important I think in that it teaches cognitive thought in a multidimensional way.Ã,Â How does one get from A to B... in a 'created' world?Ã,Â There are many ways to get there... but which is the right way... which is the way that 'everyone' will understand.

Chris Jones... You're the bong.Ã,Â Thanks for allowing us to play in your incredible world.

My game is a short adventure... maybe a couple hours depending on if you get the whole hieroglyph thing... Hugs to all.Ã,Â Steve

Gilbert · Fri 30/12/2005 06:42:21

Please read the rules about posting in this forum, thank you.

Barbarian · Fri 30/12/2005 07:30:48

(I'll try to sneak this post in before this thread gets moved or locked due to not following posting rules for the "Games in Production" area)

Hi teatrx, welcome fellow adventure-game-fan and aspiring adventure-game-maker.Ã,Â It's always a bit tuff at the beginning when learning a new program such as AGS and becoming familiar with an online community such as this.

I've been into computers and the internet for a long time, and in my experience, this community is about some of the nicest and helpful bunch of people you're gonna find on the internet.Ã,Â But, the thing is, you need to learn to take your time to become familiar with AGS and, importantly, the forum-rules here, then you will find you'll get much more favorable, friendly and helpful replies...

Of course, the nature of the internet being the way it is, with millions of "anonymous" people from all different parts of the world, regardless of where you go, you're bound to run into a few rude people. Don't dwell on that, just smile and keep learning. And, try to take critisisim, good and bad, as a positive to learn and grow from.

I think I didn't really reply to any of your previous posts before as either someone else beat me to it with pertinent information, or it may have been something I didn't have a proper reply for, or perhaps I was being too busy at the time to give a proper reply, and/or a lot of time your posts were breaking some forum rules, and I didn't want to come off acting as a moderator (I try to leave that up to the forum moderators here).

Once you are around for a while, follow forum rules (people like that here), become familiar with AGS (read the manuals, help files, tutorials, use "search" feature on the board instead of re-asking same questions that's been asked before, release a game or two to share with the AGS community, etc..), overall things will get easier and more fun here for you.Ã,Â

Don't give up, and don't get frustrated. We all were a "newbie" at some point. Keep at it, stick around, and I'm sure in time you'll fit in here no problems.

Best regards, and feel welcome to share your adventure gaming creations with us.Ã,Â

Squinky · Fri 30/12/2005 15:55:46

If anyone was rude to you, it was because you stumbled in here with a rude attitude yourself. You posted silly crap in the wrong forums and then verbally attacked anyone who pointed it out to you. Even the name of this post seems to have that same snobby attitude.

Nikolas · Fri 30/12/2005 18:30:15

I think that I agree with Squinky.

And btw, there are a lot of people that are self taught. It can happen to everyone.

I will point out once more that this is a wonderfull community (blah blah, CJ, love blah blah)...

Of course there are rude people and rude posts. But an idea is to check all your previouis posts (which are not that many) and see what you've posted and where. That may give you an idea about the image you gave to us about your self...

I'm very happy that you've almost completed your game. I envy your son! Honestly! And I plan on doing the same for my own son and I understand your feelings completly! Congratulations on that!

And lastly on a more happy note please do hide that avatar of yours. It is very creepy...[/joke]

ManicMatt · Fri 30/12/2005 18:40:36

*Looks at older posts by the guy*

Hmmm.. he calls things and people "bong" a lot.

's about it!

Renal Shutdown · Sun 01/01/2006 04:06:21

Er, what's a "head" in metric format? I know hands converted from imperial measurements, but this one is as confusing as a hundredweight,

Barbie's right. AGS is a very helpful community. The only downside, with being so friendly and helpful all the time, it's not long before some breaks their usual cool and criticises someone for making a post that is in the wrong place, come many times before or is quite frankly daft.

I've been AWOL for a while, and only really caught the whole Business Game malarky, so I'm not going to go on about any past issues. I will say that most of the people in this forum are some of the most tolerant people on the internet, and if you're on the receiving end of their mocking stick, chances are you're the straw that broke the camel's back and then kicked it's shins whilst it was down.

Honestly, the main people here deserve a medal for how nice they are to people, despite how dumb some of those people have been in the past. I've seen communities that start riots over things over the most mundane and innocent of comments. I just hope you, and every other newbie (who won't bother to read this) in the future will take this in to consideration after clicking "reply".

Also, I'm not surprised Ashen helped you out. He's a sweetie, even if he did plagurise my footwear.

Nikolas:
"And I plan on doing the same for my own son.."
You mean you want to marry him off? A tempting offer, but I think I'll pass for now.

esper · Sun 01/01/2006 06:10:13

Y'know...

Bong (bohng) n. "A water pipe that consists of a bottle or a vertical tube partially filled with liquid and a smaller tube ending in a bowl, used often in smoking narcotic substances."

DGMacphee · Sun 01/01/2006 06:41:41

Bong is something cows go.

Pesty · Sun 01/01/2006 10:09:42

Quote from: DGMacphee on Sun 01/01/2006 06:41:41
Bong is something cows go.

