This City at Night

[Shadow1000]

I'm stuck on what's probably the first puzzle...

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I'm in the church doing the slider puzzle on the statue of Mary. I know that the chips in the stones on the puzzle correspond to the chips in the inscription under the crucifix, but I can't come up with any connection. For example, in the inscription, the E, U and S there is a chip so I thought I'd use those chipped letters but that kind of thinking doesn't carry across to the other rows, especially when some of them have cracks rather than chips, etc. I don't see any way to figure out what the goal is.

I have also noted that the blocks with the I II I on the lion mosaic is the same shape as the slider puzzle. I don't get that clue at all.

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[paolo]

I'm stuck on what's probably the first puzzle...

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I'm in the church doing the slider puzzle on the statue of Mary. I know that the chips in the stones on the puzzle correspond to the chips in the inscription under the crucifix, but I can't come up with any connection. For example, in the inscription, the E, U and S there is a chip so I thought I'd use those chipped letters but that kind of thinking doesn't carry across to the other rows, especially when some of them have cracks rather than chips, etc. I don't see any way to figure out what the goal is.

I have also noted that the blocks with the I II I on the lion mosaic is the same shape as the slider puzzle. I don't get that clue at all.

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Hints:

The biggest clue is in the

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inscription below the crucifix

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. The

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mosaic

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only gives you more general help.

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The shape of the damage to the tiles doesn't match up, as you've seen. It's where the damage to the tiles is that tells you where they should go.

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[Shadow1000]

The biggest clue is in the

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inscription below the crucifix

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. The

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mosaic

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only gives you more general help.

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The shape of the damage to the tiles doesn't match up, as you've seen. It's where the damage to the tiles is that tells you where they should go.

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So, I thought of that. I took the approach that I'd see if the chip is on the top, bottom, right, and so on. But that does not give a complete solution either

For example: in the top row of the inscription the letter S appears twice, one intact and one with a chip on the top centre. So, which S do I use in the top row of the slider?
The second row has a U with a chip in the left centre. No such letter U in the slider unless a crack is the same as a chip? But if so, then that changes the approach to row 1

In short, the clue is ambiguous unless I'm missing something. Normally I'd guess but in this case, it's taking me 30 - 45 minutes to solve the slider EVERY TIME and I've already spent probably close to an hour an a half sliding blocks around.

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Thank you

[marko33]

use the looking glass on the letters

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[Shadow1000]

use the looking glass on the letters

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That gives the same hint that Paulo gave, which I saw already. My problem is that it's too vague to actually use to solve, and the slider puzzle could take hours unless you know exactly what you are after.

Thank you

[paolo]

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So, I thought of that. I took the approach that I'd see if the chip is on the top, bottom, right, and so on. But that does not give a complete solution either

For example: in the top row of the inscription the letter S appears twice, one intact and one with a chip on the top centre. So, which S do I use in the top row of the slider?
The second row has a U with a chip in the left centre. No such letter U in the slider unless a crack is the same as a chip? But if so, then that changes the approach to row 1

In short, the clue is ambiguous unless I'm missing something. Normally I'd guess but in this case, it's taking me 30 - 45 minutes to solve the slider EVERY TIME and I've already spent probably close to an hour an a half sliding blocks around.

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Thank you

A more detailed explanation:

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Pay attention to the chipped tiles only. The undamaged ones are not important because there is only one place each of them can go.

For example, in the top row of the inscription, the E tile is chipped at the top, and in the bottom row, the E tiles are chipped at the bottom. That tells you in which rows of the puzzle to put the two E tiles, which are similarly damaged.

Use the same idea with the other damaged tiles, and there will then be only one possible solution.

