Journey to Hell

[Shadow1000]

I am finally stuck.

How do I

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steal the knife from the inn? I assume that I have to leave a substitute item to fool the innkeeper but nothing I own works (bodkin, alidade, tongs)

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Thank you

SHADOW

[Tabata]

a hint about getting the knife

First step is ...

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... to think about a way to get it out without carying it with you, when leaving the tavern. That's half the way.

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When you have figured that out ...

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... there is a clever timing needed, too.

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[Shadow1000]

a hint about getting the knife

First step is ...

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... to think about a way to get it out without carying it with you, when leaving the tavern. That's half the way.

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When you have figured that out ...

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... there is a clever timing needed, too.

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Figured it out!

Vielen Dank...

SHADOW

[axxesfun]

Would appreciate any help or hint:

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Already I can see the red berries, but I have not figured out how to grab them. Guess I need to scare the owl somehow... but I cant climb the tree with the rope.

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What todo about the monster stone relief? How can I enter the cave?

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Thanks.

[Tabata]

about cave-entry and red berries


No need to worry about right now ~ but don't tell the others 


If you really want/need a “bit” more specific clue about when you should begin to worry ...
(I'll try not to give away too much)

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red berries  ~  at some point in the game you will have earned some money for other reasons. Just some more actions from that you might be able to get them.

cave-entry  ~   hold it in mind during the play as one of your goals (not to miss hints), but as long as you haven't been "successfully" to Egypt, you don't have all the things needed to get in.

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[axxesfun]

@Tabata: Dont know how you helped me... Anyhow, I advanced in the game!

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Thought I already spoke to everybody about everything, were to all places at all times, tried out all my powers, interacted with all my items and to any hotspot in all combinations... but now I finally managed to arrive in Italy. (still I have not earned any money)

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Really nice game: entertaining story, logical puzzels and a great atmosphere. Thanks for such a masterpiece!

[Tabata]

@Tabata: Dont know how you helped me...

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I just tried to tell you, that it will last a long time until you need to go into those directions and because I know that it is not very helpfull to read only: "Don't care about it now" I also wanted to give you a clue, when it will be possible to go on - so just to be remembered, when you'll realize, that you reached that point, but still can't make it. If so, that would be the time to ask again.

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Glad you are making progress on your (long!) journey and Romeo will be happy to read you are enjoying and like the puzzeles.


a general hint about dialogs

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Sometimes you'll get new dialogs after you did something somewhere else â€" that way you sometimes  get hints about what to do next.

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Since it doesn't sound like you feel stuck in Venice, I don't leave a hint about that right now, but I am not english, so if I misunderstood your post about this, just call 

[axxesfun]

No, I dont feel stuck in Venice. So I wont need any further hint on this - at least for the moment.

Right now I am trying to figure out...

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what to do with the "Coats of Arms", that I found inside the crypt.

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[Shadow1000]

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I'm still desperately trying to make the ink. I tried to combine the burnt cork with everything in inventory and everything I see to no avail. Maybe I'm missing an item? What room is the item I combine the cork with to be found?

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SHADOW

[sthomannch]

Shadow1000

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You tried it on the piece of paper with the scribbling in your inventory?

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[Tabata]

about burned cork

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I don't know your inventory, but I am pretty sure, you already got it. Not that obviousely, but still  â€" a lot of the inventory items are worth a second look.

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about the ink ...

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You already mentioned the correct item  (in an other thread ) to be used for it

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[Shadow1000]

Shadow1000

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You tried it on the piece of paper with the scribbling in your inventory?

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Yes, and some letters appear...?

[sthomannch]

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Squeeze the berries in your inventory. The rest should be obvious

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mortar and pestle

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[Shadow1000]

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Squeeze the berries in your inventory. The rest should be obvious

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mortar and pestle

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Geez...I thought that was one of the first things I tried! Thank you...

SHADOW

[axxesfun]

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Squeeze the berries in your inventory. The rest should be obvious

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mortar and pestle

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Geez...I thought that was one of the first things I tried! Thank you...

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I could swear the very same for the ink and for at least another item.

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There are items where he states about "I dont need it at the moment" and thats ok, because you will keep this in mind and try them out later on in the game. But if I remember right, so far I had two items where he first said "No way!" and afterwards they worked out fine. I mean for exploring a game world, it makes a huge difference in getting a "I dont know WHY (to do something - at the moment)" or "No way!". As for the last statement you would not expect any gamer to repeat and try it out a second time.

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Anyway, its still such a great game that I enjoy a lot... thanks to Romeo! 

BTW:

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The keyword "ink" helped me to work out the letter and its stamp. Now I am going to do some exorcism. hehe"

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[axxesfun]

Right now...

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I am searching for a way to distract the snake charmer or the snake in order to get his flute or to be able to catch the snake for then defeating a poisoned scorpion with it. Any suggestions?

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[Tabata]

You are doing pretty well! 

about snake charmer/snake

just a little hint

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... an inhabitant might be able to give you a hint.

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a little bit more

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... it's something to distract the snake you will  need and you won't find it in Egypt.

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[axxesfun]

You are doing pretty well! 

about snake charmer/snake

just a little hint

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... an inhabitant might be able to give you a hint.

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a little bit more

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... it's something to distract the snake you will  need and you won't find it in Egypt.