Guess what! I've got a fever, and the only perscription... IS MORE COWBELL.

Haddas · Sun 01/01/2006 11:58:53

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Haddas/cowbell.gif

Squinky · Sun 01/01/2006 17:26:44

I just realized that this post is titled "by head" (oddly). I thought it was originally "You guys are way over your head", which is why I made that comment about it being snobby. Woops...

Sam. · Sun 01/01/2006 17:41:46

it would have made more sense your way squink, this way, im just confused.

Its a shame IM not the bong, maybe Id understand then. Ill ask CJ how he got this status.

When i see him, in my dreams....

Ashen · Mon 02/01/2006 15:55:22

Do we really want to know what goes on between you and Chris in your dreams?

'bong' (here at least) I take as 'bomb', as in 'CJ's da bomb'.
Also, until Squinky's post I was reading 'over by head' as 'over my head' - which admittedly doesn't make total sense in context, but scans better than 'your head'.

theatrx:
You're totally welcome, I'm glad I could help. I'll have to check out the finished game when it's out.
Although I can't see why now, when you first posted I found you a bit ... rude - which inclined me not to help out. I think it was just an abruptness, perhaps a slightly demanding tone, and that you posted in GiP when you didn't actually have a game in production

. It was possibly just not knowing your 'style', as it doesn't seem to be there now that I know you're not in fact a pushy little SOB. However, if other people saw it, that might be why you thought you were being treated rudely: they were just replying in kind.
Like Iqu said, repeatedly breaking forum rules and/or being rude and/or just plain stupid (and more importantly refusing to do anything about it) is about the best way to get most folks round here to be less than their usual charming selves. (Not aimed at theatrx - or anyone in particular - just an observation.)
In general though I have to go with the flow here, this is one of the more tolerant and civil communities I've seen.

QuoteAlso, I'm not surprised Ashen helped you out. He's a sweetie, even if he did plagurise my footwear

Aw, shucks.

rharpe · Mon 02/01/2006 18:18:25

Welcome to the AGS Community!

Just some simple advice:

1) Do not mention anything concerning religion! (People here tend to jump all over anyone that expresses their beliefs.)
2) Do not mention anything concerning nudity, immodesty, impurity, indecency, etc. (religion usually comes up.)
3) Do not mention anything concerning morality. (religion usually comes up, also.)
4) If you are to make an opinionated statement, be prepared to defend yourself!
5) Try to stay away from threads you disagree with... If you don't have anything nice to say... don't say it!
6) Don't stereotype. Some people here tend to do this... just stay clear of it.
7) Use tact and be courteous. Mind your manners and be civil. Contribute reviews, previews, games, demos, advice, etc. and you will be honored.

8) Above all, respect everyone here and they will respect you. 8)

The Inquisitive Stranger · Mon 02/01/2006 18:58:59

Quote from: rharpe on Mon 02/01/2006 18:18:25
1) Do not mention anything concerning religion! (People here tend to jump all over anyone that expresses their beliefs.)
2) Do not mention anything concerning nudity, immodesty, impurity, indecency, etc. (religion usually comes up.)
3) Do not mention anything concerning morality. (religion usually comes up, also.)

Why not? What's so terrible about religion?

m0ds · Mon 02/01/2006 19:08:42

You'd be surprised! Us bunch of computer guys have a hard time talking about religion in a controlled & sensible manner without someone getting angry - so no wonder the world is full of wars.

MrColossal · Mon 02/01/2006 19:12:39

I like how that simple little question could be an opening of floodgates into another huge arguement amongst people on what is wrong with religion. Then someone will liken someone to a nazi and it's almost a perfect thread! Hoorah Internets!

Akumayo · Mon 02/01/2006 19:35:06

If I express my religion, I believ I will be called a blasphemer.... by several people.... and, oh, and another peice of advice, DON'T mention your political stance! (Especially if you're a democrat or republican) Just... don't do it okay? If I express my personnal political stance, I don't think too many people would get mad, but some would... maybe... now I'm curious.... I'm a Communist!

ManicMatt · Mon 02/01/2006 20:03:32

Okay lets all label oursleves woohoo! I'm agnostic!

MrColossal · Mon 02/01/2006 20:06:08

I'm colossal.

Akumayo · Mon 02/01/2006 20:09:42

And WHY NOT throw in religion while we're at it! Ã,Â I wonder if anyone will be angry? Ã,Â Who cares!

I, Aelte Akumayo, am a Communist Christian (an unlabeled branch of Crhistianity mind you, not the usual) that believes in rank using the Elemental Divinity system, thinks that System of a Down is the single best band of this century and last, that the Gregorian Chants are indeed good to listen to, and that every religion in the world except Satanism (and other purposfully dark arts) worship the same divine being!

Anyone angry yet? Ã,Â I've got more Ã,Â

-Regards, Aelte Akumayo

Paper Carnival · Mon 02/01/2006 21:15:32

Hm..

