The Order

Started by Shadow1000, Mon 30/09/2024 06:04:37

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Shadow1000

I am finally stuck.

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I have to find the Hawi book recommended by the mystic but it's not in the library. The only book I haven't seen the title of is the one that the librarian is blocking but I don't know how to move him.

I don't know how to open the mouth of the head

I don't know how to get precious metals for the pimp

I think I need a recipe to use in the kitchen but that make be in the book I mentioned at first.

I don't know how to look at the inscription next to the door

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I probably only need help with one or two of these in order to solve the rest but I really don't know how to proceed.

Thank you


Ian Aloser

Hi Shadow,
i don't have a savegame for this part of the game anymore,
so I try to do my best to help with from what I remember
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I have to find the Hawi book recommended by the mystic but it's not in the library. The only book I haven't seen the title of is the one that the librarian is blocking but I don't know how to move him.

I have to find the Hawi book recommended by the mystic but it's not in the library. The only book I haven't seen the title of is the one that the librarian is blocking but I don't know how to move him.

I don't know how to open the mouth of the head
I believe you could just open the mouth, then push the tongue

I don't know how to get precious metals for the pimp
You will find it in the mouth, you need an item from the board in the kitchen to remove it

I think I need a recipe to use in the kitchen but that make be in the book I mentioned at first.
The Hawi book should be on the left side of the shelf's top row
I think I had to replace a book from the magician's room with one from the shelf, but not 100% sure anymore,
it had to be of a particular color
You don't have to get rid of the librarian !

I don't know how to look at the inscription next to the door
It will be accessible at a later point in the game

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This is a really nice game well worth playing !

Shadow1000

Thank you. That was helpful!

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I must have missed the Hawi with all the other books, and for some reason it didn't occur to me to simply open the mouth
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splat44

I am also stuck.

Where and how to get:
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coins to enter castle?

So far I picked up all possible plants or hebs even by climbing down cliff. Not sure with to do with hole, mable tree and sparkles
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Ian Aloser

You cannot
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Enter the castle through the gate
The entrance can be found where you climbed down....
Check the wall
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splat44

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Righ now I have and a bug possibly:

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Cloths and putting old outfit back on before climbing back, Logs, cannot use sparkles on as it need tinder. I thought possibly fall out moss could be right tinder but apparedently not

I an wondering is a bug?
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When pressing relief button, door opens and closes for few seconds and unsure what to do with that
and game does allows using items when door is open
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Shadow1000

Stuck again

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I need to start the fire. I assume that I need a page from a book for kindling, but I can't take any of the books from the library. I can't bring the shears TO the library either. I tried using the sparks on everything in sight, I tried using the dagger on the one book (Hawi) that I can take off the shelf. I am thinking that there's a way to get rid of the library guard?
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Thank you

Ian Aloser

@Shadow1000: I was stuck there, too
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You're on the right track, but you can't get rid of the librarian
Take a very close look at the Hawi book
especially at the bottom of the right page !
(I'm quite sure it's the Hawi book)
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@splat44
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Move the chest against the tile !
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lapsking

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@Ian Aloser  Thank you for making life much easier for everyone. :)

@Shadow1000 regarding tinder
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Hawi pages are intact. For tinder, first you should have access to "Olum-e Qaribeh" book (meaning "Occult") after solving certain puzzles.
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There is no cure for clumsiness, or at least I haven't found one.

Shadow1000

@Ian Aloser
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I pixel hunted the right page and I don't see anything at the bottom. Just to make sure I didn't miss a hotspot, I pressed Tab and the only hotspots are the left page and right page
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@lapsking
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I found Olum e Qaribeh in the library but I can't use it, push, pull, look at, pick up, etc.
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Thank you

lapsking

@Shadow1000

Huge spoiler alert! I don't know which puzzles you haven't solved yet, so it's rather kind of walk through, if you don't want to spoil the whole thing, just read till you find a new hint and then stop reading:
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To be able to open/look at the book Olum-e Qaribeh, first you need to solve these puzzles:
1. Cut the golden wire in the severed head's mouth with the shears in the kitchen
2. Give the golden wire to pimp
3. Talk to sexslave (she'll tell you she's looking for the book Roman Myths)
4. Talk to librarian about the book Roman Myths, he'll mention "Sad Barg Ostureh"
5. After Picking up the red book from Mystic's room you'll be able to swap it with "Roman Myths" aka "Sad Barg Ostureh" in the library
6. Give the "Sad Barg Ostureh" book to sexslave
7. You should be able to pull her sheet and look at her tattooed breast and receive her loincloth
8. Give/show the loincloth to mystic and he'll tell you that you need to look at the "Olum-e Qaribeh" book to decipher the occult writing on the loincloth
9. You can tear off the loose bottom right corner of the page and it will go unnoticed by the librarian
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There is no cure for clumsiness, or at least I haven't found one.