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[Shadow1000]

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So, I thought of that. I took the approach that I'd see if the chip is on the top, bottom, right, and so on. But that does not give a complete solution either

For example: in the top row of the inscription the letter S appears twice, one intact and one with a chip on the top centre. So, which S do I use in the top row of the slider?
The second row has a U with a chip in the left centre. No such letter U in the slider unless a crack is the same as a chip? But if so, then that changes the approach to row 1

In short, the clue is ambiguous unless I'm missing something. Normally I'd guess but in this case, it's taking me 30 - 45 minutes to solve the slider EVERY TIME and I've already spent probably close to an hour an a half sliding blocks around.

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Thank you

A more detailed explanation:

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Pay attention to the chipped tiles only. The undamaged ones are not important because there is only one place each of them can go.

For example, in the top row of the inscription, the E tile is chipped at the top, and in the bottom row, the E tiles are chipped at the bottom. That tells you in which rows of the puzzle to put the two E tiles, which are similarly damaged.

Use the same idea with the other damaged tiles, and there will then be only one possible solution.

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That doesn't really help.

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Thanks for the explanation for the E.

I've probably spent over 4 hours on the slider puzzle. Part because completing the slider puzzle takes between 30-45 minutes each time and part because the solution is really not clear so each time is really mainly a guess.

For example, the inscription has the S in the second row with a chip on part of the letter S. There is no such chipped S on the slider puzzle. There is only one with a chip on the bottom so those obviously cannot correspond to each other. The letter U on the top has some mark on the left but sitting and staring at it, I have no idea if that is just a line or a chip, the one in the centre row has one on the right centre but nothing like that exists in the slider puzzle. I don't know if the cracks are supposed to represent a chip or not, as in the last time I asked.

My latest guess is this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n5cl62hmyhtgzjy/0.jpg?dl=0

If I reverse the U and N in the second row, is that the solution? If so, can you suggest how to do that?

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[paolo]

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So, I thought of that. I took the approach that I'd see if the chip is on the top, bottom, right, and so on. But that does not give a complete solution either

For example: in the top row of the inscription the letter S appears twice, one intact and one with a chip on the top centre. So, which S do I use in the top row of the slider?
The second row has a U with a chip in the left centre. No such letter U in the slider unless a crack is the same as a chip? But if so, then that changes the approach to row 1

In short, the clue is ambiguous unless I'm missing something. Normally I'd guess but in this case, it's taking me 30 - 45 minutes to solve the slider EVERY TIME and I've already spent probably close to an hour an a half sliding blocks around.

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Thank you

A more detailed explanation:

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Pay attention to the chipped tiles only. The undamaged ones are not important because there is only one place each of them can go.

For example, in the top row of the inscription, the E tile is chipped at the top, and in the bottom row, the E tiles are chipped at the bottom. That tells you in which rows of the puzzle to put the two E tiles, which are similarly damaged.

Use the same idea with the other damaged tiles, and there will then be only one possible solution.

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That doesn't really help.

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Thanks for the explanation for the E.

I've probably spent over 4 hours on the slider puzzle. Part because completing the slider puzzle takes between 30-45 minutes each time and part because the solution is really not clear so each time is really mainly a guess.

For example, the inscription has the S in the second row with a chip on part of the letter S. There is no such chipped S on the slider puzzle. There is only one with a chip on the bottom so those obviously cannot correspond to each other. The letter U on the top has some mark on the left but sitting and staring at it, I have no idea if that is just a line or a chip, the one in the centre row has one on the right centre but nothing like that exists in the slider puzzle. I don't know if the cracks are supposed to represent a chip or not, as in the last time I asked.

My latest guess is this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n5cl62hmyhtgzjy/0.jpg?dl=0

If I reverse the U and N in the second row, is that the solution? If so, can you suggest how to do that?

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Sorry you've struggled with this puzzle. It's one of the hardest in the game, so I hope you'll play on once you get past this one.

Summary of what is needed:

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Top row: damage at the tops of the tiles. Bottom row: damage at the bottoms of the tiles. Middle row: damage in the middles of the tiles (chips in the inscription; cracks in the puzzle), although once you know that the tiles with chips on them go in the top and bottom rows, there's nowhere else for the remaining N, U and S to go other than in the middle row.

