The Shame of the Pack

Started by splat44, Fri 22/11/2024 04:57:11

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splat44

I have following:

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Beer bottle (looking at it, it appears it need being frozen, found missing picture and carjack)
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Here what I am doing but unsure how to trick that guy

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Turn off TV and unplug plug near that guy. I know we can make Frank transparent by right-clicking on him but goes back to normal for each movement
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Sakkeus

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You need something from the shed to deal with the fox. And the beer is part of the solution, and in the solution should not be ice cold, but the opposite...
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splat44

Ok,

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It would make sense using oil can on unplugged thing after turning off TV but cannot do that! Anything else?
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Quote from: Sakkeus on Fri 22/11/2024 05:22:04
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You need something from the shed to deal with the fox. And the beer is part of the solution, and in the solution should not be ice cold, but the opposite...
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Sakkeus


How to deal with the fox?

Small hint
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The fox obviously has heard something about Wolfgang, but won't disclose it.
It's too bad, that he feels like a king in that armchair of his.
He also has the revolver by his side, which limits your options.
Frank needs to make the fox talk, but how?
Maybe by putting the fox in the other end of the revolver, somehow.
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Bigger hint
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Through conversation and by trying to use various blunt objects to the Fox
Frank states that violence is NOT out of the question.
The fox still needs to be able to talk, so killing or maiming the fox isn't allowed.
Is there a time when the fox loosens his grip on the gun? Could he be trapped somehow?
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Spell it out for you -hint
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If you've played around the house, you notice that the by closing the tv first,
you can unplug the extension cord by the armchair. After some time the fox plugs
the tv back in. That's your shot to trap him, but with what?
Maybe the shed outside holds some items to aid you in your noble deeds.
Too bad that the lock is jammed/frozen.
How to get inside the shed?
It involves the beer bottle and and the axe. Deadly combination.
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Solution
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Take the beer that's on the fridge.
Use the thermostat on the radiator, put the
beer on radiator.
Wait for a while, or exit/re-enter.
Take the beer.
Go outside, melt the ice off the axe.
If you haven't, try the lock on the shed first
Use axe on shed door.
Inside the shed, take the spray oil
pull the tarp off, take the bear trap
Go back inside
The bear trap is jammed, spray oil on it.
NOW:
Use the bear trap on Frank
->turn tv off
->unplug the extension cord
-> put the "active" beartrap on the extension cord
-DEMO
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Ian Aloser

@Sakkeus :
What a great game !
I managed to get pretty far without needing a hint, but now I am totally stuck with....
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... getting rid of the moles
I always run out of ammo, I think I need another strategy.
The one behind the blue barrels on the left side can only be killed by shooting
the microwave like object on top of the barrels by using 3 bullets, correct?
The one on the right always disappears when the cursor gets close to it (same with the
one behind the blue barrels)
Aiming at the objects nearby doesn't work...
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Sakkeus

Thanks Ian!
Have you tried
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shooting at the crane controls and dropping the yellow-red block on the moles?
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Ian Aloser

#6
In fact, I just found that out.
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Still running out of ammo.
Are the three shots on the microwave the correct approach?7
EDIT: Seems like the crane controls need two shots, correct?
So I always end up with one mole remaining....
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Thanks for the help, this is a great game, I love its humour !

Sakkeus

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The problem with moles.

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How to use your bullets:
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1 & 2
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Shoot the two moles peeking from their holes. In which order you kill this one,is not important.
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3
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Shoot the one on the ledge. In which order you kill this one is not important.
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4, 5 & 6
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Shoot the microwave three times, it drops on a mole. One mole runs from behind the barrels to behind the sandbags.
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7
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Break the crane control window with one bullet.
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8
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Wait until the "patrolling" mole is behind the sandbag, then drop the concrete block on the TWO moles by shooting at the crane control lever.
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9
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Shoot the one mole running back and forth near the cliffside. In which order you kill this one, is not important.
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10
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Shoot the last mole moving back and forth in the front. In which order you kill this one, is not important
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Ian Aloser

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Thanks Sakkeus,
I hope I will make it, sometimes I am a bit too "trigger friendly"
and I accidentally fire without aiming ....
Spoiler 8 must be the solution , not easy though ...
EDIT : Is the order mandatory?

Sakkeus

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The microwave must be dropped first, so that the one hiding mole will go behind the sandbags.After that you can shoot the crane controls (at the right time, killing the two moles).
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Otherwise the order of things shouldn't matter (unless there is a bug somewhere).

Ian Aloser

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Solved it thanks to your hints, didn't find any bug there.
But now I am desperately trying to find
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Some alcohol, my rye whiskey doesn't help me....
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Sakkeus


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Have you been to the suicide gorge, topside? The solution lies there.
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Ian Aloser

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EDIT:
I noticed the ...
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ice on the sign and on the path and I am sure I need the salt from the truck's valve to remove it ,
but no container around....
I guess this is why I cannot reach the topside...
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Nevermind, I think I just found the solution !