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Guess I already got the hint

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that I need to have a snake in order to defeat the scorpion (natural enemy)

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and had the very same idea to go abroad again, but

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back at home he still wont let me pick up the sticks nor the rag.

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[Tabata]

Guess I already got the hint

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that I need to have a snake in order to defeat the scorpion (natural enemy)

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That's right so far, but for the snake ...

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... you also need something special to distract it.

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[axxesfun]

Guess I already got the hint

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that I need to have a snake in order to defeat the scorpion (natural enemy)

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That's right so far, but for the snake ...

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... you also need something special to distract it.

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Also, I already tried to:

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use the rope, get an instrument from the archlord, use my powers...now I will check back on the owl!

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[Tabata]

what you need for the snake:
!!not only a hint!!

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... asking how to get a snake you will be told to buy or catch one. Since there is no snake to buy you need to catch/steal one.  You already saw one, so we'll go “the easy way” and steal it.

The very special trick that grants you success for to catch it is a mole, because they love this delicatesse - so you need to find (and catch) a mole to be able to distract it with that yummy thing. 

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[axxesfun]

what you need for the snake:
!!not only a hint!!

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... asking how to get a snake you will be told to buy or catch one. Since there is no snake to buy you need to catch/steal one.  You already saw one, so we'll go “the easy way” and steal it.

The very special trick that grants you success for to catch it is a mole, because they love this delicatesse - so you need to find (and catch) a mole to be able to distract it with that yummy thing. 

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Thanks for your kind support...

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but how do I know /or can figure out/ that the mole is needed for the snake? Found no clue so far.

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meanwhile, I am...

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sailing in the north sea and trying to hunt some whales. Got the instructions and managed to kill 1 whale, but as soon as the ship crashes there is no whale left in the inventory. Also, it seems that the boat sinks most times for no reason...even wehen there is no whale in sight![/hint]

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[Tabata]

about snake-hint ingame ...

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... it is told to Martyn by an inhabitant of Egypt, when you ask for to get a snake 

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about whales-hunting ...

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... I am the worst whales-hunter you can think about , but the ship is not only sinking after crashing into the whale, there's also o rock you need to avoid â€" and if you really hit the whale from correct position, it will die and you'll get some money  - it will  be told, if you succeed. Good luck!

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[Romeo]

About the whale hunting

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it sounds like a bug. Sorry. One whale should be enough to get your money, but probably you killed the whale while the ship was sinking (or something like that). I hope you saved the game before hunting for whales. Btw, you'll be able to skip next 'ship fight' against a water dragon (which is harder) pressing the 'S' button.
BRomeo

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[axxesfun]

about snake-hint ingame ...

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... it is told to Martyn by an inhabitant of Egypt, when you ask for to get a snake 

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about whales-hunting ...

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... I am the worst whales-hunter you can think about , but the ship is not only sinking after crashing into the whale, there's also o rock you need to avoid â€" and if you really hit the whale from correct position, it will die and you'll get some money  - it will  be told, if you succeed. Good luck!

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Yes, you were right and

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I have not seen the rock, probably because I went whale hunting during the night. Now, I killed the whale, got the helmet and managed to catch the mole (what a funny event, haha). On my way back to Egypt.

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who would have thought of all these adventures at the beginning of the game. Fantastic story and addictive gameplay!

[axxesfun]

At the moment,

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I got stuck while trying to open the cave (I need to type in something and I already tried out the code of the paper and of the chest key) and still I cannot manage to get the red berries off the tree... tried with the mule, the snake, the rope on the tree and lots of other things. I do have in mind the hieroglyphs of the pyramid and I remember that guy in the dessert, who told me to make some money out of the egypt jewels - but it seems I need them for the cave . Also, have been back to Italy & Egypt... So far, I could not find anybody able to talk with me about all these subjects, nor any additional clue.

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[Tabata]

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... I do have in mind the hieroglyphs of the pyramid and I remember that guy in the dessert, who told me to make some money out of the egypt jewels ...

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That's pretty good!
...now you just need something else to help you translate them:

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... and you'll  need  an egyptian vase to do this.

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about the red berries at the tree

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... if you spent your earned money already, you now have the two needed items for this.
One gives you the chance to cut them off and the other one makes it possible for you to reach them. 

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[Shadow1000]

I'm stuck in Egypt.

I'm trying to:

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get to the lost pyramids by camel

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I have:

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the star map I took from the nunnery and the map I drew from the telescope

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I already:

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got the combination of constellations from the fortune teller from the stones from the Bedouin

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But I have no idea

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what to do with all that information. I would think that by looking at the star map, I would be able to follow the paths based on the stone combination but I can't imagine that the pattern in the sky is supposed to correspond to the constellations. If it is, I can't identify any star patterns so I must be missing something. To make it more difficult, you only get about 2 minutes to complete it because it turns light very quickly

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Thank you

SHADOW

[axxesfun]

I'm stuck in Egypt.

I'm trying to:

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get to the lost pyramids by camel

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I have: [the star map I took from the nunnery and the map I drew from the telescope[/spoiler]

I already:

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got the combination of constellations from the fortune teller from the stones from the Bedouin

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But I have no idea

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what to do with all that information. I would think that by looking at the star map, I would be able to follow the paths based on the stone combination but I can't imagine that the pattern in the sky is supposed to correspond to the constellations. If it is, I can't identify any star patterns so I must be missing something. To make it more difficult, you only get about 2 minutes to complete it because it turns light very quickly

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Thank you

SHADOW

You are on the right track with the map and the night sky. It took me some time as well...

