Ben Jordan: Case 7

[Mike S.]

And only an hour or so after release, and a help topic is up. Let's start with one question that some people who are not-so-good at adventure games might have... including me.

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I'm stuck in the first room. I'm exhausted every option, talked to the picture, tried to go out the door, touched the boot... nothing.

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[SSH]

Try everything again... perhaps you'll see something has changed

[Mike S.]

I'm sorry, but I really can't find anything that has changed. Does something trigger an event? (i'm pathetic)

[nihilyst]

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I also didn't notice it rightaway, but you have to look at the wound on the neck of your grandfather in the photograph.

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[Mike S.]

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I also didn't notice it rightaway, but you have to look at the wound on the neck of your grandfather in the photograph.

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Ah. Damn crappy monitor...

[Reaper]

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Is there any hint for opening the strange object in Bianchi's appartment? I have looked at the buttons, but no idea which to push

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[motukutonga]

How do I get into Bianchi's apartment?  I questioned everybody.

[Weezygirl]

How do I get into Bianchi's apartment?  I questioned everybody.

Look again at all your inventory.

[Mike S.]

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I've exhausted every option with the Cardinal in confession. The suicide note is turned over to the faded drawing. Is there a way to get into Bianchi's office from here, or is there another thing I have to do?

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[Vorlayn]

Lovely game, but I'm stuck.

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I'm in Bianchi's apartment, but he's looking at me and I can't do anything. Also, in his office there is a box where something hexagonal has to go into, can I get that open yet?

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[Scienceman123]

Mike S:

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Record a confession and play it back, then leave and explore.

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[Weezygirl]

Lovely game, but I'm stuck.

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I'm in Bianchi's apartment, but he's looking at me and I can't do anything. Also, in his office there is a box where something hexagonal has to go into, can I get that open yet?

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Talk to your partner in crime.

[Scienceman123]

How do I get into Bianchi's apartment?  I questioned everybody.

Look again at all your inventory.

I'm dead thick. Can I have another hint?

[Weezygirl]

How do I get into Bianchi's apartment?  I questioned everybody.

Look again at all your inventory.

I'm dead thick. Can I have another hint?

Did you go back to the theatre yet?  In the dressing room?

[Mike S.]

Mike S:

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Record a confession and play it back, then leave and explore.

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Wow, thanks! I would have never thought of that.

[Scienceman123]

Ah, thanks!

Also, how do you open the box in Bianchi's apartment?

EDIT: Oops, got it.

[Weezygirl]

Ah, thanks!

Also, how do you open the box in Bianchi's apartment?

That's exactly where I am stuck!  Let me know if you figure it out! 

[Vorlayn]

me too now. ty for the help so far.

[Scienceman123]

Ah, thanks!

Also, how do you open the box in Bianchi's apartment?

That's exactly where I am stuck!  Let me know if you figure it out! 

What does Saint Anthony help you with? What attributes do items on the buttons share?

[Mike S.]

Yeah, I've talked with Alice and she knocks and I try to search the dresser and it still gives me the "can't search with him in the next room" message.

[Weezygirl]

Don't worry about that now... just grab one item so you can come back later....

[Weezygirl]

Ah, thanks!

Also, how do you open the box in Bianchi's apartment?

That's exactly where I am stuck!  Let me know if you figure it out! 

What does Saint Anthony help you with? What attributes do items on the buttons share?

That's what I thought I was doing... can you give me another little hint?

[Scienceman123]

Yeah, I've talked with Alice and she knocks and I try to search the dresser and it still gives me the "can't search with him in the next room" message.

What you want isn't in that room.

[Nimdok]

Nevermind...

[Mike S.]

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I've exactly the same problem as everyone else - how the hell is this puzzle supposed to be solved?

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[jenimad]

Nimdok (puzzle spoilers)-

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As I recall, the buttons I pressed were the Ark of the Covenant, Fountain of Youth, the island in the Atlantic, and the ship on the dune.
If I'm remembering correctly, those are all things that haven't technically been found... I think.  The island I took to be Atlantis and the ship the Lost Galleon

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Now, my question in regards to a note I found on Day 2... (spoilers)-

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I flipped over the suicide note and there's something faint on the back.  How do I make it more visible?

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I finished the game, but I was missing some points... and I think it's because I never figured this out.

[Grundislav]

There are two clues given to solve this puzzle.  One is in the game, the other is in the Paranormal Investigator's Handbook included with the game.