Ian Aloser

@Sakkeus,
I thought from here on it would be a cakewalk , but...
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...figuring out the combination for the lock is a mystery to me.
I cleaned the lock with the spray and I thought I could find out the combination
by an acoustic sound, but to no avail.
Just a slight nudge would be highly appreciated.
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The puzzles in the game are really well designed !!!

Sakkeus

#14
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You dont have to leave the topside, all that you need now is there.
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Just look around.

Ian Aloser

Thanks !!!
I found the solution right after your message !

Ian Aloser

Oh No !!
Game crashes near the end of the game :

in the active script:
in "room 24.asc", line 25
 Error: The character 'cEgo' could not be displayed
because there was no loop 1 in view 97

Sakkeus

Quote from: Ian Aloser on Fri 22/11/2024 18:09:36Oh No !!
Game crashes near the end of the game :

in the active script:
in "room 24.asc", line 25
 Error: The character 'cEgo' could not be displayed
because there was no loop 1 in view 97

Thanks.
I'll get to it right away!

Sakkeus


Ian Aloser

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@Sakkeus,
savegames worked, but now I am totally stuck...
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... near the end.i guess I have to fiddle with the fuse box,
but there is now way to open it, cannot find a suitable tool for the lock
Also, when using the mirror on the corner,there is no way to access
the items in my inventory
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Nevermind, I think I got it !

arglmann

Quote from: Sakkeus on Fri 22/11/2024 18:41:19HERE'S THE FIXED WINDOWS VERSION

Should work fine with your old saves!
Hi Sakkeus,

my firewall doesn't let me download this version. Could you provide another one?
Thanks! Wonderful game!

arglmann

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Quote from: arglmann on Sat 23/11/2024 13:08:12
Quote from: Sakkeus on Fri 22/11/2024 18:41:19HERE'S THE FIXED WINDOWS VERSION

Should work fine with your old saves!
Hi Sakkeus,

my firewall doesn't let me download this version. Could you provide another one?
Thanks! Wonderful game!
It's actually a virus warning and I can't convince my system to download it :-(
Ok, I deactivated the protection for a second.

Sakkeus

I was just about to upload an alternative file for you.
I scanned the zip files (old and newly made), the game folders, my game work folder and all came back clean. Scanned with Windows and Avast. No threats found.

Avast antivirus gives a warning when running the game, but after some scanning it declares that the file is safe. Avast does this a lot.

Hope you'll get it running, thanks for the comments!

arglmann

Quote from: Sakkeus on Sat 23/11/2024 13:39:49I was just about to upload an alternative file for you.
I scanned the zip files (old and newly made), the game folders, my game work folder and all came back clean. Scanned with Windows and Avast. No threats found.

Avast antivirus gives a warning when running the game, but after some scanning it declares that the file is safe. Avast does this a lot.

Hope you'll get it running, thanks for the comments!
Wonderful! Very exciting! Great game!
I just found some typos:
-looking at the bracelet "eleCtrical copper wire"
- the key can be grabbed repeatedly

You are a good story teller and a great artist.
Thank you for making this game.

Sakkeus

Thank you very much! I'll fix those things in the next "patch".

splat44

Make sure there are virus as following shows up when downloading file on Nov 23:

QuoteTrojan:Script/Wacatac.B!ml

This program is dangerous and executes commands from an attacker.

Quote from: Sakkeus on Sat 23/11/2024 15:02:08Thank you very much! I'll fix those things in the next "patch".

Shadow1000

Can someone give me a hint how to

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get pressure in the spray pump?
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Thank you

Ian Aloser

That's easy !
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Use it on Frank
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Sakkeus

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Version 1.02 online with small fixes and additions.

What is the antivirus software that gave the alert and at what point of the process?

I ran multiple online and offline virus and malware scanners on the file and files.
Software tools: Windows defender found nothing, Malware bytes found nothing, Avast found nothing.
Online tools: Kaspersky found nothing, Virustotal found nothing.
Downloaded the file on a second computer and got nothing (only Windows defender).
I have a theory, that it was the word "windows" in the zip file name that caused the virus/malware alert.
I renamed the zip files for this version.

Still, download at your own risk, I've done all I can.
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I'd appreciate a "cup-rating" (good or bad) and maybe a short one or two line review on the game's page from anyone who completed the game or "had enough" of it in any way. Thanks!



Shadow1000

Quote from: Ian Aloser on Thu 28/11/2024 07:31:08That's easy !
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Use it on Frank
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That IS easy! I don't think I would ever have guessed that. Thank you

splat44

Ok, download is clear and no virus!

