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Title: Atapi
Post by: david on Fri 19/06/2009 08:29:50
I am stuck at the atapi pendant conversation (mind conversation)
how should i ask, tried: me help, little female help,
only one did a trick: help atapi

pity  i dont understand its language

any help??? ???
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Fri 19/06/2009 10:58:33
The Atapi language is based on English.  You have your verbs and direct objects switched around.  You need to ask questions like "help me" instead of "me help."  Or you could simply try asking "help."  :)

Good luck!
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: david on Fri 19/06/2009 11:08:24
hey thanks
correct why the hell was i asking such a cipple question ?? :-X
silly me  ::)
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Fri 19/06/2009 11:23:47
Quote from: david on Fri 19/06/2009 11:08:24
correct why the hell was i asking such a cipple question ?? :-X

"Me no know."

;)
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: david on Fri 19/06/2009 12:49:24
well, further on... how can i get that maj°s axe?, but please give me just a hint

thanks in advance
8)
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Fri 19/06/2009 12:57:14
Hint 1:  
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You need to gain his trust.  How could you help him?
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Hint 2:  
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Maj is looking for his caravan.  Who could you ask to help you find it?  Someone who can get around, maybe?
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Hint 3:  
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Try talking to the air atapi.  She randomly appears as wind in the grasslands.  If you've paid careful attention, you'll know how to ask where the the caravan is.
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Hint 4:  
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If you haven't talked to her yet, however, the air atapi will try playing a game with you first.  You need to figure out what she expects from you.
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Hint 5:  
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The air atapi is playing a game of opposites with you.  When she says a word, respond with its opposite.
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Hint 6:  
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Finally, ask the air atapi, "plural water mortal."
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: jackalope1984 on Fri 19/06/2009 21:46:32
Stuck on the fire atapi.  
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How do i give him the metal bowl and enchanted stick?
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That is what he wants, right?

Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Fri 19/06/2009 22:13:22
Hint 1:  
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You need to use the metal bowl.  However, you can't use the enchanted stick because Oko wants to use it for something else.  If you can't use wood, you'll have to find the nearest equivalent.
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Hint 2:  
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Have you been in every place in the swamp?  You need something from there.
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Hint 3:  
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Give the atapi the second cattail you found in the swamp.  You can then use it as a torch.
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: EdLoen on Sat 20/06/2009 00:40:47
I think I'm almost done, but...
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I think I have all 6 Atapi enchantments: burning cattail, stick, metal bowl & water in bowl, dirt, and air (since it said it's in your lungs I think I'm correct by assuming the gift not having a representative inventory item); but I can't seem to find any clues on what do do next... other then to find the "big water atapi," which I i can't seem to get any more clues on...hrmm
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Sat 20/06/2009 01:07:47
Hint 1:  
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Talk to some of the atapi about the "big water atapi."  There's one in particular who logically would know more about him than the others.
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Hint 2:  
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Ask the water atapi, "big water atapi."  She'll give you directions.
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Hint 2:  
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After speaking with the water atapi about the big water atapi, travel east three times and interact with the water.
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: EdLoen on Sat 20/06/2009 01:25:40
thanks =)
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I was stringing together "help find big water atapi," but i guess it was too many symbols and I was stuck lol
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Sat 20/06/2009 02:06:23
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Aha!  Well, that's another sentence I need to add. :)
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: TassieDevil on Mon 22/06/2009 00:20:15
You are much further then I am. I am running around in circles. I am missing the weed ingredient, I passed on all the others.
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I polished the bowl and got a second set of kindling. Maybe I should start a fire somewhere? Lost the little girl too after she did the web thing
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Any hints - please! ???
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Mon 22/06/2009 00:36:42
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To get the smartweed, you need to go north of the river.  As for the little girl - you don't expect her to hang around one place forever, do you?  You'll find her again when the time is right. :)  And you won't need any more kindling, believe it or not.
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: Alarconte on Mon 22/06/2009 01:38:49
Maybe is a silly question, but where I can get the cattails?
I have a lot of items (the other 3 items requested by Boma) But thougth swamp is supossed to be full of cattails, I can't get anyone U_U
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Mon 22/06/2009 01:48:18
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Go north of the forest.  That big hotdog-looking thing is one of the cattails.  Then go north and east to find the second cattail.
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: Alarconte on Mon 22/06/2009 01:59:42
Wow, How difficult to find in eyesight.