If you want the solution outright:

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Saint Anthony is the patron saint of lost items, therefore the four buttons pressed must be "lost" items. 

The serpent, crown, angel, and church are generic items, so disregard those. 

If you read the P.I. Handbook, it mentions text from the Dead Sea Scrolls, which means they obviously have been found, so eliminate that.  Also, it mentions the Philosopher's Stone was a metaphor and not an actual item, so eliminate that one too. 

This leaves you with the Fountain of Youth, The "Lost" Ark of the Covenant, The "Lost Continent of Atlantis, and the "Lost" Galleon of the Salton Sea.  Press those in any order and the box opens.

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Jenimad:
The solution to this can be found at the police station.

[Vinny]

Ok, I really don't know how to get into his apartment. I've exhausted all of my dialog options with Alice and the speechbox.

Oh, and Grundislav, if you read this, I laughed really hard at "It's a me! The Pope!"

[Vinny]

Sorry, apparently I can't edit my post if I'm a guest. I just figured it out. Sorry.

[peter]

Mike S:

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Record a confession and play it back, then leave and explore.

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Wow, thanks! I would have never thought of that.

How do i record a confession  and how do i get something in the dressing room ??
How do I get into Bianchi's apartment ?

[Jack]

How do I get a good enough reason to break into his apartment?

[bicilotti]

Very end. Cannot solve the last puzzle

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the amulet one.

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Hints?

[Jeffers]

Very end. Cannot solve the last puzzle

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the amulet one.

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Hints?

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Is there anything in the room you haven't examined yet? That's a mighty fine table cloth, dontcha think? why don't you check that out?

There is an inscription underneath the tablecloth. Bianchi will reveal it says something like "do not touch with bare hands". What can we do about that?

Touching the plumber's outfit reveals an opera glove in the pocket. That's useful, ain't it?

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[peter]

Very end. Cannot solve the last puzzle

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the amulet one.

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Hints?

Why not answer our quistions when you are so far

How do i record a confession  and How do i get something in the dressing room ??
How do I get into Bianchi's apartment ?

[bicilotti]

Why not answer our quistions when you are so far

How do i record a confession  and How do i get something in the dressing room ??
How do I get into Bianchi's apartment ?

Fair enough

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Go on the crime scene. You will find something useful there.
You need to show to the opera lady that you're one of the police, why not using the thing you've found? Because the does not depict you! Maybe your friend can help... Show him the item you've acquired!

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[TheJBurger]

How do I get into Bianchi's Apartment? I've

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been into his office and found the symbol and compared it to the one on the back of the suicide note. I've also questioned (I think) everyone about the order of the knights.

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[bicilotti]

How do I get into Bianchi's Apartment?

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The place where he is living needs someone to fix something. A costume may be helpful to disguise yourself...

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[peter]

How do I get into Bianchi's Apartment?

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The place where he is living needs someone to fix something. A costume may be helpful to disguise yourself...

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Thanks i think i m not so far  ?
How do i get in Bianchi's office

[Jussara]

How may I enter in the Biachi's office? - my lat note: St. Anthony of padua; patron saint of lost itens

[xenogia]

Yeah Im trying also, cant seem to open any of the doors cause he doesn't know which room it is.

[xenogia]

Don't worry figured it out.. doh

[to lazy to lohin]

lol where so i put the plumer suit on

[xenogia]

inside the apartment building after you have been buzzed up.

[xenogia]

I am tied up what do I do, I am right at the end of the game?

[chuck4o]

I've just finished the game I'm a little dissapointed because it was easier than the sixth part :)But I like the way that it ends!!!I cant wait for Ben Jordan 8!!!

[peter]

Don't worry figured it out.. doh

Why do people tell "i did it" and not tell how for other that has the same problem

how did you get in Biachi's office ?
I have the recorder and showed the symbol to all.
I just walk around and can't do anything -  the cardinal don't go ??

[olafmoriarty]

how did you get in Biachi's office

First time you need to enter Bianchi's office:

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Ask the cardinal to give a confession.
Before confessing, put tape recorder (from actors' wardrobe) on shelf in confession stand.
Press "record".
Confess to something.
Ask the cardinal to give another confession.
Press play, and leave while he's listening.
Read the nametags next to the doors to find out which office is Bianchi's.

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Second time you need to enter Bianchi's office:

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Talk to Simon and Alice. Have them do performance art for the guard. I suggest trying all other options first, though, they're hilarious.