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actually the night sky will show you the right way, if you figure out how to use it.

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hope that helps, regards.

[Tabata]

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I can't imagine that the pattern in the sky is supposed to correspond to the constellations.

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...you can't imagine, but it does

about pathways in the desert ...

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... you need the stars-map to identify the pathways â€" once you did that, you can concentrate on the order that you have been told from the fortune teller.
So I'd recommend doing a ride just to “control” the sky with your map â€" after this is been done, you can give it an other go to make the way in time. 

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Edit:
- as axxesfun said already -
Sorry - I am definetely too slow in typing this all in english 

[axxesfun]

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... I do have in mind the hieroglyphs of the pyramid and I remember that guy in the dessert, who told me to make some money out of the egypt jewels ...

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That's pretty good!
...now you just need something else to help you translate them:

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... and you'll  need  an egyptian vase to do this.

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about the red berries at the tree

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... if you spent your earned money already, you now have the two needed items for this.
One gives you the chance to cut them off and the other one makes it possible for you to reach them. 

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hmm...

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it seems that I cant afford to buy the only available vase in the game and I have not yet found a way to get more money.

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[Tabata]

hmm...

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it seems that I cant afford to buy the only available vase in the game and I have not yet found a way to get more money.

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about the buying

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... you might not need money to get what you want. Do you have something to trade?

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[vjeepusofthenile]

Ok, I'm asking for a "pest control" hint:

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I've got a staff and a helmet to cover two holes, but I don't know how to get the mole into the helmet. Raining or shaking doesn't work. The berries, seeds and pancakes don't work as bait. Waiting by the holes all day doesn't do anything. I can't even see any sign of the mole.

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[Tabata]

"pest control" hint

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... rain wasn't a bad idea, but that's not enough â€" you should try to pour in mooore at once

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[Shadow1000]

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I can't imagine that the pattern in the sky is supposed to correspond to the constellations.

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...you can't imagine, but it does

about pathways in the desert ...

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... you need the stars-map to identify the pathways â€" once you did that, you can concentrate on the order that you have been told from the fortune teller.
So I'd recommend doing a ride just to “control” the sky with your map â€" after this is been done, you can give it an other go to make the way in time. 

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Edit:
- as axxesfun said already -
Sorry - I am definetely too slow in typing this all in english 

Still no luck

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There's no connection between any of the star patterns and the star map. For example, I need to start with the snake. I looked at the star map for the snake pattern. You have about 1 second to look at the pattern and then try to find a match in the stars on the screen and then relate them to a path (right?). Nothing matches in the sky and the paths don't really line up with any star patterns

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I must be really missing something.

[Tabata]

a big one about using the star-map:

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... leave the stones aside first and go in the desert.
Use the map several times [on different places] on the sky to realize the order of the  star-signs ... after that you will know wich path is related to which sign ...  - good luck!

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[Shadow1000]

a big one about using the star-map:

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... leave the stones aside first and go in the desert.
Use the map several times [on different places] on the sky to realize the order of the  star-signs ... after that you will know wich path is related to which sign ...  - good luck!

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WOW!! It never dawned on me to use an inventory item on something not marked as a hotspot. That certainly changes the gameplay...

VIELEN DANK!!

[Tabata]

Hmmm -  last time I played the game there have been hotspots 
but whatever:

Bitteschön, wirklich gerne geschehen! 

[vjeepusofthenile]

Tabata, thanks for the tip. No luck so far but I'll keep trying.

[Tabata]

@ vjeepusofthenile
don't know your inventory, but it seems to me, you are missing an item ...

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I suppose you haven't explored the area at the river that closely?  ... It has plenty of water ... 

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[vjeepusofthenile]

Tabata,

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I'm not even sure what river I could explore. There's the one visible from the manure pile, but that's out of reach. There's the black water by the convent. There's the dry stream bed on the way to the magic peak.

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I don't understand what the game wants me to do.

[Tabata]

@ vjeepusofthenile

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Yes, the black water is it - you should go there and explore the near surroundings - I suppose you don't have the item to transport it yet - but you will find/create something that can be used for to do this...

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[vjeepusofthenile]

Finally made it through the garden puzzle - definitely the one that made the least sense to me this game. Am now struggling through some Egypt glitches:

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It's tricky deploying the snake in the right way, otherwise he gets stuck and you can't get to him again. And once the snake has successfully killed the scorpion, it's possible he gets stuck, and then you can't walk through that room with the pictures anymore without the game crashing. I don't know if that's going to affect my attempts to translate the hieroglyphics. I've also noticed the game crashes if you try to earthquake in chapel of the convent (though why you'd want to do that, I don't know)

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[Tabata]

Your problems in Egypt should be something for Romeo to look after. It would be nice, if you can sent him a pm to explain the problems you found in detail and if possible, the error message that appeared. Thank you.

about the hieroglyphs

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If you took the items from the statues and can't enter the room again later for to look at the hieroglyphs, we can work around this problem, because I can do a snapshot to be able to study it. That will do to go on without entering the room again.

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for those who can't enter the room with the statues and hieroglyphs again

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If you took the items from the statues, you can still make the game by watching at this picture when you are in need of.