Thanks!

(And I swear I tried to take one of this cattails time ago xD)
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: on Tue 23/06/2009 11:03:18
How can I get the cobweb. Have spoken to girl but what do I give her to get it?
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Tue 23/06/2009 16:51:33
Hint 1:
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She needs something long to swipe away the cobwebs.
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Hint 2:
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Get the stick from the very first screen you saw in the intro.  Give it to Kiri and take her to the screen with the cobwebs.  Then ask for the stick back and remove the cobweb either by using the cloth on it or using the stick on yourself.
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: Babar on Wed 24/06/2009 14:51:37
I'm still lost on how to find the cattails. There is one portion of the swampy area that says it is 'full of plants and cattails', but I've clicked everywhere there, and don't find it.
Where north? Where east? What hotdog looking thing? :=
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Wed 24/06/2009 17:00:47
(http://www.freewebs.com/luvrayman/screen4.PNG)
(http://www.freewebs.com/luvrayman/screen5.PNG)

Let me know if that helps.
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: Babar on Wed 24/06/2009 18:04:06
Now how did I miss that? :D


Thanks!
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: mdyoung40 on Fri 26/06/2009 16:01:21
i need a walkthrough,think i have all atapi but the air,the air gave it to me it said,but no sign of it.big water atapi says i'm missing an element  when i interact with it.what do you say to the air to find out about the caravan? i need a damn walkthrough.any help would be great,i'm getting dizzy,running in circles.thanks
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: Babar on Fri 26/06/2009 16:28:12
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The magic air isn't an item in the inventory. If the atapi gave it to you, then you've "breathed it in", and you have it. I get the feeling you're missing one of them. Remember, you need earth, wind, fire, water and hea metal
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: mdyoung40 on Fri 26/06/2009 17:23:17
thanks,how do i get the metal? do i need the axe for metal?if so,itried talk9ing to air about caravan,but no luck.what do i do?
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: Babar on Fri 26/06/2009 17:37:28
MoodyBlues' response here (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=38058.msg500331#msg500331) will help you get it.
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: mdyoung40 on Fri 26/06/2009 17:50:49
i did that and it told me 3 times north,which did nothing,all i did was get back to camp,i must be loseing my mind,thanks for the help.you sure are quick,thanksl
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: mdyoung40 on Fri 26/06/2009 17:54:29
i got earth,fire,wood,water,that leaves metal
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: Babar on Fri 26/06/2009 18:03:07
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You don't have to find the caravan, :D, just tell the guy where it is!
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: mdyoung40 on Fri 26/06/2009 18:25:45
i don't know where it is.talked to air for 30 min.and all i get is???.talked to the stone,no luck.talked to the road ,and if it could speak it could tell me.-----where is the caravan?thanks   thanks   
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: Babar on Fri 26/06/2009 18:42:59
Heheh...you wanted to know where the Caravan is, right? Why? Not because you have to go and look for it yourself. You want to know where it is because someone asked for your help. The wind told you where the caravan is, now you have to tell the person who was asking your help. So that they give you the axe.
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: mdyoung40 on Fri 26/06/2009 19:11:35
yea ha ha,so i got the axe,wood, fire,earth,water,big water atapi says i'm still missing element.do i have to get the axe enchanted to?this damn thing is killing me,thanks for helping this case for the nut house.
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Fri 26/06/2009 19:52:31
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Did you try talking to the axe?  If you paid attention to Maj and Oko's conversation, you'd find out that the axe is an atapi.  You need to give the metal bowl to the axe so she can enchant it.[\hide]
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: mdyoung40 on Fri 26/06/2009 21:01:36
yea, i figured it out,got the game finished,one heck of a great game,love that game,wow!!!!!!!!!!kinda blows your mind.      thanks ,thanks,thanks for the help,you were the best.see you around
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: on Fri 26/06/2009 22:53:34
I'm right at the end (but did use one spoiler) and I must be missing something. I have all of the elements and they are all enchanted but still cannot enchant the axe, even with the bowl.  I picked up some more kindling but that doesn't seem to help.  I also tried giving the bowl using the apapi talk through the axe. 