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EDIT: Ah, at that point of the game, you just need the first one.

I am tied up what do I do, I am right at the end of the game?

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Use loose ring on barrel to cut your ropes

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[Jussara]

First time you need to enter Bianchi's office:

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Ask the cardinal to give a confession.

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How?!

[olafmoriarty]

How?!

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I got the option "Confession" when I used the dialogue on him after seeing the confession stand. I assumed it was enough to have seen the confession stand (off the screen to the right from where the Cardinal is standing) to get that response, but maybe you also have to enter it and perhaps even try talking to the grate to discover that nobody's inside.

Anyhow, if you play around with the confession stand a little (the door is on the right), the option "confession" should appear the next time you use the question mark talk cursor on Cardinal.

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[Technocrat]

So far, so good, but not I'm stuck. I've gotten into Bianchi's apartment and office, and I'm looking for justification to break in. I know it's something to do with the symbol on the suicide note, and the notepad on the desk, but how do I compare the two so it accepts it as evidence?

[Jussara]

Thank you very much, olafmoriarty!  

[nihilyst]

So far, so good, but not I'm stuck. I've gotten into Bianchi's apartment and office, and I'm looking for justification to break in. I know it's something to do with the symbol on the suicide note, and the notepad on the desk, but how do I compare the two so it accepts it as evidence?

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Copying the symbol into your notebook should suffice. Also, you have to talk to the Professor; he'll tell you that the Knights of St. Anthony are up to nothing good.

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[peter]

Thank you very much, olafmoriarty!  

Yes Thanks did not try to walk to the screen

[Caution]

I need a hint on how to grab the amulet. I'm running out of ideas.

[olafmoriarty]

I need a hint on how to grab the amulet. I'm running out of ideas.

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Remember that in the Ben Jordan games, you can "touch"/"feel"/"interact with" your inventory items.

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If you use your hand icon on the plumber's outfit, you find a new item.

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[sam]

can some one plzz tell me how to open that box in that guys house am reli confused

plzzz

[olafmoriarty]

can some one plzz tell me how to open that box in that guys house am reli confused

plzzz

This has been very thorougly explained earlier in this thread.

[Dr. Suzy]

Ok, I really don't know how to get into his apartment. I've exhausted all of my dialog options with Alice and the speechbox.

Oh, and Grundislav, if you read this, I laughed really hard at "It's a me! The Pope!"

Oh lordy i was rolling!
Also when Ben said, "Bianchi.. eats babies!"

[olafmoriarty]

Does anyone have a hint on how to unlock

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confessing about pride?

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[sam]

cant you just tell me on that part plzzzz

its driveing me crazyyyy 

[sam]

cant you just tell me on that part plzzzz

its driveing me crazyyyy 
idk how to open that stuped box!!

[olafmoriarty]

That was why I linked to the solution... But to repeat it:

Vague hint:

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What was St. Anthony a patron of?

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More directly:

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Lost items. So press the buttons that represent lost items.

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Blatant telling-it-straight-out:

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Press these four buttons: The Fountain of Youth, the Ark of the Covenant, the island in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean (Atlantis) and the Galleon of the Salton Sea.

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[sam]

can you just tell me what to click on that box in the right order

plzz

do i click the angel and then the dead sea scrolls and then the pholishas stone

and then click wht ?

just tell me wht to click on the box to open it thats all am asking for

[olafmoriarty]

... uh... But I just told you exactly which buttons to press!

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THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH.
THE ARK OF THE COVENANT.
THE GALLEON.
THE ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ATLANTIC.

No specific order.

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[sam]

ohh ya you did thanks lol

i didt see the hidden words on this website

passed great game cant wait for case 8  

[Valentina]

 :o oh nooo sam was killed

grundislav does have the guts to kill one of the beloved characters eh.

anyway i got stuck after falling to the cellar

what to do down there

[Buckethead]

Valentina, you should use [hide ][ /hide] tags if you are going to give away such spoilers 

anyway, here is a hint:

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Look for something sharp to cut the ropes

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in case you are a little further:

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be generous with the wine in the beg wine keg

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[marko33]

Where's the amulet i've looked all over it's gone!
mark

[Xoneris]

Okay I got into the appartment BUT

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I can't search through anything.  Even when I get my partner to distract the guy, the game keeps telling me that I can't risk being seen.  What am I supposed to do?

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[olafmoriarty]

Where's the amulet i've looked all over it's gone!

What do you mean? Where are you in the game?