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[vjeepusofthenile]

Anyone else having trouble with the hieroglyphs?
I may be overthinking this, but so far I've determined

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multiple letters assigned to the crane symbol (S and P) and the symbol with the sideways "9" (A and E). Also, I thought hieroglyphs were read from the opposite direction the animals are facing, and on the vase they face right so would go right to left, but the Adventurer says they read left to right. Whatever the message is, it seems to be broken down into 8 letters.

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[Tabata]

Anyone else having trouble with the hieroglyphs?
...

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... the Adventurer says they read left to right. Whatever the message is, it seems to be broken down into 8 letters.

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good start!


several hints about deciphering the hieroglyphs
(still hints, without the solution - just to be able to go on with the puzzle)
please decide on your own, whenever you'd like to read the next one

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..In order to translate the hieroglyphics you need to have an egyptian vase.

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second:

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the translation of the vase will help you to decipher the hieroglyphs

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third:

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The traveller in Venice can help to translate the vase

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fourth:

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now that you know the writing on the vase, you can change the hieroglyphes with the English letters ... and will get a name of an other goddes.

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[axxesfun]

FYI:

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The german edition of wikipedia offers a !full list of egyptian gods!, including their assigned hieroglyphes
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_%C3%A4gyptischer_G%C3%B6tter - unfortunately there is none matching the given code.

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[Romeo]

axxesfun:
good job, but I changed the hieroglyphes code just to avoid the player to discover the name by searching the web. Anyway,

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the name of the goddess needed to enter the cave is in the wikipedia's list you've found. Just follow Tabata's instructions.
BRomeo.

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[Shadow1000]

Stuck again.

I'm trying to do the

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stone disc puzzle

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I figure that the answer is the

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star map I made from the telescope

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but I can't figure out how I'm supposed to align the notches on each one.

Any hints, please?

SHADOW

[vjeepusofthenile]

Shadow,

first

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play with the wheel to see what you can and cannot move, and see how you can move the things.

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second

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look at the things that cannot move, that are "locked" in place, and look where their notches are.

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[vjeepusofthenile]

Ok I am in the bowels of a strange place, and I'm looking for a hint.

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With the king worm, I can manipulate the smoke to make more smoke, but what sort of gift is he looking for?

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[Shadow1000]

Shadow,

first

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play with the wheel to see what you can and cannot move, and see how you can move the things.

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second

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look at the things that cannot move, that are "locked" in place, and look where their notches are.

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I was trying to rotate them to get some symmetry and then the door opened unexpectedly, so I must have done something right!

Thanks, I think...lol

SHADOW

[Tabata]

@ shadow

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... Yes, you are right about the pic you made to use it for the solution - but since you already made it, you don't need my pic with the solution - congratz

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@ vjeepusofthenile

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... the gift is something to search for after you managed to escape the underground â€" for to handle this, you need to manipulate the steam(-pressure) - and one of your powers is needed, too

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[Shadow1000]

I'm having trouble not only with the multiple assignments but there's a letter in there that doesn't exist on the vase!


SHADOW

[Tabata]

Sorry, I can't look into it atm (I'm on the mobile), but ...

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... all the letters needed for the translation are on the vase.
If you are missing just one letter you might simply try one of the remaining, unused English letters (with a similar symbol)?

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[axxesfun]

I'm having trouble not only with the multiple assignments but there's a letter in there that doesn't exist on the vase!


SHADOW

@Shadow:
All you said is true. Just check out the wikipedia link that I posted a few messages before and be a bit more creative with the characters you have identified so far. For me it worked out and the first name I took from the list was the correct one

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to open the cave entrance.

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[vjeepusofthenile]

Just a general tip for folks when stumped: don't ignore the beggar.

Of course, he can't help you with everything. Anyone have a hint for reaching the owl or the bird or another winged creature?

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@ vjeepusofthenile
good catch on the beggar

I am not really sure at what point you are ...

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... are you searching the ingredience  for your first creature or the second? 

# If you have been able to get the red berries from the tree, then you should have what it needs for the first creature.

# If you already made the first one, then you are looking for a winged creature without feathers ...
   ... and you will have a big fight with it â€" to meet it  you will need to use first creature.

# If you are looking for an other reason I'll need more information to give a hint.

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[Shadow1000]

All you said is true. Just check out the wikipedia link that I posted a few messages before and be a bit more creative with the characters you have identified so far. For me it worked out and the first name I took from the list was the correct one

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to open the cave entrance.

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Actually, that's what I did first but didn't see any change so I went back to try to decipher again. I tried another time and it was successful. Maybe it's case sensitive OR maybe I typed something wrong because the font in the entry box is very unclear (at least on my screen).

Anyway, I succeeded this time. Thank you

SHADOW

[vjeepusofthenile]

Tabata,

My winged situation:

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I have the golden wand, sword and horse, but think I need the fire power to fight the dragon. I don't know where the berries are or how to get them. I think they have something to do with the owl, but even on horseback I can't reach it.

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[Tabata]

@ vjeepusofthenile

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You don't no where the red berries are? That's a bit confusing because if you can see the owl, you should have seen the berries, too!?
... and btw. you'll reach a bit higher by using the sword, while  sitting on the horse

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[Romeo]

vjeepusofthenile:

I think you don't have

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the red seeds yet. Try to remember who gave you the black seeds and what she told you about her sons. Then it should be easy go on to get the red berries (Tabata told you what to do).