I'm a Christian who believes that you don't have to be a Christian to go to heaven (yeah I'm aware of those verses and everything) - but being a Christian is the only certain way. Also I'm not really sure about evolution vs creation but I lean on evolution - however it just has a too many gaps that can be easily filled if we say that God was controlling the whole evolution process to create the world (I got so flamed on christian forums for saying that). Metal kicks poopcasters, 80% of everything else blows. Kerry is more evil than Bush, but Bush is evil too.

How many points do I get?

Akumayo · Mon 02/01/2006 21:22:00

17 out of 20 points.Ã,Â I agree with the evolution theory in that the birth of the first organism was in God's hands, and the change from ape to man was God's hands as well.Ã,Â Other than that, I think evolution worked itself out... Oh, and all president's are evil. (not Nadar... he's not a president)

Paper Carnival · Mon 02/01/2006 21:35:45

17/20, not bad, not bad.

I forgot to add that I dislike Christians who think drinking alchohol is sinful, or mindsets that force you to listen to only christian music and nothing secular... and extreme legalism in general. I believe that if Jesus visited my house he'd have no problem drinking a couple of beers with me while listening to the Blind Guardian cd Santa Claus brought me. And Jesus is a metalhead.

Akumayo · Mon 02/01/2006 21:43:03

20/20

ildu · Mon 02/01/2006 21:56:27

This is exactly why people shouldn't talk about religion or political stance. Threads get hijacked and crapped on, and nobody ever gets any wiser.

Akumayo · Mon 02/01/2006 22:03:53

Ya! I accomplished my original objective! Someone disagreed with my actions! And besides, this topic really wasn't about much of anything in the first place. Ethics? Who needs em?

ManicMatt · Mon 02/01/2006 22:04:08

Quote from: rharpe on Mon 02/01/2006 18:18:25
Welcome to the AGS Community!

Just some simple advice:

1) Do not mention anything concerning religion! (People here tend to jump all over anyone that expresses their beliefs.)

Well... they kind of ignored their own advice by mentioning religion. Although it did prove a point!

Elliott Hird · Mon 02/01/2006 22:25:43

That... was... the point, I think.

The Inquisitive Stranger · Mon 02/01/2006 23:55:07

Quote from: Guybrush Peepwood on Mon 02/01/2006 21:35:45
I forgot to add that I dislike Christians who think drinking alchohol is sinful

How 'bout a non-Christian who thinks drinking alcohol is sinful?

Ashen · Tue 03/01/2006 00:16:35

Well, they're just being silly.

However, we're drifting away from theatrx's original point. Which was: I'm great.

Nikolas · Tue 03/01/2006 07:49:09

And let's not forget, Ashen: You are also FUNKY!

btw, in orthodox church with the holy communion we get to drink a little wine (Christs blood). I seriously doubt that it is alcohol free!

And just a generall observation: I hate it when people start an opiniated thread and then never come back to it, when it's obvious that they should...

Elliott Hird · Tue 03/01/2006 09:53:34

Psst, mods. Rename this "Religion Flame Fest" and delete the first post...

(no, i'm not acting like a moderator, i'm JOKING)

Sam. · Tue 03/01/2006 13:29:11

you're not joking, you're just a nazi.

rharpe · Tue 03/01/2006 15:03:32

...

see what I mean!

...

big brother · Tue 03/01/2006 15:54:02

Wow, I can't believe I wasted precious seconds of my life reading this AND replying! Talk about a thread devoid of any worthwhile content.

Recap:
Someone posts: AGS is exciting.
Someone else posts: Some stupid advice I ignore myself.
Someone else posts: I am a massive tool.
Other people: Me too.

Stop, please. Before it digresses into another internet smiley war. Locking this thread would be a mercy killing.

SSH · Tue 03/01/2006 16:12:18

Which of those categories does your own post come under, BB?

Helm · Tue 03/01/2006 21:04:35

I am not wearing any pants

ManicMatt · Tue 03/01/2006 21:08:01

Quote from: Helm on Tue 03/01/2006 21:04:35
I am not wearing any pants

This guy always cracks me up!

By pants, in the american or british sense? I'm REALLY interested in knowing!

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Tue 03/01/2006 22:02:15

Quote from: ManicMatt on Tue 03/01/2006 21:08:01
Quote from: Helm on Tue 03/01/2006 21:04:35
I am not wearing any pants
By pants, in the american or british sense? I'm REALLY interested in knowing!

Helm is greek...

Mr Jake · Tue 03/01/2006 23:54:44

Does that matter? unless pants mean something different than in American/English.

Squinky · Wed 04/01/2006 00:58:29

Quote from: SSH on Tue 03/01/2006 16:12:18
Which of those categories does your own post come under, BB?

Recap:
Someone posts: AGS is exciting.
Someone else posts: Some stupid advice I ignore myself.
Someone else posts: I am a massive tool.
Other people: Me too.
BB Posts: Hypocritcal snobbish nonsense.

Andail · Wed 04/01/2006 01:08:15

What time is it? It's Lock O'Clock

You guys are way over by head...

m0ds