The only part of the game where I remember that the amulet matters, it is

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hanging in the hand of Jesus Christ.

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Okay I got into the appartment BUT

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I can't search through anything.  Even when I get my partner to distract the guy, the game keeps telling me that I can't risk being seen.  What am I supposed to do?

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Vague hint:

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You don't have the time to search through drawers or solve strange puzzle boxes. You do, however, have the time to snatch one item while Bianchi is looking the other way.

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Additional semi-vague hint:

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If only you had an item that allowed you to come back here later, when Bianchi wasn't here, you would have the time to go through his stuff more thoroughly.

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Plain solution:

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Get the keys.

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[splat44]

Where's the amulet i've looked all over it's gone!
mark

What do you mean? Where are you in the game?

The only part of the game where I remember that the amulet matters, it is

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hanging in the hand of Jesus Christ.

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if you were able to open secret panel from Biachi's office and look at everything, youy'll end up to where the amulet is

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[Kalu]

I'm stuck in the wine cellar. I have cut the ropes and poured the wine.
WHAT TO DO NEXT?

[olafmoriarty]

Have you tried

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pouring wine more than once? Like, say, three times?

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If you have, and you're just wondering

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how to open the compartment: look at the loose ring on the barrel again. Break off a piece and use it to open the compartment.

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[sholson]

I have the symbol and have talked to the professer about St. Anthony but can't seem  to trigger Simon to come with me to the apartment.  He keeps saying get more evidence.  Would appreciate any help.

[Nostradamus]

How do I get into Bianchi's house?
I went out and returned and the smoking guy is gone. What do I do to enter?

Please give a direct full answer, not hints

[TheJBurger]

How do I get into Bianchi's house?
I went out and returned and the smoking guy is gone. What do I do to enter?

Please give a direct full answer, not hints

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Go back to the theatre and interact with the costume rack. You will get a plumber costume. You will now have the dialog option of pretending to be the plumber when you interact with the voicecom.

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[olafmoriarty]

I have the symbol and have talked to the professer about St. Anthony but can't seem  to trigger Simon to come with me to the apartment.  He keeps saying get more evidence.  Would appreciate any help.

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Go talk to the Irish priest again.

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[Nostradamus]

OK I entered Bianchi's house but seems like there's nothing I can do here. What's my next move?

Please give a full direct answer, not hints

[Mr. Mozzarella]

OK I entered Bianchi's house but seems like there's nothing I can do here. What's my next move?

Please give a full direct answer, not hints

If you entered the house with Alice ...

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talk to her and make a plan.


Put on the plumber suit.


Knock.

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If you already have the keys ...

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enter the bedroom, look at the object on the dresser.

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[Iv4n]

I'm stuck.

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I've entered Bianchi's apartment once. Now all the items I've got are the keys, the glove, the costume and the note with faint image on it. Unfortunately I'm unable to enter the apartment for a second time. There's no option for taking Alice with me either. I've talked to everyone. What to do? Where can I find more evidences for breaking into the apartment?

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[olafmoriarty]

I'm stuck.

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I've entered Bianchi's apartment once. Now all the items I've got are the keys, the glove, the costume and the note with faint image on it. Unfortunately I'm unable to enter the apartment for a second time. There's no option for taking Alice with me either. I've talked to everyone. What to do? Where can I find more evidences for breaking into the apartment?

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In Bianchi's office, use your notebook on Bianchi's notebook. You get a symbol.

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If you want hints on what to do with it, read on:

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Show the symbol to Percy.

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After that,

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You need to talk to people about the Knights of St. Anthony, specifically, you HAVE to talk with Father McNamara about them.

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On another note: I asked a few pages ago, but nobody has answered me yet, so I ask again...

About the cardinal sins you're able to confess to in the confession stand, can anyone tell me how to unlock pride?

[Nostradamus]

OK I entered Bianchi's house but seems like there's nothing I can do here. What's my next move?

Please give a full direct answer, not hints

If you entered the house with Alice ...

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talk to her and make a plan.


Put on the plumber suit.


Knock.

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If you already have the keys ...

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enter the bedroom, look at the object on the dresser.

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I did all that and am stuck now. Can't do anything else. What do I do next?

Please give a full direct answer, not hints

[olafmoriarty]

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On the item standing on the dresser, press the following buttons: The Fountain of Youth. The Ark of the Covenant. The galleon. The island in the middle of the Atlantic. No specific order.