Any help would be appreciated, I've been stumped here for ahem, awhile.

Thanks and I like the theme in this game.
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Fri 26/06/2009 23:05:31
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Did you try using the bowl on the axe?  You need to enchant the bowl, not the axe.
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: on Sat 27/06/2009 15:31:42
I have tried the bowl on the axe both empty and full with both types of water and vice-versa.  Could it have something to do with picking up the kindling again? 

My inventory is: Kindling, enchanted stick, enchanted bowl (with magic water), cat-tail (not enchanted), Atapi stone, axe (not enchanted), enchanted dirt, bloody cloth (not enchanted), enchanted torch.

I thought maybe it had somthing to do with having the extra kindling or the other cat-tail but most likely not.  Maybe I'll start over and avoid picking up the kindling again but maybe not.

I was enjoying the game however, I feel like I've tried everything except for the abovementioned possibility of not picking up the kindling again.  On a good note, I now have learned a new language (Atapi-talk), so something gained there.

Thanks
 
:)
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: mdyoung40 on Sat 27/06/2009 17:53:11
TRY POURING the water out of the bowl first,then try the axe on the bowl
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Sat 27/06/2009 20:38:48
Woah, how can you still have a cattail left and still have a torch?  Please let me know how you managed that.

Hint 1:
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You should have everything you need to continue.  If you've spoken extensively to the atapi - especially the water atapi - you should know what to do next.
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Hint 2:
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Did you ask the water atapi about the big water atapi?
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Hint 3:
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Ask the water atapi, "big water atapi."  Then go east, east, east, and interact with the water.
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: sthomannch on Sat 27/06/2009 20:55:54
This game is beautiful!

I'm stuck
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where do I find earth? Wherever I tried, Oko didn't want to pick it up
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Sat 27/06/2009 21:01:44
Hey, thanks!

Hint 1:
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What makes you think you need earth? ;)  Been reading spoilers, eh?
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Hint 2:
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You need to ask the earth elemental, "help."  Then he'll tell you what you need to know.
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Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: sthomannch on Sat 27/06/2009 21:14:21
Thank you!
I tried "help ME" many times.
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Sat 27/06/2009 21:15:12
Dang!  I thought I added that to the list of acceptable sentences.  My bad!
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: on Sat 27/06/2009 22:44:31
Thanks, I am a fool.  I had done everything except for interacting with the water-oops.  I made it to :the other side' and back and then when I went back to Kiri to have her follow me through the forest, the came cut-off.   Is this the ending, or did I have a download problem?  As for the cat-tail and the torch, I am not quite certain how I managed that, (there were 2 you could pick if I recollect correctly.  Needless to say it's in my inventory somehow.  Please let me know if the game ends abruptly at the tent after visiting the godess or if I had a problem when downloading.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Atapi
Post by: MoodyBlues on Sat 27/06/2009 23:20:03
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You don't need to have Kiri follow you through the forest after she gets sick.  Did the game crash when you tried to ask her to follow you again? 

It seems like you've discovered a bug.  Could you PM me with what you did exactly to get the game to end too soon?

If you want the actual ending, you'll need to do something different.  Take the vial, give it to the air atapi, and watch the show.
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Thanks!  Let me know if that works out or if you need more help. :)