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So, to solve the puzzle starting from where you are now:

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The only thing left to do other than swapping the N and the U is to swap the S's in the middle and bottom rows.

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And something that will save you time:

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Quidet mentions she had a puzzle like this and it was easier to solve once she'd worked out how to take the pieces out.

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There is a way you can do just that using something in the church.

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[Shadow1000]

Sorry you've struggled with this puzzle. It's one of the hardest in the game, so I hope you'll play on once you get past this one.

Summary of what is needed:

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Top row: damage at the tops of the tiles. Bottom row: damage at the bottoms of the tiles. Middle row: damage in the middles of the tiles (chips in the inscription; cracks in the puzzle), although once you know that the tiles with chips on them go in the top and bottom rows, there's nowhere else for the remaining N, U and S to go other than in the middle row.

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So, to solve the puzzle starting from where you are now:

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The only thing left to do other than swapping the N and the U is to swap the S's in the middle and bottom rows.

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And something that will save you time:

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Quidet mentions she had a puzzle like this and it was easier to solve once she'd worked out how to take the pieces out.

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There is a way you can do just that using something in the church.

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Thank you, I was able to continue. I don't know how many people would get that, realistically.

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I wasn't just looking at the horizontal position; I was considering vertical as well. In addition, it was ambiguous whether cracks are the same as chips or not

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[Vincent]

I am playing this right now and I deeply like the atmosphere of the game! I am still at the beginning by now, I inspected the computer and was able to enter the right password, I got all the information in time fortunately. Then something happened to me:

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As soon as I learned all the informations a few seconds before the man entered I opened the inventory. I heard the sound of the door opening but the game got stuck on the open inventory and didn't allow me to close it or to do anything. Fortunately I made a save before interacting on the computer!

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Now let's get back to playing this game is really intriguing! 


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I have reached the first puzzle about the statue of Mary at the church. I was able to put the word "Deus Bonus Est" but nothing happened. I think I should investigate more here.
However when I was inside the puzzle I had the inventory opened:



When I clicked on the exit button with the inventory open, the character returned to the previous room but I couldn't do anything because the cursor had disappeared.

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I can take a tile from the puzzle now:



But if I click to the exit hotspot while I still have the tile selected when I enter the puzzle again the tile is disappear forever.

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[paolo]

Thanks, Vincent. You have found several bugs that neither I nor my beta-testers did! I hope they haven't spoiled your enjoyment. Good job you had saved the game.

I will add these to the list of things to fix for the next version.

[Vincent]

Thanks, Vincent. You have found several bugs that neither I nor my beta-testers did! I hope they haven't spoiled your enjoyment. Good job you had saved the game.

I will add these to the list of things to fix for the next version.

You are welcome, I'm having a great time playing this game. I got stuck in a locked room:

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In the inventory I have scissors, a candlestick and a ruler. I assume I have to do something with the bed and the spring but I don't know what.

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[paolo]

I got stuck in a locked room:

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In the inventory I have scissors, a candlestick and a ruler. I assume I have to do something with the bed and the spring but I don't know what.

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You have everything you need. Try using these items on things in the room.

[Vincent]

You have everything you need. Try using these items on things in the room.

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That's what I've been trying to do for over an hour by now, it seems like I have been missed something obvious. 

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[paolo]

You have everything you need. Try using these items on things in the room.

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That's what I've been trying to do for over an hour by now, it seems like I have been missed something obvious. 

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The way out is

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through the door. Inspect it closely. There is something you have probably missed.

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[Vincent]

The way out is

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through the door. Inspect it closely. There is something you have probably missed.

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Thank you very much for the suggestion!

[Jigen Daisuke]

Hi Paolo!
Nice game 

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I'm stuck in the dark room searching for my mobile phone... I think I've inspected all and try to use the 3 objects I have (ruler, scissors, candlestick) on all hotspots

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[paolo]

Hi Paolo!
Nice game 

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I'm stuck in the dark room searching for my mobile phone... I think I've inspected all and try to use the 3 objects I have (ruler, scissors, candlestick) on all hotspots

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Thank you.