To answer your question, that alert can from updated win defender and I mean windows 10

Quote from: Sakkeus on Thu 28/11/2024 10:03:58Version 1.02 online with small fixes and additions.

What is the antivirus software that gave the alert and at what point of the process?

I ran multiple online and offline virus and malware scanners on the file and files.
Software tools: Windows defender found nothing, Malware bytes found nothing, Avast found nothing.
Online tools: Kaspersky found nothing, Virustotal found nothing.
Downloaded the file on a second computer and got nothing (only Windows defender).
I have a theory, that it was the word "windows" in the zip file name that caused the virus/malware alert.
I renamed the zip files for this version.

Still, download at your own risk, I've done all I can.
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I'd appreciate a "cup-rating" (good or bad) and maybe a short one or two line review on the game's page from anyone who completed the game or "had enough" of it in any way. Thanks!




PPAentertainment

I'm really stuck! How can I clean the photo?

Ian Aloser

I don't know how far you are in the game, but the
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Pastor will clean the photo for you.
Make sure you examined the cleaned sign!
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PPAentertainment

Yep!! Thanks now I can go on

Rik_Vargard

OK, I got so far but now:

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I'm on that frozen cliff and can't find the code to the lock and what I have to put in that hole on the side.
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Sakkeus

Quote from: Rik_Vargard on Sun 08/12/2024 18:50:48OK, I got so far but now:

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I'm on that frozen cliff and can't find the code to the lock and what I have to put in that hole on the side.
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The code is not available, you've got to find it out yourself by other means.
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You have to listen to the mechanism to find out the combination. There's a tool to help with it on the gorge. Too bad that the mechanism is full of dirt.
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Use the spray oil in the hole. Now the lock mechanism won't make any extra noises.
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Rik_Vargard

Thanks I'll check that out  (nod)

Inkoddi

Very nice little game! I'm so totally stuck that I've decided to come out of many years of hiding just to ask for help. :confused:
The yellow rubber gloves, how do I get them?
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I have no idea how to get the coyote lady to let me have the gloves, she just says she wants Wolfie back. There is also a dialog option with the kid that says "loud speculation etc..." but Frank won't do it until he's sure he's gotten everything out of her. Is there some item I've missed that I need to show her?
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heltenjon

Quote from: Inkoddi on Sun 29/12/2024 23:42:40Very nice little game! I'm so totally stuck that I've decided to come out of many years of hiding just to ask for help. :confused:
The yellow rubber gloves, how do I get them?
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I have no idea how to get the coyote lady to let me have the gloves, she just says she wants Wolfie back. There is also a dialog option with the kid that says "loud speculation etc..." but Frank won't do it until he's sure he's gotten everything out of her. Is there some item I've missed that I need to show her?
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Have you
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been told that she also has a safe keeping business? She has something that belongs to Wolfie.
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Can't get it? You need
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a ticket stub. It's at Wolfie's place.
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Can't find it?
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It's the small piece of paper in the chair where the fox used to sit.
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Hope that helps!

Inkoddi

Quote from: heltenjon on Mon 30/12/2024 02:18:12
Quote from: Inkoddi on Sun 29/12/2024 23:42:40Very nice little game! I'm so totally stuck that I've decided to come out of many years of hiding just to ask for help. :confused:
The yellow rubber gloves, how do I get them?
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I have no idea how to get the coyote lady to let me have the gloves, she just says she wants Wolfie back. There is also a dialog option with the kid that says "loud speculation etc..." but Frank won't do it until he's sure he's gotten everything out of her. Is there some item I've missed that I need to show her?
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Have you
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been told that she also has a safe keeping business? She has something that belongs to Wolfie.
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Can't get it? You need
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a ticket stub. It's at Wolfie's place.
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Can't find it?
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It's the small piece of paper in the chair where the fox used to sit.
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Hope that helps!

Thank you so much! I thought that it was just a horrible stain of some sort.
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jfrisby

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I can't seem to figure out the trick with the hand mirror and fusebox at the end(?) - I think I'm looking for a key?  I have some wire bracelet, I'm looking around the corner with the mirror... but timing or clicking anywhere doesn't seem to work... a nudge would be appreciated :D
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heltenjon

Quote from: jfrisby on Tue 07/01/2025 03:43:35
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I can't seem to figure out the trick with the hand mirror and fusebox at the end(?) - I think I'm looking for a key?  I have some wire bracelet, I'm looking around the corner with the mirror... but timing or clicking anywhere doesn't seem to work... a nudge would be appreciated :D
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(Mirror problem at the end)
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Have you noticed that you can turn the mirror with mouse movements, viewing different parts of the room?
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Doesn't help?
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You are looking for a key. It's in the rightmost view of the room.
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It's hanging on the wall right around the corner. You can grab it from where you stand.
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