Adventures of the black hawk

Monsieur OUXX · Thu 15/02/2024 18:05:38

I'm stuck when

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Saint Cove needs to find some food to give to Olivier's dog

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I don't know what to do because

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there's food laying around literally EVERYWHERE in the game, there's even a dining room and so on, but Saint Cove adamantly refuses to pick up any of it, in pure point-n-click fashion.

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I think that the solution might be that

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I'd need to enter the tavern's kitchen, and to do so I need to distract the owner by recovering the grog's recipe. He mentioned that a woman stole it but I can't remember any other clue about it or where to go to find that woman, and unfortunately the dialogs can't be repeated.

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croquetasesina · Sat 17/02/2024 19:45:16

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Stray dogs eat leftover food... You should be able to find some in the tavern, although you might not be able to get them so easily

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I hope it helps

The_Unknown · Sun 18/02/2024 15:53:39

I'm stuck in exactly the same place

croquetasesina · Mon 19/02/2024 10:05:01

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You should look in the tavern... there is a plate of food that...

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Let me know if you are still stuck and I will give you more information.

Monsieur OUXX · Mon 19/02/2024 10:19:21

~~Well there IS some leftovers in the tavern (right-most customer) but when I try to take it, the character says "Hmm... Tempting but no."~~

EDIT: OK found it. Here's a clue:

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In the tavern's main room...

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there is specifically a plate that you think you can't take but if you insist you can take. I'm not sure what triggers the possibility of taking it.

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The_Unknown · Mon 19/02/2024 13:29:28

That worked, hooray!

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I think perhaps when you take it the moment he looks away he doesn't see it

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splat44 · Mon 19/02/2024 23:48:40

I just found out on trigger:

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Be sure you spoke with Oliver about getting treat for his dog. Time to take food from man is when he drinking. We talking about men near poster

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Quote from: Monsieur OUXX on Mon 19/02/2024 10:19:21~~Well there IS some leftovers in the tavern (right-most customer) but when I try to take it, the character says "Hmm... Tempting but no."~~

EDIT: OK found it. Here's a clue:
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there is specifically a plate that you think you can't take but if you insist you can take. I'm not sure what triggers the possibility of taking it.
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Monsieur OUXX · Tue 20/02/2024 19:25:26

New issue :
It's about Violette, or the priest, or both.

About Violette:

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Violette has disappeared. Someone has seen her:
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My chamber maid has told me that she has come earlier but I wasn't there. I guess she went looking for me or she was kidnapped, no idea. I spoke to every other NPC but no one has her as a topic of conversation.
I don't know what to do from there. My only other line of puzzles currently open are: the priest, and the grog recipe.

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About the priest:

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I've managed to find him and he has asked for...

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He wants a large donation to breach confession secrets AND 5,000 francs for the wedding. No idea what to do from there.
My personal theory:

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That will be for later. Maybe there will be some charity thing at the palace, or maybe I'll find some treasure, whatever. The thing that preoccupies me is that I wonder if the confession bit is the key to finding Violette.

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splat44 · Wed 21/02/2024 02:58:40

I suspect some inventories is missing, what do you have so far?

Quote from: Monsieur OUXX on Tue 20/02/2024 19:25:26New issue :
It's about Violette, or the priest, or both.

About Violette:
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Violette has disappeared. Someone has seen her:
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My chamber maid has told me that she has come earlier but I wasn't there. I guess she went looking for me or she was kidnapped, no idea. I spoke to every other NPC but no one has her as a topic of conversation.
I don't know what to do from there. My only other line of puzzles currently open are: the priest, and the grog recipe.
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About the priest:
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I've managed to find him and he has asked for...
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He wants a large donation to breach confession secrets AND 5,000 francs for the wedding. No idea what to do from there.
My personal theory:
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That will be for later. Maybe there will be some charity thing at the palace, or maybe I'll find some treasure, whatever. The thing that preoccupies me is that I wonder if the confession bit is the key to finding Violette.
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Monsieur OUXX · Wed 21/02/2024 06:56:54

Quote from: splat44 on Wed 21/02/2024 02:58:40I suspect some inventories is missing, what do you have so far?

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Cut lemon
Yellow dye
Sword
Scissors
Corkscrew
Black hawk clothes
Fancy clothes
Rag
Crowbar
String ("rope")

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About the lemon...

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I thought I could use it to reveal a secret message written in invisible ink, but I didn't find any piece of paper anywhere

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About potential search places...

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Saint Cove says the invite to the party (or some important letter, I can't remember) is somewhere in his room but I have haven't found it.

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Monsieur OUXX · Wed 21/02/2024 08:21:34

Quote from: splat44 on Wed 21/02/2024 02:58:40I suspect some inventories is missing, what do you have so far?

Oh come on that is NOT okay!

(read spoiler below)
About Saint Cove's bedroom and his sentence "I have a letter somewhere but I don't remember where":

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It's hidden in an obvious place for any point n click lover, EXCEPT...