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[vjeepusofthenile]

Tabata, Romeo, thank you.

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I had not thought to do anything else for the old woman.That's what I get for being selfish.

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[Shadow1000]

Another room, another dead end...

I'm at

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the bottom of the cave with the sex scenes. I'm guessing that I have to remove a certain combination of sex scenes from the wall corresponding either to the ones in the room or the ones NOT corresponding to the ones in the room. Some have no parallel in the drawing and I've tried all combinations.

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Any hints?

SHADOW

[vjeepusofthenile]

Shadow,

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It's a strange puzzle. You have to think...flexibly and creatively about how the images correspond to what's happening. It's more straightforward than you think - keep to your first, simpler interpretation.

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for another hint

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you can definitely eliminate some of the images from your options.

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for another

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the animals are definitely out

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[Shadow1000]

Shadow,

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It's a strange puzzle. You have to think...flexibly and creatively about how the images correspond to what's happening. It's more straightforward than you think - keep to your first, simpler interpretation.

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for another hint

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you can definitely eliminate some of the images from your options.

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for another

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the animals are definitely out

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Still no luck. I've tried 6 different combinations and I'm just guessing at this point. Any more clues...?

SHADOW

[vjeepusofthenile]

Shadow,

Here's more

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Count how many positions are in the underground. That's the number of drawings that should remain.

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More

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The drawings should correspond to the positions, some almost exactly, others might require thinking about Martyn's descriptions of them

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I had to narrow down my pool of possibilities by those methods, and then there was trial and error.

[Shadow1000]

Shadow,

Here's more

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Count how many positions are in the underground. That's the number of drawings that should remain.

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More

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The drawings should correspond to the positions, some almost exactly, others might require thinking about Martyn's descriptions of them

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I had to narrow down my pool of possibilities by those methods, and then there was trial and error.

yes, that's what I did before I posted my question here. I guessed that's what it's about. But there are only 2 out of the 4 that correspond to anything. The rest are a guess and so far I've not succeeded.

[vjeepusofthenile]

Shadow

Ok, i'm trying not to flat out ruin it.

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For me, like the translation puzzle, two of the positions had two possible images. But some of the positions are unambiguous. Think about what body parts are involved. You can narrow it down.

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[Shadow1000]

Shadow

Ok, i'm trying not to flat out ruin it.

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For me, like the translation puzzle, two of the positions had two possible images. But some of the positions are unambiguous. Think about what body parts are involved. You can narrow it down.

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Ok, will try again when I get a chance. Thank you

[vjeepusofthenile]

Ok, in the ruins...

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Remember the advice from your relatives

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[Shadow1000]

I spent another half hour on this puzzle. I recorded every combination that I removed after removing the animals (15 possible combinations) and still no luck. Any hints on how to solve this? I assume that I'm trying to leave 4 of them so after the animals there are only 2 more to remove. I must be wrong somewhere.

SHADOW

[Romeo]

Shadow1000:
These are the images you have to wipe off:

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straight sex, female masturbation, doggy style sex and cunnilingus

Please let me know if you can't go on...

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[axxesfun]

about fighting dragons...

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if its true and only super powers are allowed to use, I wonder if I might have a positioning or timing problem to solve? There are two powers available and I guess to use first fire power and second earthquake, in order to hit the dragon with the falling rock. But the time is too short to hit him and whenever earthquake power is used, he turns to the side and then its quite difficult (and it takes me too long) to turn Martyn back in position for another front fire shot - meanwhile the dragon moved back again or disappeared.

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[Shadow1000]

Shadow1000:
These are the images you have to wipe off:

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straight sex, female masturbation, doggy style sex and cunnilingus

Please let me know if you can't go on...

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Oh...I thought those were the ones I had to leave on. I guess I got it backwards. Thank you

[vjeepusofthenile]

Axxes,

You're right on the mark. Try slowing down the game, to give yourself a little time. And sometimes it helps to be repetitive.

Extra

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Observe what happens when you hit the dragon with a fireball.

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Extra2:

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You want the rock to hit him just right.

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[axxesfun]

Axxes,

You're right on the mark. Try slowing down the game, to give yourself a little time. And sometimes it helps to be repetitive.

Extra

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Observe what happens when you hit the dragon with a fireball.

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Extra2:

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You want the rock to hit him just right.

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so it seems to be a timing problem...

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Thats exactly what I observed, thought and what I already tried numerous times... even with some combos of fireshots/earthquakes. Now I slowed down the game and still the dragon always moves his foot back before the falling rock is ready to hit him.

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[Tabata]

hint about what is needed for the dragons fight

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...yes, it' timing and positioning ...
You need to shoot from a correct position to make it move to the side â€" step, by step â€" when it has moved enough you can do the final strike as as already suspected ...

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a bit more about positioning

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Did you realize the pathway on the right side of the screen?

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a bit more about timing

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Three hits for to make it stand right and then the stone will be able to do you want it to do - and you need to do it all fast

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[axxesfun]

Tabata:

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No, I was not aware of the pathway on the right side of the screen - there was no separate hotspot. And all clicking onto the hotspot of the gate, which I should try to enter, only gave negative answers! So Martyn walked left and right but not ahead, because the path was not clearly visible. Thanks for your support... otherwise I could have been there for hours

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further on...

