your opinion on Roswell UFO crash

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lo_res_man

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Atlantis was just probably a krackitoa type disaster that may have happened on some island in the Mediterranean. Impressive, but it boggles my mind how we just go on and on about all these myths about it. If you want to look at a culture that appears to pop out of nowhere with technology higher in some ways then the romans,then look at the Hindus valley civilisation, now they are cool
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Quotehindus valley civilization

Haha, awesome misspelling.
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Nacho

Quote from: lo_res_man on Mon 06/08/2007 22:35:03
Atlantis was just probably a krackitoa type disaster that may have happened on some island in the Mediterranean.

Which are your evidences? Plato says it was in the Atlantic, sunk 9,000 years ago and was higher than the North of Africa. Plato was very specific about the size, the location, the shape....

If you start to cross words on Plato' s decription in this way: "Ok... we will move the continent to this Sea, remove the elephants and the bulls... Change the red colour of the bricks that Plato depicts into marble stones... Change the channels and the inner circles into "a cicle shaped island", and then move it 6,000 years forward, and change "sinking" into "volcano eruption"and blah, blah, blah", then, you' ll probably reach to the conclussion that Atlantis was Santorini, Sicily or Crete, or something like that.

That theory might amuse you and make you look like a smart ass in front of a group of uninformed fellas, but... the theory is still stupid.

If we do that (change man into "woman" change "french" to "Egyptian", change "XVIII Century" to "I Century B.C.") we might also reach to the conclussion that Napoleon was actually Cleopatra. Does that look scientific of historically accurated to you? Please, be informed a bit beofre typic no senses.
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lo_res_man

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoahttp://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/frequent_questions/grp7/asia/question879.htmlI'm not saying whatever Atlantis had wasn't a great civilisation. it most likely was. Its when you get into the space travel and magic and alien astronauts it gets weird

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Stupot

I thought Atlantis was a Canadian singer/songwriter with a penchant for all things ironic.

Nacho

Lo_res_man, I know what Krakatoa was... I was asking for evidences that Atlantis was a  mediterranian civilization destroyed by a volcano.
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lo_res_man

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/08/060823-thera-volcano.html
This is conjecture but it damn well seems like it could fit, heck even FoA thought it was Thera
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Nacho

So, your sources to tell that Atlantis existed (let' s remember, a Continent that sunk in the middle of the Atlantic, with the size of north of Africa, with channels and successive rings, with high buildings constructed with red bricks by a 9000 years old civilization, with Elephants and bulls) are a National Geographic article saying "Atlantis" (notice the " ") and a videogame?

Amazing...

There are some problems... Santorini eruption was 3,600 ago. The Atlantida SUNK 9,000 years ago. Santorini, if I am not mistaken, is a tad smaller than the north of Africa. Santorini never had elephants, or buildings made with red bricks. The only coincidence is that it exploted near in space and time with Plato's birthplace. Is that an "evidence" for you? You will be a great scientist or historian...  :P

Google Plato's  dialogues (Timeaus and Chritias) and read them carefully. When you do that, come back to go on with a serious debate (if you still believe in that crap)
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lo_res_man

All I am saying is there is that there must be a rational explanation for the Atlantis myths, not the magic and aliens that seem to be favored by some.  Admittedly thera may not be the right volcano, what I am saying is that is a much more likely cause then pissed off gods. As well Can you not allow for exaggeration on or tie-source distortion. Most don't expect the bible to be hundred percent accurate historical source, yet its events are claimed to have happened quite a bit later, plus we have many more extent copies, why should Plato be treated any differently?
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QuoteAll I am saying is there is that there must be a rational explanation for the Atlantis myths

Like that it was made-up?

QuoteMost don't expect the bible to be hundred percent accurate historical source

Yeah, some of us think a lot of it was made-up.
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lo_res_man

Okay, But people thought King Minos was a myth tell they found the Minoan Civilisation on Crete, the PREASANT absence of evidence does not conclusively prove  evidence of absence . We can't know everything. 
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First of all, if you're going to cite a legend that turned out to be a reality despite lots of people saying it was just made-up. . . Troy would probably be a better choice.

Second, no, absence of proof is not proof of absence. But it's not proof of existence, either, and when there's nothing either way I prefer to think that there is not an invisible pink unicorn standing next to me. (Occam's Razor. Heard of it?)
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lo_res_man

I agree with that, I'm just saying we should keep looking, who knows? That's basically what I am saying, "Who, Knows?" Okay yes, Troy is an excellent example, Thank-you for bringing it up. I am not saying its real, I am just saying we should still search. That's all.
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Honestly, I think the sky above you is a hologram created by the government to cover two things:
1) The moon has been destroyed.
2) The Earth is surrounded by innumerable alien battlecruisers who don't know that we exist, and if we were to be revealed, even for a fraction of a second, we would be instantaneously vaporized by hundreds of thousands of laser beams and explosives.

Please, everyone, just trust the government like you trust my avatar.
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space boy

Conspiracy theories are really funny. Tons of them out there, not a single one supported by evidence. All they have is out of this world claims and phrases like "open your eyes!!! you are a tool of the government!!!". Ever been on a conspiracy theory site? They like to put their key phrases in huge colorful letters, like they wanna get sure your brainwashed mind won't miss the truth. Anybody who's reasonably intelligent will notice that those sites are just collections of fallacies. People who go along with those theories are out of touch with reality.

Which reminds me, recently someone on this forum claimed the US government was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. I asked for evidence but havent gotten any. The government must be preventing him from showing the truth. <.<

radiowaves

Atlantis was only mentioned once and that was by Platos father... So it might aswell not exist, or it could be a metaphor.

Space boy, if you take up some books, you would see that actually there is some hard evidence. those amateur websites run by youngsters are bullshit.
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space boy

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Quote from: radiowaves on Wed 08/08/2007 10:40:02
Space boy, if you take up some books, you would see that actually there is some hard evidence. those amateur websites run by youngsters are bullshit.

Could you tell me which books i should look for?

vict0r

Obviously not! The goverment has stolen them :o

Nacho

Quote from: space boy on Wed 08/08/2007 11:12:20
Quote from: radiowaves on Wed 08/08/2007 10:40:02
Space boy, if you take up some books, you would see that actually there is some hard evidence. those amateur websites run by youngsters are bullshit.

Could you tell me which books is should look for?

Maybe "The great imposture", where says that the US government hijacked a plane, and then, in spite of crashing that very plane or crash an identical one to the Pentagon, makes it vanish (Where? maybe landing in area 51 and killing all the passangers) and launches a missile?  ;D

It's so stupid that it needs no further comment...  :P
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