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Last time you were here, you came across something that will help you now, but you didn't need it, so you didn't take it. Interact with some things in the room.

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[Jigen Daisuke]

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I managed to find the light button! LOL   Unfortunately I'm not able to locate the cell phone battery...

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[paolo]

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I managed to find the light button! LOL   Unfortunately I'm not able to locate the cell phone battery...

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It's there somewhere. Keep looking around the room.

[lanchong]

I'm not sure why I didn't play this great game last year.
I'm stuck early in the game at the Cold Glass bar.

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How do I get past the doorman?

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[paolo]

I'm not sure why I didn't play this great game last year.
I'm stuck early in the game at the Cold Glass bar.

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How do I get past the doorman?

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Ah, good question Glad you're enjoying the game so far.

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Instead of going in the main entrance, try getting in some other way.

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The doorman's very security-conscious, isn't he? What else do you notice relating to security?

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Look at the hotspots. That might give Tracey an idea.

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Full solution:

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Try walking down the alley to the right of the nightclub. The doorman will spot you.

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Then talk to the doorman and ask him why you aren't allowed to go down the alley.

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Look at the security camera.

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Talk to the doorman again.

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Tell him about the rough-looking lads.

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Now the doorman's attention is fixed on the main road, so you're free to walk down the alley.

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[sthomannch]

Started playing, an excellent game, and different from many I have found here. I got through after thinking and trying, was all logical, somehow even the

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Slider puzzle, which took a little because I had to find all the clues first

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but now I am a bit stuck, in the

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cleaned office, all rooms empty and three patches on the floor, one on the wall that for sure is at least a hint, but I cannot proceed and the dialogues just repeat
as I repeat actions

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Ah no, just found one action and think I can proceed!

Pretty nice area and birds on the roof, what a cute little detail!

[sthomannch]

Enjoyed it a lot!
Thank you for a good game.

[paolo]

Enjoyed it a lot!
Thank you for a good game.

Well done, you made it! Thank you.

[lanchong]

I'm clueless in the church (pardon the pun)

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I understand that I need to locate all clues before I can start the slider puzzle. I've read 5 inscriptions and the bible. What else have I missed?

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Thanks

[paolo]

I'm clueless in the church (pardon the pun)

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I understand that I need to locate all clues before I can start the slider puzzle. I've read 5 inscriptions and the bible. What else have I missed?

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OK, you need to look around some more. Some things you will need to look at more than once.

Hint:

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First, have you had a good look at the puzzle?

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Hint:

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There are some other things to look at in the church. Look at the crucifix, and look closely at the inscription below it.

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The mosaic may also be of some help.

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Look at the puzzle again to see if you get any new information.

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Finally, once you know what to do:

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There may be a simpler way to solve the puzzle. What did Quidet say about the one she had when she was little?

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[lanchong]

I'm clueless in the church (pardon the pun)

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I understand that I need to locate all clues before I can start the slider puzzle. I've read 5 inscriptions and the bible. What else have I missed?

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Thanks

OK, you need to look around some more. Some things you will need to look at more than once.

Hint:

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First, have you had a good look at the puzzle?

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Hint:

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There are some other things to look at in the church. Look at the crucifix, and look closely at the inscription below it.

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Hint:

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The mosaic may also be of some help.

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Hint:

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Look at the puzzle again to see if you get any new information.

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Finally, once you know what to do:

Hint:

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There may be a simpler way to solve the puzzle. What did Quidet say about the one she had when she was little?

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Thank you, Paolo.

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I had to talk to the statue to reveal the puzzle.

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[lanchong]

I need help for the final scene (I believe)

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I'm in Joe's office with his entire gang in the room. I've exhausted all dialogs. What should I do next?

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Thanks

[sthomannch]

Are the police outside?