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Now that I created the second extra animal power, I am trying to fight the minotaurus creature. I think its quite important to slow down the game, but still I had no success to conquer him. It could be another timing & positioning issue: Guess it might be best to hit him frontal, where the right timing seems to be very difficult to find.

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[vjeepusofthenile]

Axxes,

for your second challenge

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I had to slow the game down quite a bit to handle the bull man. Even though you can't bring up the inventory menu, you can press F5 to bring up the save game option and F7 for the load option, so you don't need to go through the flying sequence each time, especially useful if you slowed the game down before fighting the bull man.

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strategy

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He has a pretty simple attack pattern, with clues before he attacks. He's a bull and bulls only do one thing.

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more strategy

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the game mechanics isn't perfect, so don't wait too long before swinging

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[Tabata]

about the fight in the ruins  ...

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Yes â€" it's hard - but even I made it some day (without slowing the game down) - so you will  make it, too for sure.

You need to hit it three times.
Take a position to make it have a long distance to run towards you (to have more time to react).
Do the hitting, when it starts running and always change position right after the sword stab (it remembers your position)
The rest is training â€" good luck!

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[axxesfun]

frustration...

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I crushed the bull man 4/5 times and finally it says he wont die by the sword (not powerful enough) ?!? But whats absolutlely more frustrating is the fact that many times, even when you hit him and the blood splashes, I am still being run over and getting injured.

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vjeepusofthenile: Yes the flying sequence is far too long, especially since you are forced to slow down the game before. Can remember only one sequence in the game where I was able to cut the scene by pressing the ESC-key. Dunno why its impossible here. Thanks for your help about the F5/F7 keys - thought they are not available during the fight like the game menu is not.

[Tabata]

needed for the ruins fight

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yes, the sword needs to be powered up!
Search for a special place (you saw a pic of it in the house)[\hide]

... more, if needed as soon as I am back home

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[axxesfun]

serious help needed!

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Whenever I am using my new wind power (the place and the direction does not matter) the game keeps stucked with an hourglass. The music continues to play like normal and I am able to move the hourglass, but I cannot click with it on anything else nor it works pressing ESC or F5/F7 keys.

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...and for Romeo I do have something else to debug:
1st

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http://minus.com/mcnkMFufL/2f - this happened inside the pyramid.

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2nd

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http://minus.com/mcnkMFufL/1f - this happened when the horse is at home in the stable and you start an earthquake.

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[Romeo]

Axxesfun:
I'm really sorry but I've no idea about what's happening with wind power...
1) when you use that power can you ear the wind sound?
2) does the hourglass disappear after some seconds? Or you have to restart the game?

Thanks for the other bugs report.
BRomeo

[axxesfun]

Axxesfun:
I'm really sorry but I've no idea about what's happening with wind power...
1) when you use that power can you ear the wind sound?
2) does the hourglass disappear after some seconds? Or you have to restart the game?

Thanks for the other bugs report.
BRomeo

1) Yes, I can hear the wind sound and see the tornado animation wandering through the screen until it leaves. Now that you mentioned the sounds: Always I wondered why do I hear the sound of the horse as well, even if I am 1 or 2 scenarios away from it - to say: the horse is not in the actual screen!
2) No, the hourglass does not disappear! I cant do anything else, except leaving the game by pressing ALT+F4. Now I figured out something strange: The windpower seems to works fine to the north & south -game cursor comes back and no horse sound-, but seems to crash all the time to the west & east directions -horse sound and hourglass wont disappear.

So I can hope to need the wind only in north/south directions?

[vjeepusofthenile]

Axxes,

I had some similar issues from the wind. I think it only works in rooms where you *need* to use the wind. Irritating, but at least it helps narrow down when you don't need the wind power. Same with the earthquake power - it's unlikely to crash in a room where you need to use it. In the rooms where you need wind, you can use it in all directions - at least I could

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in the firefly crossroads room.

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[Shadow1000]

First, a question out of curiosity:

When you crash your ship, it says that it will take "a few hours to repair". I'm just wondering how long is a "few hours"? I slept for about 24 hours and the ship was still not repaired so I figured that for some reason, sleeping doesn't advance the clock so I left my computer running for about 45 minutes and it still needed "a few hours".

It's just for curiosity because I killed the sea monster and made the big bucks anyway.

Next: I need

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swordfish scales

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. I haven't seen anything of this sort in the game and have no idea where to even look after roaming for a while. Any hints, please?

SHADOW

[Tabata]

about swordfish scales...

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... you won't have luck with this one (to be able to make the shown creature),
... but maybe the trick might work with (part of) other animals, too?

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if you need an idea:

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...the horse and the mole (hair of them) will work for a start

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about the waiting time to repair the ship:
Most of the time I did it like all the players will do â€" start again right away with a savegame, but during the test I tried that one, too.  I just had to pass some of the scenes (so not really several hours, when watching the clock at the top) to be able to go on board again.



I haven't been asked so far, but I thought, that there might be some players with trouble to identify colours.
To give those the chance to be able using the magic bowl in the magic circle  ~ this one is made for you:

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After you placed an egg in the bowl you need to use the rocks in a special order to activate it.

... those of you who are colourblind or have trouble for to recognize colours :
You can take a look over here to be able to identify the rocks.