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[markbilly]

I am stuck - with many others it seems - with getting into the apartment for a second time. I can't find evidence although I have followed the hints here.

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I have copied the symbol, identified it using Percy, asked the Father about it, asked the Cardinal about it, and researched it. Also, finding the notepad proves the note was written as a cover up. Surely this is enough. What am I missing??

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Thanks.

Nevermind, I sorted it. You need to make sure you talk to Percy as well as show him to symbol.

[Nostradamus]

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On the item standing on the dresser, press the following buttons: The Fountain of Youth. The Ark of the Covenant. The galleon. The island in the middle of the Atlantic. No specific order.

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Olafmoriaty, I can't because

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on the first time when I'm with Alice after I get the keys Bianchi closes the door on her  I can only look at the item but not use it. And then I can't get back to bianchi's home because Alice won't come back with me and I have to explore some more before breaking & entering to Bianchi's house. But I have no idea what I have left to explore

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[olafmoriarty]

I see. Wasn't quite sure where you were in the game, sorry.

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In Bianchi's office, there's a notebook with a strange symbol drawn on it. If you haven't already done so, go back there and use your own notebook on it to copy the symbol.

Go to Percy and show him the symbol. Talk to Percy about the Knights of St. Anthony. Go to Father McNamara and talk to him about the Knights of St. Anthony. If you go back to Simon now, you have an argument for breaking and entering that works a little bit better than "Bianchi eats babies".

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[Nostradamus]

More help please:

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I can't take the amulet with my bare hands. Already talked with Bianchi about everything. What do I do now?[\hide]
Please give a full direct answer, not hints

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[Lufia]

More help please:

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I can't take the amulet with my bare hands. Already talked with Bianchi about everything. What do I do now?

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Please give a full direct answer, not hints

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Use the glove that you can find in the plumber outfit (with the hand icon in the inventory screen).

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[mustangsally]

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I got past the guard and I found the secret door and everything but now I'm trapped.  How do I get out?

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Thanks

[mustangsally]

I got it and i'm done.  Good game.

[TwinMoon]

About the cardinal sins you're able to confess to in the confession stand, can anyone tell me how to unlock pride?

I was wondering about that too.

I've managed to get all the points, "unlock" lust, it's just that small pride thing. It's so annoying!

Anyone?

[Grundislav]

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Look at yourself 3 times or more.

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[TwinMoon]

Ah... thanks!
I suspected it had something to do with that, must've clicked one time too few

[passer-by]

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I 'm in the secret room in Bianchi's office and I don't know what to do

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Help?

[robvalue]

If I remember right:

Hint

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Have a good look to see if anything is out of place

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Solution

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Examine the plaque under the missing relic (I think this was the top right one)

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[passer-by]

Thanks!

Now I'll spend my time wondering

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what Percy is really after.

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[Sugar 'n' Spice]

I am not able to solve the puzzle  :'( ... i know which buttons to press its made pretty clear in this thread BUT i cant make out which button represents what!!! I must be dumb 

[passer-by]

I am not able to solve the puzzle  :'( ... i know which buttons to press its made pretty clear in this thread BUT i cant make out which button represents what!!! I must be dumb 

Hold your mouse over each button, I think it shows the description

[olafmoriarty]

No, just like anywhere else in the game,

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use the "look" pointer to look at the button, and you get a description of it.

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[firefly]

I finished the game but this is really messing me up:

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How do I see what is behind the suicide note? I read here that this happened at the prison, but could someone be more clear?

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It's driving me insane, lol

[robvalue]

I'll try and help!

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If you mean what I think you mean, you need to go into your inventory and use the hand icon on the suicide note, Ben will turn it round. When you then examine it you see there is something faintly on the back. You then need to go grab a pencil from the police guy at the start of the police station and use it on the note to make the symbol appear clearly.

I hope this is what you meant, I thought you had to do this to complete the game though! So I'm a bit confused

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[olafmoriarty]

robvalue:

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Actually, you don't have to do that to finish the game -- you need the symbol, but that is also drawn on the notebook in Bianchi's office, and you can copy it from there. So while the flipping-suicide-note-thingy helps you get the extra points, it's not mandatory.

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[Sugar 'n' Spice]

Thanks a lot ... I have solved the puzzle 

[robvalue]

olafmoriarty:

Oh right I see, thanks I thought that

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comparing the two symbols was needed before you could convince Simon that you knew enough, obviously not!

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Thanks for the info!

[firefly]

Thank you robvalue 

That was exactly my problem