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They do not dare to enter if they have no clue in which room you are

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You have examined each item in the room? Also the mirror?

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Move it, so that the sunlight is reflected

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[lanchong]

Are the police outside?

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They do not dare to enter if they have no clue in which room you are

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You have examined each item in the room? Also the mirror?

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Move it, so that the sunlight is reflected

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Right. I had to look at the window first.

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I've now finished the game. That was fun. Thank you all.

[splat44]

I stuck with following:

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Computer password, I assume, it has something to do writing on picture found on desk but cannot figure out

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[bertolino]

PLEASE HELP I NEED PASSWORD FOR THE  BOSS COMPUTER

BY THE WAY GREAT GAME SO FAR

[sthomannch]

You mean at the beginning of the game on the second day?

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you talked with the boss about his family and that he has a seven year old daughter?

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he mentions her name, Molly - it is the girl on the picture :-)

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[bertolino]

ok thank you but now i have gone through the whole computer and cant find a thing clue please

[sthomannch]

Have you read all documents? Opened everything? You have to look at every item

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A new place will open up, read the answers carefully when reading the mails and other documents

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And at the end of your little investigation you have to hide traces

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Put the files in the file locker

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[bertolino]

IS THERE SOMETHING I CAN USE TO GET THE OBJECT OUT OF THE STATUE CRACK?

[sthomannch]

have you already

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opened the compartment?

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if not

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it is perhaps a good time to pray

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then

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I think I remember that I stood on the base, not absolutely sure. But if you cannot take it, climb the base.
I also think that there was a hint in the dialog

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[bertolino]

ok i have tried everything at the church looked at everything and read everything still cant get the crack of statue or pray or anything

[sthomannch]

Have you

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read every inscription several times? Once is often not enough.
talked to the nun?

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Apart from looking several times at items and talking to the nun I do not remember having done anything else before praying.

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[bertolino]

still nothing just looking and reading everything for the 100th time still in church

[sthomannch]

I dug out an old save game and played a bit: From when I entered the church until

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the compartment in the statue opened. You still have another riddle to solve then before you can leave this room, but you will find the hints in this thread. Otherwise I continue from there

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Inventory

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I have just four things, but I am sure you have the same, otherwise the game would not have progressed so far: lockpicks, usb stick, decoder, mobile phone

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Some information you need in the dialogues

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The nun waits for a code word, so select the right one: Pipistrelles ("bats" but most probably you know already)
I said that Mr Jones sent me and that I was called Minerva
All this information is accessible earlier in the game

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Look and touch to get the following information

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- right door - nun, she will disappear when you give the right information
- first two inscriptions, one to the left and one to the right of the right door
- bible (touch)
- other door - not useful yet
- crucifix
- inscription below crucifix - look at it, but you will have to examine it again later
- mosaic right of the Madonna - read plaque above it, look at Jesus, lamb, lion, tiles in the lower right corner
- inscription above Madonna

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You should be able to proceed now

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- touch statue to zoom in
- read plaque at the pedestal
- look at upper and lower half and get the remark about the crack in the middle of the statue - you may try to open it, no chance
- "speak" to Madonna, perhaps this was the problem. To pray you have to use the right cursor

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And a little help if you cannot look inside

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"touch" pedestal - you have to climb up to be able to look into the compartment

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Hope this helps 

[paolo]

EDIT: sthomannch has already given you a longer solution (and actually not all of those steps are necessary), but this should be enough to get you on your way again:

ok i have tried everything at the church looked at everything and read everything still cant get the crack of statue or pray or anything

Have you

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looked at the inscription at the foot of the statue and at the statue's face?

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That gives you a suggestion what you might do next.

If you're still stuck after that:

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Talk to the statue's face

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[paolo]

The walkthrough is now available here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1h6nmbezb14mpa6/walkthrough.txt?dl=0

There is a also Dutch walkthrough here: http://gamesolves.hostfree.pw/free/t/tcan/tcan_nl.htm