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[Shadow1000]

about swordfish scales...

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... you won't have luck with this one (to be able to make the shown creature),
... but maybe the trick might work with (part of) other animals, too?

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if you need an idea:

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...the horse and the mole (hair of them) will work for a start

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about the waiting time to repair the ship:
Most of the time I did it like all the players will do â€" start again right away with a savegame, but during the test I tried that one, too.  I just had to pass some of the scenes (so not really several hours, when watching the clock at the top) to be able to go on board again.



I haven't been asked so far, but I thought, that there might be some players with trouble to identify colours.
To give those the chance to be able using the magic bowl in the magic circle  ~ this one is made for you:

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After you placed an egg in the bowl you need to use the rocks in a special order to activate it.

... those of you who are colourblind or have trouble for to recognize colours :
You can take a look over here to be able to identify the rocks.

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1) THANK YOU for the tip. I don't think I would have ever thought to use

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a mole's hairs in a recipe that called for swordfish scales.

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2) THANK YOU for the sequence, similarly, I would not have been able to identify those colours

Now I have the new power, whatever it does!

SHADOW

[Tabata]

@ shadow
to 1)

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I think the point is, not to go for the recipe ... and create your own “stuff”
- like a chef creates a new and interesting meal on basis of his knowledge by changing some ingredients

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to 2)
WOW, so it was the perfect moment to come up with it 
(I wasn't sure about if and when to come up with it)
... but don't take a peek before you need it 

[Shadow1000]

I'm trying to figure out where to

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power up the sword

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. I looked at

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the picture

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but don't see any place that looks like it...

Hints?

SHADOW

[Tabata]

you are searching for ...

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... a place called crystal mountain and try to get there

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[Shadow1000]

you are searching for ...

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... a place called crystal mountain and try to get there

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Oh...never heard of it..thank you

[partydoc]

I'm stuck after returning from Venice,

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made out how to write the letter from the Archbishop, but have no idea how to get his stamp underneath it. Tried everything with ink and feather and burnt cork... nothing. The key to the chest in the hidden passage looks a little bit like an Archbishops sign, but also I can't combine it with anything else... 

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Thanks for your help!

[Tabata]

partydoc you are on the right track ...

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...sometimes wax can help.

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Btw. please use spoilers for that others don't read hints by accident - Thanks!

[partydoc]

Ok, I was thinking about sth like this before, but...

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I don't have any wax, already tried to interact with the candle in several ways, but with no effect...

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[Tabata]

Well, the candle is ...

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...made of wax â€" how about to cut a piece off.

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[partydoc]

This seems pretty logical. Maybe I'm misssing an important item?

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Neither with the knife, the fire tongs (seperated or together) nor with the bodkin I'm able to cut the candle...

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Please, Tabata, I'm really desperate... 

[Tabata]

Hmm, did you ...

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...blow the candle out before cutting?

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[partydoc]

Wow, these puzzles get more and more difficult... or am I too stupid?!
I didn't expect this game to become such a huge challenge, but otherwise, there are really plenty of games containing puzzles, which are much too easy, so I won't complain!

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I finally placed the melted wax underneath the letter now, but I still have no stamp. The idea with the chest key, which reminds me of an Archbishop's sign, seems not to work. On the other hand, I finally found the crypt in the cathredal, so I thought maybe to find the Archbishop's ring there, but nothing seems to fit in the keyhole... Or am I following the wrong path at the moment?

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[Tabata]

Yes, this one is for real adventurers and it is (very) hard sometimes.   

But you are (still) on the right track ...

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...what you need for to complete a seal is to be found in the crypt.
Think about how a seal on a letter in real is to be made and watch out for something you can use to create your seal. It's not that hidden.

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[axxesfun]

Wow, these puzzles get more and more difficult... or am I too stupid?!
I didn't expect this game to become such a huge challenge, but otherwise, there are really plenty of games containing puzzles, which are much too easy, so I won't complain!

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I finally placed the melted wax underneath the letter now, but I still have no stamp. The idea with the chest key, which reminds me of an Archbishop's sign, seems not to work. On the other hand, I finally found the crypt in the cathredal, so I thought maybe to find the Archbishop's ring there, but nothing seems to fit in the keyhole... Or am I following the wrong path at the moment?

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hint:

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What you are searching for, can be find in the crypt. True you need to have a key for the keyhole... what can you do in order to get a key?

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more:

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...whenever needed, you can cut off more wax from the candle and...

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quite hot:

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Have you already tried to create a copy?

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[partydoc]

Thank you so much, Tabata and axxesfun ,

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combining the wax with the keyhole finally did the trick. Now, after a cool exorcism (it reminds me of the classic movie), I made it to egypt.

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[partydoc]

Stuck in the desert...

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I want to reach the pyramids. The fortune teller showed me two stones, one with the meteorite and one with a moon-and-star sign. So, what have these signs got to do with the four paths? There are for star signs which may be connected with the paths (if I got this right): leo, cancer, snake and bear. I really can't see the connection between these four signs and the two stones the fortune teller showed me.

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[Tabata]

about fortune teller ...