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It doesn't work if you PULL the painting. Only if you OPEN the painting.
That doesn't make any sense. It's just sloppy. It makes me paranoid for the rest of the game (for example: from now on I will always click "give" AND "use" when I want to try an object on characters, just in case! Now I will always "use object 1 on object 2" AND "use object 2 on object 1", just in case! And so on and so on)

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splat44 · Wed 21/02/2024 16:27:20

It may not sense but think of scenario:

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Painting is common place to hide safe and trying using "open" makes sense, I hope you looked inside?

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Quote from: Monsieur OUXX on Wed 21/02/2024 08:21:34
Quote from: splat44 on Wed 21/02/2024 02:58:40I suspect some inventories is missing, what do you have so far?

Oh come on that is NOT okay! (read spoiler below)
About Saint Cove's bedroom and his sentence "I have a letter somewhere but I don't remember where":
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It's hidden in an obvious place for any point n click lover, EXCEPT...
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It doesn't work if you PULL the painting. Only if you OPEN the painting.
That doesn't make any sense. It's just sloppy. It makes me paranoid for the rest of the game (for example: from now on I will always click "give" AND "use" when I want to try an object on characters, just in case! Now I will always "use object 1 on object 2" AND "use object 2 on object 1", just in case! And so on and so on)
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The_Unknown · Thu 22/02/2024 10:01:35

Ok I was majorly stuck again but not anymore

Biggeste problem was:

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God knows how many times I hovered/looked at/tried to pick up the pitchfork and shovel standing against the stable. I did NOT see the crowbar at all. It's really pixelated so it looked like it was part of the planks of the stable.

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And also the one Monsieur OUXX had trouble with:

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In the black hawk's room I'm pretty sure I PULL'ed the painting as well numerous times until I finally had the idea to try and open them.

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croquetasesina · Thu 22/02/2024 11:00:06

And also the one Monsieur OUXX had trouble with:

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In the black hawk's room I'm pretty sure I PULL'ed the painting as well numerous times until I finally had the idea to try and open them.

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I updated this yesterday, at the suggestion of Monsieur OUXX.

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Now "open" and "pull" work the same way on the portrait.

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Monsieur OUXX · Thu 22/02/2024 13:05:34

Quote from: The_Unknown on Thu 22/02/2024 10:01:35Biggest problem was (pixel hunting)

Yes, there is quite a lot of pixel hunting in the early rooms of the game. It gets better after. I've already suggested to the dev team to reduce and enlarge the clickable areas.
For example, did you notice that after picking up a thing hanging on the wall you can still click on the tiny 3-pixels hook?

I don't know if it's on purpose or if it's just the devs forgetting to make the hook sprite "unclickable"

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I am now stuck in part II, during the marquis' reception.
~~I think I'll manage by myself though, by insisting.~~ EDIT: I give up, I can't find a solution.

Just to share my experience, here is what I've done so far :

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Finding the marquise...

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I've managed to locate her and talk to her. Now she wants me to...

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Identify the paintings behind me. I've found out SOME information by talking to the two noblewomen. I'm still missing some. I'm guessing I'll get more info in another room, as the marquis refuses to talk about his paintings and no one else has this conversation topic.

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Getting access to the forbidden corridor...

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I have half of the solution, in the shape of the written note. I still don't know how to get...

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...the stamp or signature. I strongly hope it's not in the room with the marquise, because if so then I don't know where to begin solving things.

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Overall my biggest problem is that I'm not sure if puzzles line A lets me progress in puzzles line B (e.g. unlocking a new room will get me more info about some other things), or if puzzles line B lets me progress in puzzles line A (e.g. if getting more info will let me unlock a new room), or if they are entirely independent from one another.

croquetasesina · Thu 22/02/2024 21:21:06

Quote from: Monsieur OUXX on Thu 22/02/2024 13:05:34
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Identify the paintings behind me. I've found out SOME information by talking to the two noblewomen. I'm still missing some. I'm guessing I'll get more info in another room, as the marquis refuses to talk about his paintings and no one else has this conversation topic.
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Maybe...

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Have you tried the group of nobles on the right, on the lower floor?

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Monsieur OUXX · Thu 22/02/2024 22:24:19

Quote from: croquetasesina on Thu 22/02/2024 21:21:06Maybe...
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Have you tried the group of nobles on the right, on the lower floor?
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~~Yes, they always say "can't you see you're bothering us here"~~
EDIT: So... Another thing that needs to be addressed in the game!
It seems like every time I've clicked on those people I have randomly always clicked either on the left-hand noble or the right-hand noble? The response is the same either way, and the "you're bothering us" line of dialogue is said by the MIDDLE one. So I naturally assumed that those three characters were just a single clickable area
.... Except, it's not! And clicking on the middle guy gives me a different response now!

Monsieur OUXX · Fri 23/02/2024 11:15:36

I'm curious about something but I'm too lazy to test it myself.
EDIT: I was wrong.

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I wonder if there might be a possibility of a "softlock" in the game.

Early in the game, in the countryside house, you can pick up some

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yellow dye

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Later in the game,

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during the secret meeting you will use that dye for cooking.

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However you cannot go back to the countryside house at this point (the player won't allow it)
What happens if you didn't pick it up?

EDIT: it's not for the grog. No softlock.

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