Shadow1000

Quote from: lapsking on Wed 02/10/2024 06:10:38@Shadow1000

Huge spoiler alert! I don't know which puzzles you haven't solved yet, so it's rather kind of walk through, if you don't want to spoil the whole thing, just read till you find a new hint and then stop reading:
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To be able to open/look at the book Olum-e Qaribeh, first you need to solve these puzzles:
1. Cut the golden wire in the severed head's mouth with the shears in the kitchen
2. Give the golden wire to pimp
3. Talk to sexslave (she'll tell you she's looking for the book Roman Myths)
4. Talk to librarian about the book Roman Myths, he'll mention "Sad Barg Ostureh"
5. After Picking up the red book from Mystic's room you'll be able to swap it with "Roman Myths" aka "Sad Barg Ostureh" in the library
6. Give the "Sad Barg Ostureh" book to sexslave
7. You should be able to pull her sheet and look at her tattooed breast and receive her loincloth
8. Give/show the loincloth to mystic and he'll tell you that you need to look at the "Olum-e Qaribeh" book to decipher the occult writing on the loincloth
9. You can tear off the loose bottom right corner of the page and it will go unnoticed by the librarian
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Thanks! I actually completed 7 before getting stuck, but now I'll continue with 8....thanks again!

splat44

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I sure appreciate, your help you provived.

I am trying to make sense based on quote you made to Shadow and I am a bit confuse and need some clarication by you or Shadow perhaps:

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We know Hawi book is on top left shelf of Library but when do mystic recommends such book? So far in my game, that mystic guy does not recommend a thing yet.

You mention magician room, I assume that is mystic room? I seem trying replacing book one by one with "Hawi" book but do to pixel hunting it is pretty hard to do. Perhaps you and Shadow can put clarication?
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Quote from: Ian Aloser on Mon 30/09/2024 12:32:05Hi Shadow,
i don't have a savegame for this part of the game anymore,
so I try to do my best to help with from what I remember
Spoiler
I have to find the Hawi book recommended by the mystic but it's not in the library. The only book I haven't seen the title of is the one that the librarian is blocking but I don't know how to move him.

I have to find the Hawi book recommended by the mystic but it's not in the library. The only book I haven't seen the title of is the one that the librarian is blocking but I don't know how to move him.

I don't know how to open the mouth of the head
I believe you could just open the mouth, then push the tongue

I don't know how to get precious metals for the pimp
You will find it in the mouth, you need an item from the board in the kitchen to remove it

I think I need a recipe to use in the kitchen but that make be in the book I mentioned at first.
The Hawi book should be on the left side of the shelf's top row
I think I had to replace a book from the magician's room with one from the shelf, but not 100% sure anymore,
it had to be of a particular color
You don't have to get rid of the librarian !

I don't know how to look at the inscription next to the door
It will be accessible at a later point in the game

[close]

This is a really nice game well worth playing !

lapsking

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@splat44

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There are 3 books in the library that you can interact with:

1. After talking to mystic about medical compounds, you'll be able to read/look at "Hawi" for the concoction recipe

2. After talking to sexslave and then librarian you'll be able to swap/use the mystic's red book with "Sad Barg Ostureh"

3. After showing/giving the loincloth to mystic you'll be able to read/look at "Olum-e Qaribeh"
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There is no cure for clumsiness, or at least I haven't found one.

splat44

Well, I don't know but I suspect few bugs

Importantly:
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  • I see no dialog on medical compound when speaking with mystic, remaining as you quoted works
  • When attempting pushing door dials, I get message I need putting prince to sleep. If prince is inside then it's a dead end
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How you explain that?

Quote from: lapsking on Thu 03/10/2024 21:48:47@splat44

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There are 3 books in the library that you can interact with:

1. After talking to mystic about medical compounds, you'll be able to read/look at "Hawi" for the concoction recipe

2. After talking to sexslave and then librarian you'll be able to swap/use the mystic's red book with "Sad Barg Ostureh"

3. After showing/giving the loincloth to mystic you'll be able to read/look at "Olum-e Qaribeh"
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lapsking

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@splat44

About how to get access to "Hawi" book:
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1. Try to pick up the jug of wine and fedai will say he needs to ask for permission from mystic first
2. New dialog option will be added to mystic's dialog "Have you been drinking wine?"
3. New dialog option will be added "Can I have the jug of wine?"
4. New dialog option will be added "Do you know anything about medicinal compounds?" He'll mention the book "Hawi" and you should be able to look at/open the book

You can use the arrow on the bottom right corner to toggle down/up dialog options.
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About how to put the prince into sleep:
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1. Make the concoction prepared according to the recipe in Hawi book after starting fire in the kitchen
2. Put the jug of wine mixed with concoction back on the tray in the mystic's room
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There is no cure for clumsiness, or at least I haven't found one.

heltenjon

I think a general hint would be to revisit earlier places after new information is given. @lapsking spells it out in his hints above. The game is designed to gradually give the player new options when he acquires new knowledge. This may mean that he now may perform an action previously not available, something may become visible now that he knows what to look for, or the choice of dialogue choices may increase. Be patient, and you will prevail. (I needed hints when betatesting, too.) ;)

lapsking

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What @heltenjon said is true. I'm glad I'm being encouraged by players @Shadow1000 and @splat44 to write a sort of walkthrough. And thanks to @Ian Aloser for helping me with that.
There is no cure for clumsiness, or at least I haven't found one.

splat44

I finish game earlier today!

Door code really almost got me stumble but I figure it out

I know:
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Two possible endings, one is killing prince and other one "Not sure"
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Totally apprecciate your helps lapsking

lapsking

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@splat44
The story reveals itself in dialogs, also some puzzle clues, (deliberately as subtle as possible) which are mostly repeatable till puzzles are solved.

About the second ending:
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As mystic suggests you can abduct the Prince and leave the order. Look at your inventory and see which items help you with his abduction.
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There is no cure for clumsiness, or at least I haven't found one.

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