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...this two stones are about the topic to follow and a hint about what time you need to go.
You'll meet someone new for a dialog then and afterwards she will show you a second series of  (more and other) stones - just the way you expect it â€" so hold on to your thoughts â€" your guess it correct about how to get to the pyramid.
I simply don't remember right now, if you need to do a special dialog with someone else about that or if you need to have an item in inventory before it will happen â€" but if you are still stuck I'll look into it.
Modified this hint not to confuse later readers - Thanks to "Shadow" for clarifying

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[partydoc]

No, there goes nothing...

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I've been in in the desert several times at night, combined the star map with the sky and saw the map appear on the sky, then took this and that path by chance... Tried to interact with the mteorite... Tried to combine the map of the sirius constellation with the sky and so on...
Went back to England and Italy, nobody wants to talk with me any more, I can't interact with anything else any more which would provoce any change...
The fortune teller still only shows me the meteorite and the moon+star sign, which means, that I shall ride in the desert at night, but no hint, in which order I should follow the four paths...

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That means, once again, I am completely stuck an doesn't know, what else I should try or do!

[Shadow1000]

No, there goes nothing...

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I've been in in the desert several times at night, combined the star map with the sky and saw the map appear on the sky, then took this and that path by chance... Tried to interact with the mteorite... Tried to combine the map of the sirius constellation with the sky and so on...
Went back to England and Italy, nobody wants to talk with me any more, I can't interact with anything else any more which would provoce any change...
The fortune teller still only shows me the meteorite and the moon+star sign, which means, that I shall ride in the desert at night, but no hint, in which order I should follow the four paths...

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That means, once again, I am completely stuck an doesn't know, what else I should try or do!

Did you

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follow the meteorite and meet the Bedouin?

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SHADOW

[partydoc]

Thank you Shadow1000,

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I did try follow the meteorite several times before, but i didn't think, that I would have to do this again and again several times, before sth happens. Then I got too much distracted by the hints about the star signs in this forum, because nobody mentioned to follow the meteorite to find the bedouine an then the real story wth the different star sign begins...

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Now I am at last in the pyramid! Let's see what comes next...  

[Shadow1000]

Thank you Shadow1000,

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I did try follow the meteorite several times before, but i didn't think, that I would have to do this again and again several times, before sth happens. Then I got too much distracted by the hints about the star signs in this forum, because nobody mentioned to follow the meteorite to find the bedouine an then the real story wth the different star sign begins...

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Now I am at last in the pyramid! Let's see what comes next...  

You're welcome. Good luck and enjoy the game.

SHADOW

[partydoc]

Yeah, I finally made it, the world is saved (for now...)

Thanks for all the help from Tabata, Axxes and Shadow and the other hints in this forum. 

Some of the puzzles were really difficult, somehow I liked that, so it took me some long evenings to find out the solutions. As I said before, some games have much too easy puzzles nowadays, so you are through them pretty too fast! Although sometimes it wasn't too obvious what the game wanted from me, but the longer I played it, the more I understod the way these puzzles are constructed.

Really nice game, with a very unique style and atmosphere, afar from the mainstream, although with some little bugs and flaws - most of them already mentioned in this forum.

Romeo, hope to see and play more from you in the future, you really made a god job!! 

Greetings from Germany,

Partydoc

[Tabata]

Congratulations for the first adventurers successfully completing this „hellish“  game!
                 
Maybe you want to vote that game or/and leave a comment for other users to let them know, what will await them entering this adventure?
You can do it in the database over here and of course taking the time to leave a comment for the author in the forums-thread is very appreciated for feedback and critism. I am pretty sure that praise is also gladly accepted by Romeo 

btw.
(I am just curious to know) 
Did you rescue the world including Leyla? 

[partydoc]

Did you rescue the world including Leyla? 

Oh, are there several endings??

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In "my" ending, Leyla wanted to live with me and the last scene was a romantic kiss with her sorrunded by a big heart.

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What might the other endings be and what triggers them?

[Tabata]

@ partydoc
To get your (very) happy ending you

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rescued her earlier at the cemetary.

I didn't ... and saw her (body) again in hell â€" So I had a not so romantic ending at my first try.
Just a hero who saved the world, but without a kiss/bride as a reward

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[partydoc]

Oh, I see...

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You didn't manage to kill the devil at the cemtery who tries to grab her just in time...

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That's sad of course... 

I already voted for the game and made a comment in the database. 

Vielen Dank für Deine Hilfe Tabata, Du bist ja unglaublich engagiert und aktiv in diesem Forum! Super!!! 

[Tabata]

I already voted for the game and made a comment in the database. 

Cool - thank you!

... That's sad of course... 

Yepp â€" that's what happened - but no prob, because I got it later, too 

Vielen Dank für Deine Hilfe Tabata, Du bist ja unglaublich engagiert und aktiv in diesem Forum! Super!!! 

Gern geschehen! ... und Dankesehr!

[peter]

Here you can found a walkthrough

http://gamesolves.eu5.org/free/free.htm

[al77]

Much thanks Peter, I was looking every page for this! I always need a walkthru to get out of even the first room, I'm proud to say.

[Eli]

Hi, very nice game... but i am very frustated with the minotauro part... I have hit it 3 times but I don´t kill it never... and I have my sword as it has to be... fine. Ok, thanks for the game, very very good game !!!!

[sthomannch]

you have

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charged the sword? You can also slow down the game and look at the other hints about the minotaur in this thread. You have to position your character at the right spot (move between attacks) and swing the sword early enough.

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